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		<title>By: TS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2006/12/foreign-labour-policy-income-disparity-in-singapore/comment-page-1/#comment-178199</link>
		<dc:creator>TS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 03:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wah.. this Edmund is god..

He wrote about this foreign labour issue way back in 2006, and the PAP government is only starting to tackle the problem which has worsen since then in 2011!

We should have him as the finance minister!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wah.. this Edmund is god..</p>
<p>He wrote about this foreign labour issue way back in 2006, and the PAP government is only starting to tackle the problem which has worsen since then in 2011!</p>
<p>We should have him as the finance minister!</p>
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		<title>By: Selvadurai S Nagappan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2006/12/foreign-labour-policy-income-disparity-in-singapore/comment-page-1/#comment-162427</link>
		<dc:creator>Selvadurai S Nagappan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 07:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Singapore Permanent Resident 
(Malaysian). I would like to become lobour supplier. Please advice</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Singapore Permanent Resident<br />
(Malaysian). I would like to become lobour supplier. Please advice</p>
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		<title>By: PG</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2006/12/foreign-labour-policy-income-disparity-in-singapore/comment-page-1/#comment-137039</link>
		<dc:creator>PG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see a lot of countries ,  those is South East Asia , especially SIngapore penalised . People say look at the success there and the wealth , well its an illusion , they have done it on the backs of foreign workers , badly paid , no social protection etc , and also keeping the Singapore workers salaries down . This is unfair competition , and I would like to see European populations boycott all goods and servcies from these countries . There is also a big lack of ecological protection ( even in so called green Singapore) and even less protection of other countries resources.
It may be great to help developing countries , but only big companies and  governments really benefit from this help, it hardly effets populations lives .
And don&#039;t worry , I see it first hand , I live in South East Asia as I am retired , and see all the problems that the current financial and industrial system have created . 
And have a look at the politics in these countries , it is not democratic , even in that so called great place Singapore . They are all communist style or authoritarian regimes , run my so called elite ( in what they are elite defeats me)
I would like to see more reacion by western populations against all this unfair and often illegal competition . And why not action by the EU itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see a lot of countries ,  those is South East Asia , especially SIngapore penalised . People say look at the success there and the wealth , well its an illusion , they have done it on the backs of foreign workers , badly paid , no social protection etc , and also keeping the Singapore workers salaries down . This is unfair competition , and I would like to see European populations boycott all goods and servcies from these countries . There is also a big lack of ecological protection ( even in so called green Singapore) and even less protection of other countries resources.<br />
It may be great to help developing countries , but only big companies and  governments really benefit from this help, it hardly effets populations lives .<br />
And don&#8217;t worry , I see it first hand , I live in South East Asia as I am retired , and see all the problems that the current financial and industrial system have created .<br />
And have a look at the politics in these countries , it is not democratic , even in that so called great place Singapore . They are all communist style or authoritarian regimes , run my so called elite ( in what they are elite defeats me)<br />
I would like to see more reacion by western populations against all this unfair and often illegal competition . And why not action by the EU itself.</p>
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		<title>By: XT</title>
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		<dc:creator>XT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 16:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Edmund comments and those against his please take your head out from your arse and think before gob in Lay Mans term. These one for Jane comments

Availability of lower income job those for local only are subjected to avaibility, and and too much local wanting it. 

Excuse my pigeon English and writing no former education.

The one who were at hard rock just because you went to hard rock cafe and get bad service you compare a local to expats worker comments, please also take your head out from your back side how you know they are locals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Edmund comments and those against his please take your head out from your arse and think before gob in Lay Mans term. These one for Jane comments</p>
<p>Availability of lower income job those for local only are subjected to avaibility, and and too much local wanting it. </p>
<p>Excuse my pigeon English and writing no former education.</p>
<p>The one who were at hard rock just because you went to hard rock cafe and get bad service you compare a local to expats worker comments, please also take your head out from your back side how you know they are locals</p>
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		<title>By: Not surprised</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not surprised</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What the article said at the last bit:

&quot;our education system needs to emphasis more on soft skills, e.g. personality traits and interpersonal skills. Singapore has to transform its education systems so as to prepare workers for the jobs that will exist in the higher-income countries. Basically, that requires preparing workers for personal services jobs rather than impersonal services and manufacturing. Creativity and imagination skills will be highly valued, and people skills will be more valuable than computer skills. &quot;

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Singapore is very young. And its citizens have been socialized to become more civil/human/nice with lots of campaigns, because of the existence of such mass campaigns encouraging citizens to smile, be nice, courteous, romantic etc (these are all elements of soft skills). We could safely stereotype the entire local labour population by the existence of the mass govt campaigns, as not having soft skills.

I believe foreigners make better workers in the service sector and in customer service. They have more empathy, initiative, they are diligent and they understand what good service entails. On the other hand, i have met foreign service workers that are just as horrible as Singaporean service workers are. 

I.e. Harvey norman type electronic shop assistants will just read out an electronic good&#039;s specifications to you, without explaining which model of vacuum or radio set is a better buy for a customer like me. In Australia, working at an electronic store involves staying behind to TRY out all the products so you can better serve the customer.

i.e. comedy night at hard rock cafe. I have noticed that local waiters/waitresses lack the empathy or the initiative to not sense when patrons require food/drink, which makes them wander around aimlessly through the restaurant, and impeding the views of patrons at the comedy onstage.

Whilst the foreign waiters/waitresses are able to instinctively tell when a patron would require their services.


Furthermore:
 
There is a Singaporean mindset of looking down on the retail and service sector, professional services like doctors and lawyers are much highly thought of. Can we say that in Singapore it is naturally elitist? 

But service and salesmanship are viewed more positively abroad. If you are a good salesman or customer service man, you know your product and you know the competitor&#039;s product, and you have your customer&#039;s welfare at heart, so much so that you would recommend whatever is best for your customer (even if it means directing them to a competitor), which is how you build rapport and how the customer will remember you and bring back business. You will also be attentive to the customer and listen.

There is also much backlash against Foreigners and their language skills. Singaporeans also do not speak English, confusing yes with no because the sentence structures in typical local conversations are based on &#039;symbols&#039; and not on the meaning of words in a conversation. This is how you can have amazing stories of foreigners who got conscripted into NS because the MOM worker did not understand the question &quot;would my sons have to serve NS if i sign this?&quot;

At a human-level I believe foreigners can perform well in service and retail jobs because Singaporeans lack basic social skills and empathy. As for higher end mechanical jobs, i see no reason why Singaporeans are not able to do the same job as these foreigners if not better. Yes wages are horrible for us Singaporeans and the lack of a safety net sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What the article said at the last bit:</p>
<p>&#8220;our education system needs to emphasis more on soft skills, e.g. personality traits and interpersonal skills. Singapore has to transform its education systems so as to prepare workers for the jobs that will exist in the higher-income countries. Basically, that requires preparing workers for personal services jobs rather than impersonal services and manufacturing. Creativity and imagination skills will be highly valued, and people skills will be more valuable than computer skills. &#8221;</p>
<p>====</p>
<p>Singapore is very young. And its citizens have been socialized to become more civil/human/nice with lots of campaigns, because of the existence of such mass campaigns encouraging citizens to smile, be nice, courteous, romantic etc (these are all elements of soft skills). We could safely stereotype the entire local labour population by the existence of the mass govt campaigns, as not having soft skills.</p>
<p>I believe foreigners make better workers in the service sector and in customer service. They have more empathy, initiative, they are diligent and they understand what good service entails. On the other hand, i have met foreign service workers that are just as horrible as Singaporean service workers are. </p>
<p>I.e. Harvey norman type electronic shop assistants will just read out an electronic good&#8217;s specifications to you, without explaining which model of vacuum or radio set is a better buy for a customer like me. In Australia, working at an electronic store involves staying behind to TRY out all the products so you can better serve the customer.</p>
<p>i.e. comedy night at hard rock cafe. I have noticed that local waiters/waitresses lack the empathy or the initiative to not sense when patrons require food/drink, which makes them wander around aimlessly through the restaurant, and impeding the views of patrons at the comedy onstage.</p>
<p>Whilst the foreign waiters/waitresses are able to instinctively tell when a patron would require their services.</p>
<p>Furthermore:</p>
<p>There is a Singaporean mindset of looking down on the retail and service sector, professional services like doctors and lawyers are much highly thought of. Can we say that in Singapore it is naturally elitist? </p>
<p>But service and salesmanship are viewed more positively abroad. If you are a good salesman or customer service man, you know your product and you know the competitor&#8217;s product, and you have your customer&#8217;s welfare at heart, so much so that you would recommend whatever is best for your customer (even if it means directing them to a competitor), which is how you build rapport and how the customer will remember you and bring back business. You will also be attentive to the customer and listen.</p>
<p>There is also much backlash against Foreigners and their language skills. Singaporeans also do not speak English, confusing yes with no because the sentence structures in typical local conversations are based on &#8216;symbols&#8217; and not on the meaning of words in a conversation. This is how you can have amazing stories of foreigners who got conscripted into NS because the MOM worker did not understand the question &#8220;would my sons have to serve NS if i sign this?&#8221;</p>
<p>At a human-level I believe foreigners can perform well in service and retail jobs because Singaporeans lack basic social skills and empathy. As for higher end mechanical jobs, i see no reason why Singaporeans are not able to do the same job as these foreigners if not better. Yes wages are horrible for us Singaporeans and the lack of a safety net sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 12:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that foreign labour will bring about more competition to the lower income group but I do believe that there will also be similar effects on the higher income groups as there are more and more professionals from countries like China and India entering Singapore. So, wouldn&#039;t this cause a decrease in wages in both ends due to increase competition instead of widening the income gap? Truly appreciate your comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that foreign labour will bring about more competition to the lower income group but I do believe that there will also be similar effects on the higher income groups as there are more and more professionals from countries like China and India entering Singapore. So, wouldn&#8217;t this cause a decrease in wages in both ends due to increase competition instead of widening the income gap? Truly appreciate your comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Mert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really liked how you focused on many of the lower income earners and the troubles they have to face. But aren&#039;t there jobs only reserved for only Singaporeans like Taxi drivers also that provide a safety net for some? I also agree that the government could make more jobs that are only reserved for Singaporeans. I would also like to note one last thing. High income earners can also be in trouble here like the low income earners. Companies might recruit more expats from other countries to look after their firms for better imagery and status. They might be willing to pay extra money for the sake of that which might spread the disparity further more. It is more promising to say that my directors are British and American instead of saying a Singaporean, Malaysian or an Indian is looking after my company. Thank you, I would appreciate your comment!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really liked how you focused on many of the lower income earners and the troubles they have to face. But aren&#8217;t there jobs only reserved for only Singaporeans like Taxi drivers also that provide a safety net for some? I also agree that the government could make more jobs that are only reserved for Singaporeans. I would also like to note one last thing. High income earners can also be in trouble here like the low income earners. Companies might recruit more expats from other countries to look after their firms for better imagery and status. They might be willing to pay extra money for the sake of that which might spread the disparity further more. It is more promising to say that my directors are British and American instead of saying a Singaporean, Malaysian or an Indian is looking after my company. Thank you, I would appreciate your comment!</p>
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