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	<title>Comments on: A personal reflection on the gay issue</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Teh Kok Hua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Teh Kok Hua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each individual is born with his or her own needs, traits and characteristics.

It is not our business as human being to impose our personal standard or conduct on someone else. Bur talking about gay issues may go beyond personal respect for gay people many of whom are quite decent and nice in all other aspect except for being known as gay.

There may be a lot of misunderstanding or prejudice about people known as gay.

As long as they keep their personal conduct as gay to themselves there is really nothing to feel affronted about gay and their personal activities.

The government is right to remove discrimination against gay in employment.

However whether gay people realize it or not there is a need of society as a whole and not just the religious people to avoid open promotion of homosexuality or same-sex marriage within society.

This open homosexuality as a norm may not be that desirable. Gay people should know let such practice stay private. As long as it is private then there will be no discrimination against gay or even their homosexual conduct among them.

Let society including the church know the need for gay to live their lives even if in their own perception open homogexual conduct is still largely regarded as abnormal or a sin or evil,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each individual is born with his or her own needs, traits and characteristics.</p>
<p>It is not our business as human being to impose our personal standard or conduct on someone else. Bur talking about gay issues may go beyond personal respect for gay people many of whom are quite decent and nice in all other aspect except for being known as gay.</p>
<p>There may be a lot of misunderstanding or prejudice about people known as gay.</p>
<p>As long as they keep their personal conduct as gay to themselves there is really nothing to feel affronted about gay and their personal activities.</p>
<p>The government is right to remove discrimination against gay in employment.</p>
<p>However whether gay people realize it or not there is a need of society as a whole and not just the religious people to avoid open promotion of homosexuality or same-sex marriage within society.</p>
<p>This open homosexuality as a norm may not be that desirable. Gay people should know let such practice stay private. As long as it is private then there will be no discrimination against gay or even their homosexual conduct among them.</p>
<p>Let society including the church know the need for gay to live their lives even if in their own perception open homogexual conduct is still largely regarded as abnormal or a sin or evil,</p>
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		<title>By: Haadjairret</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Haadjairret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is really no business of any of us to judge the actions and choices of consenting adults, however, the problem arises when one tries to foist his/her ideals indiscriminately on others. Similarly, its up to the individual to choose his/her own religion. Problems arise when each tries to foist his/her religious beliefs upon others.

I belief nobody really has any serious problems with homosexuals if they just went along and did their own thing. Of course, discriminating and being prejudice agaist homosexuals, or for that matter, against anybody else cannot be right. But as a society, we should all respect the cultural norms and protocols of which our society was built upon.

So, if a society is generally uncomfortable with gays, then gays should&#039;nt try to foist their rights or norms upon the society. Its like the Chinese, Malays, Indians, Expats in Singapore all trying to fight for their mother tongue (or native language) to be the official language in Singapore. It would be total chaos.

You cannot have too many distinct components and be one nation. It makes interchangeability difficult. If you want complete acceptance - which extends beyond the boundaries of a society&#039;s norms - then its better to move to another society who can accomodate you. But there are of course circumstances where it is wise to leave things be. In such matters one has to find a middle path between uniformity and a certain freedom to be somewhat different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really no business of any of us to judge the actions and choices of consenting adults, however, the problem arises when one tries to foist his/her ideals indiscriminately on others. Similarly, its up to the individual to choose his/her own religion. Problems arise when each tries to foist his/her religious beliefs upon others.</p>
<p>I belief nobody really has any serious problems with homosexuals if they just went along and did their own thing. Of course, discriminating and being prejudice agaist homosexuals, or for that matter, against anybody else cannot be right. But as a society, we should all respect the cultural norms and protocols of which our society was built upon.</p>
<p>So, if a society is generally uncomfortable with gays, then gays should&#8217;nt try to foist their rights or norms upon the society. Its like the Chinese, Malays, Indians, Expats in Singapore all trying to fight for their mother tongue (or native language) to be the official language in Singapore. It would be total chaos.</p>
<p>You cannot have too many distinct components and be one nation. It makes interchangeability difficult. If you want complete acceptance &#8211; which extends beyond the boundaries of a society&#8217;s norms &#8211; then its better to move to another society who can accomodate you. But there are of course circumstances where it is wise to leave things be. In such matters one has to find a middle path between uniformity and a certain freedom to be somewhat different.</p>
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		<title>By: The problem with gay-ness &#124; phew!</title>
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		<dc:creator>The problem with gay-ness &#124; phew!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] respect gain trust. Archaic anti-homosexual laws may change in countries where it is illegal like Singapore. Only then communities gain trust of each other because they have begun to understand. And only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] respect gain trust. Archaic anti-homosexual laws may change in countries where it is illegal like Singapore. Only then communities gain trust of each other because they have begun to understand. And only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Homosexuality: Myth &#38; Reality &#171; Winter Is Coming</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-782</link>
		<dc:creator>Homosexuality: Myth &#38; Reality &#171; Winter Is Coming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 11:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Parliament, several bloggers and several people with intriguing comments. Of course almost everything that can be said on this issue has already been said; however recently there have been intriguing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Parliament, several bloggers and several people with intriguing comments. Of course almost everything that can be said on this issue has already been said; however recently there have been intriguing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The problem with gay-ness &#171; phew!</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-778</link>
		<dc:creator>The problem with gay-ness &#171; phew!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 17:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] respect gain trust. Archaic anti-homosexual laws may change in countries where it is illegal like Singapore. Only then communities gain trust of each other because they have begun to understand. And only [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] respect gain trust. Archaic anti-homosexual laws may change in countries where it is illegal like Singapore. Only then communities gain trust of each other because they have begun to understand. And only [...]</p>
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		<title>By: theonlinecitizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-775</link>
		<dc:creator>theonlinecitizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joshyo,

Thanks for the kind words. I&#039;ll relate it to the author. Glad that it has helped you somewhat.. :)

Regards,
Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joshyo,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words. I&#8217;ll relate it to the author. Glad that it has helped you somewhat.. :)</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: joshyo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>joshyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 06:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great review on gya people. its good i am one tooo ... i feel better after reading this tkx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great review on gya people. its good i am one tooo &#8230; i feel better after reading this tkx</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-776</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very poignant account of a gay trying to come out to a friend. It is one of the greatest steps forward that can be taken by a gay. Accept them, hug them and let them know that they are who they are - ordinary people with feelings and capable of loving another fellow human being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very poignant account of a gay trying to come out to a friend. It is one of the greatest steps forward that can be taken by a gay. Accept them, hug them and let them know that they are who they are &#8211; ordinary people with feelings and capable of loving another fellow human being.</p>
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		<title>By: Beast</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-777</link>
		<dc:creator>Beast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 17:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an article written about the gay issue on my blog.

Frankly, there is no justification in persecuting homosexuality, whether if they can choose their sexual orientation, or that it is beyond their means to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an article written about the gay issue on my blog.</p>
<p>Frankly, there is no justification in persecuting homosexuality, whether if they can choose their sexual orientation, or that it is beyond their means to change.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Human</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/05/a-personal-reflection-on-the-gay-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-779</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Human</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 13:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is written with arresting clarity.  Whoever you are, salut!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is written with arresting clarity.  Whoever you are, salut!</p>
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		<title>By: paT</title>
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		<dc:creator>paT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 03:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly it has more to do with who this person really is.  There will come a time when the truth will reveal itself considering the fact that we (you, them and I) have a tendency not to go deeper into our innermost being to see ourselves in our most naked and vunerable form.  Our past will catch up with us in the future (hopefully) and the present with all its supposed beauty (make believe world that some of us live in) vanishes.  With regret and bitterness, I hope not!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly it has more to do with who this person really is.  There will come a time when the truth will reveal itself considering the fact that we (you, them and I) have a tendency not to go deeper into our innermost being to see ourselves in our most naked and vunerable form.  Our past will catch up with us in the future (hopefully) and the present with all its supposed beauty (make believe world that some of us live in) vanishes.  With regret and bitterness, I hope not!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 00:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it is a very well written out post, but somehow the idea of simply leaving people alone just does not occur to our political masters, and probably never will.

That would require a level of commonsense and decency that is far beyond what the men and women in the Big House Across Boat Quay have.

Simply put, I don&#039;t see what right I have, or for that matter anyone has, to tell another man where he can or cannot place his penis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it is a very well written out post, but somehow the idea of simply leaving people alone just does not occur to our political masters, and probably never will.</p>
<p>That would require a level of commonsense and decency that is far beyond what the men and women in the Big House Across Boat Quay have.</p>
<p>Simply put, I don&#8217;t see what right I have, or for that matter anyone has, to tell another man where he can or cannot place his penis.</p>
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