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	<title>Comments on: Homosexuality as a &#8220;disorder&#8221;: classification denies potential trainee teaching position</title>
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		<title>By: Kernz</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-128788</link>
		<dc:creator>Kernz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whatever , nonsense

Those that still think homosexuality are &#039;disorder&#039; clearly think they are smarter and more professional than those in  American psychological associations. 

Oh dont forget china also declassified homosexual as mental disorder too. 

These so called parents are way more expert in mental disorder than the above specialist.

Way to go guys ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whatever , nonsense</p>
<p>Those that still think homosexuality are &#8216;disorder&#8217; clearly think they are smarter and more professional than those in  American psychological associations. </p>
<p>Oh dont forget china also declassified homosexual as mental disorder too. </p>
<p>These so called parents are way more expert in mental disorder than the above specialist.</p>
<p>Way to go guys &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nonsense</title>
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		<dc:creator>nonsense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s analyze this logically then:

If anal sex can be blatantly robbed from the gay culture and made legal for st8 people but still criminal for gays, is there even any need for discussion on justice. Our laws are uniquely Singaporean and notoriously absurd. They are made to serve the powerful, never mind some laws are laws of averages where it may &quot;appear&quot; that even the rich gets a fine if your wife slaps an airline stewardess, provided you fly 1st class of course. There was punishment what.

Those religious fundies controlling the policies &amp; media DOES NOT want any forms of homosexual lifestyle to be normalized because they want to demonize GLBT (gays, lesbians, Bisexuals and transgenders), yet they bring in great iconic positive role models like the popular Ellen Degeneres show on local TV; although censoring many totally irrelevant and non threatening parts that may even remotely hint of respecting the gay lifestyle as an equal to everyone&#039;s own. 
Such massive stupidity and hypocrisy. Ellen is known for her great big generous heart &amp; charity towards humanity and yet, in the dead minds of our controlling bodies, she is not to be emulated or normalized. They can never even imagine to be a drop near as respectable nor successful as Ellen.

If gays were made by gay proxy, then where did the first gay come from since ALL gay children came from straight parents?  Oops, I forgot- the DEVIL made them. Yeah right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s analyze this logically then:</p>
<p>If anal sex can be blatantly robbed from the gay culture and made legal for st8 people but still criminal for gays, is there even any need for discussion on justice. Our laws are uniquely Singaporean and notoriously absurd. They are made to serve the powerful, never mind some laws are laws of averages where it may &#8220;appear&#8221; that even the rich gets a fine if your wife slaps an airline stewardess, provided you fly 1st class of course. There was punishment what.</p>
<p>Those religious fundies controlling the policies &amp; media DOES NOT want any forms of homosexual lifestyle to be normalized because they want to demonize GLBT (gays, lesbians, Bisexuals and transgenders), yet they bring in great iconic positive role models like the popular Ellen Degeneres show on local TV; although censoring many totally irrelevant and non threatening parts that may even remotely hint of respecting the gay lifestyle as an equal to everyone&#8217;s own.<br />
Such massive stupidity and hypocrisy. Ellen is known for her great big generous heart &amp; charity towards humanity and yet, in the dead minds of our controlling bodies, she is not to be emulated or normalized. They can never even imagine to be a drop near as respectable nor successful as Ellen.</p>
<p>If gays were made by gay proxy, then where did the first gay come from since ALL gay children came from straight parents?  Oops, I forgot- the DEVIL made them. Yeah right!</p>
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		<title>By: Whatever</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-77055</link>
		<dc:creator>Whatever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IDK, seems like a pretty stupid reason to dismiss a teacher, especially put up against the medical opinion that homosexuality isn&#039;t a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IDK, seems like a pretty stupid reason to dismiss a teacher, especially put up against the medical opinion that homosexuality isn&#8217;t a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Pro</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1121</link>
		<dc:creator>Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 08:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think no one is in the position to judge Francis&#039;s &#039;passion to teach&#039;.

The keyword here is &#039;medically unfit&#039;.

They do not strap straight teachers-to-be to polygraphs to evaluate whether they are potential paedophiles or perverts.
But they send gay applicants straight to the psychiatrist to be profiled like so.

What is the common practice here?
The inconsistency of their practices, actions and statements is more important here.

Anal sex betweeen consenting heterosexuals is now legal.
If they have so much problem with homosexuality, think about the straight teachers who can be pretty much doing the same in bed and being a role model to your children as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think no one is in the position to judge Francis&#8217;s &#8216;passion to teach&#8217;.</p>
<p>The keyword here is &#8216;medically unfit&#8217;.</p>
<p>They do not strap straight teachers-to-be to polygraphs to evaluate whether they are potential paedophiles or perverts.<br />
But they send gay applicants straight to the psychiatrist to be profiled like so.</p>
<p>What is the common practice here?<br />
The inconsistency of their practices, actions and statements is more important here.</p>
<p>Anal sex betweeen consenting heterosexuals is now legal.<br />
If they have so much problem with homosexuality, think about the straight teachers who can be pretty much doing the same in bed and being a role model to your children as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Kf, I&#039;m really not being judgemental here. Just that the way the article was written made me think this way.

Well, I&#039;m not putting putting down anything or anybody here but it&#039;s really a fact that we have to acknowledge - the S&#039;pore govt is still not as open as we think it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Kf, I&#8217;m really not being judgemental here. Just that the way the article was written made me think this way.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m not putting putting down anything or anybody here but it&#8217;s really a fact that we have to acknowledge &#8211; the S&#8217;pore govt is still not as open as we think it is.</p>
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		<title>By: kf</title>
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		<dc:creator>kf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IMHO, the Teacher above is not SUITABLE to teach since he/she has a negative attitude to begin with. A good teacher would think that teachers have a POSITIVE influence on their students.

The first thing that struck my mind reading his comments was that this Teacher is too judgmental and fails to think logically. I suggest that this Teacher&#039;s right to teach should be scrutinized again.

Sure... MOE can give people like this Teacher the right to teach. But trust me, I don&#039;t think he is a positive role model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IMHO, the Teacher above is not SUITABLE to teach since he/she has a negative attitude to begin with. A good teacher would think that teachers have a POSITIVE influence on their students.</p>
<p>The first thing that struck my mind reading his comments was that this Teacher is too judgmental and fails to think logically. I suggest that this Teacher&#8217;s right to teach should be scrutinized again.</p>
<p>Sure&#8230; MOE can give people like this Teacher the right to teach. But trust me, I don&#8217;t think he is a positive role model.</p>
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		<title>By: teacher</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1117</link>
		<dc:creator>teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher in a local primary school and I have to say that the teachers DO really have an adverse influence on their students. Well, instead of saying they are NOT ALLOWED to teach, let&#039;s think it in this way - they are NOT SUITABLE to teach. Like a female not suitable to work as a construction worker.

Looking at &#039;Francis&#039; in this article, the first thing that struck my mind was - he doesn&#039;t love teaching. It seems that he was going more for the free education and allowance. Francis&#039;s passion to teach, nurture and educate (or the lack of it) should be scrutinised in this case.

Sure.. MOE can give the green light for gays to teach. But trust me, the parents never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher in a local primary school and I have to say that the teachers DO really have an adverse influence on their students. Well, instead of saying they are NOT ALLOWED to teach, let&#8217;s think it in this way &#8211; they are NOT SUITABLE to teach. Like a female not suitable to work as a construction worker.</p>
<p>Looking at &#8216;Francis&#8217; in this article, the first thing that struck my mind was &#8211; he doesn&#8217;t love teaching. It seems that he was going more for the free education and allowance. Francis&#8217;s passion to teach, nurture and educate (or the lack of it) should be scrutinised in this case.</p>
<p>Sure.. MOE can give the green light for gays to teach. But trust me, the parents never will.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Sam</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 21:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How comfortable are parents with a male teacher teaches their daughters, and a female teacher teaches their sons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How comfortable are parents with a male teacher teaches their daughters, and a female teacher teaches their sons?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 03:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How comfortable are parents with have a gay teacher teach their kids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How comfortable are parents with have a gay teacher teach their kids?</p>
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		<title>By: ganchau</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1120</link>
		<dc:creator>ganchau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, I&#039;d rather have a gay teacher who has the heart and the talent to teach, rather than a straight teacher who only teaches for the salary!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I&#8217;d rather have a gay teacher who has the heart and the talent to teach, rather than a straight teacher who only teaches for the salary!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Law O</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1116</link>
		<dc:creator>Law O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read this case, I quite like to think that if one lied about one&#039;s sexuality, i.e. claiming to be hetero when one is homo, then that could get one admitted into MOE. Surely a dishonest person is worse that an honest one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read this case, I quite like to think that if one lied about one&#8217;s sexuality, i.e. claiming to be hetero when one is homo, then that could get one admitted into MOE. Surely a dishonest person is worse that an honest one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder Stibbons</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1113</link>
		<dc:creator>Ponder Stibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair Justice:

Good point, and makes one wonder why MOE dares at all to send male teachers to girls&#039; schools or female teachers to boys&#039; schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair Justice:</p>
<p>Good point, and makes one wonder why MOE dares at all to send male teachers to girls&#8217; schools or female teachers to boys&#8217; schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Koh Jie Kai</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/06/homosexuality-as-a-disorder-classification-denies-potential-trainee-teaching-position/comment-page-1/#comment-1119</link>
		<dc:creator>Koh Jie Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 00:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like bigotry is not just confined to gay people- eplileptics get it tough too, according to an ST report today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like bigotry is not just confined to gay people- eplileptics get it tough too, according to an ST report today.</p>
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		<title>By: Homosapiens</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homosapiens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a homosexual is deemed medically unfit to be a teacher-in-training, then a homosapien who stigmatized someone else should be socially unfit to exist in a homosapien society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a homosexual is deemed medically unfit to be a teacher-in-training, then a homosapien who stigmatized someone else should be socially unfit to exist in a homosapien society.</p>
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		<title>By: Chew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this what the government is calling efficiency?

In the blink of an eye:
1) they can decide to give themselves an obscene pay raise.
2) they can raise GST to finance the pay raise.

And yet drag their feet on deciding matters like this and even worse, give non-replies and contradicting signals.

What I can see here is that as long as it benefits the government and richen their pockets, they will go ahead, but when things do not affect them or their family, they don&#039;t actually give a damn about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this what the government is calling efficiency?</p>
<p>In the blink of an eye:<br />
1) they can decide to give themselves an obscene pay raise.<br />
2) they can raise GST to finance the pay raise.</p>
<p>And yet drag their feet on deciding matters like this and even worse, give non-replies and contradicting signals.</p>
<p>What I can see here is that as long as it benefits the government and richen their pockets, they will go ahead, but when things do not affect them or their family, they don&#8217;t actually give a damn about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fair Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fair Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If MOE was afraid that &quot;Francis&quot; would fall in love with one of the boys in school, then MOE could assign &quot;him&quot; to a girl school instead.  The girls would be 100% safe, if the psychiatrist was correct in her judgment and recommendation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If MOE was afraid that &#8220;Francis&#8221; would fall in love with one of the boys in school, then MOE could assign &#8220;him&#8221; to a girl school instead.  The girls would be 100% safe, if the psychiatrist was correct in her judgment and recommendation!</p>
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