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		<title>By: YAY! No more blood will be shed for skimpily clad women! &#171; Looking For LaLaLand&#8230;..</title>
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		<dc:creator>YAY! No more blood will be shed for skimpily clad women! &#171; Looking For LaLaLand&#8230;..</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 02:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “You may be well behaving, but there may be other people whom you come across when you cycle who may stop you, may want to debate with you and that may attract a crowd, therefore will result in problems the police want to avoid”. (TOC) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “You may be well behaving, but there may be other people whom you come across when you cycle who may stop you, may want to debate with you and that may attract a crowd, therefore will result in problems the police want to avoid”. (TOC) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A gracious society? I’d settle for a gracious government &#171; Red Little Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>A gracious society? I’d settle for a gracious government &#171; Red Little Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 10:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] “If you listened very carefully Mr Low, I don’t know whether his hearing aid is with him because he wears one, I said there is a greater potential for law and order problems.” (link) (link) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] “If you listened very carefully Mr Low, I don’t know whether his hearing aid is with him because he wears one, I said there is a greater potential for law and order problems.” (link) (link) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-2/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;why don’t the opposition stage a kite flying event at the Marina…should be safe rite if we go by the logic of our stupid MP!&quot;

Well then again, Vivian B might say it is dangerous because the string of the kite might just broken by strong wind in Marina, and possibly (Recall that Singapore is a city of possibilities !) hit the head of a valuable million dollars ministers, making him lose his moral authority !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why don’t the opposition stage a kite flying event at the Marina…should be safe rite if we go by the logic of our stupid MP!&#8221;</p>
<p>Well then again, Vivian B might say it is dangerous because the string of the kite might just broken by strong wind in Marina, and possibly (Recall that Singapore is a city of possibilities !) hit the head of a valuable million dollars ministers, making him lose his moral authority !</p>
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		<title>By: blackfeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackfeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why don&#039;t the opposition stage a kite flying event at the Marina...should be safe rite if we go by the logic of our stupid MP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why don&#8217;t the opposition stage a kite flying event at the Marina&#8230;should be safe rite if we go by the logic of our stupid MP!</p>
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		<title>By: blackfeline</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-2/#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator>blackfeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 08:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well...since we have so many clowns in our government...why don&#039;t they start the world first MPs circus...at least i have being proven wrong..i thought they were morons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well&#8230;since we have so many clowns in our government&#8230;why don&#8217;t they start the world first MPs circus&#8230;at least i have being proven wrong..i thought they were morons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Permit, The Cycling Event and a Fourth University &#171; Winter Is Coming</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-2/#comment-1875</link>
		<dc:creator>The Permit, The Cycling Event and a Fourth University &#171; Winter Is Coming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Peng Kee has been imprinted in the minds of the netizens. Indeed many bloggers have already said their piece. Personally I found Prof Ho&#8217;s comments on Mr Low insulting; much akin to a low blow and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Peng Kee has been imprinted in the minds of the netizens. Indeed many bloggers have already said their piece. Personally I found Prof Ho&#8217;s comments on Mr Low insulting; much akin to a low blow and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Chew</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-2/#comment-1889</link>
		<dc:creator>James Chew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 08:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;cite&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/cite&gt;

translated:
&lt;b&gt;&quot;Inclusive society? Gracious society?&quot;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
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<p>translated:<br />
<b>&#8220;Inclusive society? Gracious society?&#8221;</b></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 04:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Choong Yong,

Got any english translation? Might be good for those not so good in mandarin... :)

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Choong Yong,</p>
<p>Got any english translation? Might be good for those not so good in mandarin&#8230; :)</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Choong Yong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1878</link>
		<dc:creator>Choong Yong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 03:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/ynmkko&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;包容性社会？优雅社会？&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/ynmkko" rel="nofollow">包容性社会？优雅社会？</a></p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1893</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do we need so many clowns in the parliament ? Especially very expensive clowns. We better outsource these clowns because other clowns from other countries can tell better jokes than these over qualifiedjokers. We can save millions dollars every year by outsourcing and use these millions to build welfare instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do we need so many clowns in the parliament ? Especially very expensive clowns. We better outsource these clowns because other clowns from other countries can tell better jokes than these over qualifiedjokers. We can save millions dollars every year by outsourcing and use these millions to build welfare instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Seeking Salvation</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1892</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeking Salvation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 10:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It disgraceful that a simple question raise by a credible opposition results in a personal attack (i wouldn&#039;t even call it a feeble reply) on a hearing impaired.  There is simply no graciousness in the reply whatever has been said lauds well that
well paid leaders might not carry themselves well. This instance
speaks well that it is worrisome on the personal charisma and interpersonal attitude of a supposedly leader.  I am as well
vote for Ling How Doong at least he go straight to the point
Don&#039;t TALK COCK WHICH IS MEANT FOR THAT INCREDIBLE PERSON WHO GAVE A STUPID TWIT REPLY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It disgraceful that a simple question raise by a credible opposition results in a personal attack (i wouldn&#8217;t even call it a feeble reply) on a hearing impaired.  There is simply no graciousness in the reply whatever has been said lauds well that<br />
well paid leaders might not carry themselves well. This instance<br />
speaks well that it is worrisome on the personal charisma and interpersonal attitude of a supposedly leader.  I am as well<br />
vote for Ling How Doong at least he go straight to the point<br />
Don&#8217;t TALK COCK WHICH IS MEANT FOR THAT INCREDIBLE PERSON WHO GAVE A STUPID TWIT REPLY</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Teh Kok Hua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1891</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Teh Kok Hua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will we do better to have elected a full house of 84 MPs who are highly educated talented either in possession of highly educated scholastic achievements or those with CEO status to impress the world or investors who follow instructions for benchmarking of ministers&#039; salaries to lucky CEOs in the private sector or for refusing to issue permits to political parties for holding of anniversaries on the ground of preventing disorderly behavior or is it better to have a house which may be full of nitwit MPs standing for election as individual candidates selected outside GRC grouping chosen by the people at random to speak up for them in bahasa or hokien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will we do better to have elected a full house of 84 MPs who are highly educated talented either in possession of highly educated scholastic achievements or those with CEO status to impress the world or investors who follow instructions for benchmarking of ministers&#8217; salaries to lucky CEOs in the private sector or for refusing to issue permits to political parties for holding of anniversaries on the ground of preventing disorderly behavior or is it better to have a house which may be full of nitwit MPs standing for election as individual candidates selected outside GRC grouping chosen by the people at random to speak up for them in bahasa or hokien.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1890</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 06:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DK,

He is MP for Nee Soon East...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK,</p>
<p>He is MP for Nee Soon East&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LifesLikeThat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1899</link>
		<dc:creator>LifesLikeThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prof Ho&#039;s answer can be applied to any situation.
That is both the genius of it - and the plain stupidity of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prof Ho&#8217;s answer can be applied to any situation.<br />
That is both the genius of it &#8211; and the plain stupidity of it.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1898</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 05:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DK , it clearly show our gov like Yes-man of very good qualification, and especially professor of bootlicking characteristics !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DK , it clearly show our gov like Yes-man of very good qualification, and especially professor of bootlicking characteristics !</p>
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		<title>By: DK</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1897</link>
		<dc:creator>DK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 02:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, seriously..... Who voted that fellow into parliament?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, seriously&#8230;.. Who voted that fellow into parliament?</p>
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		<title>By: old teenage hopes are alive at your door &#171; BERITA HAIRAN</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1881</link>
		<dc:creator>old teenage hopes are alive at your door &#171; BERITA HAIRAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 14:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] no need to worry, he won&#8217;t question you like that in the parliament.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] no need to worry, he won&#8217;t question you like that in the parliament.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/the-slippery-slope-argument-again/comment-page-1/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vivian Balakrishnan’s warning of:

“If you want to dance, some of us will fall off that bar-top. Some people will die as a result of liberalising bar-top dancing, not just because they have fallen off the bar-top. Because usually a young girl, with a short skirt, dancing on a bar-top, may attract some insults from some other men, and the boyfriend starts fighting. Some people will die. Blood will be shed for liberalising this policy.”


Since VB is so paranoid, why not also warn foreigner not to come to Singapore because they might be overstress in Singapore that they will jump the MRT track. And ask us not to go overseas because US, Israel, Taiwan, Japan etc are dangerous countries because of terrorism or natural disaster like earthquake.
Why not also tell ppl not to go NS because in NS you playing with dangerous weapon that might misfire, kill you, blow you to pieces !

It unbelieveable, the ministers can blah reckless excuses to justify their millions dollars salary and support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vivian Balakrishnan’s warning of:</p>
<p>“If you want to dance, some of us will fall off that bar-top. Some people will die as a result of liberalising bar-top dancing, not just because they have fallen off the bar-top. Because usually a young girl, with a short skirt, dancing on a bar-top, may attract some insults from some other men, and the boyfriend starts fighting. Some people will die. Blood will be shed for liberalising this policy.”</p>
<p>Since VB is so paranoid, why not also warn foreigner not to come to Singapore because they might be overstress in Singapore that they will jump the MRT track. And ask us not to go overseas because US, Israel, Taiwan, Japan etc are dangerous countries because of terrorism or natural disaster like earthquake.<br />
Why not also tell ppl not to go NS because in NS you playing with dangerous weapon that might misfire, kill you, blow you to pieces !</p>
<p>It unbelieveable, the ministers can blah reckless excuses to justify their millions dollars salary and support.</p>
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		<title>By: Jermin Chia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jermin Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 12:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha!
When i first heard the broadcast of the Highlights of Parliament on Channel 5, I couldnt believe my ears.
The argument made by Prof. Ho Peng Kee is really something that is not substantiated by logic and reasoning.
Is the PAP really so afraid of the WP gaining clout?

Seeing that they can continue their tactics of intimidation and using the electoral boundaries to their advantage when the next election comes, I dont see why they should be afraid of the WP.

However, we should all view this as a back-handed compliment by the  PAP, because it is clear that Prof. Ho&#039;s reply is orchestrated by someone higher in the power hierarchy.

This is a quote from Gerald : #  Gerald Says:
August 29th, 2007 at 9:49 am

&quot;I find it SHOCKING that an innocuous cycling event would be banned by the PAP. Are they really so fearful of the WP, a small party which couldn’t even win more than 1 full parliamentary seat in the last two elections? Can you imagine how scared they will be if more seats were won by the WP?

I think we should go easy on the old professor. He is only the front man doing the Government’s bidding. I have no doubt that this was a decision taken by some higher ups in the party. Unfortunately he got arrowed to defend it in Parliament. His weak and laughable arguments only serve to explain why he has never made it to be a full minister.&quot;

The &#039;someone&#039; higher in the power structure perhaps views the WP now as a credible threat to their 42 years of rule.
Not allowing the WP to hold such an event shows the fear of the PAP . They are pulling all stops to contain the WP, but my guess is that the more they try to contain the WP, the greater the backlash would be against the PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha!<br />
When i first heard the broadcast of the Highlights of Parliament on Channel 5, I couldnt believe my ears.<br />
The argument made by Prof. Ho Peng Kee is really something that is not substantiated by logic and reasoning.<br />
Is the PAP really so afraid of the WP gaining clout?</p>
<p>Seeing that they can continue their tactics of intimidation and using the electoral boundaries to their advantage when the next election comes, I dont see why they should be afraid of the WP.</p>
<p>However, we should all view this as a back-handed compliment by the  PAP, because it is clear that Prof. Ho&#8217;s reply is orchestrated by someone higher in the power hierarchy.</p>
<p>This is a quote from Gerald : #  Gerald Says:<br />
August 29th, 2007 at 9:49 am</p>
<p>&#8220;I find it SHOCKING that an innocuous cycling event would be banned by the PAP. Are they really so fearful of the WP, a small party which couldn’t even win more than 1 full parliamentary seat in the last two elections? Can you imagine how scared they will be if more seats were won by the WP?</p>
<p>I think we should go easy on the old professor. He is only the front man doing the Government’s bidding. I have no doubt that this was a decision taken by some higher ups in the party. Unfortunately he got arrowed to defend it in Parliament. His weak and laughable arguments only serve to explain why he has never made it to be a full minister.&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8217;someone&#8217; higher in the power structure perhaps views the WP now as a credible threat to their 42 years of rule.<br />
Not allowing the WP to hold such an event shows the fear of the PAP . They are pulling all stops to contain the WP, but my guess is that the more they try to contain the WP, the greater the backlash would be against the PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 09:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the sarcasm and insult by Ho to another member of parliament in a parliament was ill-mannered, ungracious and to allow this to happen in a parliament is a disgrace to singapore.

the denial of a permit for a cycling event is stupid and the reason given for the denial is all the more sickening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the sarcasm and insult by Ho to another member of parliament in a parliament was ill-mannered, ungracious and to allow this to happen in a parliament is a disgrace to singapore.</p>
<p>the denial of a permit for a cycling event is stupid and the reason given for the denial is all the more sickening.</p>
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