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	<title>Comments on: Public Transport: Uniquely Singapore, F1 or F9?</title>
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		<title>By: 1.5% GST Increase for free public transport &#124; Endoh's Dungeon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-41710</link>
		<dc:creator>1.5% GST Increase for free public transport &#124; Endoh's Dungeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I see is a catastrophic breakdown in the reasoning system here, even though everything seemed all sound and well. The recession has not only brought out the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Onlooker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2356</link>
		<dc:creator>Onlooker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No wonder The American say that our cost of living is one of the highest in this region.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder The American say that our cost of living is one of the highest in this region.</p>
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		<title>By: annabel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2355</link>
		<dc:creator>annabel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the current strategy our great PAP uses is to suck up inflationary causing personal disposable income as Singaporeans do not know how to save or invest, raise the prices of stocks for the State Owned Enterprises to help ensure the PAP affiliated CEOs receive large bonuses and increase the values of the stocks they are holding, and continue to provide a surplus budget for PAP.

I am proud that the PAP is elected again. It is a world class feat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the current strategy our great PAP uses is to suck up inflationary causing personal disposable income as Singaporeans do not know how to save or invest, raise the prices of stocks for the State Owned Enterprises to help ensure the PAP affiliated CEOs receive large bonuses and increase the values of the stocks they are holding, and continue to provide a surplus budget for PAP.</p>
<p>I am proud that the PAP is elected again. It is a world class feat!</p>
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		<title>By: JFK</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2352</link>
		<dc:creator>JFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I was looking at my crystal ball I had a vision, that we soon would have the ERP system in shopping malls and other places to control human traffic.
With the EZ-link card we just have to walk through the gantry and a tiny fee is applied.

Reason is because Singapore&#039;s population is going to swell to 6.5 million and soon it will get crowded in all places.

Best way to control human traffic is to ERRECT a gantry in shopping malls , toilets etc.

Take for example if a WP member were shopping and he bumped into an opposition party and there was a exchange of heated words. A fight or even worse riot might break out in the mall.

And we would have to WASte PUBlic resources such as the riot police in their red cars to come down to break up these fights or protests, as we have seen in the ODEX saga.

If we have a gantry errected in public places, this will deter people from going to a place for no real reason.
This way the real shoppers can shop in comfort.

It&#039;s a great way to control human traffic!

Example shopping mall, PUblick toilets.
We don&#039;t want people loitering when they are suppose to be working till they kick the bucket

We might want to implement this system quickly as to be the 1st in the world or maybe universe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I was looking at my crystal ball I had a vision, that we soon would have the ERP system in shopping malls and other places to control human traffic.<br />
With the EZ-link card we just have to walk through the gantry and a tiny fee is applied.</p>
<p>Reason is because Singapore&#8217;s population is going to swell to 6.5 million and soon it will get crowded in all places.</p>
<p>Best way to control human traffic is to ERRECT a gantry in shopping malls , toilets etc.</p>
<p>Take for example if a WP member were shopping and he bumped into an opposition party and there was a exchange of heated words. A fight or even worse riot might break out in the mall.</p>
<p>And we would have to WASte PUBlic resources such as the riot police in their red cars to come down to break up these fights or protests, as we have seen in the ODEX saga.</p>
<p>If we have a gantry errected in public places, this will deter people from going to a place for no real reason.<br />
This way the real shoppers can shop in comfort.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a great way to control human traffic!</p>
<p>Example shopping mall, PUblick toilets.<br />
We don&#8217;t want people loitering when they are suppose to be working till they kick the bucket</p>
<p>We might want to implement this system quickly as to be the 1st in the world or maybe universe!</p>
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		<title>By: Ponder Stibbons</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2353</link>
		<dc:creator>Ponder Stibbons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Steven said. Public transport has positive externalities in that it helps to decrease pollution, road congestion, and other attendant negative environmental effects of motor traffic usage. Thus it should be subsidised by the revenues the govt gets from the taxes on private motor vehicle ownership and usage (i.e. COE, ERP, petrol taxes and road taxes). There is no justification whatsoever for requiring public transport companies to make a profit. They are not supposed to act like private enterprises. Their main motivation should be to benefit society, not to benefit shareholders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Steven said. Public transport has positive externalities in that it helps to decrease pollution, road congestion, and other attendant negative environmental effects of motor traffic usage. Thus it should be subsidised by the revenues the govt gets from the taxes on private motor vehicle ownership and usage (i.e. COE, ERP, petrol taxes and road taxes). There is no justification whatsoever for requiring public transport companies to make a profit. They are not supposed to act like private enterprises. Their main motivation should be to benefit society, not to benefit shareholders.</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2354</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JFK, indeed we have a GLC companies that masquerade as private companies so to get benefit from government (etc, access to tax money ) and at same time obtain benefit of private companies (etc doesn&#039;t need to be accountable to public). Kill two bird with one stone.

As when to be gov and when to be private, those cronies companies has their own  discretion to choose to maximize their benefit and agenda.

We should be proud of such gov !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFK, indeed we have a GLC companies that masquerade as private companies so to get benefit from government (etc, access to tax money ) and at same time obtain benefit of private companies (etc doesn&#8217;t need to be accountable to public). Kill two bird with one stone.</p>
<p>As when to be gov and when to be private, those cronies companies has their own  discretion to choose to maximize their benefit and agenda.</p>
<p>We should be proud of such gov !</p>
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		<title>By: JFK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry , I left school some time ago.

Can someone tell me what PUBLIC transport is all about ?

Is it about profits ?

What about PUBLIC housing ?

I guess we should classify them as PRIVATE transport and PRIVATE housing.

This way there will be no dispute.

And also we should invite other competitors to give us, the client value for money services.

At the end of the day, prices increase
jobs are scarce, and salary is reduced to frags.

End result,
We all should vote for a govt that cares for its people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry , I left school some time ago.</p>
<p>Can someone tell me what PUBLIC transport is all about ?</p>
<p>Is it about profits ?</p>
<p>What about PUBLIC housing ?</p>
<p>I guess we should classify them as PRIVATE transport and PRIVATE housing.</p>
<p>This way there will be no dispute.</p>
<p>And also we should invite other competitors to give us, the client value for money services.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, prices increase<br />
jobs are scarce, and salary is reduced to frags.</p>
<p>End result,<br />
We all should vote for a govt that cares for its people.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2348</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i may sound stupid, but since we take public transports, aren&#039;t we lessening the traffic already? shouldn&#039;t the car owners bear the public transport hike?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i may sound stupid, but since we take public transports, aren&#8217;t we lessening the traffic already? shouldn&#8217;t the car owners bear the public transport hike?</p>
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		<title>By: RaymondChua</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2350</link>
		<dc:creator>RaymondChua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 02:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything has to make money. Gov want to make money because they are running as Singapore Incorporated. Transportation is one area gov want to monopolize, and everyone knows that to join in transporation competition, those other companies have to bid highly and bear heavy cost whereas the  get to use our tax money. Indeed, with no serious competition, our dear transport company is in a league itself.

For that I&#039;m asking how much budget of taxmoney are set aside for transportation company every year, and how are the profit of the company is been used. Those figures they cited are so nice to hear, but how are these figure benefit the public ? Does it return back to the public ? Or just merely return back to the company with the same old excuse of improving the service or rather improve the wealth of the gahmen ?

We have profitable GLC companies that able to take taxmoney without genuine account of how they spend tax-money ? Indeed, uniquely Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything has to make money. Gov want to make money because they are running as Singapore Incorporated. Transportation is one area gov want to monopolize, and everyone knows that to join in transporation competition, those other companies have to bid highly and bear heavy cost whereas the  get to use our tax money. Indeed, with no serious competition, our dear transport company is in a league itself.</p>
<p>For that I&#8217;m asking how much budget of taxmoney are set aside for transportation company every year, and how are the profit of the company is been used. Those figures they cited are so nice to hear, but how are these figure benefit the public ? Does it return back to the public ? Or just merely return back to the company with the same old excuse of improving the service or rather improve the wealth of the gahmen ?</p>
<p>We have profitable GLC companies that able to take taxmoney without genuine account of how they spend tax-money ? Indeed, uniquely Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Kew Kah Fatt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2349</link>
		<dc:creator>Kew Kah Fatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transportation in Singapore is uniquely Singaporean and it is now a F9 for the matter.
Government has every say in transportation. Compare to Hong Kong, we are way out in evry private participation of the business.
1st is the union of the 3 bus companies to form SBS.
Then the incorporation of NTUC bus and TIBS.
Then the merger of TIBS and SMRT, the NE MRT line going to Comfort Delgro.
Private businessmen have no say in this. Government plan and build Circle MRT lines.
Do you have a say in this ? Are you comsulted ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transportation in Singapore is uniquely Singaporean and it is now a F9 for the matter.<br />
Government has every say in transportation. Compare to Hong Kong, we are way out in evry private participation of the business.<br />
1st is the union of the 3 bus companies to form SBS.<br />
Then the incorporation of NTUC bus and TIBS.<br />
Then the merger of TIBS and SMRT, the NE MRT line going to Comfort Delgro.<br />
Private businessmen have no say in this. Government plan and build Circle MRT lines.<br />
Do you have a say in this ? Are you comsulted ?</p>
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		<title>By: JFK</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/public-transport-uniquely-singapore-f1-or-f9/comment-page-1/#comment-2347</link>
		<dc:creator>JFK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,  can someone shed some light on this ?

Why is there a need for a handout when we are increasing rates across the board. (for the young - old - poor )

Should you not leave out the poor and eldery in this increase?

Is this increase to help the poor too ?
like the GST hike ?

Unique idea , am sure this will help all Singaporeans benefit.

Whats next ? Individual ERP charging when you take a public transport bus that passes through the gantry ??

Show me  the money :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,  can someone shed some light on this ?</p>
<p>Why is there a need for a handout when we are increasing rates across the board. (for the young &#8211; old &#8211; poor )</p>
<p>Should you not leave out the poor and eldery in this increase?</p>
<p>Is this increase to help the poor too ?<br />
like the GST hike ?</p>
<p>Unique idea , am sure this will help all Singaporeans benefit.</p>
<p>Whats next ? Individual ERP charging when you take a public transport bus that passes through the gantry ??</p>
<p>Show me  the money :)</p>
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