Comments on: Subtle but significant shift in government’s stance http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/ a community of Singaporeans Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:44:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Seeking Salvation http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2474 Seeking Salvation Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:38:05 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2474 Its really been determine whether u vote or u a balls carrier we are losers in the end The Parent maintenance bill being passed have already made them wash their hands off taking care of the older folks. However since most of the baby boomers chose not to have kids the parent maintenance bill could not be applied and the ball of the elderly is in the court. So come this cpf announcement and the retirement scheme (to work till u drop dead). If every suckers realises (especially the 66pct jackasses who voted for them ) who else would be retiring comfortably ontheir million dollar salaries. Think about it. Its really been determine whether u vote or u a balls carrier we are losers in the end

The Parent maintenance bill being passed have already made them wash their hands off taking care of the older folks. However since most of the baby boomers chose not to have kids the parent maintenance bill could not be applied and the ball of the elderly is in the court. So come this cpf announcement and the retirement scheme (to work till u drop dead). If every suckers realises (especially the 66pct jackasses who voted for them ) who else would be retiring comfortably ontheir million dollar salaries. Think about it.

]]> By: Onlooker http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2475 Onlooker Sun, 23 Sep 2007 14:30:55 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2475 Wow this have the overtone of the NKF fiasco(now called NGO or non government organization) Sad leh Last time I remember long time back, The letter that "invite" ppl to a dinner seem to have a "on government service" on it leh. Have many MPs including the head honcho(then) wife there too. But after The favorite son MR TT DURAII install the ?Golden toilet thingy, All hell break loose. It disappear leh, how strange hor. NVM We Singaporean is tough lah, They should get pay increase becos we can't spell like miss Wee and they can spell "Supercalifragilisticexpialidoceous". Too bad We will be "crush like cockroaches" quote master of the sea but Still we cannot die until we are 85 rofl :P Wow this have the overtone of the NKF fiasco(now called NGO or non government organization)
Sad leh Last time I remember long time back, The letter that “invite” ppl to a dinner seem to have a “on government service” on it leh. Have many MPs including the head honcho(then) wife there too. But after The favorite son MR TT DURAII install the ?Golden toilet thingy, All hell break loose. It disappear leh, how strange hor.
NVM We Singaporean is tough lah, They should get pay increase becos we can’t spell like miss Wee and they can spell
“Supercalifragilisticexpialidoceous”. Too bad We will be “crush like cockroaches” quote master of the sea but Still we cannot die until we are 85 rofl :P

]]> By: Alex Har http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2473 Alex Har Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:22:59 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2473 At least there is final admission that the governmnet has messed up all this while and there is urgent need to make changes. Of course it comes with the excuse the that world is changing so fast...so its nobody's fault certainly not the fault of the PAP. I guess that's what Singapore citizens will have to evaluate. Having listened to the government and being obedient citizens...did they, or their parents, relatives and friends get the outcome they expected, or were promised. Do they see certain select people of class or person enjoying more benefits not becuase they have contributed more but because they have been able to garner more power? I for one am a happy Singaporean. And I hope that everyone else will explore these questions and gain contentment in the process. If we are just listening to some politicians, whetehr PAP or opposition, we will never be contented...maybe just get some high and lows. My advise for everyone is to sit down to evlauate objectively ...and do share your views. At least there is final admission that the governmnet has messed up all this while and there is urgent need to make changes. Of course it comes with the excuse the that world is changing so fast…so its nobody’s fault certainly not the fault of the PAP.

I guess that’s what Singapore citizens will have to evaluate. Having listened to the government and being obedient citizens…did they, or their parents, relatives and friends get the outcome they expected, or were promised.

Do they see certain select people of class or person enjoying more benefits not becuase they have contributed more but because they have been able to garner more power?

I for one am a happy Singaporean. And I hope that everyone else will explore these questions and gain contentment in the process.

If we are just listening to some politicians, whetehr PAP or opposition, we will never be contented…maybe just get some high and lows.

My advise for everyone is to sit down to evlauate objectively …and do share your views.

]]> By: sevenleleven http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 sevenleleven Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:14:28 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2471 what would be the biggest expenses for the age? I think MEDICAL COST would be the killer. instead of coming up with insulting craps that even a kid would laugh at, the should scrap athe the medi-scheme insurance and come up with one that will look into paying fully the medical cost of elderly even if it meant only a class C ward. look into the present urgent issues, not some crappy money grabbing non-issue what would be the biggest expenses for the age? I think MEDICAL COST would be the killer. instead of coming up with insulting craps that even a kid would laugh at, the should scrap athe the medi-scheme insurance and come up with one that will look into paying fully the medical cost of elderly even if it meant only a class C ward.

look into the present urgent issues, not some crappy money grabbing non-issue

]]> By: RaymondChua http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2470 RaymondChua Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:40:56 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2470 Our gahmen are the world's greatest 'joker' that even batman don't even bother to destroy because batman has already 'die laughing' at the gahmen's tons of excuse and reasons for their PayAndPay money-making justification. Our gahmen are the world’s greatest ‘joker’ that even batman don’t even bother to destroy because batman has already ‘die laughing’ at the gahmen’s tons of excuse and reasons for their PayAndPay money-making justification.

]]> By: Seeking Salvation http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2469 Seeking Salvation Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:10:38 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2469 Let list the honest mistakes Suzhou Industrial Park - Who lost their pants The Great Singtel Subsidy - paying extra compensation for a earlier opening of the telco market - Who benefitted Batamindo Industrial Park - its literally a ghost town with the firms moving out - Smart ACUMEN on well paid officials The Shin Corp debacle - Billions wipe out - U must pay them well so there will be no corruption or else Who whose to decide on your hard earned retirement money when they can't even hold on to the big money THE GREATEST WELL PAID JOKERS ON EARTH Let list the honest mistakes

Suzhou Industrial Park – Who lost their pants
The Great Singtel Subsidy – paying extra compensation for a earlier opening of the telco market – Who benefitted
Batamindo Industrial Park – its literally a ghost town with the
firms moving out – Smart ACUMEN on well paid officials
The Shin Corp debacle – Billions wipe out – U must pay them well
so there will be no corruption or else

Who whose to decide on your hard earned retirement money when they can’t even hold on to the big money

THE GREATEST WELL PAID JOKERS ON EARTH

]]> By: Sylvia Kong http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2464 Sylvia Kong Wed, 19 Sep 2007 13:04:16 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2464 Is there an official website that is collating citizen feedback on this issue? Is there an official website that is collating citizen feedback on this issue?

]]> By: RaymondChua http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2468 RaymondChua Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:03:31 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2468 Andrew Ong , you have to be careful to take the view whether the gov is quick to listen now because they want to move on and put those 'no-reply' questions in the past and throw them into the dustbin. It seem to me that gov is more reactive than proactive in tackling issues. Today, I read a newspaper, and I almost laugh to tear when gov say they care about the citizen by giving 1 percent extra to CPF. Why ? It should have been done early, and why wait until the public place dissent then the gov try to do some damage control and then turn around to save face ? The answer everyone need to know is this: How is the profit earn by GLC ,and the stepboard help the nation and citizen. Oh ya, the gov can stop giving us crap about upgrading cost, road cost, etc blah and blah, because we know everyday PAP's scheme make the world envy about Singapore gov's money-making business. And sure, you have minister telling us that if gov want to help us, we have to help ourselves. Why did the gov still treat us as a child or dummy ? Since when we did not help ourselves ? Read today newspaper, and you find all the excuses, remark and rubbish so crappy and insult to people's intelligence. Andrew Ong ,
you have to be careful to take the view whether the gov is quick to listen now because they want to move on and put those ‘no-reply’ questions in the past and throw them into the dustbin.

It seem to me that gov is more reactive than proactive in tackling issues. Today, I read a newspaper, and I almost laugh to tear when gov say they care about the citizen by giving 1 percent extra to CPF.

Why ? It should have been done early, and why wait until the public place dissent then the gov try to do some damage control and then turn around to save face ?

The answer everyone need to know is this:
How is the profit earn by GLC ,and the stepboard help the nation and citizen. Oh ya, the gov can stop giving us crap about upgrading cost, road cost, etc blah and blah, because we know everyday PAP’s scheme make the world envy about Singapore gov’s money-making business.

And sure, you have minister telling us that if gov want to help us, we have to help ourselves. Why did the gov still treat us as a child or dummy ? Since when we did not help ourselves ?

Read today newspaper, and you find all the excuses, remark and rubbish so crappy and insult to people’s intelligence.

]]> By: blackshirt http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2472 blackshirt Wed, 19 Sep 2007 11:20:02 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2472 Well, certain words may not have repeated but that do not change the substance of the policies and their stances. This is part of the spinning. Please remember how many rounds of talk c**k did they had when they were raising the GST. Remember "Help the poor"?!!! Hard tactics cannot work, so try soft tactics now... This guy could not have said it better. http://freedom-for-man.blogspot.com/2007/09/cpf-lies.html Well, certain words may not have repeated but that do not change the substance of the policies and their stances. This is part of the spinning. Please remember how many rounds of talk c**k did they had when they were raising the GST. Remember “Help the poor”?!!!

Hard tactics cannot work, so try soft tactics now…

This guy could not have said it better.
http://freedom-for-man.blogspot.com/2007/09/cpf-lies.html

]]> By: Steven Lee http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2467 Steven Lee Wed, 19 Sep 2007 03:47:45 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2467 Andrew Ong Says: September 19th, 2007 at 12:02 am Someone candidly commented on our government’s efficiency’ in problem-solving our country’s issues. Well said. Walkways congestion by HDB shophouses leadin to fire that killed residents - the solution is not to clear up the walkway completely but heavier fine. 说得好：组屋商店货物阻塞走道，引致火患闹出人命，不是清除走道，而是罚款。 Andrew Ong Says:
September 19th, 2007 at 12:02 am
Someone candidly commented on our government’s efficiency’ in problem-solving our country’s issues.

Well said. Walkways congestion by HDB shophouses leadin to fire that killed residents – the solution is not to clear up the walkway completely but heavier fine.

说得好：组屋商店货物阻塞走道，引致火患闹出人命，不是清除走道，而是罚款。

]]> By: James Chia http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2465 James Chia Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:51:09 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2465 There's a chinese idiom "Huan4 Tang1 Bu2 Huan4 Yao4" - Change the soup no change medicine. The change is just superficial and cosmetic. There’s a chinese idiom “Huan4 Tang1 Bu2 Huan4 Yao4″ – Change the soup no change medicine. The change is just superficial and cosmetic.

]]> By: Andrew Ong http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/comment-page-1/#comment-2466 Andrew Ong Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:02:34 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/18/subtle-but-significant-shift-in-governments-stance/#comment-2466 Someone candidly commented on our government's efficiency' in problem-solving our country's issues. For instance, Traffic Congestion = ERP, Increase Oil Prices = Transport Fare Hike, More Lower Income Group = Prevailing GST and the latest, Old Age = Annuity Scheme At a glance, it seems that Singaporeans end up the ones $paying$ more in solving these problems. Dun you think this is 'empowerment' at its best? =P But in regards to this entry, I agree with your observation that it is a good sign that the government is adjusting their stance and 'listening' more to the ground. It shows that they do take heed of our views and sentiments. Someone candidly commented on our government’s efficiency’ in problem-solving our country’s issues.

For instance, Traffic Congestion = ERP, Increase Oil Prices = Transport Fare Hike, More Lower Income Group = Prevailing GST and the latest, Old Age = Annuity Scheme

At a glance, it seems that Singaporeans end up the ones $paying$ more in solving these problems.

Dun you think this is ‘empowerment’ at its best? =P

But in regards to this entry, I agree with your observation that it is a good sign that the government is adjusting their stance and ‘listening’ more to the ground. It shows that they do take heed of our views and sentiments.

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