Comments on: Young PAP removes “Night Cycling” item from its website

By: Vaffanculo Day in Italy - Part 1 « My Public Personal Grumblings

Vaffanculo Day in Italy - Part 1 « My Public Personal Grumblings — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:47:55 +0000

[...] Me: Yes, they try to… But they were prohibited from even organising some of their own private cycling event in public (also listen to this mrbrown show on why political party mass cycling is prohibited). Apparently the opposition party needs to apply some official permit from our ruling party first. Moreover, I heard when they brought up such issues in parliamentary debates, they were subjected to personal insults/attacks on their disabilities (another mrbrown show on sarcastic parliament). But the interesting thing is that the ruling party can organise any public event they like without any permit e.g. the young PAP cycling event! [...]

By: Clarence

Clarence — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 07:09:09 +0000

hahaha what a cover-up. unfortunately nowadays there are simply so many people watching that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do so.

LOL. well done.

By: anon1234

anon1234 — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:49:25 +0000

Singapore, a world class country is not invited.

http://www.freedomhouse.org/template.cfm?page=70&release=548

By: RaymondChua

RaymondChua — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:53:04 +0000

Singapore Sundry write heading about
‘Now You See It, Now You Don’t!’ about the cycling event.

*Comments edited for relevance. The article is about the cycling ban, not about the CPF, ministers salaries and so on.

By: WH-YPAP

WH-YPAP — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:17:02 +0000

It doesnt matter if it was remove from website or whether they cancelled the event.

The crux is YPAP still got the permit when it matters most and WP did not get the permit.

One country many systems is still very much alive.

The question is whether Singaporeans wants to stay in such a country.

By: A slow news day « la nausée

A slow news day « la nausée — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 15:16:40 +0000

[...] only thing moderately interesting was this article by theonlinecitizen: “Young PAP removes ‘Night Cycling’ item from its website… (to understand the hilarity of the situation, you’ve got to know the back-story, [...]

By: Eternal Flame

Eternal Flame — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 11:35:02 +0000

[...] has overcome this primal fear. There are unjust and illegal laws made to look like the norm and sub-standards which enlightened citizens are always able to detect with ease. This much is certain- the flame of [...]

By: spyer

spyer — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:39:29 +0000

The million dollars ideas allow you to choose their choices only, the free ideas provide choices that do not tie to any political vested interests.

By: scb

scb — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:12:18 +0000

It is high time to make the running(management) of the Country into a public issue and not just political issue.

Every measure, policy implemented by the Leadership affect the well-being of the people (masses) and the Country. The Internet has given policy makers accesses to the expertise, wisdom, professional opinion and idea which the Leadership can tap into at absolutely no cost and risk.

They (policy makers) can pick, choose and ignore contributions as they deem fit, but to ignore everything put up by their citizens is like treating them (the people) as ‘pariah’. From the declared profiles of most socio-political bloggers, they are mostly successful professionals whose only ‘political’ ambition is the wish that the people live safely, healthily and happily.

Most bloggers are not members of political parties or politicians themselves, some; I even suspect, are working for Stat boards and Government linked organisations. The most important aspect of the contributions make by these critical active citizens is the relevance of their opinions and ideas which obviously are not made for fun and ridicule.

Their reminders only get harsh and stinging when they are treated as invisible, useless or even trouble makings. Despite efforts by Catherine Lim and others warning policy makers of the affective divide; the Leadership, it seems, is adamant that it is the wisest and holiest, art thou?

By: rotties

rotties — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 07:19:49 +0000

“…we have run a clean system, and hence have nothing to hide.”

What a joke…

We need to clean up our sg government just like how the italians are doing it… (http://www.beppegrillo.it/eng/condannati_parlamento.php)

By: Fire Phoenix

Fire Phoenix — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:40:58 +0000

WP tried to have a mass cycling event and permission denied. It is possible that YP will not have any more night cycling event. Perhaps, they will hold it under the banner of CC.

By: James Chia

James Chia — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:07:27 +0000

“The most potent impact that the new media will have on politics is that, politicians will find it impossible to lie in the future. The truth will always be out there, because somewhere, someone has the facts, or has seen something, and will publish it. Fortunately for us in Singapore , we have run a clean system, and hence have nothing to hide.” (Source: Ministry of Information, Communication and Arts)

The YoungPAP certainly is trying to hide something from the public. “Clean system”? Certainly not.

By: RaymondChua

RaymondChua — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:29:40 +0000

Though I wonder if the reason that gov make the decision to cancel their cycling activity is due to the immense response collected from this blog site because there’s currently not many aggregators able to match the content and quality of the articles here.

It is hardly the effort of external physical activities because there is no protest, and information continue to be suppressed in mainstream media even in radio. So I think that this is the impact online Citizen has made.

Of course, ppl place comment in establishment’s site, but seriously the more those young PAP answer the injustice, the more exposure it generate on the issue.

If indeed this the case, we will have ‘Strait Time 2.0:The Untold Story’ in Online Citizen , haha

By: Andrew Loh

Andrew Loh — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:27:33 +0000

Hi VD,

Actually, I am quite saddened and disappointed by the YPAP. Besides their atrocious remarks about gay people on their blog site, this removal of the “Night Cycling” event has thrown up certain questions about them.

Maybe they can clarify why they did what they did on their blog.

By: Andrew Loh

Andrew Loh — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:20:35 +0000

Thanks, Aaron, for the trackback. Allow me to post the Vivian Balakrishnan quote here, which you posted on your site: "The most potent impact that the new media will have on politics is that, politicians will find it impossible to lie in the future. The truth will always be out there, because somewhere, someone has the facts, or has seen something, and will publish it. Fortunately for us in Singapore , we have run a clean system, and hence have nothing to hide." (Source: Ministry of Information, Communication and Arts)

By: RaymondChua

RaymondChua — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:20:05 +0000

“For every truth PAP withhold is every damn lie make.”

which mean if PAP continue to withhold the truth and spoke half truth, then whatever they say to us is just pure lie. Who will want to trust a double-head snake ? Does a double-head snake has credibility, honesty and integrity ?

Had the gov keep to their words and promises, the people will be much happier, but whenever those protocol and trust is broken, it means the only way to keep current regime is to suppress and oppress the people.

The feeling I get over LKY’s remark and minister’s remark are these:
If people do not trust the gov, why should the gov trust the people ? Indeed, when you have this chick and egg problem, the bigger loser is the people.

By: The Void Deck

The Void Deck — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:19:21 +0000

ohoh! Someone tio PWNED!!!! hehe nice shot TOC! We oso try our bestest best to spread the news!

By: Hear ye! Hear ye! » Blog Archive » Young PAP exposed!

Hear ye! Hear ye! » Blog Archive » Young PAP exposed! — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:11:23 +0000

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By: Andrew Loh

Andrew Loh — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:37:27 +0000

By the way, I think if it were any opposition party, this would be fully reported in the mainstream media. Just as they reported the so-called “spat” between 2 ex-WP members in online forums.

But since the Young PAP is reported to be holding “monthly info sessions to reach out to Singaporeans”, I don’t think the MSM will be allowed to report this boo boo.

Just as the MSM has also not reported Mdm Halimah Yacob’s reply on 93.8FM’s radio programme that “ministers are no longer given pensions”.

By: Andrew Loh

Andrew Loh — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 02:28:50 +0000

The Young PAP website also has an explanation about its “values and attributes”. You can see it here on their website.

They include “Reliable – Can Trust”.