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	<title>Comments on: NMP’s views at odds with AIDS relief research paper</title>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The term used is &quot;sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material&quot;, the &#039;neutral&#039; is not carrying any sexual orientation specific message.

Say, do we need charity fund raising Ads targeting specific social groups or the Ads can be effective to all in general.  Don&#039;t just think straight or gay, think sexually active and safe sex.  How you think shape the kind of Ads and effective messages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term used is &#8220;sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material&#8221;, the &#8216;neutral&#8217; is not carrying any sexual orientation specific message.</p>
<p>Say, do we need charity fund raising Ads targeting specific social groups or the Ads can be effective to all in general.  Don&#8217;t just think straight or gay, think sexually active and safe sex.  How you think shape the kind of Ads and effective messages.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarek

&quot;Why try to drag in a heterosexual safe sex message example when we are asking why not using sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material?&quot;

Sexual orientation neutral? Orientation is axiomatically something which one is inclined towards, so there is no &#039;neutrality&#039; and would be pretty foolish of advertisers not to play certain inclinations up in their ads.

Suppose the cat food market isn&#039;t being effectively targeted, while there are many dog food ads in circulation. Do you think having an ad that sells food for pets (pets being &#039;animal neutral&#039;) would appeal to both cat and dog food owners?

&quot;Power of association&quot;

The association becomes most tenuous and derivative, and the message becomes ineffective for both straight and gay people, if you have neutral ads. In no country has a blanket one size fits all HIV campaign worked. I doubt it&#039;s gone done effectively in this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarek</p>
<p>&#8220;Why try to drag in a heterosexual safe sex message example when we are asking why not using sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sexual orientation neutral? Orientation is axiomatically something which one is inclined towards, so there is no &#8216;neutrality&#8217; and would be pretty foolish of advertisers not to play certain inclinations up in their ads.</p>
<p>Suppose the cat food market isn&#8217;t being effectively targeted, while there are many dog food ads in circulation. Do you think having an ad that sells food for pets (pets being &#8216;animal neutral&#8217;) would appeal to both cat and dog food owners?</p>
<p>&#8220;Power of association&#8221;</p>
<p>The association becomes most tenuous and derivative, and the message becomes ineffective for both straight and gay people, if you have neutral ads. In no country has a blanket one size fits all HIV campaign worked. I doubt it&#8217;s gone done effectively in this one.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the ad’s pitch is entirely lost on them&lt;/i&gt;

Why try to drag in a heterosexual safe sex message example when we are asking why not using sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material?

It shows how creative is the mind and we have to wonder if the &quot;the ad’s pitch is entirely lost on them&quot; statement underestimated that power of association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the ad’s pitch is entirely lost on them</i></p>
<p>Why try to drag in a heterosexual safe sex message example when we are asking why not using sexual orientation neutral safe sex act material?</p>
<p>It shows how creative is the mind and we have to wonder if the &#8220;the ad’s pitch is entirely lost on them&#8221; statement underestimated that power of association.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoestring:

&quot;Repealing s377A to coax homosexuals to change their attitudes and reading preferences is akin to giving in to an already spoiled brat who should be taught the proper way to behave instead.&quot;

&quot;Giving condoms to coax straight couples to prevent pregnancy is akin to giving in to wanton couples who should just abstain if they want to stop popping out kids.&quot;

Sports injuries occur amongst professional S-league players at a higher incidence than they do your typical neighbourhood soccer league. Do you &quot;give in to them&quot; if you promote specific injury minimising training methods relevant to pro-athletes in their club&#039;s newsletter? or is it enough to have an article on stretching tips for people who exercise published in Mind Your Body?  Would doing the former be &quot;giving in&quot; to &quot;already spoiled brats&quot; who should change their reading habits/ behaviour (because they shouldn&#039;t be playing that much sport if they don&#039;t want to be injured in any case)?

This is a simple question of relevance and effectiveness. Some time ago, there was a campaign that ran across bus stops. It depicted a dank, dim bedroom, in which the bed&#039;s headboard was a gravestone, and a girl - presumably a sex worker - in dark shadow with the warning not to have unsafe sex unless you wanted to go to your grave.

Most gay men do not visit prostitutes/ have sexual contact with women, so the ad&#039;s pitch is entirely lost on them. Mainstream advertising is accessible only because it&#039;s placed all over, but there is a tendency to tune off when an ad does not concern oneself.

&quot;don’t homosexuals read magazines, newspapers, watch commercials etc.?&quot;

Firstly, don&#039;t be facetious; secondly, even if they read &quot;mainstream&quot; (what is mainstream? 8 days? and GQ would be esoteric?) magazines/ watch TV. Mediacorp has excised every gay sub-plot in their foreign shows, and how many times can they run that Paddy Chew story? Show me a programme that talks about health issues facing gay men frankly, and i&#039;ll say the law isn&#039;t standing in the way of education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoestring:</p>
<p>&#8220;Repealing s377A to coax homosexuals to change their attitudes and reading preferences is akin to giving in to an already spoiled brat who should be taught the proper way to behave instead.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Giving condoms to coax straight couples to prevent pregnancy is akin to giving in to wanton couples who should just abstain if they want to stop popping out kids.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sports injuries occur amongst professional S-league players at a higher incidence than they do your typical neighbourhood soccer league. Do you &#8220;give in to them&#8221; if you promote specific injury minimising training methods relevant to pro-athletes in their club&#8217;s newsletter? or is it enough to have an article on stretching tips for people who exercise published in Mind Your Body?  Would doing the former be &#8220;giving in&#8221; to &#8220;already spoiled brats&#8221; who should change their reading habits/ behaviour (because they shouldn&#8217;t be playing that much sport if they don&#8217;t want to be injured in any case)?</p>
<p>This is a simple question of relevance and effectiveness. Some time ago, there was a campaign that ran across bus stops. It depicted a dank, dim bedroom, in which the bed&#8217;s headboard was a gravestone, and a girl &#8211; presumably a sex worker &#8211; in dark shadow with the warning not to have unsafe sex unless you wanted to go to your grave.</p>
<p>Most gay men do not visit prostitutes/ have sexual contact with women, so the ad&#8217;s pitch is entirely lost on them. Mainstream advertising is accessible only because it&#8217;s placed all over, but there is a tendency to tune off when an ad does not concern oneself.</p>
<p>&#8220;don’t homosexuals read magazines, newspapers, watch commercials etc.?&#8221;</p>
<p>Firstly, don&#8217;t be facetious; secondly, even if they read &#8220;mainstream&#8221; (what is mainstream? 8 days? and GQ would be esoteric?) magazines/ watch TV. Mediacorp has excised every gay sub-plot in their foreign shows, and how many times can they run that Paddy Chew story? Show me a programme that talks about health issues facing gay men frankly, and i&#8217;ll say the law isn&#8217;t standing in the way of education.</p>
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		<title>By: WeiHan</title>
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		<dc:creator>WeiHan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoostrings,

You can save all your uncompassionate ranting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoostrings,</p>
<p>You can save all your uncompassionate ranting.</p>
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		<title>By: shoestring</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoestring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good observation Sarek_Home. I don&#039;t see how s377A prevents materials on safe sex, applicable to everyone, from being distributed to homosexuals. Unless the writer is suggesting that homosexuals will only read materials that are specifically customized for them, which begs the question - don&#039;t homosexuals read magazines, newspapers, watch commercials etc.?

Assuming that homosexuals only read customized materials, the problem isn&#039;t s377A, but perhaps the attitudes preferences of the homosexuals. The presence of absence of s377A is not relevant.

Repealing s377A to coax homosexuals to change their attitudes and reading preferences is akin to giving in to an already spoiled brat who should be taught the proper way to behave instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good observation Sarek_Home. I don&#8217;t see how s377A prevents materials on safe sex, applicable to everyone, from being distributed to homosexuals. Unless the writer is suggesting that homosexuals will only read materials that are specifically customized for them, which begs the question &#8211; don&#8217;t homosexuals read magazines, newspapers, watch commercials etc.?</p>
<p>Assuming that homosexuals only read customized materials, the problem isn&#8217;t s377A, but perhaps the attitudes preferences of the homosexuals. The presence of absence of s377A is not relevant.</p>
<p>Repealing s377A to coax homosexuals to change their attitudes and reading preferences is akin to giving in to an already spoiled brat who should be taught the proper way to behave instead.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The focus has to be different for the gay community because the ‘girlfriend/wife’ argument does not apply.&lt;/i&gt;

Simply replace this ‘girlfriend/wife’ with &quot;partner/significant other&quot; and it will work fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The focus has to be different for the gay community because the ‘girlfriend/wife’ argument does not apply.</i></p>
<p>Simply replace this ‘girlfriend/wife’ with &#8220;partner/significant other&#8221; and it will work fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to the issue of safer sex materials, it is related to the principles of marketing.

For generic matters, such as promotion of courteous behaviour or anti-littering, a single message can be used for all instances.

However, when it comes to the more private and sensitive topic of sex, sexual practices and sexual behaviours, more targeted messages need to be sent.

Just imagine, if the message is a generic one promoting the practice of safer sex through the use of condoms, most people looking at it will think that it does not affect them, and will just dismiss it.

Specially-tailored campaigns are usually more effective in these instances.  For the straight community, especially those who visit sex workers or engage in anonymous sex with multiple partners, the message can be that if they take risks, they may end up infecting their girlfriends/wives with STIs, and their future children can be affected.

For the sex workers, the message is more of advising them to empower and protect themselves.  Afterall, if they were to fall ill or get infected with STIs, their means of livelihood will be directly affected.

The focus has to be different for the gay community because the &#039;girlfriend/wife&#039; argument does not apply.  To make the message convincing, the materials have to address the dangers of unprotected oral and anal sex between.  The problem is that these are considered as acts of gross indecency under S377A of the Penal Code.

So, how does one talk about safer sex in relation to activities that are criminal in nature, and something which is not even supposed to be practised in the first place?  That is the dilemma that organisations such as AFA face when coming up with suitable campaign materials.

Hope the above helps to enlighten....

P/S:  The terminology commonly used is &#039;safer sex&#039;.  The only 100% safe sex is solo sex.  Once there is a partner involved, especially an anonymous one, there will be risks involved.  Using the various preventive measures help to make it safer, but there is no 100% guarantee of complete safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to the issue of safer sex materials, it is related to the principles of marketing.</p>
<p>For generic matters, such as promotion of courteous behaviour or anti-littering, a single message can be used for all instances.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to the more private and sensitive topic of sex, sexual practices and sexual behaviours, more targeted messages need to be sent.</p>
<p>Just imagine, if the message is a generic one promoting the practice of safer sex through the use of condoms, most people looking at it will think that it does not affect them, and will just dismiss it.</p>
<p>Specially-tailored campaigns are usually more effective in these instances.  For the straight community, especially those who visit sex workers or engage in anonymous sex with multiple partners, the message can be that if they take risks, they may end up infecting their girlfriends/wives with STIs, and their future children can be affected.</p>
<p>For the sex workers, the message is more of advising them to empower and protect themselves.  Afterall, if they were to fall ill or get infected with STIs, their means of livelihood will be directly affected.</p>
<p>The focus has to be different for the gay community because the &#8216;girlfriend/wife&#8217; argument does not apply.  To make the message convincing, the materials have to address the dangers of unprotected oral and anal sex between.  The problem is that these are considered as acts of gross indecency under S377A of the Penal Code.</p>
<p>So, how does one talk about safer sex in relation to activities that are criminal in nature, and something which is not even supposed to be practised in the first place?  That is the dilemma that organisations such as AFA face when coming up with suitable campaign materials.</p>
<p>Hope the above helps to enlighten&#8230;.</p>
<p>P/S:  The terminology commonly used is &#8217;safer sex&#8217;.  The only 100% safe sex is solo sex.  Once there is a partner involved, especially an anonymous one, there will be risks involved.  Using the various preventive measures help to make it safer, but there is no 100% guarantee of complete safety.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ET,

If you are referring to this:

&lt;i&gt;In summary although the majority of HIV infections in Singapore are contracted through heterosexual sex, there is an expanding epidemic in MSM who now form 30% of newly diagnosed infections.&lt;/i&gt;

then, you should take note that the &lt;b&gt;30%&lt;/b&gt; is limited to HIV infections, not STD infections in general.

This is another issue with this paper.  If the focus is on &lt;b&gt;One of the knock on effects of 377A is that much material on safe sex ...&lt;/b&gt;, then the more accurate way to gauge the effect is to include all STD infections between heterosexual and MSM instead of limiting to HIV in the statistics argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ET,</p>
<p>If you are referring to this:</p>
<p><i>In summary although the majority of HIV infections in Singapore are contracted through heterosexual sex, there is an expanding epidemic in MSM who now form 30% of newly diagnosed infections.</i></p>
<p>then, you should take note that the <b>30%</b> is limited to HIV infections, not STD infections in general.</p>
<p>This is another issue with this paper.  If the focus is on <b>One of the knock on effects of 377A is that much material on safe sex &#8230;</b>, then the more accurate way to gauge the effect is to include all STD infections between heterosexual and MSM instead of limiting to HIV in the statistics argument.</p>
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		<title>By: ET</title>
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		<dc:creator>ET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some observations:

The paper has indeed given proof that homosexuals are far more likely to contact STDs than heterosexuals.

&quot;In 2005, MSM formed 30% of newly diagnosed infections.&quot; -&gt; This figure shows that homosexuals account for a very huge proportion of those who contact STDs.

As someone pointed out:

Why safe sex material need to be sexual orientation specific?

Is there any difference in safe oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual and homosexual?

Will safe sex materials targeting the sexual act without specific homosexual or heterosexual reference be equally effective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some observations:</p>
<p>The paper has indeed given proof that homosexuals are far more likely to contact STDs than heterosexuals.</p>
<p>&#8220;In 2005, MSM formed 30% of newly diagnosed infections.&#8221; -&gt; This figure shows that homosexuals account for a very huge proportion of those who contact STDs.</p>
<p>As someone pointed out:</p>
<p>Why safe sex material need to be sexual orientation specific?</p>
<p>Is there any difference in safe oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual and homosexual?</p>
<p>Will safe sex materials targeting the sexual act without specific homosexual or heterosexual reference be equally effective?</p>
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		<title>By: Daily SG: 29 Oct 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily SG: 29 Oct 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Numb: Blaming the victims  - Hear ye! Hear ye!: Of morals, rights and harm - The Online Citizen: NMP’s views at odds with AIDS relief research paper - Theory.isthereason: What Singapore could learn from the 377A debate… - The Kway Teow Man: On [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Numb: Blaming the victims  &#8211; Hear ye! Hear ye!: Of morals, rights and harm &#8211; The Online Citizen: NMP’s views at odds with AIDS relief research paper &#8211; Theory.isthereason: What Singapore could learn from the 377A debate… &#8211; The Kway Teow Man: On [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Zheng Xi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zheng Xi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cognitivedissonance,

This paper wasn&#039;t published in a journal at the time it came into our possession. You might want to do a medical journal database search to see if there&#039;re any updates on its publication history though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cognitivedissonance,</p>
<p>This paper wasn&#8217;t published in a journal at the time it came into our possession. You might want to do a medical journal database search to see if there&#8217;re any updates on its publication history though.</p>
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		<title>By: xpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>xpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>roy chan is also the editor of the International journal sexual health. and A/P of NUS med school</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>roy chan is also the editor of the International journal sexual health. and A/P of NUS med school</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM, this trend is evident in recent years (Figure 4).
Of the 101 MSM diagnosed with HIV infection in 2005, 4 were in their teens, 24 were between 20
to 29 years, and 44 between 30 to 39 years of age at diagnosis.&lt;/i&gt;

While figure 4 shown HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM, it also shown big increment among the 30 to 39, and 40 to 49 age groups.  Why?

I have to say that to show &quot;377A hobbles HIV prevention efforts&quot;, we have to compare infection trend between the heterosexual group and the MSM group.  The report need to show something like &quot;&lt;i&gt;HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM&quot; but not in younger active heterosexual people.

However, we know younger heterosexual active individuals get STD also:

http://www.singaporeangle.com/2006/12/premarital-sex-whose-burden.html

&lt;/i&gt;&lt;i&gt;According to figures from a Straits Times dated 12 November 2005, in the 5 years prior to 2005, there was a yearly average of 1,500 teenage abortions, 840 teenage mothers and more than 600 teens who contracted sexually transmitted infections. A report (.pdf) by the Ministry of Community, Youth and Sports also concluded that teenage sexuality is an area of concern.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The Queensland AIDS Council went further, saying that the attitude towards homosexuality severely blunted the response to the AIDS crisis there:

“If there had been State government support for education and behavioral change programmes, it would not be unreasonable to claim that 25 percent of the cases of Aids woudn’t have occurred.” The law was finally struck down in 1990. &lt;/i&gt;

Again, there need a contrast of statistics between heterosexual and homosexual groups to justify the &lt;b&gt;severely blunted the response to the AIDS crisis&lt;/b&gt; claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM, this trend is evident in recent years (Figure 4).<br />
Of the 101 MSM diagnosed with HIV infection in 2005, 4 were in their teens, 24 were between 20<br />
to 29 years, and 44 between 30 to 39 years of age at diagnosis.</i></p>
<p>While figure 4 shown HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM, it also shown big increment among the 30 to 39, and 40 to 49 age groups.  Why?</p>
<p>I have to say that to show &#8220;377A hobbles HIV prevention efforts&#8221;, we have to compare infection trend between the heterosexual group and the MSM group.  The report need to show something like &#8220;<i>HIV infection is being diagnosed in younger MSM&#8221; but not in younger active heterosexual people.</p>
<p>However, we know younger heterosexual active individuals get STD also:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.singaporeangle.com/2006/12/premarital-sex-whose-burden.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.singaporeangle.com/2006/12/premarital-sex-whose-burden.html</a></p>
<p></i><i>According to figures from a Straits Times dated 12 November 2005, in the 5 years prior to 2005, there was a yearly average of 1,500 teenage abortions, 840 teenage mothers and more than 600 teens who contracted sexually transmitted infections. A report (.pdf) by the Ministry of Community, Youth and Sports also concluded that teenage sexuality is an area of concern.</i></p>
<p><i>The Queensland AIDS Council went further, saying that the attitude towards homosexuality severely blunted the response to the AIDS crisis there:</p>
<p>“If there had been State government support for education and behavioral change programmes, it would not be unreasonable to claim that 25 percent of the cases of Aids woudn’t have occurred.” The law was finally struck down in 1990. </i></p>
<p>Again, there need a contrast of statistics between heterosexual and homosexual groups to justify the <b>severely blunted the response to the AIDS crisis</b> claim.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It is clear that a law that requires people to acknowledge they have sex which is illegal before receiving treatment does not help the cause of HIV prevention.&lt;/i&gt;

While 377A makes homosexual acts illegal, I have to ask what is this &lt;b&gt;&quot;acknowledge they have sex which is illegal before receiving treatment&quot;&lt;/b&gt; means?  Is there a requirement of declaring sexual orientation before treatment is administrated?  Are people fear of &quot;acknowledge they have sex which is illegal&quot; even it is a knowledge within the confine of doctor-patient relationship?

&lt;i&gt;The deterent effect of the law is not one of disease prevention, but in preventing a man from saying “I had sex with another man”, hence incriminating himself. This is despite the fact that this candour is the surest way of ensuring proper, targeted education for at-risk individuals.&lt;/i&gt;

Is there any case where &lt;i&gt;a man from saying “I had sex with another man”, hence incriminating himself&lt;/i&gt; and such individuals get charged?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It is clear that a law that requires people to acknowledge they have sex which is illegal before receiving treatment does not help the cause of HIV prevention.</i></p>
<p>While 377A makes homosexual acts illegal, I have to ask what is this <b>&#8220;acknowledge they have sex which is illegal before receiving treatment&#8221;</b> means?  Is there a requirement of declaring sexual orientation before treatment is administrated?  Are people fear of &#8220;acknowledge they have sex which is illegal&#8221; even it is a knowledge within the confine of doctor-patient relationship?</p>
<p><i>The deterent effect of the law is not one of disease prevention, but in preventing a man from saying “I had sex with another man”, hence incriminating himself. This is despite the fact that this candour is the surest way of ensuring proper, targeted education for at-risk individuals.</i></p>
<p>Is there any case where <i>a man from saying “I had sex with another man”, hence incriminating himself</i> and such individuals get charged?</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; Comment on NMP’s views at odds with AIDS relief research paper by &#8230;&#160;by&#160;medTRIALS.info</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#160; Comment on NMP’s views at odds with AIDS relief research paper by &#8230;&#160;by&#160;medTRIALS.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so its homosexual population is also 50% more. Is this assumption factual? &#8230;Original post by sarek_home delivered by Medtrials and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] so its homosexual population is also 50% more. Is this assumption factual? &#8230;Original post by sarek_home delivered by Medtrials and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 04:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One of the knock on effects of 377A is that much material on safe sex between homosexuals has been banned because of its homosexual content.&lt;/i&gt;

The questions are:
Why safe sex material need to be sexual orientation specific?
Is there any difference in safe oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual and homosexual?
Will safe sex materials targeting the sexual act without specific regarding homosexual or heterosexual reference equally effective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One of the knock on effects of 377A is that much material on safe sex between homosexuals has been banned because of its homosexual content.</i></p>
<p>The questions are:<br />
Why safe sex material need to be sexual orientation specific?<br />
Is there any difference in safe oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual and homosexual?<br />
Will safe sex materials targeting the sexual act without specific regarding homosexual or heterosexual reference equally effective?</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is from A/P Chan&#039;s paper:

&lt;i&gt;The epidemiology of HIV infection in HK SAR closely resembles that of Singapore in a number
of ways. The cumulative number of HIV/AIDS at the end of 2005 was 2825 (Singapore 2852).
The male to female ratio of infections in 2005 was 4:1 (Singapore 9:1); MSM formed 37% of
infections in 2005 (Singapore 30%).
Hong Kong has over 50% more people than Singapore, however it has the same number of
reported HIV infections than Singapore, i.e. our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s.&lt;/i&gt;

The &lt;b&gt;our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s&lt;/b&gt; seems to be based on the assumption that &lt;b&gt;Hong Kong has over 50% more people than Singapore&lt;/b&gt; so its homosexual population is also 50% more.  Is this assumption factual?
It appears the paper wants to associate this &lt;b&gt;our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s&lt;/b&gt; claim with the policy used in HIV prevention efforts in MSM in Hong Kong to justify the argument of repealing 377A.
How do we explain that while the MSM infection figures are close: &lt;b&gt;MSM formed 37% of infections in 2005 (Singapore 30%)&lt;/b&gt; yet there is big differences in male to female ratio of infections: &lt;b&gt;2005 was 4:1 (Singapore 9:1&gt;&lt;/b&gt;?
It would appear more Singapore heterosexual men are infected? Why? Drug usage? Sex tour to neighbouring countries? Wild unprotected sexual lifestyle among Singaporeans?
We all know that HIV problem is not a &quot;homosexual only&quot; problem.  The above questions raised factor in the consideration of the sexual behaviors of the HIV infected groups in both Hong Kong and Singapore which this paper omitted to provide proper breakdown.
Hence, there is no reason to accept any suggestion that the &quot;policy used in HIV prevention efforts in MSM in Hong Kong&quot; helped to reduce HIV problem in HK by half as the &lt;b&gt;our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s&lt;/b&gt; implied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is from A/P Chan&#8217;s paper:</p>
<p><i>The epidemiology of HIV infection in HK SAR closely resembles that of Singapore in a number<br />
of ways. The cumulative number of HIV/AIDS at the end of 2005 was 2825 (Singapore 2852).<br />
The male to female ratio of infections in 2005 was 4:1 (Singapore 9:1); MSM formed 37% of<br />
infections in 2005 (Singapore 30%).<br />
Hong Kong has over 50% more people than Singapore, however it has the same number of<br />
reported HIV infections than Singapore, i.e. our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s.</i></p>
<p>The <b>our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s</b> seems to be based on the assumption that <b>Hong Kong has over 50% more people than Singapore</b> so its homosexual population is also 50% more.  Is this assumption factual?<br />
It appears the paper wants to associate this <b>our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s</b> claim with the policy used in HIV prevention efforts in MSM in Hong Kong to justify the argument of repealing 377A.<br />
How do we explain that while the MSM infection figures are close: <b>MSM formed 37% of infections in 2005 (Singapore 30%)</b> yet there is big differences in male to female ratio of infections: <b>2005 was 4:1 (Singapore 9:1&gt;</b>?<br />
It would appear more Singapore heterosexual men are infected? Why? Drug usage? Sex tour to neighbouring countries? Wild unprotected sexual lifestyle among Singaporeans?<br />
We all know that HIV problem is not a &#8220;homosexual only&#8221; problem.  The above questions raised factor in the consideration of the sexual behaviors of the HIV infected groups in both Hong Kong and Singapore which this paper omitted to provide proper breakdown.<br />
Hence, there is no reason to accept any suggestion that the &#8220;policy used in HIV prevention efforts in MSM in Hong Kong&#8221; helped to reduce HIV problem in HK by half as the <b>our HIV problem is 50% bigger than Hong Kong’s</b> implied.</p>
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		<title>By: cognitivedissonance</title>
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		<dc:creator>cognitivedissonance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys for this article. If I may ask, what is the citation for the paper?  Am thinking of quoting this and Lynette Chua&#039;s paper as substantiation in argument. Further thanks in advance! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys for this article. If I may ask, what is the citation for the paper?  Am thinking of quoting this and Lynette Chua&#8217;s paper as substantiation in argument. Further thanks in advance! :-)</p>
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