Comments on: President Star Charity – where’s the missing $840,000? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/ Singapore's #1 Socio-Political Site Thu, 24 May 2012 15:26:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Zaro http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-189042 Zaro Sun, 17 Apr 2011 06:54:36 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-189042 They make use of the needy and disabled to put on a show just to get donations. That's PITY MONEY for you. If it's such a "star" charity, then make all the local celebrities perform with no pay and the President donate his pay for the month. They make use of the needy and disabled to put on a show just to get donations.
That’s PITY MONEY for you.
If it’s such a “star” charity, then make all the local celebrities perform with no pay and the President donate his pay for the month.

]]> By: Bobby Tan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-176338 Bobby Tan Tue, 08 Feb 2011 19:07:58 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-176338 If the $840,000.00 was spent "producing" the President Charity and only $567,000.00 was collected from the Public We should stop this money losing charity show.... We should excuse the President from this exhaustive and onerouse task...let him earn his S$3.8million with less effort. If the $840,000.00 was spent “producing” the President Charity and only $567,000.00 was collected from the Public We should stop this money losing charity show….

We should excuse the President from this exhaustive and onerouse task…let him earn his S$3.8million with less effort.

]]> By: Rev.Rogers kasole http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-173207 Rev.Rogers kasole Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:29:14 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-173207 Dear brothers and sister,i thanks God for this site and i just want to request any body who can donate to our orphanage home right now we are facing alot of challenges and we really need finacial assitance due to the growing number of children.diversitycfu@gmail.com Dear brothers and sister,i thanks God for this site and i just want to request any body who can donate to our orphanage home right now we are facing alot of challenges and we really need finacial assitance due to the growing number of children.diversitycfu@gmail.com

]]> By: Just Singaporean http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-165056 Just Singaporean Tue, 19 Oct 2010 04:44:29 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-165056 It is always good to see charitable act and praise the existence of such a society. The only problem is when the "heads" of the organizations making a fool of the public and using the funds for the their own causes instead of helping people who genuinely need the money. The NKF saga IS NOT ALONE. What about the BUDDHIST CHIEF who walked out a free man from jail like he is a hero? And what happened to the other religious chiefs "pending investigations"? Singaporeans are simply tired of the saga, one after another. The government must make a firm stand about making sure organizations do not abuse public funds and prosecute severely the people invovled. If our very own respectable, the late Mdm Kwa can be frugal with herself despite her capabilities and fortune, why does a man working for the needy need a luxurious toilet with a golden tap? Or a man in saffron robes need to survive with several credit cards? The leaders of our country need not contribute their salaries to the charities, they must instead work hard with the tax payers money and make those people PAY HARD AND PAY THROUGH THEIR NOSES for betraying the trust of their fellow countrymen with a big heart for the poor. It is always good to see charitable act and praise the existence of such a society. The only problem is when the “heads” of the organizations making a fool of the public and using the funds for the their own causes instead of helping people who genuinely need the money. The NKF saga IS NOT ALONE. What about the BUDDHIST CHIEF who walked out a free man from jail like he is a hero? And what happened to the other religious chiefs “pending investigations”? Singaporeans are simply tired of the saga, one after another. The government must make a firm stand about making sure organizations do not abuse public funds and prosecute severely the people invovled. If our very own respectable, the late Mdm Kwa can be frugal with herself despite her capabilities and fortune, why does a man working for the needy need a luxurious toilet with a golden tap? Or a man in saffron robes need to survive with several credit cards? The leaders of our country need not contribute their salaries to the charities, they must instead work hard with the tax payers money and make those people PAY HARD AND PAY THROUGH THEIR NOSES for betraying the trust of their fellow countrymen with a big heart for the poor.

]]> By: sho http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-164442 sho Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:56:25 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-164442 the exhuastion of sincere individual donors have pushed organizations out there to hire "sales force", tauting around MRT stations, agressively approached passerbys to donate to the heart and cancer fountation. Initially i thought these group of "sales forces" were non-profitable volunteers. However, i have heard from friends that these people were hired to push "charity sales", commission were paid when they hit a certain quartile. Why there is such a channel for donation? When has charity became so commercial with a group of sales hungry people disturbing the passerbys during rush and lunch hours? Is there a need to commercialise charity work? Why not the salary and commission paid to these sales force be donated instead? the exhuastion of sincere individual donors have pushed organizations out there to hire “sales force”, tauting around MRT stations, agressively approached passerbys to donate to the heart and cancer fountation. Initially i thought these group of “sales forces” were non-profitable volunteers. However, i have heard from friends that these people were hired to push “charity sales”, commission were paid when they hit a certain quartile. Why there is such a channel for donation? When has charity became so commercial with a group of sales hungry people disturbing the passerbys during rush and lunch hours? Is there a need to commercialise charity work? Why not the salary and commission paid to these sales force be donated instead?

]]> By: phillip tan http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-164395 phillip tan Tue, 12 Oct 2010 04:54:18 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-164395 No more donate to all this so call "Charity" after the NKF issue... Why in Singapore all this "Stupid Charity" must depend on citizens? What is our Govt. doing?? If any person start up a "Company", asking donation from public... What ever amount$$ donated, the company will deduct the expenser (ect.. cars, high salary ..) then the balance of the $$$ given out for charity... Can we do that?? No more donate to all this so call “Charity” after the NKF issue…
Why in Singapore all this “Stupid Charity” must depend on citizens?
What is our Govt. doing??
If any person start up a “Company”, asking donation from public…
What ever amount$$ donated, the company
will deduct the expenser (ect.. cars, high salary ..)
then the balance of the $$$ given out for charity… Can we do that??

]]> By: Vince L K Y http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-164386 Vince L K Y Tue, 12 Oct 2010 03:58:34 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-164386 The President Star Charity show should begin each year with the President and all Cabinet Ministers donating one month of their salary as an example, before asking Singaporeans to give generously, comparing the vast difference between the ordinary Singaporean's salary as against the Ministers.Always do good to your fellowmen. God Bless. The President Star Charity show should begin each year with the President and all Cabinet Ministers donating one month of their salary as an example, before asking Singaporeans to give generously, comparing the vast difference between the ordinary Singaporean’s salary as against the Ministers.Always do good to your fellowmen.
God Bless.

]]> By: Seow http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-110024 Seow Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:15:24 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-110024 "$6.3 million. So, why is the total donated amount only $5.46 million, which is $840,000 short?" If this $840k is the costs of raising funds and that TV show only raised $567k from the public; its an utter waste of donation funds. Mr. Lippo can just donate $935k to charity and spend $65k on a two page color spread on ST saying that he has donated. With the cases like the NKF saga and Renci; I find it hard to believe that the donation funds will find its way into the hands of the needy. “$6.3 million. So, why is the total donated amount only $5.46 million, which is $840,000 short?”

If this $840k is the costs of raising funds and that TV show only raised $567k from the public; its an utter waste of donation funds. Mr. Lippo can just donate $935k to charity and spend $65k on a two page color spread on ST saying that he has donated.

With the cases like the NKF saga and Renci; I find it hard to believe that the donation funds will find its way into the hands of the needy.

]]> By: doctorwho http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-110019 doctorwho Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:40:50 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-110019 i have never heard of our so called president, standing up for rights and welfare of the average citizens. We might as well put a statue at istana with the label "president". No one would notice the differences. As for clarity, after NKF drama, the general public have lost faith in the clarity organisations and gov. These days you get approach by folks who ask you to donate, and i think they earn some commission out of it. Isn't it sick! Clarity is about donating to the needy, without expecting rewards. It is from the heart. i have never heard of our so called president, standing up for rights and welfare of the average citizens. We might as well put a statue at istana with the label “president”. No one would notice the differences.

As for clarity, after NKF drama, the general public have lost faith in the clarity organisations and gov. These days you get approach by folks who ask you to donate, and i think they earn some commission out of it. Isn’t it sick!

Clarity is about donating to the needy, without expecting rewards. It is from the heart.

]]> By: qlite http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-110012 qlite Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:59:18 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-110012 i caught 2009's charity, still wondering, is the amount S$6million+ we see on the top left hand screen, really go to charity? or is there a split btwn, the media, the authorities and the necessities? or 100% of the amount truely channeled directly to 30 over charity organisations? i caught 2009′s charity, still wondering, is the amount S$6million+ we see on the top left hand screen, really go to charity? or is there a split btwn, the media, the authorities and the necessities? or 100% of the amount truely channeled directly to 30 over charity organisations?

]]> By: xtrocious http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-28013 xtrocious Tue, 28 Oct 2008 03:24:30 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-28013 Will probably be glossed over as another "honest mistake" yada yada yada Accountability and corporate governance have never been one of the stronger suites here...sigh Will probably be glossed over as another “honest mistake” yada yada yada

Accountability and corporate governance have never been one of the stronger suites here…sigh

]]> By: oh man http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2817 oh man Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:02:54 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2817 I just realised we have to be thankful to Ho Ching. After Forbes put her on the most powerful list, only then did we know the size of our reserves. She did something that no president could do in their lifetime - reveal the size of our reserves. Hail Mrs Lee! Hail Ho!! I just realised we have to be thankful to Ho Ching. After Forbes put her on the most powerful list, only then did we know the size of our reserves. She did something that no president could do in their lifetime – reveal the size of our reserves. Hail Mrs Lee! Hail Ho!!

]]> By: Daniel http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2822 Daniel Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:09:58 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2822 "Yes men / women - That goes for the 80 PAP MPs who voted to increase the withdrawal age of CPF from 62 to 67 - regardless of Gan Kim Yong indication that only a small percentage of those over 62 will find jobs in future….what kind of planning is that? As far as I am concerned, the withdrawal age + annuity should be sent for further studies before it is implemented - not just the annuity alone." The answer is because the old man say so and make the final say and the rest of pappies will just agreed in order to secure their luxury pay. They rather take your money and leave you with nothing now , than give you the money and leave them with nothing. “Yes men / women – That goes for the 80 PAP MPs who voted to increase the withdrawal age of CPF from 62 to 67 – regardless of Gan Kim Yong indication that only a small percentage of those over 62 will find jobs in future….what kind of planning is that? As far as I am concerned, the withdrawal age + annuity should be sent for further studies before it is implemented – not just the annuity alone.”

The answer is because the old man say so and make the final say and the rest of pappies will just agreed in order to secure their luxury pay.

They rather take your money and leave you with nothing now , than give you the money and leave them with nothing.

]]> By: oh man http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2819 oh man Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:58:40 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2819 To Singaporeboleh sorry - did the president donate? Donch you remember that after PM Lee mentioned he will donate his pay rise, Dr Bala said it is a private thing for each individual minister - and they should not publicise this at all? Anyway, after the Ong Teng Cheong fiasco, the govt has decided to employ only YES MEN to the post of the Presidency. What choice do they have, Seriously.... Did the President say anything to the poor living on $290 per month.....nothing. Yes men / women - That goes for the 80 PAP MPs who voted to increase the withdrawal age of CPF from 62 to 67 - regardless of Gan Kim Yong indication that only a small percentage of those over 62 will find jobs in future....what kind of planning is that? As far as I am concerned, the withdrawal age + annuity should be sent for further studies before it is implemented - not just the annuity alone. To Singaporeboleh sorry – did the president donate? Donch you remember that after PM Lee mentioned he will donate his pay rise, Dr Bala said it is a private thing for each individual minister – and they should not publicise this at all?
Anyway, after the Ong Teng Cheong fiasco, the govt has decided to employ only YES MEN to the post of the Presidency. What choice do they have, Seriously…. Did the President say anything to the poor living on $290 per month…..nothing.
Yes men / women – That goes for the 80 PAP MPs who voted to increase the withdrawal age of CPF from 62 to 67 – regardless of Gan Kim Yong indication that only a small percentage of those over 62 will find jobs in future….what kind of planning is that? As far as I am concerned, the withdrawal age + annuity should be sent for further studies before it is implemented – not just the annuity alone.

]]> By: singaporeboleh http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2820 singaporeboleh Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:43:47 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2820 Did the president himself donate to the President Charity? Did the president himself donate to the President Charity?

]]> By: David http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2821 David Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:24:27 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2821 Andrew, it is known fact that PAP employed ministers and leaders that are essentially YES-MAN. One of example is just our president which I consider a joke. I agree with what you say about president telling us how much reserves we have. On top of that, we should also make it mandatory for president, PM, MM, MP, etc every year to justify why they deserve to hold their post and salary. Perhaps, Andrew, you want to publish the role of president, PM, MM, in here. Doing so will seriously shame these leaders into doing a proper job rather than just simply fly by and pass all the cost and expense to citizen of Singapore. Seriously, our government need a overhaul because these leaders have taken things for granted and not worthy of their salary. Other make and deserve millions from the risk and sweat they taken, our gahmen just simply get millions by default with no justification at all. Whenever people ask why the leaders deserve their salary, their answer is always about that they create stability and peace. No wonder we never find another Sim Wong Hong, nobel winner, etc in Singapore and we keep marginalised by foreigner and local alike because these leaders doesn't think out of the box. We deserve a better and exciting society, not one that is dull and about money. Andrew,
it is known fact that PAP employed ministers and leaders that are essentially YES-MAN. One of example is just our president which I consider a joke. I agree with what you say about president telling us how much reserves we have. On top of that, we should also make it mandatory for president, PM, MM, MP, etc every year to justify why they deserve to hold their post and salary. Perhaps, Andrew, you want to publish the role of president, PM, MM, in here.
Doing so will seriously shame these leaders into doing a proper job rather than just simply fly by and pass all the cost and expense to citizen of Singapore.
Seriously, our government need a overhaul because these leaders have taken things for granted and not worthy of their salary.

Other make and deserve millions from the risk and sweat they taken, our gahmen just simply get millions by default with no justification at all.

Whenever people ask why the leaders deserve their salary, their answer is always about that they create stability and peace. No wonder we never find another Sim Wong Hong, nobel winner, etc in Singapore and we keep marginalised by foreigner and local alike because these leaders doesn’t think out of the box. We deserve a better and exciting society, not one that is dull and about money.

]]> By: macabresg http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2815 macabresg Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:01:45 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2815 Andrew, the best president we have would be Mr Ong Teng Cheong who dared to question the government on the reserves that we actually have. Mr Ong was also the one who initiated the MRT project wasn't he? Andrew, the best president we have would be Mr Ong Teng Cheong who dared to question the government on the reserves that we actually have. Mr Ong was also the one who initiated the MRT project wasn’t he?

]]> By: Andrew Loh http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2816 Andrew Loh Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:27:57 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2816 David, It might be a good idea for the president to give a "State of the Reserves" address every year to let Singaporeans know what the govt is doing with our money. After all, he is given the so-called second key to safeguard our money, right? Thus, it is only right that he gives an account of it every year to the people - instead of attending one charity event after another. Can anyone remember this president doing anything substantial since coming into office some 8 years ago? David,

It might be a good idea for the president to give a “State of the Reserves” address every year to let Singaporeans know what the govt is doing with our money.

After all, he is given the so-called second key to safeguard our money, right?

Thus, it is only right that he gives an account of it every year to the people – instead of attending one charity event after another.

Can anyone remember this president doing anything substantial since coming into office some 8 years ago?

]]> By: David http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2814 David Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:53:03 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2814 I suggest we donate the president himself to his own charity. It's time for the president to make himself useful after all these years of just being a ridiculously expensive puppet-play. The president should exercised his moral authority and conscience by committing and giving his life for charity cause, which means the president live a pauper life to understand the suffering of the people. I suggest we donate the president himself to his own charity. It’s time for the president to make himself useful after all these years of just being a ridiculously expensive puppet-play.

The president should exercised his moral authority and conscience by committing and giving his life for charity cause, which means the president live a pauper life to understand the suffering of the people.

]]> By: Seeking Salvation http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/comment-page-1/#comment-2818 Seeking Salvation Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:10:35 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/08/president-star-charity-%e2%80%93-where%e2%80%99s-the-missing-840000/#comment-2818 Charity starts at Home thats the familiar saying There 2 things which has issues at heart 1) The NKF issues which has seen the indian chief getting away after so much damage he has done 2) The old geezers including the fat gardener in istana who should be paying more to charity till to date they seems to be feeding their face more than giving to the poor (that is poor karma for them) Charity starts at Home thats the familiar saying
There 2 things which has issues at heart

1) The NKF issues which has seen the indian chief getting away
after so much damage he has done

2) The old geezers including the fat gardener in istana who should be paying more to charity till to date they seems to be feeding their face more than giving to the poor (that is poor karma for them)

]]>