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		<title>By: Public Arrests and Political Obligation in Singapore &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2889</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Arrests and Political Obligation in Singapore &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. 4 SDP members arrested outside Istana, The Online Citizen, 8 October 2007 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: noone</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2832</link>
		<dc:creator>noone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/10/20071019-11.html#

Bush expresses thanks to Singapore.

See Singapore is right.

Maybe.</description>
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<p>Bush expresses thanks to Singapore.</p>
<p>See Singapore is right.</p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
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		<title>By: FeedMeToTheFish</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2853</link>
		<dc:creator>FeedMeToTheFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not me, who?
If not now, when?

As much as the Chee siblings and SDP has been portrayed as stupid irresponsible trouble-makers to Singapore, they have done their part in creating more active citizens. Their action at the Burma Embassy and the Istana speaks volume of their courage in going against the grain of the rulers: &quot;Either you are with me, or you must be stupid!&quot;

Though there are rumours going around that CSJ may have been planted by PAP to do a good-cop-bad-cop charade, I&#039;d like to think that CSJ is above that. To go in and out of jail with family, wife and kids missing you is too much a price to pay.

I think freedom is another word for having nothing left to lose. He may have reached the stage of freedom from fear. To be pushed into a corner, to be called a cheat, a liar and to be continuously run down is not a comfortable place to be.  With the responses to his actions, I&#039;m not surprised that the fear factor has migrated to the other side. In fact, CSJ is awakening more people to the sophisticated ways that the ruling party has been controlling our lives - CPIB, NS, CPF, HDB and what-have-you!

His latest arrest is another milestone in showing the double standard that is prevalent in Singapore. Fortunately, with the help of blogsphere, active Singaporeans, in their own little way, can and will &quot;build a democratic society based on justice and equality.&quot;

To &quot;My CPF&quot;, I&#039;d say, &quot;Yes, they shifted the goalposts too many times, and I wish I had all my savings at 55 too! Now I&#039;m writing in protest of the Compulsory Annuity and further delay of retirement payout. I resent the way they consume my childrens&#039; CPF through Compulsory Annuity.

FeedMeToTheFish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not me, who?<br />
If not now, when?</p>
<p>As much as the Chee siblings and SDP has been portrayed as stupid irresponsible trouble-makers to Singapore, they have done their part in creating more active citizens. Their action at the Burma Embassy and the Istana speaks volume of their courage in going against the grain of the rulers: &#8220;Either you are with me, or you must be stupid!&#8221;</p>
<p>Though there are rumours going around that CSJ may have been planted by PAP to do a good-cop-bad-cop charade, I&#8217;d like to think that CSJ is above that. To go in and out of jail with family, wife and kids missing you is too much a price to pay.</p>
<p>I think freedom is another word for having nothing left to lose. He may have reached the stage of freedom from fear. To be pushed into a corner, to be called a cheat, a liar and to be continuously run down is not a comfortable place to be.  With the responses to his actions, I&#8217;m not surprised that the fear factor has migrated to the other side. In fact, CSJ is awakening more people to the sophisticated ways that the ruling party has been controlling our lives &#8211; CPIB, NS, CPF, HDB and what-have-you!</p>
<p>His latest arrest is another milestone in showing the double standard that is prevalent in Singapore. Fortunately, with the help of blogsphere, active Singaporeans, in their own little way, can and will &#8220;build a democratic society based on justice and equality.&#8221;</p>
<p>To &#8220;My CPF&#8221;, I&#8217;d say, &#8220;Yes, they shifted the goalposts too many times, and I wish I had all my savings at 55 too! Now I&#8217;m writing in protest of the Compulsory Annuity and further delay of retirement payout. I resent the way they consume my childrens&#8217; CPF through Compulsory Annuity.</p>
<p>FeedMeToTheFish</p>
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		<title>By: noone</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2834</link>
		<dc:creator>noone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2007 08:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: My CPF</title>
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		<dc:creator>My CPF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch this frightful documentary. I recall what LKY said about how he would shoot to maintain order in Tiananmen - now we know why the junta must always be there - like the PAP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UqQaizM15Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2goTVC5g3M&amp;mode=user&amp;search=

I hope that PAP realises the limits they can play with our CPF, and pray for a change internally, within the 80 PAP members. If and when that happens, then I agree with LKY that a regime change is not necessary, but for that to happen, PAP has to change within. For one, I would like to see a repeal of the recently endorsed law - that OUR CPF monies be released to us at 55 years od as was told to us 40 years ago - not 62, not 65 nor 67. It is not for Ho Ching to plunder in the latest sexy stocks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch this frightful documentary. I recall what LKY said about how he would shoot to maintain order in Tiananmen &#8211; now we know why the junta must always be there &#8211; like the PAP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UqQaizM15Q" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UqQaizM15Q</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2goTVC5g3M&amp;mode=user&amp;search=" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2goTVC5g3M&amp;mode=user&amp;search=</a></p>
<p>I hope that PAP realises the limits they can play with our CPF, and pray for a change internally, within the 80 PAP members. If and when that happens, then I agree with LKY that a regime change is not necessary, but for that to happen, PAP has to change within. For one, I would like to see a repeal of the recently endorsed law &#8211; that OUR CPF monies be released to us at 55 years od as was told to us 40 years ago &#8211; not 62, not 65 nor 67. It is not for Ho Ching to plunder in the latest sexy stocks.</p>
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		<title>By: familyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>familyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true that the police are just carrying out their duties enshrined in the singapore laws. Thus what needs to be done is to try and repeal the laws that prevent us from holding a meaningful peaceful protest, like the ones done by the Monks in Burma, Thais in Bangkok to prevent the Tharksin corruption, Philipinoes that brought down Marcos and how the Indonesians peacefully removed Suharto. (we are embarrassing by this yardstick)
The Burmese have said it is an internal issue and kind of poo-pooed the UN security council statements. This is so typically Singapore Govt style where we say that only Singaporeans can comment on our internal policies. THIS IS SCARY -wonder who they learn that from...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true that the police are just carrying out their duties enshrined in the singapore laws. Thus what needs to be done is to try and repeal the laws that prevent us from holding a meaningful peaceful protest, like the ones done by the Monks in Burma, Thais in Bangkok to prevent the Tharksin corruption, Philipinoes that brought down Marcos and how the Indonesians peacefully removed Suharto. (we are embarrassing by this yardstick)<br />
The Burmese have said it is an internal issue and kind of poo-pooed the UN security council statements. This is so typically Singapore Govt style where we say that only Singaporeans can comment on our internal policies. THIS IS SCARY -wonder who they learn that from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: blacktshirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>blacktshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if SDP&#039;s intentions were to provide the Burmese with an outlet. do they have to resort to sensationalism?

See http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleburmaprotest23.html

The photos were actually from Insurgency in Southern Thailand Pattani. See the originals here http://www.zombietime.com/thai_jihad_photos/

Sheer sensationalism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if SDP&#8217;s intentions were to provide the Burmese with an outlet. do they have to resort to sensationalism?</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleburmaprotest23.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.singaporedemocrat.org/articleburmaprotest23.html</a></p>
<p>The photos were actually from Insurgency in Southern Thailand Pattani. See the originals here <a href="http://www.zombietime.com/thai_jihad_photos/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zombietime.com/thai_jihad_photos/</a></p>
<p>Sheer sensationalism</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2855</link>
		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mizra,

Are you suggesting the Burmese monks did not discuss what approach to do before they started their protest?
Are you suggesting that Dr Chee did not discuss what approach to do with his team before they started their long quest against PAP?
Are you aware of the on-going discussion of what approach to take in UN regarding the Junta?

Please read what I said in comment 45.  If you want to function in the real world, you should observe the reality.

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mizra,</p>
<p>Are you suggesting the Burmese monks did not discuss what approach to do before they started their protest?<br />
Are you suggesting that Dr Chee did not discuss what approach to do with his team before they started their long quest against PAP?<br />
Are you aware of the on-going discussion of what approach to take in UN regarding the Junta?</p>
<p>Please read what I said in comment 45.  If you want to function in the real world, you should observe the reality.</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizra</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-2/#comment-2857</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarek_home

If there is a consensus that the govt is wrong - the next step in not what approach should be taken. The next step should be to tell them it is wrong!!! and since u highlighted that there can be no disagreement, its not a grey area where there may be a need for discussion!!!! its so clear cut!!! to re-iterate the next step must be to condemn these actions, the only way that relationships can be improved is if the parties accept their mistakes or at least stop committing more!!so please free the doctor....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarek_home</p>
<p>If there is a consensus that the govt is wrong &#8211; the next step in not what approach should be taken. The next step should be to tell them it is wrong!!! and since u highlighted that there can be no disagreement, its not a grey area where there may be a need for discussion!!!! its so clear cut!!! to re-iterate the next step must be to condemn these actions, the only way that relationships can be improved is if the parties accept their mistakes or at least stop committing more!!so please free the doctor&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2859</link>
		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;i dont understand.. y r we talking ab Dr Chee’s methods of engaging the govt???&lt;/i&gt;

Because we have no disagreement regarding this &lt;i&gt;its a matter of right and wrong!!!&lt;/i&gt; part, so we move on to the next step - the approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>i dont understand.. y r we talking ab Dr Chee’s methods of engaging the govt???</i></p>
<p>Because we have no disagreement regarding this <i>its a matter of right and wrong!!!</i> part, so we move on to the next step &#8211; the approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Mizra</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2869</link>
		<dc:creator>Mizra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont understand.. y r we talking ab Dr Chee&#039;s methods of engaging the govt??? its a matter of right and wrong!!! did anyone question if the burmese monks used the best tactics to engage the junta!!! this is not about approach or tactics or strategy!!! this is about the same freedom that we r so strongly fighting for the burmese but ignoring for our own citizens!!!! Like wat shamil, said y the double standards!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont understand.. y r we talking ab Dr Chee&#8217;s methods of engaging the govt??? its a matter of right and wrong!!! did anyone question if the burmese monks used the best tactics to engage the junta!!! this is not about approach or tactics or strategy!!! this is about the same freedom that we r so strongly fighting for the burmese but ignoring for our own citizens!!!! Like wat shamil, said y the double standards!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Bacts</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2864</link>
		<dc:creator>Bacts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right. It is veyr enlightening, thanks. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right. It is veyr enlightening, thanks. :)</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2847</link>
		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 04:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bacts,

Thanks for the clarification.  People who experienced long term unemployment or retired from work know of the feeling of losing their self-worth and identity.  Their work identity is a major part of their life.  When they stop working, that part of their life die with them.

You said: &quot;&lt;i&gt;really respected him for his willingness to sacrifice his life for all these.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;.  It is more appropriate to say that at certain point in time, Dr Chee had redefined his life / identity around a quest of fight against PAP.  That quest has become his life and he can only soldier on to keep himself alive.

Yes, &lt;i&gt;different approach towards our government gets different respond from them&lt;/i&gt; as I pointed out in comment entry 45.  But I am afraid such approach is too plain for the liking of Dr Chee, his group, and his supporters.  So their course is fixed, they can&#039;t and they are not willing to change their approach.

Do you really think Dr Chee wants to improve his relationship with the government?

Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bacts,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification.  People who experienced long term unemployment or retired from work know of the feeling of losing their self-worth and identity.  Their work identity is a major part of their life.  When they stop working, that part of their life die with them.</p>
<p>You said: &#8220;<i>really respected him for his willingness to sacrifice his life for all these.</i>&#8220;.  It is more appropriate to say that at certain point in time, Dr Chee had redefined his life / identity around a quest of fight against PAP.  That quest has become his life and he can only soldier on to keep himself alive.</p>
<p>Yes, <i>different approach towards our government gets different respond from them</i> as I pointed out in comment entry 45.  But I am afraid such approach is too plain for the liking of Dr Chee, his group, and his supporters.  So their course is fixed, they can&#8217;t and they are not willing to change their approach.</p>
<p>Do you really think Dr Chee wants to improve his relationship with the government?</p>
<p>Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: Bacts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bacts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To sarek_home,
October 10th, 2007 at 9:30 am

Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my comment and post. I actually wish to highlight that different approach towards our government gets different respond from them. The political world is a tough one, that&#039;s why, I admire Dr Chee for his passion and bravery, and really respected him for his willingness to sacrifice his life for all these. Thought I agree some of his views for certain thing and share his vision for the future of Singapore, but I really hope he would change his approach and improve his relationship with our government, I believe in that way, it may work better and benefit Singaporean accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To sarek_home,<br />
October 10th, 2007 at 9:30 am</p>
<p>Sorry, I wasn’t clear in my comment and post. I actually wish to highlight that different approach towards our government gets different respond from them. The political world is a tough one, that&#8217;s why, I admire Dr Chee for his passion and bravery, and really respected him for his willingness to sacrifice his life for all these. Thought I agree some of his views for certain thing and share his vision for the future of Singapore, but I really hope he would change his approach and improve his relationship with our government, I believe in that way, it may work better and benefit Singaporean accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Let’s all stop talking and protest outside the Istana, like .....&lt;/i&gt;

Something for everyone to think about:

The homosexual group arranged some activities at Botanic Garden and was stopped by the police.  As vocal and active in promoting their cause as they are, they chose not to confront the police to get arrested.

Did they get the publicity they wanted?
Was it the more sensible tactic to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Let’s all stop talking and protest outside the Istana, like &#8230;..</i></p>
<p>Something for everyone to think about:</p>
<p>The homosexual group arranged some activities at Botanic Garden and was stopped by the police.  As vocal and active in promoting their cause as they are, they chose not to confront the police to get arrested.</p>
<p>Did they get the publicity they wanted?<br />
Was it the more sensible tactic to use?</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2833</link>
		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bacts,

Regarding this &lt;i&gt;Check This, two petition submitted, two outcome, SDP members had submitted petition letters to Istana before and there was no arrest.  The arrest this time round is not the result of attempting to submit the petition.  It was the result of attempting to hold a protest outside Istana.

Regards.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bacts,</p>
<p>Regarding this <i>Check This, two petition submitted, two outcome, SDP members had submitted petition letters to Istana before and there was no arrest.  The arrest this time round is not the result of attempting to submit the petition.  It was the result of attempting to hold a protest outside Istana.</p>
<p>Regards.</i></p>
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		<title>By: E Contrario &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Singapore: Burma&#8217;s Pal</title>
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		<dc:creator>E Contrario &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Singapore: Burma&#8217;s Pal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Oct 8, a small group of Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) activists handed over a memorandum to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Oct 8, a small group of Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) activists handed over a memorandum to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Afraid2</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2854</link>
		<dc:creator>Afraid2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s all stop talking and protest outside the Istana, like Dr. Chee, for our basic right to Freedom of Speech. Let&#039;s be brave and stand up for what we believe is right. Change can only happen when do something about it. We cannot let others dictate our basic freedom. When we gather peacefully in large numbers, we will change the rules that others set. After all, it is OUR country. Dr. Chee started with a gathering of 4 people. Let&#039;s show him our support by increasing that number to 10 people. Or 100. Or 1000.

On second thought...nevermind. I&#039;m afraid too. I don&#039;t want to get arrested. I&#039;m contented with my life. I&#039;ve a nice car. A nice HDB flat. It’s not as if I’m hungry with no food to eat. OK, let&#039;s continue hashing it out on the Internet instead, where nobody can see us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s all stop talking and protest outside the Istana, like Dr. Chee, for our basic right to Freedom of Speech. Let&#8217;s be brave and stand up for what we believe is right. Change can only happen when do something about it. We cannot let others dictate our basic freedom. When we gather peacefully in large numbers, we will change the rules that others set. After all, it is OUR country. Dr. Chee started with a gathering of 4 people. Let&#8217;s show him our support by increasing that number to 10 people. Or 100. Or 1000.</p>
<p>On second thought&#8230;nevermind. I&#8217;m afraid too. I don&#8217;t want to get arrested. I&#8217;m contented with my life. I&#8217;ve a nice car. A nice HDB flat. It’s not as if I’m hungry with no food to eat. OK, let&#8217;s continue hashing it out on the Internet instead, where nobody can see us.</p>
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		<title>By: shamil</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must agree with Mizra.Here we are talking sooo much about protesting aginst the Junta for not allowing peaceful protest and yet when one of our own goes down for the exact same reason we just keep quiet.And he is fighting for a right that we don&#039;t even have in Singapore.

If we hold a forum for the Burmese we should hold a forum for these Singaporeans too.they too are being harrased for trying to practice a basic human right.

Why the double standards TOC?
hold a forum for these Singaporeans for basic human rights,for the right to be free from fear.

Ok lets say that it was not Dr Chee who got arrested lets say it was a student who after attending the forum on FREE BURMA in NUS got sooo moved that he went to do what Dr Chee did and got arrested instead.Would anyone hold a campaign to free the student?
they&#039;re human too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must agree with Mizra.Here we are talking sooo much about protesting aginst the Junta for not allowing peaceful protest and yet when one of our own goes down for the exact same reason we just keep quiet.And he is fighting for a right that we don&#8217;t even have in Singapore.</p>
<p>If we hold a forum for the Burmese we should hold a forum for these Singaporeans too.they too are being harrased for trying to practice a basic human right.</p>
<p>Why the double standards TOC?<br />
hold a forum for these Singaporeans for basic human rights,for the right to be free from fear.</p>
<p>Ok lets say that it was not Dr Chee who got arrested lets say it was a student who after attending the forum on FREE BURMA in NUS got sooo moved that he went to do what Dr Chee did and got arrested instead.Would anyone hold a campaign to free the student?<br />
they&#8217;re human too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/10/toc-breaking-news-4-sdp-members-arrested-outside-istana/comment-page-1/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Double standards, double speak, double headed... welcome to Singapore.

No surprising though because our government is made up of a bunch of face loving, opposition hating daft elites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Double standards, double speak, double headed&#8230; welcome to Singapore.</p>
<p>No surprising though because our government is made up of a bunch of face loving, opposition hating daft elites.</p>
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