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	<title>Comments on: Uniquely Singapore, F1 or F9: Parliamentary debate, then self-rebuttal?</title>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Tang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a very expensive wayang.

Not only do you get not even standing room seats, these actors are CMI category.

From an artistic point of view, they should get RA - really awful, rating.

And some so old still don&#039;t retire just like some of those blase Hk actors who still talk of the Glories of the Black and White Days - which really sounds funereal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a very expensive wayang.</p>
<p>Not only do you get not even standing room seats, these actors are CMI category.</p>
<p>From an artistic point of view, they should get RA &#8211; really awful, rating.</p>
<p>And some so old still don&#8217;t retire just like some of those blase Hk actors who still talk of the Glories of the Black and White Days &#8211; which really sounds funereal.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minister George Yeo claimed in parliament that cumulative investment by Singapore in Myanmar till end 2005 was only S$742 million.

He must be wrong,and ex-trade &amp; industry minister and a President scholar,SAF scholar,it is sad that his mastery of details is relly not up to the mark!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minister George Yeo claimed in parliament that cumulative investment by Singapore in Myanmar till end 2005 was only S$742 million.</p>
<p>He must be wrong,and ex-trade &amp; industry minister and a President scholar,SAF scholar,it is sad that his mastery of details is relly not up to the mark!</p>
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		<title>By: family man</title>
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		<dc:creator>family man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feed me to the fish...

Simple answer

$$$$$ changes the essence of a man. Unless he is inspired by the Holy Spirit.

I had hoped that change will come from within the PAP, but the temptation of $11,000 is just too great, and the likelihood of being promoted to minister of state, visiting Myanmar, promotion to  minister with million $ pay - why risk it? Let us hope the NMPs will not let us down next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feed me to the fish&#8230;</p>
<p>Simple answer</p>
<p>$$$$$ changes the essence of a man. Unless he is inspired by the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>I had hoped that change will come from within the PAP, but the temptation of $11,000 is just too great, and the likelihood of being promoted to minister of state, visiting Myanmar, promotion to  minister with million $ pay &#8211; why risk it? Let us hope the NMPs will not let us down next.</p>
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		<title>By: FeedMeToTheFish</title>
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		<dc:creator>FeedMeToTheFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sze Hian,

Thanks again for highlighting another uniquely sad Singaporean episode.

With that 2 Tampines GRC MP&#039;s, I thought: Time, they are a-changing for the better.

Alas . . . another charade.

Another &#039;good-cop-bad-cop&#039; wayang.

If I lose my wealth, I lose nothing.
If I lose my health, I lose something.
If I lose my integrity, I lose everything.

Why throw it all away after such a spirited argument on what makes sense?

What does it take to change the essence of a man?

Why build it up just to let us down?

I wonder . . .

FeedMeToTheFish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sze Hian,</p>
<p>Thanks again for highlighting another uniquely sad Singaporean episode.</p>
<p>With that 2 Tampines GRC MP&#8217;s, I thought: Time, they are a-changing for the better.</p>
<p>Alas . . . another charade.</p>
<p>Another &#8216;good-cop-bad-cop&#8217; wayang.</p>
<p>If I lose my wealth, I lose nothing.<br />
If I lose my health, I lose something.<br />
If I lose my integrity, I lose everything.</p>
<p>Why throw it all away after such a spirited argument on what makes sense?</p>
<p>What does it take to change the essence of a man?</p>
<p>Why build it up just to let us down?</p>
<p>I wonder . . .</p>
<p>FeedMeToTheFish</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well,
leaving all that talk about whether they are genuine or not, this goes to show that if there is to be any &quot;check&quot;, it definitely won&#039;t come from within. And it can&#039;t. Imagine a party where eveyrthing goes...that will really be chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well,<br />
leaving all that talk about whether they are genuine or not, this goes to show that if there is to be any &#8220;check&#8221;, it definitely won&#8217;t come from within. And it can&#8217;t. Imagine a party where eveyrthing goes&#8230;that will really be chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Zheng Xi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zheng Xi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sze Hian,

Excellent article I really like this one =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sze Hian,</p>
<p>Excellent article I really like this one =)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a kangooru court at its best. When MP says something bad about the establishment, they suddenly realize it is pointless to pinpoint their very own &#039;company&#039; that pay them to work for them, and that it is better to play obedient to keep their job and privileges.

The question I have to ask everyone. If the gov parliament is running as a &#039;Singapore Inc&#039; and act as executive of Company, what is the chance of someone jeopardise his own position against the CEO (PM,MM etc) ? The salary of these &#039;executive&#039; is not less or comparable than those getting from private company.

Or rather, will you go against or complain someone, pinpoint your boss mistake if you are hired to do the work of your boss ?

The parliament is smart to realize that it is a parliament and therefore need some maverick &#039;action&#039; to make itself credible and not too much of a joke. So you have debate and debate, but in the end, a show is still a show, and the policy still carry on at the end of day. Sometimes, the show last a few months or few days.

And when thing get too personal, they shake their hand backstage and promise not to screw each other backside again. Therefore, after a maverick in parliament say something against their own &#039;company&#039;, they realize it and promise never to repeat it. Am I joking ? Look at those MP, Minister that used to be maverick but now been tamed to submission to the binding of the dark lord.

It really remind me of those professional wrestling. The guy can keep fighting each other and pretend that there is feud between them, but the script and decision is already been predetermined on who the winner. You just know it is fake because it is part of the show. You see the same thing happen in Singapore parliament because they are actually belong to one same big &#039;acting&#039; company just like wrestling company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a kangooru court at its best. When MP says something bad about the establishment, they suddenly realize it is pointless to pinpoint their very own &#8216;company&#8217; that pay them to work for them, and that it is better to play obedient to keep their job and privileges.</p>
<p>The question I have to ask everyone. If the gov parliament is running as a &#8216;Singapore Inc&#8217; and act as executive of Company, what is the chance of someone jeopardise his own position against the CEO (PM,MM etc) ? The salary of these &#8216;executive&#8217; is not less or comparable than those getting from private company.</p>
<p>Or rather, will you go against or complain someone, pinpoint your boss mistake if you are hired to do the work of your boss ?</p>
<p>The parliament is smart to realize that it is a parliament and therefore need some maverick &#8216;action&#8217; to make itself credible and not too much of a joke. So you have debate and debate, but in the end, a show is still a show, and the policy still carry on at the end of day. Sometimes, the show last a few months or few days.</p>
<p>And when thing get too personal, they shake their hand backstage and promise not to screw each other backside again. Therefore, after a maverick in parliament say something against their own &#8216;company&#8217;, they realize it and promise never to repeat it. Am I joking ? Look at those MP, Minister that used to be maverick but now been tamed to submission to the binding of the dark lord.</p>
<p>It really remind me of those professional wrestling. The guy can keep fighting each other and pretend that there is feud between them, but the script and decision is already been predetermined on who the winner. You just know it is fake because it is part of the show. You see the same thing happen in Singapore parliament because they are actually belong to one same big &#8216;acting&#8217; company just like wrestling company.</p>
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		<title>By: macabresg</title>
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		<dc:creator>macabresg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree our parliamentary debates are pretty docile. It&#039;s more like a presentation. That&#039;s why we need more thorns(opposition MPs) to jab the PAP MPs&#039; butts to make them work harder for their part-time income and for the benefit of all Singaporeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree our parliamentary debates are pretty docile. It&#8217;s more like a presentation. That&#8217;s why we need more thorns(opposition MPs) to jab the PAP MPs&#8217; butts to make them work harder for their part-time income and for the benefit of all Singaporeans.</p>
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		<title>By: My CPF</title>
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		<dc:creator>My CPF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 06:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple - refute their allegations, or they lose their seat in the next round, and the $11,000 part time income per month  :)
I also want!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple &#8211; refute their allegations, or they lose their seat in the next round, and the $11,000 part time income per month  :)<br />
I also want!</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 04:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What does it say of the Govt&#039;s credibility when their MPs are backtracking on what they have said ?
All that is said in parliament are just hot air</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it say of the Govt&#8217;s credibility when their MPs are backtracking on what they have said ?<br />
All that is said in parliament are just hot air</p>
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		<title>By: Kew Kah Fatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kew Kah Fatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They still can get scholars to do NS in parliament.
See how the BGs are given jobs, some even before retirement age of 45.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They still can get scholars to do NS in parliament.<br />
See how the BGs are given jobs, some even before retirement age of 45.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert HO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOME OF MY MASS EMAILS TO ABOUT 50 RECIPIENTS BLOCKED LIKE THIS ONE, BUT WHY?

My MSN Live Messenger Tag Lines past, today and future


&lt;em&gt;*Comments edited and most part deleted by moderator.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;**Dear Robert, we have asked you not to include your NRIC number when posting. You have refused to do that. As such, we have no choice but to disallow your comments. Until you abstain from posting your personal particulars, your comments will not be allowed to be posted.

As for the editing of this latest comment of yours, your comment is totally irrelevant to the article. You do not have to keep posting the same comments about how you saw &quot;Lee Kuan Yew rigged the elections&quot;. And your almost 100 points from your msn tag lines are completely irrelevant to the article as well.

You are under moderation from now on.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME OF MY MASS EMAILS TO ABOUT 50 RECIPIENTS BLOCKED LIKE THIS ONE, BUT WHY?</p>
<p>My MSN Live Messenger Tag Lines past, today and future</p>
<p><em>*Comments edited and most part deleted by moderator.</em></p>
<p><strong>**Dear Robert, we have asked you not to include your NRIC number when posting. You have refused to do that. As such, we have no choice but to disallow your comments. Until you abstain from posting your personal particulars, your comments will not be allowed to be posted.</p>
<p>As for the editing of this latest comment of yours, your comment is totally irrelevant to the article. You do not have to keep posting the same comments about how you saw &#8220;Lee Kuan Yew rigged the elections&#8221;. And your almost 100 points from your msn tag lines are completely irrelevant to the article as well.</p>
<p>You are under moderation from now on.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: returner</title>
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		<dc:creator>returner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 02:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either they really spoke for the people and asked to stay in line after that OR they are part of the TV script to ease the pressure from the ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either they really spoke for the people and asked to stay in line after that OR they are part of the TV script to ease the pressure from the ground.</p>
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		<title>By: truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The message sent out is loud and clear:

All PAP MP&#039;s are free to speak their mind ..... as long as it agrees with the government policies.

It&#039;s no wonder that the PAP is finding it harder and harder to persuade good men to join them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The message sent out is loud and clear:</p>
<p>All PAP MP&#8217;s are free to speak their mind &#8230;.. as long as it agrees with the government policies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s no wonder that the PAP is finding it harder and harder to persuade good men to join them.</p>
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