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	<title>Comments on: Ministerial salaries – 2nd upward revision soon</title>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-105869</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greed or total disconnect with the common citizen? If they claimed they are connected then once would say they are heartless and callous. The number of citizens falling into the poverty trap had increaded over the years. Failure to keep up payment on their HDB pigeon hole, utilities etc had increased. A gahment failure to tackle unempolyment, poverty and homelessness is a failed gahment. They are in power to manage Sinkapore both for the rich and poor.  Maybe we should ship out our poor and unemployed across the causeway as well. That way, we will not have any unempolyed in Paradise Island. Problem solved. Salary for million dollar ministers could be increaded for job well done. Greed seemed to have no limit here. Is this is what we called uniquely Sinkapore? Personally, I would prefer a more caring gahment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greed or total disconnect with the common citizen? If they claimed they are connected then once would say they are heartless and callous. The number of citizens falling into the poverty trap had increaded over the years. Failure to keep up payment on their HDB pigeon hole, utilities etc had increased. A gahment failure to tackle unempolyment, poverty and homelessness is a failed gahment. They are in power to manage Sinkapore both for the rich and poor.  Maybe we should ship out our poor and unemployed across the causeway as well. That way, we will not have any unempolyed in Paradise Island. Problem solved. Salary for million dollar ministers could be increaded for job well done. Greed seemed to have no limit here. Is this is what we called uniquely Sinkapore? Personally, I would prefer a more caring gahment.</p>
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		<title>By: Good Boy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-8841</link>
		<dc:creator>Good Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 14:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Indonesian colleague once reacted quite spontaneously when teased that their overseas kind are all very rich. 
He said &quot; I cannot carry the trillion billion ruppiahs to heaven; it is too heavy, besides they may not use currency up there, I have to think of something else to impress the Gatekeeper first&quot;.
He was trying to fend off with a light hearted joke. We all laughed as buddies would do; the message is also clear - money is not everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Indonesian colleague once reacted quite spontaneously when teased that their overseas kind are all very rich.<br />
He said &#8221; I cannot carry the trillion billion ruppiahs to heaven; it is too heavy, besides they may not use currency up there, I have to think of something else to impress the Gatekeeper first&#8221;.<br />
He was trying to fend off with a light hearted joke. We all laughed as buddies would do; the message is also clear &#8211; money is not everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Ministers are bullies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ministers are bullies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 13:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there some sort of a mafia in S&#039;pore? Understand that there is a Pay-and-Pay system here, cavalierly called the PAP smear. No wonder Singaporeans are uptight ...  maybe the Thais and Malaysians do have a better time!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there some sort of a mafia in S&#8217;pore? Understand that there is a Pay-and-Pay system here, cavalierly called the PAP smear. No wonder Singaporeans are uptight &#8230;  maybe the Thais and Malaysians do have a better time!</p>
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		<title>By: saintmoron</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-3845</link>
		<dc:creator>saintmoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2007 13:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Find happiness anywhere else if one can and leave all the sorrows behind. It is not just no money no talk here; the poor has to slog and worst of all be treated like a dog whose master gives commands non-stop.

The dog can&#039;t bark, bite for it is securely muzzled, the days ahead for the poor will be more difficult and sufferring. Jumping from highrise and into mrt track will not solve our problems; so for those who contemplate suicide, I suggest they starve to death in public and be folk heroes(heroine). But then again be reminded, the World is very big, if wanted criminals went abroad and were able to survive, why not us.

We may have difficulties changing our lives here, but maybe we can change our fates elsewhere. Many of us have seen with our own eyes during our travels abroad how poor people in so-called third(even fourth- un/underdeveloped) countries LIVING HAPPILY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find happiness anywhere else if one can and leave all the sorrows behind. It is not just no money no talk here; the poor has to slog and worst of all be treated like a dog whose master gives commands non-stop.</p>
<p>The dog can&#8217;t bark, bite for it is securely muzzled, the days ahead for the poor will be more difficult and sufferring. Jumping from highrise and into mrt track will not solve our problems; so for those who contemplate suicide, I suggest they starve to death in public and be folk heroes(heroine). But then again be reminded, the World is very big, if wanted criminals went abroad and were able to survive, why not us.</p>
<p>We may have difficulties changing our lives here, but maybe we can change our fates elsewhere. Many of us have seen with our own eyes during our travels abroad how poor people in so-called third(even fourth- un/underdeveloped) countries LIVING HAPPILY.</p>
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		<title>By: middle class</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-3844</link>
		<dc:creator>middle class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Middle class are samwitch in-between.

HDB LEVY TO STAY PERIOD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Middle class are samwitch in-between.</p>
<p>HDB LEVY TO STAY PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: middle class</title>
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		<dc:creator>middle class</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Home buyers face the levy as soon as they sell their HDB flat and buy a 2nd flat that is lower than the previous one. This is to reduce the dependancy on the subsidy provided by the gov.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Home buyers face the levy as soon as they sell their HDB flat and buy a 2nd flat that is lower than the previous one. This is to reduce the dependancy on the subsidy provided by the gov.</p>
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		<title>By: All and Sundry Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>All and Sundry Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Glory for Nation or Money?&lt;/strong&gt;

I hope the government does not attempt to break that already delicate bond with us by forcing its way through a 2nd ministerial pay hike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Glory for Nation or Money?</strong></p>
<p>I hope the government does not attempt to break that already delicate bond with us by forcing its way through a 2nd ministerial pay hike.</p>
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		<title>By: saintmoron</title>
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		<dc:creator>saintmoron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 13:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This tiny red dot will be disarranged eventually by money crazy culture and it will be soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This tiny red dot will be disarranged eventually by money crazy culture and it will be soon.</p>
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		<title>By: We are dumb</title>
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		<dc:creator>We are dumb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question to all, is whats happening because the people in power are smart or is it because we are dumb people who do not realise that democracy is people power and not pappy power. Dumb Dumb lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question to all, is whats happening because the people in power are smart or is it because we are dumb people who do not realise that democracy is people power and not pappy power. Dumb Dumb lot</p>
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		<title>By: blackshirt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-3830</link>
		<dc:creator>blackshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we are in the political arena, we want something to get our opponents into some bad reputation. This would be it.

Despite of the rising cost of living and the impending economical slowdown, they still want to have their pay increases. I say, let them have their pay increases. The net effect is to have a lot of displeasure and anger on the ground. Some will forget this episode after some time but many will not. People need to open their eyes wider and see through the greed of the government. Their kind of self-serving measures will start to shake more of the 66.6%.

Even there is no pay increase, the money will still go to cover &quot;unknown national investment losses&quot;.

&lt;b&gt;Let them have their suicides.&lt;/b&gt;  Let them lose more ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we are in the political arena, we want something to get our opponents into some bad reputation. This would be it.</p>
<p>Despite of the rising cost of living and the impending economical slowdown, they still want to have their pay increases. I say, let them have their pay increases. The net effect is to have a lot of displeasure and anger on the ground. Some will forget this episode after some time but many will not. People need to open their eyes wider and see through the greed of the government. Their kind of self-serving measures will start to shake more of the 66.6%.</p>
<p>Even there is no pay increase, the money will still go to cover &#8220;unknown national investment losses&#8221;.</p>
<p><b>Let them have their suicides.</b>  Let them lose more ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Wages At the Top &#171; Andrew: Inside &#38; Insights</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/ministerial-salaries-%e2%80%93-2nd-upward-revision-soon/comment-page-1/#comment-3839</link>
		<dc:creator>Wages At the Top &#171; Andrew: Inside &#38; Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Read related TOC article on Ministerial salaries here&gt;&gt;&gt; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read related TOC article on Ministerial salaries here&gt;&gt;&gt; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles,
Even if the economy is well-managed, do you think they deserve a raise (when in fact, they are already paying themselves so much).
what determines the economy is doing well in first well ? By coffer&#039;s own words through propagandic media ?

More good years, they say. No wonder they say more good years. They are referring to themselves !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles,<br />
Even if the economy is well-managed, do you think they deserve a raise (when in fact, they are already paying themselves so much).<br />
what determines the economy is doing well in first well ? By coffer&#8217;s own words through propagandic media ?</p>
<p>More good years, they say. No wonder they say more good years. They are referring to themselves !</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the majority of Singaporeans can and would be agreeable to a campaign for minister&#039;s wages to be cut (yes you heard me right) instead of arguing for it to be retained at same level. Our ministers are getting way too much.

Even if the economy is well-managed, do you think they deserve a raise (when in fact, they are already paying themselves so much).

The issue here henceforth, is not so much of minister&#039;s salaries pegged to economic performance but rather paying themselves too much in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the majority of Singaporeans can and would be agreeable to a campaign for minister&#8217;s wages to be cut (yes you heard me right) instead of arguing for it to be retained at same level. Our ministers are getting way too much.</p>
<p>Even if the economy is well-managed, do you think they deserve a raise (when in fact, they are already paying themselves so much).</p>
<p>The issue here henceforth, is not so much of minister&#8217;s salaries pegged to economic performance but rather paying themselves too much in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: disgruntled</title>
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		<dc:creator>disgruntled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF ! Ministers get a &lt;b&gt;norm&lt;/b&gt;&lt;b&gt; of 3 months bonus and up to 8 months if GDP grows by 10%. So if the GDP (not wages, mind you, GDP including MNCs profits) hits 8% this year, they get 6 months (pro-rata: 1 month for every percent above 5%) ? And rank-and-file civil servants are getting 2 months ?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF ! Ministers get a <b>norm</b><b> of 3 months bonus and up to 8 months if GDP grows by 10%. So if the GDP (not wages, mind you, GDP including MNCs profits) hits 8% this year, they get 6 months (pro-rata: 1 month for every percent above 5%) ? And rank-and-file civil servants are getting 2 months ?</b></p>
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		<title>By: andrewong2024</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrewong2024</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope our opposition parties leaders would do more to re-look into their political positions and re-strategise.

They desperately need to show to us Singaporeans what they can offer as a credible alternative other than the PAP for us to vote and support them with confidence in taking Singapore forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope our opposition parties leaders would do more to re-look into their political positions and re-strategise.</p>
<p>They desperately need to show to us Singaporeans what they can offer as a credible alternative other than the PAP for us to vote and support them with confidence in taking Singapore forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaffein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaffein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mayhaps the incumbent govmt thinks they may not win so big the next election. So better milk all they can while they are still ahead.

I hope SGPreans come to terms why it is necessary for oppositions (if better strong oppositions) to be in the government. Who is there to check on the ministerial salaries? Who is there to audit the investments and CPFs? Everything seems to be a blackbox right now, how the govrmt justify pay-hikes, GSTs, inflation, etc.

Well, you get whom you vote. Hope we are wiser next round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mayhaps the incumbent govmt thinks they may not win so big the next election. So better milk all they can while they are still ahead.</p>
<p>I hope SGPreans come to terms why it is necessary for oppositions (if better strong oppositions) to be in the government. Who is there to check on the ministerial salaries? Who is there to audit the investments and CPFs? Everything seems to be a blackbox right now, how the govrmt justify pay-hikes, GSTs, inflation, etc.</p>
<p>Well, you get whom you vote. Hope we are wiser next round.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singapore Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;I hope they won’t do it. It’s certainly a political suicide if they try to push through amidst rising cost of living and inflation.


http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071126/letters/letters1.html

Lee fearlessly introduced a number of other far-reaching ..., despite the fact that certain of them were unpopular and caused &quot;endless letters to the newspapers...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;I hope they won’t do it. It’s certainly a political suicide if they try to push through amidst rising cost of living and inflation.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071126/letters/letters1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20071126/letters/letters1.html</a></p>
<p>Lee fearlessly introduced a number of other far-reaching &#8230;, despite the fact that certain of them were unpopular and caused &#8220;endless letters to the newspapers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: macabresg</title>
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		<dc:creator>macabresg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 15:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope they won&#039;t do it. It&#039;s certainly a political suicide if they try to push through amidst rising cost of living and inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope they won&#8217;t do it. It&#8217;s certainly a political suicide if they try to push through amidst rising cost of living and inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Chan TP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chan TP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought Ah Long ( loan shark ) very gangster, &#039;our elite&#039; better. want more money sure get, no need to write graffiti or spray paint. some more so legal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought Ah Long ( loan shark ) very gangster, &#8216;our elite&#8217; better. want more money sure get, no need to write graffiti or spray paint. some more so legal</p>
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		<title>By: Ups and Downs &#171; Used Brains For Sale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ups and Downs &#171; Used Brains For Sale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 12:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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