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	<title>Comments on: TOC Breaking News: 50 Burmese nationals protest</title>
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		<title>By: I won’t take middle-ground positions – Chia Ti Lik &#171; Lady in the Mirror</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-226451</link>
		<dc:creator>I won’t take middle-ground positions – Chia Ti Lik &#171; Lady in the Mirror</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 03:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That was the time I got to know Rizal (activist Isrizal Mohamed Isa), M Ravi, Seelan (Palay), (Ng) Kai Xiong – I mean, a large number of them are aligned to the SDP (Singapore Democratic Party) now. During the ASEAN summit (in 2007) we did try to present a card to the ASEAN- I think we tried to present it to the secretary to pass it to Aung Sung Suu Kyi or something like that. Yeah that was one of the high points –we did a procession from Orchard MRT station to the place that they stopped us from going further at Shangri-La. ( Read about the protest here.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That was the time I got to know Rizal (activist Isrizal Mohamed Isa), M Ravi, Seelan (Palay), (Ng) Kai Xiong – I mean, a large number of them are aligned to the SDP (Singapore Democratic Party) now. During the ASEAN summit (in 2007) we did try to present a card to the ASEAN- I think we tried to present it to the secretary to pass it to Aung Sung Suu Kyi or something like that. Yeah that was one of the high points –we did a procession from Orchard MRT station to the place that they stopped us from going further at Shangri-La. ( Read about the protest here.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I won&#8217;t take middle-ground positions &#8211; Chia Ti Lik &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-181120</link>
		<dc:creator>I won&#8217;t take middle-ground positions &#8211; Chia Ti Lik &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That was the time I got to know Rizal (activist Isrizal Mohamed Isa), M Ravi, Seelan (Palay), (Ng) Kai Xiong – I mean, a large number of them are aligned to the SDP (Singapore Democratic Party) now. During the ASEAN summit (in 2007) we did try to present a card to the ASEAN- I think we tried to present it to the secretary to pass it to Aung Sung Suu Kyi or something like that. Yeah that was one of the high points –we did a procession from Orchard MRT station to the place that they stopped us from going further at Shangri-La. ( Read about the protest here.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That was the time I got to know Rizal (activist Isrizal Mohamed Isa), M Ravi, Seelan (Palay), (Ng) Kai Xiong – I mean, a large number of them are aligned to the SDP (Singapore Democratic Party) now. During the ASEAN summit (in 2007) we did try to present a card to the ASEAN- I think we tried to present it to the secretary to pass it to Aung Sung Suu Kyi or something like that. Yeah that was one of the high points –we did a procession from Orchard MRT station to the place that they stopped us from going further at Shangri-La. ( Read about the protest here.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Face To Face with Seelan Palay (Part 2) &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-164081</link>
		<dc:creator>Face To Face with Seelan Palay (Part 2) &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 04:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This was after the Burmese demonstration at Orchard Road in 2007. (more about the demonstration here) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Public Arrests and Political Obligation in Singapore &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3706</link>
		<dc:creator>Public Arrests and Political Obligation in Singapore &#171; Readings From A Political Duo-ble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 01:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 3. 50 Burmese nationals protest, The Online Citizen, 20 November 2007 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Aung</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 01:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Choon,

Thank you for the video.

With best regards,
Aung</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Choon,</p>
<p>Thank you for the video.</p>
<p>With best regards,<br />
Aung</p>
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		<title>By: choon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3678</link>
		<dc:creator>choon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aung and all

forgot to place the link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t3RYT6Xwds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aung and all</p>
<p>forgot to place the link : <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t3RYT6Xwds" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0t3RYT6Xwds</a></p>
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		<title>By: choon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3677</link>
		<dc:creator>choon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Aung and all

a video of the burmese demonstration at Orchard Road</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Aung and all</p>
<p>a video of the burmese demonstration at Orchard Road</p>
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		<title>By: Aung</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3673</link>
		<dc:creator>Aung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 06:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Blackteeshirt:

I am one of the Burmese demonstrators that day.

By demonstrating in Singapore, we could be sent back. We knowingly took the risk. Most the Burmese oversea regretted that they were not in Burma during September uprising. If we were inside, surely we would join the protest as we did in 1988.

Sometimes, you need to do for what you believe. In fact, the right to assembly is one of our fundamental human rights. If a party or a government is using unjust laws to violate our rights, it is better to defy those unjust laws rather than keeping quiet. For doing that, you may face the retialation from the government. But your effort will never be in vain.

With best regards,
Aung</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Blackteeshirt:</p>
<p>I am one of the Burmese demonstrators that day.</p>
<p>By demonstrating in Singapore, we could be sent back. We knowingly took the risk. Most the Burmese oversea regretted that they were not in Burma during September uprising. If we were inside, surely we would join the protest as we did in 1988.</p>
<p>Sometimes, you need to do for what you believe. In fact, the right to assembly is one of our fundamental human rights. If a party or a government is using unjust laws to violate our rights, it is better to defy those unjust laws rather than keeping quiet. For doing that, you may face the retialation from the government. But your effort will never be in vain.</p>
<p>With best regards,<br />
Aung</p>
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		<title>By: blackteeshirt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator>blackteeshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Nov 2007 02:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>we have to consider if the burmese who protested in singapore would protest in burma when the protests were ongoing, when the military used extreme violence.

they protested in singapore where they wouldnt be exposed to such violence by the authorities.

if they wouldnt, it would be equivalent to the singaporeans in singapore wouldnt it?

if they would, it teachs us a lesson in democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we have to consider if the burmese who protested in singapore would protest in burma when the protests were ongoing, when the military used extreme violence.</p>
<p>they protested in singapore where they wouldnt be exposed to such violence by the authorities.</p>
<p>if they wouldnt, it would be equivalent to the singaporeans in singapore wouldnt it?</p>
<p>if they would, it teachs us a lesson in democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Hurts</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>The Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 15:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free-riding or getting a good deal, is the true Singaporean calculative way. If one is so gungho about it, stand with the Burmese protesters the next time they head out.

It is almost like with voting in opposition during GE - everybody wants more opposition in parliament, as long as the opposition does not win the SMC or GRC they are living in. Let some other SMC or GRC take the risk, while the rest reap the returns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free-riding or getting a good deal, is the true Singaporean calculative way. If one is so gungho about it, stand with the Burmese protesters the next time they head out.</p>
<p>It is almost like with voting in opposition during GE &#8211; everybody wants more opposition in parliament, as long as the opposition does not win the SMC or GRC they are living in. Let some other SMC or GRC take the risk, while the rest reap the returns.</p>
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		<title>By: SH Yeo</title>
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		<dc:creator>SH Yeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burma have their &#039;junta&#039;s&#039;, so have singapore. time to learn from the burmese what is worth fighting for in their life. Open yr BIG EYES folks!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burma have their &#8216;junta&#8217;s', so have singapore. time to learn from the burmese what is worth fighting for in their life. Open yr BIG EYES folks!!!</p>
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		<title>By: SGFRAG &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 50 Burmese nationals protest</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3676</link>
		<dc:creator>SGFRAG &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 50 Burmese nationals protest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Full Story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: afa</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3680</link>
		<dc:creator>afa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With this kind of thinking.. ..... free rider..

U still think Singpaore will benefits with ur thinking..



The Burmese protest yesterday is good for Singaporeans. They take the risk, we harvest the returns. We cheer on along the side, but if they get busted by the police and deported, it doesn’t affect us. If anything, their arrest would make the government and police more vulnerable to criticism and cause further cracks in their credibility. The government would eventually buckle under pressure if this keeps up, and change to a more progressive one. The problem is getting enough cannon fodder to sustain the pressure on this government. These Burmese protestors are useful and should be encouraged. Let’s be brutally honest. To put it as a harsh analogy, they are somewhat like the foreign workers here - they do the dirty job and then we send them home after a while, and Singapore society benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With this kind of thinking.. &#8230;.. free rider..</p>
<p>U still think Singpaore will benefits with ur thinking..</p>
<p>The Burmese protest yesterday is good for Singaporeans. They take the risk, we harvest the returns. We cheer on along the side, but if they get busted by the police and deported, it doesn’t affect us. If anything, their arrest would make the government and police more vulnerable to criticism and cause further cracks in their credibility. The government would eventually buckle under pressure if this keeps up, and change to a more progressive one. The problem is getting enough cannon fodder to sustain the pressure on this government. These Burmese protestors are useful and should be encouraged. Let’s be brutally honest. To put it as a harsh analogy, they are somewhat like the foreign workers here &#8211; they do the dirty job and then we send them home after a while, and Singapore society benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: Dingo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>Dingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Dr Chee is there, complain. When he is not there, also complain. HAHA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Dr Chee is there, complain. When he is not there, also complain. HAHA.</p>
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		<title>By: LifesLikeThat</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3687</link>
		<dc:creator>LifesLikeThat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 04:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timmons,

I am also curious why chee himself was not there. I am disappointed that the sdp got involved in this. The Burmese people had genuine grievances to air with ASEAN and they can&#039;t do this in their own country. So they try and do this here in Singapore where the ASEAN meeting is being held.

It is sad to see that an opportunistic opposition party is trying to piggyback on the Burmese people&#039;s genuine sufferings in order to stage a sideshow or a wayang.

I am really disappointed with the SDP. I think they need to give it a rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timmons,</p>
<p>I am also curious why chee himself was not there. I am disappointed that the sdp got involved in this. The Burmese people had genuine grievances to air with ASEAN and they can&#8217;t do this in their own country. So they try and do this here in Singapore where the ASEAN meeting is being held.</p>
<p>It is sad to see that an opportunistic opposition party is trying to piggyback on the Burmese people&#8217;s genuine sufferings in order to stage a sideshow or a wayang.</p>
<p>I am really disappointed with the SDP. I think they need to give it a rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmons</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3699</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2007 03:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A while back, Chee Soon Juan had “protested” outside the Istana and his party had amassed signatures in their 2 in 1 petitions. But where is he when it matters most at ASEAN where all the leaders who can make a difference are all there? He is after all, the darling of all international media. Strangely, only his sister and party member went over to &#039;give the Burmese support&#039;.

i salute the burmese students in their brave and sincere efforts for their march. they did not create a scene and cooperated with the police. i hope that no singaporeans or foreigners allows themselves to be used as any political party&#039;s mouthpiece</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A while back, Chee Soon Juan had “protested” outside the Istana and his party had amassed signatures in their 2 in 1 petitions. But where is he when it matters most at ASEAN where all the leaders who can make a difference are all there? He is after all, the darling of all international media. Strangely, only his sister and party member went over to &#8216;give the Burmese support&#8217;.</p>
<p>i salute the burmese students in their brave and sincere efforts for their march. they did not create a scene and cooperated with the police. i hope that no singaporeans or foreigners allows themselves to be used as any political party&#8217;s mouthpiece</p>
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		<title>By: shamil</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3688</link>
		<dc:creator>shamil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfnyayx_7u8

see this!!</description>
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<p>see this!!</p>
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		<title>By: Unfortunate Singaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/11/toc-developing-news-protest-planned-by-burmese-nationals/comment-page-1/#comment-3689</link>
		<dc:creator>Unfortunate Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deep down inside i believe every police officer wished he could let the Myanmese marchers proceed. But do note some differences in approaches.

The Myanmese gathered and marched but complied immediately with police orders.

CSC and John Tan were more defiant and proceeded. Come on, lunch at the hotel?!?

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The type of peaceful gatherings the Myanmese engage in produce sympathy. The confrontational &quot;peaceful&quot; actions by the SDP provoke reaction.

No right no wrong.... just different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deep down inside i believe every police officer wished he could let the Myanmese marchers proceed. But do note some differences in approaches.</p>
<p>The Myanmese gathered and marched but complied immediately with police orders.</p>
<p>CSC and John Tan were more defiant and proceeded. Come on, lunch at the hotel?!?</p>
<p>For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The type of peaceful gatherings the Myanmese engage in produce sympathy. The confrontational &#8220;peaceful&#8221; actions by the SDP provoke reaction.</p>
<p>No right no wrong&#8230;. just different.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t the govt got told to MYOB by the Burmese, Malaysian and Indons?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t the govt got told to MYOB by the Burmese, Malaysian and Indons?</p>
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		<title>By: The Truth Hurts</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Truth Hurts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Burmese protest yesterday is good for Singaporeans. They take the risk, we harvest the returns. We cheer on along the side, but if they get busted by the police and deported, it doesn&#039;t affect us. If anything, their arrest would make the government and police more vulnerable to criticism and cause further cracks in their credibility. The government would eventually buckle under pressure if this keeps up, and change to a more progressive one. The problem is getting enough cannon fodder to sustain the pressure on this government. These Burmese protestors are useful and should be encouraged. Let&#039;s be brutally honest. To put it as a harsh analogy, they are somewhat like the foreign workers here - they do the dirty job and then we send them home after a while, and Singapore society benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Burmese protest yesterday is good for Singaporeans. They take the risk, we harvest the returns. We cheer on along the side, but if they get busted by the police and deported, it doesn&#8217;t affect us. If anything, their arrest would make the government and police more vulnerable to criticism and cause further cracks in their credibility. The government would eventually buckle under pressure if this keeps up, and change to a more progressive one. The problem is getting enough cannon fodder to sustain the pressure on this government. These Burmese protestors are useful and should be encouraged. Let&#8217;s be brutally honest. To put it as a harsh analogy, they are somewhat like the foreign workers here &#8211; they do the dirty job and then we send them home after a while, and Singapore society benefits.</p>
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