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		<title>By: Teo CW</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teo CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am having a feeling of some Madoff or Ponzi scheme going on. Artificial creation of money. The pay rise is beyond logic. It will not be surprising that those leaders will run away with the money &amp; leave us to die alone. All the foreign labor influx &amp; the real estate frenzy seems like a last minute profiteering move before winding up. I am getting desperate to quit this country before our leaders really run away with our money. If such a thing shall happen it&#039;s no use even if the opposition party wins the elections. The sovereign wealth which our forefathers built for decades will be gone in the hands of such corrupted leaders. With no natural resources, Singapore can only surrender &amp; be part of Malaya again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am having a feeling of some Madoff or Ponzi scheme going on. Artificial creation of money. The pay rise is beyond logic. It will not be surprising that those leaders will run away with the money &amp; leave us to die alone. All the foreign labor influx &amp; the real estate frenzy seems like a last minute profiteering move before winding up. I am getting desperate to quit this country before our leaders really run away with our money. If such a thing shall happen it&#8217;s no use even if the opposition party wins the elections. The sovereign wealth which our forefathers built for decades will be gone in the hands of such corrupted leaders. With no natural resources, Singapore can only surrender &amp; be part of Malaya again.</p>
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		<title>By: idiot</title>
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		<dc:creator>idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>need so much money for what? grand funeral, long term hospital stay. no conscience blood sucker !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>need so much money for what? grand funeral, long term hospital stay. no conscience blood sucker !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The govt has replied in TODAY:

&quot;The total annual pay for ministers includes all bonuses, such as the 13th-month payment, the AVERAGE performance bonus and the GDP bonus.&quot;

Notice how the word &quot;average&quot; is so well hidden in the reply??!!! Does it imply that some ministers&#039; salaries are higher than the benckmark???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The govt has replied in TODAY:</p>
<p>&#8220;The total annual pay for ministers includes all bonuses, such as the 13th-month payment, the AVERAGE performance bonus and the GDP bonus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Notice how the word &#8220;average&#8221; is so well hidden in the reply??!!! Does it imply that some ministers&#8217; salaries are higher than the benckmark???</p>
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		<title>By: blackshirt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/are-ministers-already-being-paid-over-their-private-sector-salary-benchmark/comment-page-1/#comment-4000</link>
		<dc:creator>blackshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 11:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PMO&#039;s reply:
&lt;b&gt;Public sector&#039;s benchmark pay includes all bonuses&lt;/b&gt;

http://www.todayonline.com/articles/229130.asp

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&lt;i&gt;&quot;The total annual pay for ministers includes all bonuses, such as the 13th-month payment, the average performance bonus and the GDP performance bonus and the GDP bonus. In the latest revision, we have also included the imputed value of the pension.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PMO&#8217;s reply:<br />
<b>Public sector&#8217;s benchmark pay includes all bonuses</b></p>
<p><a href="http://www.todayonline.com/articles/229130.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.todayonline.com/articles/229130.asp</a></p>
<p>Quote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The total annual pay for ministers includes all bonuses, such as the 13th-month payment, the average performance bonus and the GDP performance bonus and the GDP bonus. In the latest revision, we have also included the imputed value of the pension.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Lyer</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/are-ministers-already-being-paid-over-their-private-sector-salary-benchmark/comment-page-1/#comment-4002</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 14:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure if ministers are now paid more than the private sector, but I can dead certain that they are paid more than their worth!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if ministers are now paid more than the private sector, but I can dead certain that they are paid more than their worth!!</p>
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		<title>By: For Self-interest or People&#8217;s Interest &#171; Andrew: Inside &#38; Insights</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/are-ministers-already-being-paid-over-their-private-sector-salary-benchmark/comment-page-1/#comment-3998</link>
		<dc:creator>For Self-interest or People&#8217;s Interest &#171; Andrew: Inside &#38; Insights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daily SG: 18 Dec 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/are-ministers-already-being-paid-over-their-private-sector-salary-benchmark/comment-page-1/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily SG: 18 Dec 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich or Die Tryin’ - The Online Citizen: Are ministers already being paid more than their private sector salary benchmark? - My Singapore News: A simple comparison of salaries - Salary.sg: Pay Rise For Government [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Robert HO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RH:
1.  Ministers over 55, and most of them are, also receive concurrent PENSION on top of their &#039;salary&#039; and all kinds of bonuses, allowances and perks.  This is never the case in the private sector, where if you continue to work and draw regular pay, your pension is held back until you retire.

2.  Proof that LKY is responsible for &lt;20% of Singapore&#039;s alleged &#039;success&#039; is seen in the fact that NONE of the Sinic-cultural countries of China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hongkong, even some IndoChinese countries EVER had a LKY as ruler yet are doing amazingly well in all measures from GDP to society development to infrastructure and the peoples&#039; wellbeing, much harder for these countries as they are real countries, not a tiny city islet like Singapore.

3.  It is precisely because these Sinic-cultural countries are succeeding so well, especially and including in GDP, that put enormous pressure on LKY LHL PAP to be &#039;better&#039;, with such moral pressure on them to justify their &#039;specialness&#039; and &#039;talent&#039; that they have resorted to desperate, reckless and unsustainable policies to import huge hordes of foreigners to artificially &#039;grow&#039; the GDP to look good and successful, thus setting Singapore and its people on a path to self-destruction.

4.  For a more complete exposition of how this Sinic-cultural legacy is the real qualities responsible for the true success of the abovementioned countries, see my Commment in the last TOC article just before this 1.  For more original ideas and concepts, see my blogs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RH:<br />
1.  Ministers over 55, and most of them are, also receive concurrent PENSION on top of their &#8217;salary&#8217; and all kinds of bonuses, allowances and perks.  This is never the case in the private sector, where if you continue to work and draw regular pay, your pension is held back until you retire.</p>
<p>2.  Proof that LKY is responsible for &lt;20% of Singapore&#8217;s alleged &#8217;success&#8217; is seen in the fact that NONE of the Sinic-cultural countries of China, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Hongkong, even some IndoChinese countries EVER had a LKY as ruler yet are doing amazingly well in all measures from GDP to society development to infrastructure and the peoples&#8217; wellbeing, much harder for these countries as they are real countries, not a tiny city islet like Singapore.</p>
<p>3.  It is precisely because these Sinic-cultural countries are succeeding so well, especially and including in GDP, that put enormous pressure on LKY LHL PAP to be &#8216;better&#8217;, with such moral pressure on them to justify their &#8217;specialness&#8217; and &#8216;talent&#8217; that they have resorted to desperate, reckless and unsustainable policies to import huge hordes of foreigners to artificially &#8216;grow&#8217; the GDP to look good and successful, thus setting Singapore and its people on a path to self-destruction.</p>
<p>4.  For a more complete exposition of how this Sinic-cultural legacy is the real qualities responsible for the true success of the abovementioned countries, see my Commment in the last TOC article just before this 1.  For more original ideas and concepts, see my blogs.</p>
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