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	<title>Comments on: Uniquely Singapore, F1 or F9: “Residents willing to pay more for service and conservancy”?</title>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Leong, I think we all being the citizens of Singapore have the rights to know who is actually responsible or behind all these wrong doings and its time the TCs owe us all a dame good explanation to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Leong, I think we all being the citizens of Singapore have the rights to know who is actually responsible or behind all these wrong doings and its time the TCs owe us all a dame good explanation to this.</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi tiredsingaporean

If you can&#039;t pay your S &amp; C C, the penalty is as high as 2% per month (like credit card interest, which is even hgher than the pawn shops or licensed moneylenders )

If you can&#039;t even pay for your arrears, how can you afford to pay the fine in court?

So, you may end up in jail!

Cheers

Leong Sze Hian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi tiredsingaporean</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t pay your S &amp; C C, the penalty is as high as 2% per month (like credit card interest, which is even hgher than the pawn shops or licensed moneylenders )</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t even pay for your arrears, how can you afford to pay the fine in court?</p>
<p>So, you may end up in jail!</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Leong Sze Hian</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just hope those ppl involved in all these doings at town councils to ask yourselves, do you ppl have hearts???? taking the hard earned money from the citizens and if they can&#039;t pay, you bring them to court, and if they still can&#039;t pay, throw them in jail.....what the hell is going on in this country today...../////xxxxxx//????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just hope those ppl involved in all these doings at town councils to ask yourselves, do you ppl have hearts???? taking the hard earned money from the citizens and if they can&#8217;t pay, you bring them to court, and if they still can&#8217;t pay, throw them in jail&#8230;..what the hell is going on in this country today&#8230;../////xxxxxx//????</p>
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		<title>By: Aunty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aunty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow , wat a website, will come back again , i agree with all of you here, we are being fleece by the father , the son, and the holy ghost huh, when will they go to heaven ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow , wat a website, will come back again , i agree with all of you here, we are being fleece by the father , the son, and the holy ghost huh, when will they go to heaven ?</p>
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		<title>By: heng yp</title>
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		<dc:creator>heng yp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 18:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>high time to change the people on top that runs these town council.they are making money using our money. how can these people sleep tight at night without nightmare. sick fellows !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>high time to change the people on top that runs these town council.they are making money using our money. how can these people sleep tight at night without nightmare. sick fellows !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Seeking Salvation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeking Salvation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U be very surprised that the Regency Park Condo in the pretigious district of 10 About 20 units are owner by a town councile known as EM Services Pte Ltd.  What has the town council with so much excess funds doing in buying condos
Aren&#039;t we paying to much maintenance to allow a body to dabble
in real estate.  The main aim of collecting maintenance is to maintain the estate.  I see some estates being painted with the gaudiest and ugliest paint which u yourself would not buy off the shelves of the paint shop.  Its about time things be set right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U be very surprised that the Regency Park Condo in the pretigious district of 10 About 20 units are owner by a town councile known as EM Services Pte Ltd.  What has the town council with so much excess funds doing in buying condos<br />
Aren&#8217;t we paying to much maintenance to allow a body to dabble<br />
in real estate.  The main aim of collecting maintenance is to maintain the estate.  I see some estates being painted with the gaudiest and ugliest paint which u yourself would not buy off the shelves of the paint shop.  Its about time things be set right</p>
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		<title>By: blackshirt</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackshirt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 04:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Transparency&lt;/b&gt; is a marketing word used in our government speeches. It is for the world to hear but not practice. In reality, the lack of information is key to their control of the population. We all know too well about the ambiguity of &quot;Singapore residents&quot;. And MOM statistics are state secrets?

People are willing to pay more for service and conservancy? Nobody like to pay more money for anything, even the rich. In some instances, the government like to pay less for things. Dr Vivian Balakrishnan believed in dishing out no more than $290. They like to pay the least possible for water from our neighbouring country. Buy cheaper sand. Take your land and pay you prevailing rates based some previous years and not current rates.

But then, they are willing to pay more for overseas investments. In the end, it is the population that is paying for the dismay results of those investments now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Transparency</b> is a marketing word used in our government speeches. It is for the world to hear but not practice. In reality, the lack of information is key to their control of the population. We all know too well about the ambiguity of &#8220;Singapore residents&#8221;. And MOM statistics are state secrets?</p>
<p>People are willing to pay more for service and conservancy? Nobody like to pay more money for anything, even the rich. In some instances, the government like to pay less for things. Dr Vivian Balakrishnan believed in dishing out no more than $290. They like to pay the least possible for water from our neighbouring country. Buy cheaper sand. Take your land and pay you prevailing rates based some previous years and not current rates.</p>
<p>But then, they are willing to pay more for overseas investments. In the end, it is the population that is paying for the dismay results of those investments now.</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 07:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Town councils investing in stock market
October 11th, 2007 by mrbiao

While looking through Creative Technology’s latest Annual Report, I was surprised to see “Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council” listed as one of the majority shareholders with 530,000 shares currently valued at about S$3,000,000.

While I understand that town councils would want to invest their funds to get some capital gains on their surpluses, I wonder if there are any policies to guide their investments. Should town councils be allowed to invest their funds in high-risk equities? Who approves the investments? And, why would the Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council invest in Creative Technology, a company that has been losing value on the stock market for years? If the town council had already owned the shares since long ago, they should have sold their holdings to prevent further losses. If they had just bought in not long ago, the question would be about how wise the decision to buy was, or whose idea/advice was it for the town council to throw their money into this counter.

I would think town councils should put their money in lower risk investments such as fixed deposits or funds with track records of stable performance… at the end of the day, town councils should not see investments as a primary source of income - after all, the funds come from taxpayers and should rightfully be used for improvements to facilities rather than as capital for investments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Town councils investing in stock market<br />
October 11th, 2007 by mrbiao</p>
<p>While looking through Creative Technology’s latest Annual Report, I was surprised to see “Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council” listed as one of the majority shareholders with 530,000 shares currently valued at about S$3,000,000.</p>
<p>While I understand that town councils would want to invest their funds to get some capital gains on their surpluses, I wonder if there are any policies to guide their investments. Should town councils be allowed to invest their funds in high-risk equities? Who approves the investments? And, why would the Holland-Bukit Panjang Town Council invest in Creative Technology, a company that has been losing value on the stock market for years? If the town council had already owned the shares since long ago, they should have sold their holdings to prevent further losses. If they had just bought in not long ago, the question would be about how wise the decision to buy was, or whose idea/advice was it for the town council to throw their money into this counter.</p>
<p>I would think town councils should put their money in lower risk investments such as fixed deposits or funds with track records of stable performance… at the end of the day, town councils should not see investments as a primary source of income &#8211; after all, the funds come from taxpayers and should rightfully be used for improvements to facilities rather than as capital for investments.</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oct 8, 2007 Straits Times Forum
Why build flats when so many units unsold?
I READ with renewed surprise that the HDB will build even more flats (&#039;Govt to boost supply of homes&#039;; ST, Oct 2), even as many blocks in Jurong West remain fenced up and unsold and many individual units in my block and neighbouring blocks remain unsold.
The HDB should be responsible in its building programme as resources should be well used.

Who bears the brunt of these bad decisions in which poor planning led to these unsold flats? Buyers like me who collected my keys more than eight years ago when demand was so high I had to queue. I paid $387,000 for my HDB executive flat.

When I wrote previously to ST Forum about high prices, I was told they were subsidised and based on real cost of construction and so on. Well, guess what. Over the past 12 months, the HDB has sold the same types of flats including some in the same block as mine at about $260,000. Has their value dropped so drastically in eight years? Or does the costing now get some subsidy from elsewhere to allow the flats to be sold so cheaply?

Now, original buyers are unable to sell their second- hand flats, because the HDB is selling &#039;new&#039; ones in the same block at more than $100,000 less than what we paid. The HDB has effectively taken the bottom off the resale market for new home owners who qualify to buy directly from it, leaving a much smaller group of resale buyers who do not meet the guidelines for direct HDB purchase. These buyers are willing to pay a little more but are unwilling to pay a decent price since the HDB set the &#039;new&#039; sale benchmark.


Lawrence Ng Wai Chun</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oct 8, 2007 Straits Times Forum<br />
Why build flats when so many units unsold?<br />
I READ with renewed surprise that the HDB will build even more flats (&#8216;Govt to boost supply of homes&#8217;; ST, Oct 2), even as many blocks in Jurong West remain fenced up and unsold and many individual units in my block and neighbouring blocks remain unsold.<br />
The HDB should be responsible in its building programme as resources should be well used.</p>
<p>Who bears the brunt of these bad decisions in which poor planning led to these unsold flats? Buyers like me who collected my keys more than eight years ago when demand was so high I had to queue. I paid $387,000 for my HDB executive flat.</p>
<p>When I wrote previously to ST Forum about high prices, I was told they were subsidised and based on real cost of construction and so on. Well, guess what. Over the past 12 months, the HDB has sold the same types of flats including some in the same block as mine at about $260,000. Has their value dropped so drastically in eight years? Or does the costing now get some subsidy from elsewhere to allow the flats to be sold so cheaply?</p>
<p>Now, original buyers are unable to sell their second- hand flats, because the HDB is selling &#8216;new&#8217; ones in the same block at more than $100,000 less than what we paid. The HDB has effectively taken the bottom off the resale market for new home owners who qualify to buy directly from it, leaving a much smaller group of resale buyers who do not meet the guidelines for direct HDB purchase. These buyers are willing to pay a little more but are unwilling to pay a decent price since the HDB set the &#8216;new&#8217; sale benchmark.</p>
<p>Lawrence Ng Wai Chun</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oct 8, 2007 Straits Times Forum
Conditions unchanged, why 8% rise in flat price?
I READ with interest the reply by the HDB, &#039;Fernvale flat prices: Comparisons inapt&#039; (ST, Oct 2).
From the letter, it would seem that the pricing of units in the Build-To-Order project is justified. However, I would like to ask HDB to justify this.

I bought (although technically I leased) an executive apartment in Sengkang in January.

At the time of booking, the unit one floor below mine was going for $298,000. After six months, the same unit was going for $322,000.

Absolutely nothing was done to the unit to justify an 8 per cent increase in selling price, considering there was no change in facilities or &#039;improved design features&#039;.

Another issue I would like to raise is the so-called subsidy new flat buyers like me are supposed to enjoy.

At the point of signing the lease agreement, my flat was priced at a mere $10,000 less than resale flats with similar qualities, that is, same cluster and same flat size. What is more, resale flats came renovated.

May I ask, where is the subsidy? It is unfair that I have to pay a levy of $50,000 for a price difference of only $10,000.


Liew Yi Xui (Ms)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oct 8, 2007 Straits Times Forum<br />
Conditions unchanged, why 8% rise in flat price?<br />
I READ with interest the reply by the HDB, &#8216;Fernvale flat prices: Comparisons inapt&#8217; (ST, Oct 2).<br />
From the letter, it would seem that the pricing of units in the Build-To-Order project is justified. However, I would like to ask HDB to justify this.</p>
<p>I bought (although technically I leased) an executive apartment in Sengkang in January.</p>
<p>At the time of booking, the unit one floor below mine was going for $298,000. After six months, the same unit was going for $322,000.</p>
<p>Absolutely nothing was done to the unit to justify an 8 per cent increase in selling price, considering there was no change in facilities or &#8216;improved design features&#8217;.</p>
<p>Another issue I would like to raise is the so-called subsidy new flat buyers like me are supposed to enjoy.</p>
<p>At the point of signing the lease agreement, my flat was priced at a mere $10,000 less than resale flats with similar qualities, that is, same cluster and same flat size. What is more, resale flats came renovated.</p>
<p>May I ask, where is the subsidy? It is unfair that I have to pay a levy of $50,000 for a price difference of only $10,000.</p>
<p>Liew Yi Xui (Ms)</p>
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		<title>By: toeJAM</title>
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		<dc:creator>toeJAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You are right, over here at Yishun, it&#039;s also getting dirtier by the day and I am wondering if I should stop paying S&amp;C until TC get their act together.
They also have Banglas working at a cheap rate that my calculation shows there is excess profit, so no need to raise charges.
I think we should collectively voice our concerns and challenge that we take over the maintenance with the same charges and yet do a better job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You are right, over here at Yishun, it&#8217;s also getting dirtier by the day and I am wondering if I should stop paying S&amp;C until TC get their act together.<br />
They also have Banglas working at a cheap rate that my calculation shows there is excess profit, so no need to raise charges.<br />
I think we should collectively voice our concerns and challenge that we take over the maintenance with the same charges and yet do a better job.</p>
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		<title>By: shoestring</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoestring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRP is a waste of money and I wouldn&#039;t want to pay a single cent more for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRP is a waste of money and I wouldn&#8217;t want to pay a single cent more for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert HO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RH:
1.  Thanks to my wife&#039;s hard work and intelligence, I get to live in a condo and even get to drive her car, despite 15 years of criminal attacks and criminal virtual imprisonment that prevent me from earning a cent, despite a headful of some of the biggest commercial Ideas of all time.  LIE KY LHL PAP hate me because I am such a genius and they are such idiots.  The whites also hate any non-white smarter than them.  This pretty much explains the unexplainable hostility I have suffered.

2.  Today, just an observation or insight from Hongkong.  In Hongkong, there are many, many, what I call &quot;no-frills condos&quot;.  These no-frills condos are simply high-rise blocks, several in 1 development, with modest car lots and just a little condo public space.  No huge swimming pools, tennis courts, billiard room, karaoke rooms, barbecue pits, squash courts and exercise gym like my Guilin View condo.  BUT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE AND VERY POPULAR, WHICH MEANS PROFITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, AND MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS OF HONGKONGERS.

3.  In Singapore, because the PAP wants to rape all the citzens&#039; CPF accounts, an unlimited source of free or cheap funds with which they can play Warren Buffet or George Soros, as well as gain an immense clout and &quot;weight&quot; [as recently admitted by a PAP Minister] in international affairs, the PAP is determined to keep 85% of the people in HDB flats, simply by making it too expensive for them to buy private condos and landed property, through a variety of land development charges, high price land sales, and other taxes.

4.  However, this may now be time to copy the Hongkong idea.  Firstly, HDB prices have gotten so ridiculous [75% pa increase over 4 months being normal -- and unknown if not for genius Mr LEONG Sze Hian], see :

http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/26/why-does-hdb-need-to-increase-prices-of-flats-so-rapidly/#more-503

RH:  ... that there is now opened a niche market for private condo developers to develop Hongkong style no-frills condos THAT CAN COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH THE HDB, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, SQ METRE BY SQ METRE.

5.  Simply by not having huge swimming pools, tennis and squash courts, karaoke rooms, billiard room, barbecue pits, gym, etc, or having just small and cheap things like the gym, etc, condo developers can reduce the price of each flat dramatically, thus gaining a new market from those currently only able to buy say, 4 and 5 room HDB flats.  I have lived here 7 years and have hardly used the swimming pools and never the billiard, tennis, squash, karaoke, function, rooms, etc, and I don&#039;t miss anything.  So, many frills are actually little used by the vast majority.

6.  No frills will also lower maintenance fees dramatically.  Currently, the 5 blocks in my condo require over 30 security guards for 24/7 patrols and duties, plus many cleaners and gardeners to keep the estate neat and landscaped.  Plus a condo manager and a few staff in a small office.  Most of these can be done away with.  Probably, all you need in a no-frills condo are half a dozen security guards and a few cleaners.  And maybe just 1 condo manager/staff to keep an eye on things.  Volunteers from the residents can also help manage the condo in a residents committee.  Thus, it can be very affordable.

7.  I believe that there is now a market for these no-frills condos.  Go to Hongkong and see how they do it.  Hongkong developers with the experience can also look at Singapore to see if they can do it here.  The PAP will fight back with more dirty tactics and tricks as usual.  But despite these, I think there is a huge untapped market.  MAY I ALSO ADD THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HONGKONG AND SINGAPORE IS THAT &quot;HONGKONG SOLVES ITS PROBLEMS WHILE SINGAPORE HIDES ITS&quot;.  There, my good deed for the day.
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1.  Thanks to my wife&#8217;s hard work and intelligence, I get to live in a condo and even get to drive her car, despite 15 years of criminal attacks and criminal virtual imprisonment that prevent me from earning a cent, despite a headful of some of the biggest commercial Ideas of all time.  LIE KY LHL PAP hate me because I am such a genius and they are such idiots.  The whites also hate any non-white smarter than them.  This pretty much explains the unexplainable hostility I have suffered.</p>
<p>2.  Today, just an observation or insight from Hongkong.  In Hongkong, there are many, many, what I call &#8220;no-frills condos&#8221;.  These no-frills condos are simply high-rise blocks, several in 1 development, with modest car lots and just a little condo public space.  No huge swimming pools, tennis courts, billiard room, karaoke rooms, barbecue pits, squash courts and exercise gym like my Guilin View condo.  BUT THEY ARE AFFORDABLE AND VERY POPULAR, WHICH MEANS PROFITABLE FOR THE DEVELOPER, AND MEET THE HOUSING NEEDS OF HONGKONGERS.</p>
<p>3.  In Singapore, because the PAP wants to rape all the citzens&#8217; CPF accounts, an unlimited source of free or cheap funds with which they can play Warren Buffet or George Soros, as well as gain an immense clout and &#8220;weight&#8221; [as recently admitted by a PAP Minister] in international affairs, the PAP is determined to keep 85% of the people in HDB flats, simply by making it too expensive for them to buy private condos and landed property, through a variety of land development charges, high price land sales, and other taxes.</p>
<p>4.  However, this may now be time to copy the Hongkong idea.  Firstly, HDB prices have gotten so ridiculous [75% pa increase over 4 months being normal -- and unknown if not for genius Mr LEONG Sze Hian], see :</p>
<p><a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/26/why-does-hdb-need-to-increase-prices-of-flats-so-rapidly/#more-503" rel="nofollow">http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/09/26/why-does-hdb-need-to-increase-prices-of-flats-so-rapidly/#more-503</a></p>
<p>RH:  &#8230; that there is now opened a niche market for private condo developers to develop Hongkong style no-frills condos THAT CAN COMPETE DIRECTLY WITH THE HDB, DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR, SQ METRE BY SQ METRE.</p>
<p>5.  Simply by not having huge swimming pools, tennis and squash courts, karaoke rooms, billiard room, barbecue pits, gym, etc, or having just small and cheap things like the gym, etc, condo developers can reduce the price of each flat dramatically, thus gaining a new market from those currently only able to buy say, 4 and 5 room HDB flats.  I have lived here 7 years and have hardly used the swimming pools and never the billiard, tennis, squash, karaoke, function, rooms, etc, and I don&#8217;t miss anything.  So, many frills are actually little used by the vast majority.</p>
<p>6.  No frills will also lower maintenance fees dramatically.  Currently, the 5 blocks in my condo require over 30 security guards for 24/7 patrols and duties, plus many cleaners and gardeners to keep the estate neat and landscaped.  Plus a condo manager and a few staff in a small office.  Most of these can be done away with.  Probably, all you need in a no-frills condo are half a dozen security guards and a few cleaners.  And maybe just 1 condo manager/staff to keep an eye on things.  Volunteers from the residents can also help manage the condo in a residents committee.  Thus, it can be very affordable.</p>
<p>7.  I believe that there is now a market for these no-frills condos.  Go to Hongkong and see how they do it.  Hongkong developers with the experience can also look at Singapore to see if they can do it here.  The PAP will fight back with more dirty tactics and tricks as usual.  But despite these, I think there is a huge untapped market.  MAY I ALSO ADD THAT THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HONGKONG AND SINGAPORE IS THAT &#8220;HONGKONG SOLVES ITS PROBLEMS WHILE SINGAPORE HIDES ITS&#8221;.  There, my good deed for the day.<br />
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		<title>By: Daily SG: 2 Oct 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daily SG: 2 Oct 2007 &#171; The Singapore Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daily Discourse - My Singapore News: Should the people save? - The Online Citizen: Uniquely Singapore, F1 or F9: “Residents willing to pay more for service and conservancy”? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Daily Discourse &#8211; My Singapore News: Should the people save? &#8211; The Online Citizen: Uniquely Singapore, F1 or F9: “Residents willing to pay more for service and conservancy”? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: James Chia</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Chia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone feel our towns are getting dirtier these days? I stay in Hong Kah GRC and I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the same case as in other GRCs. My place is full of cockroaches, litter, and even my lift has a permanent foul smell. If they ask for an extra $10 in service and conservancy fees in my area, I would not agree unless they really clean up the place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone feel our towns are getting dirtier these days? I stay in Hong Kah GRC and I don&#8217;t know if it&#8217;s the same case as in other GRCs. My place is full of cockroaches, litter, and even my lift has a permanent foul smell. If they ask for an extra $10 in service and conservancy fees in my area, I would not agree unless they really clean up the place.</p>
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