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By: OO

OO — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:51:05 +0000

Robert, the entire SDP slate of speakers were attacking WP and SDA. On the contrary, their words against PAP were not so harsh. Chee even wanted to work with PAP’s election department.

Naturally, you should expect a lot of opposition supporters (READ ANTI-PAP) to retaliate. It is ironic that the self-claimed real opposition and most confrontational held a forum like a PAP one.

Chee has the cheek to reach out to other opposition parties after ousting Chiam. And reaching out to WP after his SDP minions openly criticized Sylvia Lim at the IBA conference over her remark that was no reference to them. On the contrary, no other opposition has ever breathed a word on SDP after all his criticisms. Either they are not bothered with him or are more focused on their main enemy PAP.

By: No PAP

No PAP — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:57:02 +0000

Dear Robert, there’s no PAP apologists around. PAP apologists were seen in that forum. I heard nothing on the evil the PAP has done, instead the whole time was spent bashing opposition parties. I also see someone who said he will quit reading this website but is still here.

By: Robert HO

Robert HO — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:05:40 +0000

RH: Wow! The PAP anonymous apologists are out in force here. So many comments hewing the PAP line. Obvious, isn’t it? Maybe we need to do some self-censorship like the PAP media and censor all these…

By: Fairenough

Fairenough — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:28:29 +0000

It is not wrong of Chia Ti Lik to say that because he has resigned. He probably saw something in PAP and WP he didn’t like – not that I agree with him.

The bigger issue is, either he didn’t do his homework before joining these parties or is someone who lacks judgement. Therefore, I don’t trust his now-positive judgement of SDP – it could become negative in future.

By: Cool Head

Cool Head — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:03:37 +0000

it is ridiculous for Chia Ti Lik to accuse opposition parties of being “pap approved” and what not. Wasn’t Chia Ti Lik himself a “PAP apologist” in the past? He was a PAP member, right? And wasn’t he also a member of the “PAP approved opposition” as well? He was a WP member too.

I think the problem with opposition is people like Chia Ti Lik. When things don’t go their way, they start blaming everyone else, including fellow opposition. Just like SDP blame everyone and everything.

No wonder no opposition turn up for the forum.

By: Martin Lurther

Martin Lurther — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:45:53 +0000

some survey(dunno how reliable) quoted by our unreliable Straits Times claim most Singaporeans consider our elections fair.

however given the fact that PAP is able to garner at least 66% each election for the last 40 years, nobody can dispute the fact that majority of Singaporeans are not overly unsatisfied with the elections. they may or may not be satisfied but their level of unsatisfaction, if it should exist, is not significant enough to compel them to boycott the elections or not vote for PAP…

in Hong Kong though a SAR of China, it is still under the prospects of facing severe reaction from China should the Hong Kongers act in any disfavourable manner to China. yet thousands take to the streets to protest. to the Hong Kongers its an ISSUE.

it remains clear that majority of Singaporeans by and large dont really care about issues such as election fairness, freedom etc. maybe they did about 50 years ago… today its about the material aspects of life that Singaporeans care about… they will only be grossly unhappy enough to protest if you dont deliver Hello Kitty fast in the Macdonald’s queues or if your free textbooks giveaway events are too congested…

By: ProSG

ProSG — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 05:07:52 +0000

Tell me which oppositionist did not open their mouths. Looks like some opposition without seats are very jealous of those who have them.

By: Daily SG: 21 Jan 08 « The Singapore Daily

Daily SG: 21 Jan 08 « The Singapore Daily — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:36:21 +0000

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By: talkcocking

talkcocking — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:21:08 +0000

Sometimes, hash words may be good for some oppositionists, so that they have no choice but to get out of their comfort zones and start opening their mouths. Post their comments on the internet anytime if the main stream media won’t report them – I don’t really hear much noise even with their Parliamentary immunity.

By: JDread

JDread — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:02:06 +0000

Why care if PAP is comfortable with some opposition if they don’t believe in seeking PAP’s endorsement, unless this endorsement is what they want too? It is not what opposition asked for approval or asked to be comfortable. Engage the PMO and the Elections Department? That is like seeking PAP’s endorsement right?