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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The president I refer to is
Ong Teng Cheong. He should be called the true leader of Singapore, not the pathetic counterpart that forces media and books to portray him as hero.
http://www.singapore-window.org/sw99/90730aw.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The president I refer to is<br />
Ong Teng Cheong. He should be called the true leader of Singapore, not the pathetic counterpart that forces media and books to portray him as hero.<br />
<a href="http://www.singapore-window.org/sw99/90730aw.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.singapore-window.org/sw99/90730aw.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Surpluses from previous years cannot be touched because they can only be used for investments?&quot;

The kind of excuses and lame reasons given is what make our venerable ex-president angst over PAP government when he uncovered something wrong on the accounting and he demand more power to president.

Does most of annual surplus actually quickly go into Temasek and GLC&#039;s fund so that a budget deficit can be quickly announced to create more surplus ? Remember what goes into those investment fund is government&#039;s secret. If the government ever get dismantled, we can find how &#039;honest&#039; and &#039;credible&#039; our so-called &#039;esteem&#039; government is. Definitely smell a scandal even larger than Edison Chen.

So how is the hell that such a important terrorist can escape given that he is limp ? Does that not coincide with commotion by the public asking for accountability on the GST hike ? Is this merely distraction to &#039;move on&#039; to the topics of capturing the terrorist ?

We can&#039;t help but smell a dead rat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Surpluses from previous years cannot be touched because they can only be used for investments?&#8221;</p>
<p>The kind of excuses and lame reasons given is what make our venerable ex-president angst over PAP government when he uncovered something wrong on the accounting and he demand more power to president.</p>
<p>Does most of annual surplus actually quickly go into Temasek and GLC&#8217;s fund so that a budget deficit can be quickly announced to create more surplus ? Remember what goes into those investment fund is government&#8217;s secret. If the government ever get dismantled, we can find how &#8216;honest&#8217; and &#8216;credible&#8217; our so-called &#8216;esteem&#8217; government is. Definitely smell a scandal even larger than Edison Chen.</p>
<p>So how is the hell that such a important terrorist can escape given that he is limp ? Does that not coincide with commotion by the public asking for accountability on the GST hike ? Is this merely distraction to &#8216;move on&#8217; to the topics of capturing the terrorist ?</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t help but smell a dead rat.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do think about all these events carefully when you next vote. I am personlly not pleased with the high-handness of how our government conducts itself and talk down to the people, telling us how lucky we are to have such a good government like them. HK is a clear example that you need not pay high salaries to get good people to serve the country and their willingness to admit their oversight in budget estimates will only win the hearts of its people. Well at least I have no regrets in NOT VOTING for Lee Hisen Loong when he was out there in AMK MRT shaking people&#039;s hands in the last GE.

Back then, my folks asked me how come you never vote for PM Lee, i replied that parliament has been dissolved and Lee Hisen Loong is NOT Prime Minister until his party wins the majority and forms the next government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do think about all these events carefully when you next vote. I am personlly not pleased with the high-handness of how our government conducts itself and talk down to the people, telling us how lucky we are to have such a good government like them. HK is a clear example that you need not pay high salaries to get good people to serve the country and their willingness to admit their oversight in budget estimates will only win the hearts of its people. Well at least I have no regrets in NOT VOTING for Lee Hisen Loong when he was out there in AMK MRT shaking people&#8217;s hands in the last GE.</p>
<p>Back then, my folks asked me how come you never vote for PM Lee, i replied that parliament has been dissolved and Lee Hisen Loong is NOT Prime Minister until his party wins the majority and forms the next government.</p>
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		<title>By: Expected Analysis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expected Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those that are full of praise for the govt&#039;s budget are simply naive and out of touch with reality. The contentious issue here is the timing and necessity to raise the 2% GST.

It was MADE CLEAR that it was not necessary. &quot;We have to increase the GST when the economy is doing well rather than wait till bad times. The increase was meant to help the lower income group.&quot;

Therefore, in order to help the lower income group, govt must tax Singaporeans unnecessarily to fund the welfare programmes?

Surpluses from previous years cannot be touched because they can only be used for investments?

Returns from investments are used for further investments perpetually and therefore, non-returnable?

For which generation of Singaporeans are these investments suppose to cater for?

Accumulate more surpluses at Singaporeans&#039; expense in order to make the govt look good, justify the ministers&#039; astronomical pay and at the same time, rewarding them with fat bonuses for the &quot;unexpected&quot; collections?

Freeze govt fees till end of 2008 when most if not all have been increased?

Those MPs who were full of praises are simply gunning for higher office. If ever any of them gets promoted, Singaporeans will really have to dig their own graves.

Govt&#039;s help policy is to help lower income Singaporeans to their graves earlier.

Imagine a helpless man struggling in the water. A nearby lifeguard saw him but stay put in his position. The man shouted, &quot;Help! Help! I can&#039;t swim! Help.................&quot; The lifeguard replied, &quot;Learn to swim! I&#039;ll come to you only when you really can&#039;t!&quot;

&quot;人快饿死了才问人饿吗！”
(To ask whether one is hungry when one is dying from hunger!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those that are full of praise for the govt&#8217;s budget are simply naive and out of touch with reality. The contentious issue here is the timing and necessity to raise the 2% GST.</p>
<p>It was MADE CLEAR that it was not necessary. &#8220;We have to increase the GST when the economy is doing well rather than wait till bad times. The increase was meant to help the lower income group.&#8221;</p>
<p>Therefore, in order to help the lower income group, govt must tax Singaporeans unnecessarily to fund the welfare programmes?</p>
<p>Surpluses from previous years cannot be touched because they can only be used for investments?</p>
<p>Returns from investments are used for further investments perpetually and therefore, non-returnable?</p>
<p>For which generation of Singaporeans are these investments suppose to cater for?</p>
<p>Accumulate more surpluses at Singaporeans&#8217; expense in order to make the govt look good, justify the ministers&#8217; astronomical pay and at the same time, rewarding them with fat bonuses for the &#8220;unexpected&#8221; collections?</p>
<p>Freeze govt fees till end of 2008 when most if not all have been increased?</p>
<p>Those MPs who were full of praises are simply gunning for higher office. If ever any of them gets promoted, Singaporeans will really have to dig their own graves.</p>
<p>Govt&#8217;s help policy is to help lower income Singaporeans to their graves earlier.</p>
<p>Imagine a helpless man struggling in the water. A nearby lifeguard saw him but stay put in his position. The man shouted, &#8220;Help! Help! I can&#8217;t swim! Help&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#8221; The lifeguard replied, &#8220;Learn to swim! I&#8217;ll come to you only when you really can&#8217;t!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;人快饿死了才问人饿吗！”<br />
(To ask whether one is hungry when one is dying from hunger!)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Syed Alwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Syed Alwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singaporeans deserve this Government ! You either have the courage to stand up for your rights or else forever hold your peace. As for elections - well the system is rigged. GRC&#039;s, walkovers and other tricks ensure victory for you-know-who.

For me - I admit that I am too scared to protest. But I know that Chee Soon Juan has the guts...so he has my vote !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singaporeans deserve this Government ! You either have the courage to stand up for your rights or else forever hold your peace. As for elections &#8211; well the system is rigged. GRC&#8217;s, walkovers and other tricks ensure victory for you-know-who.</p>
<p>For me &#8211; I admit that I am too scared to protest. But I know that Chee Soon Juan has the guts&#8230;so he has my vote !</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
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		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 03:38:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just wondering...i live in HK now, and am wondering whether any of the papers in Singapore carry any news about HK&#039;s budget?

HK just announced its budget yesterday. even during the buildup, the HK govt admitted that they miscalculated their budget, and had a surplus. They immediately talked about what they will do to spend the surplus - on welfare, on public works, schools, etc...and the public (such as unions, NGOs etc) were called to comment and give feedback.

And yesterday&#039;s final budget was welcomed by everyone - from businesses, to the working class. Because the govt has a lot of money, it is giving tax breaks on nearly every sector (eg hotels), more welfare checks, SMB funds, electricity subsidies, one-off income tax rebates. They are even eliminating alcohol tax except for spirits!!

The most important thing - i like the way the HK govt owns up to its mistake in underestimating their income, and prepared to spend it back into the city, and how they consult NGOs, academics, unions, etc, on where they should spend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering&#8230;i live in HK now, and am wondering whether any of the papers in Singapore carry any news about HK&#8217;s budget?</p>
<p>HK just announced its budget yesterday. even during the buildup, the HK govt admitted that they miscalculated their budget, and had a surplus. They immediately talked about what they will do to spend the surplus &#8211; on welfare, on public works, schools, etc&#8230;and the public (such as unions, NGOs etc) were called to comment and give feedback.</p>
<p>And yesterday&#8217;s final budget was welcomed by everyone &#8211; from businesses, to the working class. Because the govt has a lot of money, it is giving tax breaks on nearly every sector (eg hotels), more welfare checks, SMB funds, electricity subsidies, one-off income tax rebates. They are even eliminating alcohol tax except for spirits!!</p>
<p>The most important thing &#8211; i like the way the HK govt owns up to its mistake in underestimating their income, and prepared to spend it back into the city, and how they consult NGOs, academics, unions, etc, on where they should spend.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What the government could do and should do with the “surplus” is to give the entire $1.4 billion back to Singaporeans, and not only “60 cents of every extra dollar it collected from the GST hike.” With a “surplus” of $6.45 billion, it would still have $5 billion in its coffers.&lt;/em&gt;

This is a very reasonable suggestion, Andrew. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What the government could do and should do with the “surplus” is to give the entire $1.4 billion back to Singaporeans, and not only “60 cents of every extra dollar it collected from the GST hike.” With a “surplus” of $6.45 billion, it would still have $5 billion in its coffers.</em></p>
<p>This is a very reasonable suggestion, Andrew. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 01:30:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ronin,

When you talked about that WP by Ng, my temper flared because LHL said those items, government can&#039;t control, so the statement by Ng and LHL contradicts.

Million dollar ministers like LHL and Ng talked without using brain. If this year is the GE, I think PAP will get 54% down from 66.6%, Our opposition parties should be more proactive like the opposition in our neighbour Malaysia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ronin,</p>
<p>When you talked about that WP by Ng, my temper flared because LHL said those items, government can&#8217;t control, so the statement by Ng and LHL contradicts.</p>
<p>Million dollar ministers like LHL and Ng talked without using brain. If this year is the GE, I think PAP will get 54% down from 66.6%, Our opposition parties should be more proactive like the opposition in our neighbour Malaysia.</p>
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		<title>By: Mig29</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mig29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PZ said:
&quot;And I don’t think that calculating the revenues for these kind of things is easy either. If change in consumption patterns from the rise in GST do not fit that of the government’s expectations, does that mean they’re DIRTY FILTHY LIARS? How often are these estimates, even in other countries, correct anyway?&quot;

When you are so off the mark in your estimates, it speaks of a couple of possible things:
1) You are a bunch of dirty filthy liars
2) You are not lying but incompetent
3) Both

It is precisely of people like you that there is an exodus of talented singaporeans from the country every year. I say good luck to such people, people who dig themselves a hole and fall into it while the rest of us laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PZ said:<br />
&#8220;And I don’t think that calculating the revenues for these kind of things is easy either. If change in consumption patterns from the rise in GST do not fit that of the government’s expectations, does that mean they’re DIRTY FILTHY LIARS? How often are these estimates, even in other countries, correct anyway?&#8221;</p>
<p>When you are so off the mark in your estimates, it speaks of a couple of possible things:<br />
1) You are a bunch of dirty filthy liars<br />
2) You are not lying but incompetent<br />
3) Both</p>
<p>It is precisely of people like you that there is an exodus of talented singaporeans from the country every year. I say good luck to such people, people who dig themselves a hole and fall into it while the rest of us laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: ronin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ronin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is a Wayang Party, WP, not Workers&#039; Party...Do they have solutions? Can they bring the price of oil down? Can they stop factories from pulling out of Singapore and find you jobs? Can they bring down the price of rice, a loaf of bread, a cup of coffee? &quot;

by Dr Ng Eng Hen
3rd May 2006, Channel NewsAsia
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Can Dr Ng please bring down the price of oil, bring down the price of rice, bring down the price of a loaf of bread, and bring down the price of a cup of coffee NOW???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is a Wayang Party, WP, not Workers&#8217; Party&#8230;Do they have solutions? Can they bring the price of oil down? Can they stop factories from pulling out of Singapore and find you jobs? Can they bring down the price of rice, a loaf of bread, a cup of coffee? &#8221;</p>
<p>by Dr Ng Eng Hen<br />
3rd May 2006, Channel NewsAsia<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Can Dr Ng please bring down the price of oil, bring down the price of rice, bring down the price of a loaf of bread, and bring down the price of a cup of coffee NOW???</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PZ,

As I said in the article, no one expects the govt - or anyone - to be perfect in their forecasts. But as I also said, when forecasts are so way off the mark, as in this case, the govt should admit their shortcoming and accept their responsibility. Note that the budget deficit/surplus forecast is not the only forecast which is way off the mark.

Indeed, Mr Tharman in Parliament today has given the undertaking that his ministry will be more accurate in its projections in future.

As for Temasek and GIC&#039;s investments, in my view, it is a matter of priorities. It is no use spending so much - more than $34 billion within a single year - on so-called investments when citizens are struggling.

Further, the success of such investments are doubtful and even if they are to reap profits, it will take a long time. Didn&#039;t both Temasek and the GIC say that these are &quot;long term&quot; investments? What happens to the poor and struggling in the meantime? More GST hikes so that they can be helped?

&lt;strong&gt;FYI:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/27Feb2008_biz42.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Shin profits plummet by 72% for 2007&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PZ,</p>
<p>As I said in the article, no one expects the govt &#8211; or anyone &#8211; to be perfect in their forecasts. But as I also said, when forecasts are so way off the mark, as in this case, the govt should admit their shortcoming and accept their responsibility. Note that the budget deficit/surplus forecast is not the only forecast which is way off the mark.</p>
<p>Indeed, Mr Tharman in Parliament today has given the undertaking that his ministry will be more accurate in its projections in future.</p>
<p>As for Temasek and GIC&#8217;s investments, in my view, it is a matter of priorities. It is no use spending so much &#8211; more than $34 billion within a single year &#8211; on so-called investments when citizens are struggling.</p>
<p>Further, the success of such investments are doubtful and even if they are to reap profits, it will take a long time. Didn&#8217;t both Temasek and the GIC say that these are &#8220;long term&#8221; investments? What happens to the poor and struggling in the meantime? More GST hikes so that they can be helped?</p>
<p><strong>FYI:</strong> <a href="http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/27Feb2008_biz42.php" rel="nofollow">Shin profits plummet by 72% for 2007</a></p>
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		<title>By: freedom lovin Singaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>freedom lovin Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it has, by now or long ago, become/been clear that since PAP&#039;s departure from its early socialist policies in the earlier decades, the new agenda of PAP since 90s has been that of neo-classical economics.

by this agenda, the person who is of value add to economic growth policies, will survive and prosper whereas the person who is of little or no value to economic growth policies will suffer and wither.

singaporeans obviously know this but do not care much at the ballot. that is why the government can undertake any form of risky or painful or radical or extreme economic growth policies. stop blaming the PAP for this. what singaporeans care when they vote for PAP is that beyond whatever ills that PAP&#039;s policies may bring, they believe there is an eventual goodness for themselves and the country.

as long as Singaporeans have this faith, they will continue to vote for PAP and PAP itself will continue its neo-classical economic programs which will include uncontrolled price increases, instability in wages, inequalities in income, adverse income redistribution, minimal labour protection etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it has, by now or long ago, become/been clear that since PAP&#8217;s departure from its early socialist policies in the earlier decades, the new agenda of PAP since 90s has been that of neo-classical economics.</p>
<p>by this agenda, the person who is of value add to economic growth policies, will survive and prosper whereas the person who is of little or no value to economic growth policies will suffer and wither.</p>
<p>singaporeans obviously know this but do not care much at the ballot. that is why the government can undertake any form of risky or painful or radical or extreme economic growth policies. stop blaming the PAP for this. what singaporeans care when they vote for PAP is that beyond whatever ills that PAP&#8217;s policies may bring, they believe there is an eventual goodness for themselves and the country.</p>
<p>as long as Singaporeans have this faith, they will continue to vote for PAP and PAP itself will continue its neo-classical economic programs which will include uncontrolled price increases, instability in wages, inequalities in income, adverse income redistribution, minimal labour protection etc</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s face it, even the surplus of $6.4 billions excess is to hard to believe consider that this government is known to use creative accounting in any way they like without transparency. Dig it hard, and I won&#039;t be surprised to find more than $10 billions in excess.

Is government stupid to reveal such figure knowing that it will create commotion ? Nope, they probably need to but play it conservatively. Until all their accounts are subjected to public scrutiny, none of coffers, especially self-elected audit body can be trusted to tell the truth.

In the past, figure such as taxi salary can be quoted publicly by minister and exaggerated without deducting the expense, so how trustworthy can the government&#039;s statistic and figures be behind closed doors and walls ?

Just moment ago, I am totally appalled too by the news on how the Hong Kong government return the surplus to the people of Hong Kong, and setup scheme to really help the poor without increasing GST or any cost. I hope that someone will post what the Hong Kong government has done to help the poor. One thing is very sure. The HK government neither say that giving too much wellfare will bleed crude mentality nor did they say the surplus should reserved for sovereign wealth fund to help ailing bank and rainy day. That a different between a true democratic country and a fake one.

Contrast and compare to that of HK government to Singapore government is akin to comparing harvested mango to a long-rotten apple. We really need to compare that to shame our very expensive and arrogant government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it, even the surplus of $6.4 billions excess is to hard to believe consider that this government is known to use creative accounting in any way they like without transparency. Dig it hard, and I won&#8217;t be surprised to find more than $10 billions in excess.</p>
<p>Is government stupid to reveal such figure knowing that it will create commotion ? Nope, they probably need to but play it conservatively. Until all their accounts are subjected to public scrutiny, none of coffers, especially self-elected audit body can be trusted to tell the truth.</p>
<p>In the past, figure such as taxi salary can be quoted publicly by minister and exaggerated without deducting the expense, so how trustworthy can the government&#8217;s statistic and figures be behind closed doors and walls ?</p>
<p>Just moment ago, I am totally appalled too by the news on how the Hong Kong government return the surplus to the people of Hong Kong, and setup scheme to really help the poor without increasing GST or any cost. I hope that someone will post what the Hong Kong government has done to help the poor. One thing is very sure. The HK government neither say that giving too much wellfare will bleed crude mentality nor did they say the surplus should reserved for sovereign wealth fund to help ailing bank and rainy day. That a different between a true democratic country and a fake one.</p>
<p>Contrast and compare to that of HK government to Singapore government is akin to comparing harvested mango to a long-rotten apple. We really need to compare that to shame our very expensive and arrogant government.</p>
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		<title>By: PZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it the discrepancies to be at least partly the government&#039;s intentional underestimation of our economy so that when the figures come out, we exceed expectations. Nothing really wrong with that.

And I don&#039;t think that calculating the revenues for these kind of things is easy either. If change in consumption patterns from the rise in GST do not fit that of the government&#039;s expectations, does that mean they&#039;re DIRTY FILTHY LIARS? How often are these estimates, even in other countries, correct anyway?

Thirdly, go back to economics. A surplus is a withdrawal from the flow of the economy. This means there is a disinflationary effect.

&quot;One last note: I find it really insensitive for the prime minister to be asking Singaporeans to, effectively, scrimp and save by buying non-branded bread and cheaper frozen food, while the government’s investment arms of Temasek and the GIC spend billions on bailing out ailing foreign banks.&quot;

And aren&#039;t these investment banks working to contribute to our country&#039;s capital/reserves? So what, because some Singaporeans are having trouble coping with the rising gst/prices, these two investment arms should stop all their normal investment activity? No link, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it the discrepancies to be at least partly the government&#8217;s intentional underestimation of our economy so that when the figures come out, we exceed expectations. Nothing really wrong with that.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t think that calculating the revenues for these kind of things is easy either. If change in consumption patterns from the rise in GST do not fit that of the government&#8217;s expectations, does that mean they&#8217;re DIRTY FILTHY LIARS? How often are these estimates, even in other countries, correct anyway?</p>
<p>Thirdly, go back to economics. A surplus is a withdrawal from the flow of the economy. This means there is a disinflationary effect.</p>
<p>&#8220;One last note: I find it really insensitive for the prime minister to be asking Singaporeans to, effectively, scrimp and save by buying non-branded bread and cheaper frozen food, while the government’s investment arms of Temasek and the GIC spend billions on bailing out ailing foreign banks.&#8221;</p>
<p>And aren&#8217;t these investment banks working to contribute to our country&#8217;s capital/reserves? So what, because some Singaporeans are having trouble coping with the rising gst/prices, these two investment arms should stop all their normal investment activity? No link, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: match stick man</title>
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		<dc:creator>match stick man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very nice article. And well researched.

Good job!!

I like reading political news from around the world, and I&#039;ve never heard a head of government tell his citizens what bread to eat. This is pathetic. Beyond pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very nice article. And well researched.</p>
<p>Good job!!</p>
<p>I like reading political news from around the world, and I&#8217;ve never heard a head of government tell his citizens what bread to eat. This is pathetic. Beyond pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: AY</title>
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		<dc:creator>AY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just vote them out - bunch of too highly educated but stupid morons in white!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just vote them out &#8211; bunch of too highly educated but stupid morons in white!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sevenleleven</title>
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		<dc:creator>sevenleleven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you have include the 33% pay increased immediately after the GST increased and deducted those as expenses, the figures are way higher then the 6.4b. Notice the generosity they had for themselves and to trumpet about the mere hundreds given out as &quot;WELFARE&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you have include the 33% pay increased immediately after the GST increased and deducted those as expenses, the figures are way higher then the 6.4b. Notice the generosity they had for themselves and to trumpet about the mere hundreds given out as &#8220;WELFARE&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sze Hian,

The just-announced freeze on govt fees this year also repeats what they said last year:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;Mr Tharman, who was wrapping up the debate on the Budget Statement, said regulatory charges such as those in the transport sector and the development charges in the property market will not be frozen.

This is because they must continue to serve the purpose of regulating demand.

Similarly, the freeze has not applied to fees charged by non-government entities such as the universities, restructured hospitals and town councils.

He explained this is because they have to make their own decisions on whether or not they will raise fees.&quot;&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/331406/1/.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(CNA)&lt;/a&gt;

So, it&#039;s the same thing - essentials and necessities&#039; fees are not freezed.

Best part is this:

&lt;b&gt;&quot;However, Mr Tharman acknowledged the concerns many Singaporeans continue to have on rising costs, and he urged the town councils to consider holding their Service and Conservancy Charges unchanged for this year.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

I am truly appalled that the PAP town councils would even contemplate raising S&amp;C charges. Didn&#039;t we just learned that they have &lt;a href=&quot;http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/03/1-billion-in-town-council-funds-whatre-they-used-for/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN RESERVES&lt;/a&gt; ???

Looks like helping Singaporeans is all a wayang. I am very very disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sze Hian,</p>
<p>The just-announced freeze on govt fees this year also repeats what they said last year:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;Mr Tharman, who was wrapping up the debate on the Budget Statement, said regulatory charges such as those in the transport sector and the development charges in the property market will not be frozen.</p>
<p>This is because they must continue to serve the purpose of regulating demand.</p>
<p>Similarly, the freeze has not applied to fees charged by non-government entities such as the universities, restructured hospitals and town councils.</p>
<p>He explained this is because they have to make their own decisions on whether or not they will raise fees.&#8221;</b> <a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/331406/1/.html" rel="nofollow">(CNA)</a></p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s the same thing &#8211; essentials and necessities&#8217; fees are not freezed.</p>
<p>Best part is this:</p>
<p><b>&#8220;However, Mr Tharman acknowledged the concerns many Singaporeans continue to have on rising costs, and he urged the town councils to consider holding their Service and Conservancy Charges unchanged for this year.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>I am truly appalled that the PAP town councils would even contemplate raising S&amp;C charges. Didn&#8217;t we just learned that they have <a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/12/03/1-billion-in-town-council-funds-whatre-they-used-for/" rel="nofollow">OVER ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN RESERVES</a> ???</p>
<p>Looks like helping Singaporeans is all a wayang. I am very very disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freezefees for basic amenities
Business Times, The (Singapore) - December 14, 2006
I REFER to media reports that the government has spelt out the fees to be frozen for one year after the Goods and Services Tax (GST) hike, in fulfilment of its pledge to offset the burden of higher GST.

Fees not set by the government are excluded from the list as any changes are determined by market or other forces.

These include utilities charges, polyclinic and hospital charges, phone bills, university fees , HDB flat prices, foreign maid levy, vehicle and road taxes, and service and conservancy fees .

I find it somewhat puzzling that the excluded list includes polyclinic and hospital fees , foreign maid levy, vehicle and road taxes, and HDB flat prices.

Are these not under the ministries of health, manpower, transport and national development, respectively?

Have these fees not always been set by the ministries concerned?

How have &#039;market forces&#039; ever been the determinant of such fees ?

Can we have some elaboration as to what are the &#039;other forces&#039; that determine these fees ?

I find it quite disappointing that most of the fees that will be frozen are not those for basic amenities, and those not frozen are mainly basic necessities which may impact the lower and middle-income more, like polyclinic and hospital charges, university fees , public transport cost, water and electricity bills, telecoms bills, foreign maid levy, etc.

The explanation that service and conservancy fees are not frozen because these are decided by town councils, is a somewhat weak rationalisation, because aren&#039;t town councils, particularly the GRCs, headed by several Members of Parliament?

Since there are only two opposition MPs, isn&#039;t all the rest part of the government? LeongSzeHian Singapore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freezefees for basic amenities<br />
Business Times, The (Singapore) &#8211; December 14, 2006<br />
I REFER to media reports that the government has spelt out the fees to be frozen for one year after the Goods and Services Tax (GST) hike, in fulfilment of its pledge to offset the burden of higher GST.</p>
<p>Fees not set by the government are excluded from the list as any changes are determined by market or other forces.</p>
<p>These include utilities charges, polyclinic and hospital charges, phone bills, university fees , HDB flat prices, foreign maid levy, vehicle and road taxes, and service and conservancy fees .</p>
<p>I find it somewhat puzzling that the excluded list includes polyclinic and hospital fees , foreign maid levy, vehicle and road taxes, and HDB flat prices.</p>
<p>Are these not under the ministries of health, manpower, transport and national development, respectively?</p>
<p>Have these fees not always been set by the ministries concerned?</p>
<p>How have &#8216;market forces&#8217; ever been the determinant of such fees ?</p>
<p>Can we have some elaboration as to what are the &#8216;other forces&#8217; that determine these fees ?</p>
<p>I find it quite disappointing that most of the fees that will be frozen are not those for basic amenities, and those not frozen are mainly basic necessities which may impact the lower and middle-income more, like polyclinic and hospital charges, university fees , public transport cost, water and electricity bills, telecoms bills, foreign maid levy, etc.</p>
<p>The explanation that service and conservancy fees are not frozen because these are decided by town councils, is a somewhat weak rationalisation, because aren&#8217;t town councils, particularly the GRCs, headed by several Members of Parliament?</p>
<p>Since there are only two opposition MPs, isn&#8217;t all the rest part of the government? LeongSzeHian Singapore</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 09:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should demand answer from the original Finance Minister, LHL, not Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam.

Overall, I find Tharman among the better ministers who still contributes greatly to society of Singapore, and I did see improvement in education when he is still education minister. Unfortunately, it obviously, in this case, he is made as scrapegoat by the former Finance Minister aka PM.

Tharman is only been appointed finance minister in December 2007, so before that, LHL had already approved GST hike, and minister&#039;s pay, and hike is underway.
http://www.pmo.gov.sg/News/Appointment+of+Minister+Tharman+as+Finance+Minister.htm

As usual, LHL should be responsible and not just throw his own inflicted problem to his &#039;successor&#039; to escape the responsibility and accountability.

It is not the first time this PM get away, and with many a time asking his own surbordinates to resolve and speak on his behalf. As usual, I won&#039;t be surprised to see the grand-daddy of Singapore,LKY, defending the hike for his son and says &#039;Let&#039;s move on&#039;.
It is the standard Operation Procedure for government that every Singaporean get used to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should demand answer from the original Finance Minister, LHL, not Mr Tharman Shanmugaratnam.</p>
<p>Overall, I find Tharman among the better ministers who still contributes greatly to society of Singapore, and I did see improvement in education when he is still education minister. Unfortunately, it obviously, in this case, he is made as scrapegoat by the former Finance Minister aka PM.</p>
<p>Tharman is only been appointed finance minister in December 2007, so before that, LHL had already approved GST hike, and minister&#8217;s pay, and hike is underway.<br />
<a href="http://www.pmo.gov.sg/News/Appointment+of+Minister+Tharman+as+Finance+Minister.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pmo.gov.sg/News/Appointment+of+Minister+Tharman+as+Finance+Minister.htm</a></p>
<p>As usual, LHL should be responsible and not just throw his own inflicted problem to his &#8217;successor&#8217; to escape the responsibility and accountability.</p>
<p>It is not the first time this PM get away, and with many a time asking his own surbordinates to resolve and speak on his behalf. As usual, I won&#8217;t be surprised to see the grand-daddy of Singapore,LKY, defending the hike for his son and says &#8216;Let&#8217;s move on&#8217;.<br />
It is the standard Operation Procedure for government that every Singaporean get used to.</p>
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