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		<title>By: ganchau</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/03/an-old-man-and-his-tin-can-vases/comment-page-1/#comment-5619</link>
		<dc:creator>ganchau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 00:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Very creative!  Will walk over there from my home one day and buy four  vases from him as gifts for overseas friends.  What a good souvenir to give away - one that reminds our guests of our creativity, resourcefulness and never-say-die attitude, qualitites that make Singapore what she is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Very creative!  Will walk over there from my home one day and buy four  vases from him as gifts for overseas friends.  What a good souvenir to give away &#8211; one that reminds our guests of our creativity, resourcefulness and never-say-die attitude, qualitites that make Singapore what she is today.</p>
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		<title>By: MinsterMental</title>
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		<dc:creator>MinsterMental</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff, its kinda of sad to watch pretty woman five times over the same channel, and watch some fool introduce eating places and how the rich are living the high life.

The local news papers are out of this world living in a fiction factory kinda of mode where fairy tales are conjured up for the masses.

Its really refreshing to read up on agree with what is actually going on in Singapore. (The truth is sweet!)

I guess, if you want the truth, you got to seek it..... and you aint gonna find it in our news papers.

The internet, blogs and forums are the place to be for information.

News papers are the thing of the past laced with fairy tales and happy endings.

Every MP should know who needs aid in his area and go forward to provide them with the assistance.

I believe they have never worked in a MNC before where we are told to be PRO active and not reactive.

Setting up commitees and coming up with new slogans is a thing of the past. Dont think it will work in this day and age.

Ever wondered why we need to pay TV licence when we are not the ones broadcasting ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff, its kinda of sad to watch pretty woman five times over the same channel, and watch some fool introduce eating places and how the rich are living the high life.</p>
<p>The local news papers are out of this world living in a fiction factory kinda of mode where fairy tales are conjured up for the masses.</p>
<p>Its really refreshing to read up on agree with what is actually going on in Singapore. (The truth is sweet!)</p>
<p>I guess, if you want the truth, you got to seek it&#8230;.. and you aint gonna find it in our news papers.</p>
<p>The internet, blogs and forums are the place to be for information.</p>
<p>News papers are the thing of the past laced with fairy tales and happy endings.</p>
<p>Every MP should know who needs aid in his area and go forward to provide them with the assistance.</p>
<p>I believe they have never worked in a MNC before where we are told to be PRO active and not reactive.</p>
<p>Setting up commitees and coming up with new slogans is a thing of the past. Dont think it will work in this day and age.</p>
<p>Ever wondered why we need to pay TV licence when we are not the ones broadcasting ?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember Lee Kuan Yew said there are no beggers in Singapore after he visited New York City</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember Lee Kuan Yew said there are no beggers in Singapore after he visited New York City</p>
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		<title>By: aygee</title>
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		<dc:creator>aygee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 08:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan,

i remember that along with the GST increase, the govt reduced corporate tax, in line with HK&#039;s reduction as well.

then, to maintain a balanced budget, they raised the GST instead (because we cant really protest about it, can we?).

just to make it nicer to swallow, thats why they say its for the poor.

yes, now that they&#039;ve miscalculated, i really wonder how much they will really spend on the poor.

HK govt also had a surplus - but they made immediate announcements to spend on that surplus - giving tax breaks all round, spending more on practically all fronts. even completely stopped taxing wine. just to balance the budget.

But i guess u dont hear this enough in Singapore eh? i even heard the almost negligible flu outbreak affecting children here has gotten sensationalist coverage in Singapore. Either that or the terrible pollution, or Edison eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan,</p>
<p>i remember that along with the GST increase, the govt reduced corporate tax, in line with HK&#8217;s reduction as well.</p>
<p>then, to maintain a balanced budget, they raised the GST instead (because we cant really protest about it, can we?).</p>
<p>just to make it nicer to swallow, thats why they say its for the poor.</p>
<p>yes, now that they&#8217;ve miscalculated, i really wonder how much they will really spend on the poor.</p>
<p>HK govt also had a surplus &#8211; but they made immediate announcements to spend on that surplus &#8211; giving tax breaks all round, spending more on practically all fronts. even completely stopped taxing wine. just to balance the budget.</p>
<p>But i guess u dont hear this enough in Singapore eh? i even heard the almost negligible flu outbreak affecting children here has gotten sensationalist coverage in Singapore. Either that or the terrible pollution, or Edison eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 07:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan Wong, the strange thing is that the GST budget issue is not even mention in newspaper anymore since the case of Selamat.  Thank to Selamat, the government has successfully moved on on the accountability of GST surplus and everyone has forget about justification of GST hike. Is the GST budget surplus been used to bail out more banks instead ?

For people interest in life of famous dictator who was elected as spokesperson for common people but finally end up as double-standard dicator due to absolute power, take a read about life of Oliver Cromwell,

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cromwell_england.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell
http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/Exhibitions/Cromwell/cromwell.htm

This dictator lives a life very similar to LKY and his coffers. But what happen to him in the end ? His body was dug up and hung. His head is chopped off and be played like football for over century.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan Wong, the strange thing is that the GST budget issue is not even mention in newspaper anymore since the case of Selamat.  Thank to Selamat, the government has successfully moved on on the accountability of GST surplus and everyone has forget about justification of GST hike. Is the GST budget surplus been used to bail out more banks instead ?</p>
<p>For people interest in life of famous dictator who was elected as spokesperson for common people but finally end up as double-standard dicator due to absolute power, take a read about life of Oliver Cromwell,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cromwell_england.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/cromwell_england.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_Cromwell</a><br />
<a href="http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/Exhibitions/Cromwell/cromwell.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lib.cam.ac.uk/Exhibitions/Cromwell/cromwell.htm</a></p>
<p>This dictator lives a life very similar to LKY and his coffers. But what happen to him in the end ? His body was dug up and hung. His head is chopped off and be played like football for over century.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 06:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compared to our cabinet ministers,  I must say that this 80-year old man is definitely much more resilient and noble in earning his own keep.  At the very least,  he should have asked for a public assistance scheme to be pegged to 80% of the pay of the lowest 8 professions.

Sometimes I wonder whether the 2% GST increase which is collected by the Gahmen and supposedly to help the poor has in any way really help those people who are really in need or it merely adds to the coffers for the Gahmen to dispense it in any way they deem fit.

Or perhaps in reality the additional revenue collected is actually helping those who really needs the least help such as contribution to the extra pay for our talented world class Ministers.

Is there any way of finding out where the increased GST monies actually goes ?  I would be pleasantly surprised if our PAP Ministers can come out with a clear answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compared to our cabinet ministers,  I must say that this 80-year old man is definitely much more resilient and noble in earning his own keep.  At the very least,  he should have asked for a public assistance scheme to be pegged to 80% of the pay of the lowest 8 professions.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder whether the 2% GST increase which is collected by the Gahmen and supposedly to help the poor has in any way really help those people who are really in need or it merely adds to the coffers for the Gahmen to dispense it in any way they deem fit.</p>
<p>Or perhaps in reality the additional revenue collected is actually helping those who really needs the least help such as contribution to the extra pay for our talented world class Ministers.</p>
<p>Is there any way of finding out where the increased GST monies actually goes ?  I would be pleasantly surprised if our PAP Ministers can come out with a clear answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Huang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew and all,
There old men and women working around each office building as cleaners.
They do not choose to while away their twilight years sweeping floors and washing toilets.
They would have prefered to be playing with their grandchildren or chit-chatting in the coffeeshop like everyone else.
Why doesn&#039;t the govt do more for these Singaporeans?
The going rate for a cleaner is now $600 and going down fast! How does the old man and old woman cleaning my building downstairs survive?
I do give them AngPows during festive seasons and also share some foods and tidbits with them occasionally.
It is sad!

Dr.Huang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew and all,<br />
There old men and women working around each office building as cleaners.<br />
They do not choose to while away their twilight years sweeping floors and washing toilets.<br />
They would have prefered to be playing with their grandchildren or chit-chatting in the coffeeshop like everyone else.<br />
Why doesn&#8217;t the govt do more for these Singaporeans?<br />
The going rate for a cleaner is now $600 and going down fast! How does the old man and old woman cleaning my building downstairs survive?<br />
I do give them AngPows during festive seasons and also share some foods and tidbits with them occasionally.<br />
It is sad!</p>
<p>Dr.Huang</p>
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		<title>By: boogeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>boogeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Self reliant yes....but more like a battle for survival everyday. On a day he does not sell anything, he probably have to go to sleep starving. He probably scrimps and saves every 5 dollars he makes to cover for bad days. How many people truely understand and experience what he is going through.

He doesn&#039;t have the option of buying food as and when he wants to, much less clothes, shoes, PSP, XBox, handphone, etc that kids nowadays consider as default items they should have.

Every can is his life, even vase and plant he makes is part of his life. The best thing we can do, is to buy a little bit of this man&#039;s life, let him live with some dignity in his twilight years. The is a proud man standing on his own 2 feet, relying on nothing but his own hands and mind and ability, nothing that $1.96m/year will ever understand or even bother to think about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self reliant yes&#8230;.but more like a battle for survival everyday. On a day he does not sell anything, he probably have to go to sleep starving. He probably scrimps and saves every 5 dollars he makes to cover for bad days. How many people truely understand and experience what he is going through.</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t have the option of buying food as and when he wants to, much less clothes, shoes, PSP, XBox, handphone, etc that kids nowadays consider as default items they should have.</p>
<p>Every can is his life, even vase and plant he makes is part of his life. The best thing we can do, is to buy a little bit of this man&#8217;s life, let him live with some dignity in his twilight years. The is a proud man standing on his own 2 feet, relying on nothing but his own hands and mind and ability, nothing that $1.96m/year will ever understand or even bother to think about.</p>
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		<title>By: goh</title>
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		<dc:creator>goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to all Ministers &amp; top Civil servant,

with yr big mthly pay cheque, what is five dollar to u. u can afford to buy 5 handmade vases from him every month to give to anyone right? or u prefer to keep those money for yourself so that you feel more secure when you sleep at night .  majulah singapura .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to all Ministers &amp; top Civil servant,</p>
<p>with yr big mthly pay cheque, what is five dollar to u. u can afford to buy 5 handmade vases from him every month to give to anyone right? or u prefer to keep those money for yourself so that you feel more secure when you sleep at night .  majulah singapura .</p>
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		<title>By: zz</title>
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		<dc:creator>zz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful piece. Makes you wonder about the disparity and disconnect between teenagers going on expensive shopping trips and the old man in the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful piece. Makes you wonder about the disparity and disconnect between teenagers going on expensive shopping trips and the old man in the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doc,

If I recall correctly, Vivian Balakrishnan once asked, not too long ago, whether we should pity those who are picking up cardboards and tin cans to make a living. I believe he said they were &quot;self-reliant&quot; or something to that effect. Will try and find that quote.

In the meantime, you are right. There are many who are just making ends meet - and they are our elderly and weak.

As Martyn See once showed us: &lt;a href=&quot;http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/09/434/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Nation Builders&lt;/a&gt;

Regards,
Andrew Loh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doc,</p>
<p>If I recall correctly, Vivian Balakrishnan once asked, not too long ago, whether we should pity those who are picking up cardboards and tin cans to make a living. I believe he said they were &#8220;self-reliant&#8221; or something to that effect. Will try and find that quote.</p>
<p>In the meantime, you are right. There are many who are just making ends meet &#8211; and they are our elderly and weak.</p>
<p>As Martyn See once showed us: <a href="http://theonlinecitizen.com/2007/08/09/434/" rel="nofollow">Nation Builders</a></p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Andrew Loh</p>
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		<title>By: Dr.Huang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr.Huang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew,
We should always remind ourselves and the authorities that there are many more like this gentleman who are stuggling to make ends meet.

Thanks for highlighting this to us.

Dr.Huang</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew,<br />
We should always remind ourselves and the authorities that there are many more like this gentleman who are stuggling to make ends meet.</p>
<p>Thanks for highlighting this to us.</p>
<p>Dr.Huang</p>
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