Andrew Loh

If one were to follow the local media, one would be aghast at the gradual and subtle shifting of blame for alleged JI terrorist Mas Selamat Kastari’s escape.

It is propaganda at its most sublime.

It is propaganda because one, the government here in Singapore is all-encompassing and two, the local media is totally and completely beholden to the government. The media is used daily to lead public discussion and debate in the direction that the government wants it to go.

It is thus not unexpected that in a matter as serious as this escape the media would be employed to “hush things down” when ascribing blame to the government officials responsible for the “lapse”.

And so, we now witness a shameful shifting of blame – from the minister in charge, DPM Wong Kan Seng, to “Singaporeans’ complacency”.

It is also significant that this shift is spearheaded by the oldest member in the Cabinet, MM Lee Kuan Yew himself. Indeed MM Lee has spoken twice about this “complacency” – the first time on March 7:

“I think it’s a very severe lesson of complacency that we are confident we have this man sized up.” (Straits Times)

It is important to note that MM Lee avoided mentioning any names at all – including that of the Home Affairs Minister Wong. Instead MM Lee ascribed the “complacency” to his “custodians”.

On April 5, MM Lee again spoke about the escape but this time pointing the finger at Singaporeans in general:

“Complacency sets in when a people have not suffered any shock or setback for a long time, as in Singapore without jihadist terror attacks, although we have ceaselessly talked about it and prepared out (sic) defence.”

“Most people believe that bad things will happen to others, not to themselves.” (Link)

And to cement this shifting of blame, the Straits Times quoted PAP MP Lim Wee Kiak:

People’s Action Party MP Lim Wee Kiak called complacency a ‘side-effect’ of an overly successful Government and civil service.

‘This has bred a dependency mentality in our population who will blame the civil service and Government if any of their needs are not met,’ he noted.”

The shift is complete : The escape of Mas Selamat Kastari is due to Singaporeans’ complacency because “most people believe that bad things will happen to others, not to themselves”. And because of Singaporeans’ “dependency mindset”, they “blame the civil service and Government”. But no worries, this complacency is “a ‘side-effect’ of an overly successful Government and civil service”!

Game. Set. Match.

Singaporeans are to blame for the escape.

Who else should be responsible since we already have “an overly successful Government and civil service”? (Emphasis mine) Surely, they cannot be held responsible for Singaporeans’ “dependency mindset” and “complacency”!

If one recalls, one would also remember that the initial propaganda strategy was to use the escape to trumpet how “Singaporeans ace test of racial cohesion”, to quote a Straits Times headline. The ST reported NTUC Chief Lim Swee Say thus:

“Minister Lim Swee Say, who described the escape as a test in inter-racial cohesion, said Singaporeans passed it ‘with flying colours’.”

In all of the local media’s reports about the jailbreak, none, as far as I am aware of, has mentioned Minister Wong’s responsibility. Even the Prime Minister himself shrugged off the JI leader’s “toilet break” with “What to do? It’s happened.”

And so, it would seem that two groups of people are to blame: Mas Selamat’s custodians and Singaporeans in general.

As for the ministers in charge – Wong Kan Seng and his 2nd in command Ho Peng Kee, well, they are part of an “overly successful Government”. So how can they be held responsible?

Watch the local media go into overdrive to preserve and protect our extraordinary ministers in government – where lapses are easily and conveniently ascribed to others, even to those who had nothing to do at all with Mas Selamat.

In fact, most Singaporeans, I would bet, did not even know he existed until he gave his guards the slip on a fateful February 27.

But nonetheless, ignorance is not a defence.

Singaporeans are to blame for the escape.

Now, stop being complacent!

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151 Responses to “Mas Selamat’s escape – Government shifting the blame to Singaporeans’ “complacency””

  1. When I look at MM Lee pic,now he reminds me of how Mahathir is whacking PM Abdullah.
    Nobody is whacking PM Lee but we are being blamed instead?
    How ironic to live here in singapore?

  2. Fever Guy,

    When have I threatened you?

    Disgusted,

    If people leave just becos their opinions are not respected, I supposed you are telling me that 90% of the people’s opinions are respected, so they don’t leave.

    Enough of this.

    I am not toeing the party line. But politics is just this. You cannot expect that in every war, every battle, that you go and kill lieuts just becos his mission failed. I know you guys. No way can be reasoned with. And I am stucked between you people and the gahmen. Why?

    There are many concerned Singaporeans, there are many views, and there are many agendas in this cyber clout of darkness. If Singaporean politics is about and only about popular politics… You guys will be justified, those NTUC netters will also be justified. We don’t even need any thinking. Who can gang up who wins.

    And this is making Singapore a better place.

    No. I deeply against dismissing Wong Kan Seng for this. And even if I am the lone voice here, that’s it. I am against dismissing him. And don’t even think he, or the MM, or this party will even thank me. Especially in this sort of situation, all the more we cannot remove a DPM. I have explained very clearly why.

    Why ain’t I neutral? Must I be like you guys, then I can be a neutral? Must I shout ‘shut up, MM’, then I can gain your delight, as I should be the ‘gigolo’ in NTUC forum just to earn the delight of you people, then I can Neutral.

    I don’t think so.

    If I have to do this just to get popular, it’s pathetic.

    I m one of those, suffering in Singapore, aspiring to reach my potential, stucked in this place where lices are infesting the society. I long for good people to lead as well. I long for great governance to address the growing evils as a result of the blind pursue of money.

    Look at you guys…

    To me, you are like behaving as Dr Chee. We have a cost issue, you think following Dr Chee to the streets will make the gahmen do something? You think fighting with MM Lee, he’d consider doing something? You think dismissing Mr Wong by this… ganging up, mocking, and such will be the good of Singapore? Politically speaking, do you expect MM to give in, and signal of his weakness… …?

    I suffer in Singapore, with great injustice encountered as well. And PMO should have all the records. But if we are going to change anything for the better, we have to look broadbased, and we have to be quality. Yes yes yes… I am not successful as many of you. So?

    All my hopes of a better future in Singpoare are dashed…

    You are using the internet to stage a battle, a fight… and the gahmen will not just roll over and die. People are pissed. So would probably the gahmen. What will happen to the many suffering in Singapore… it’s just a dragging on, and on… and on.

    People leave, becos they need to survive. Simple as that. They want a better life.

    If you think that the gahmen is autocratic, what about you? U r pissed becos someone reminds on goodwill. Hahahahahahaha…

    Regretably, I can’t earn your delight. It’s not about party line, it’s just common sense.

    The truth is very simple, Disgusted… There is never any truth but agendas in a cultural desert.

    There is never justice in either side. And who will suffer? The ordinary people.

    Sghome,

    Rest assure, I am no what counter-insurgency. Fact is, I myself is looking out for one… such oversensitive counter-insurgency.

  3. Let’s get back on topic….

    Yilong said,”The grief is naturally there. Imagine, a lot of Singaporeans, both uniformed and non-uniformed, had put in precious time to help clean up the mess our DPM Wong and his ISA had created. And this is the kind of gratitude that we’re getting?! It may sound absurd, but why didn’t any of the Ministers or MPs join in the search? when it was pouring for the whole week in March, our army, police, gurkhas etc braved the harsh weather and spending less time with family. This is what they get in return?!”

    Yes, I noticed that too but “big shots” will always let the others do the “dirty job”. Besides, I can’t help but find it all so fishy. How did the government came to the conclusion that the BUS-DRVER lied about spotting Mas Kusturi Selemat (hope he’s the only guy with this name!) Unless the govt already know for sure where he is RIGHT NOW.

    There are rumours he’s died of torture and the news of his escape is a cover. The other rumour I had was that he was intentionally let off in the hope he would let authorities to the other terrorist ring-leaders.

    If it’s true PAP is reading this, they should get more intelligent people. I mean…come on….a funeral hub in Sin Ming was suggested last year. haha

  4. aygee 7 April 2008

    Complacent Singaporean, nice comment #95.

    “What to do? It’s happened.” I call that the most complacent quote one can ever give.

    “Johnny, you had very poor results in your exams. What happened?” “what to do, it’s happened”.

    “Sir, you are drinking and driving, and your alcohol limit is 3 times more than the accepted level.” “What to do? It’s happened”.

    But i’m thinking – have we been complacent that we never really challenged the govt, or were we just fearful? or was it both – Fear and Complacency?

    Solving complacency? have more checks and balances. a free press, better debates in parliament (not necessary from an opposition – until we get some credible opposition members, but remove the party whip, have more of a Republican/Democrat type govt.), separate the legistative, executive and jucidiary, and as mentioned many times above – TRANSPARENCY.

  5. aygee 7 April 2008

    Erm..just to go with some of the arguments here:

    Should Wong Kan Seng leave?

    We are led to believe that Mas Selamat is the #1 public enemy, and he intends to kill many innocent people. Think about it – a limping man without flight training taking over a plane (in today’s levels of security in many airports and in airplanes), and flying it into Changi.

    Maybe, there is NO pressure for him to resign from within the govt or his bosses is because Mas Selamat never was the so-called danger that we are led to believe by the press and other govt elements?

    WE HAVE BEEN COMPLACENT IN ACCEPTING WHATEVER THE PRESS AND OTHER SOURCES IN BELIEVING MAS SELAMAT IS DANGEROUS.

    we won’t know because there is no transparency – he wasn’t charged in court. Bring it all out to the open so that all of us are convinced that he’s really the threat that he’s made out to be.

    The solution: TRANSPARENCY.

    Should WKS be fired for this cock-up? we never really knew what happened on the ground. A mistake from the Gurkha guards? Mas Selamat has magical powers through long hours of meditation, thus was able to walk out unnoticed? (as claimed by Jufrie Mahmood on asiasentinel.com), he was kidnapped by CIA agents and brought to Guantanamo?

    Until we really know what happened on the ground, we shouldn’t be calling for WKS’ head, just yet. Until Mas Selamat does harmful acts on Singaporeans, we shouldn’t be calling for his head.

    I honestly believe Wong Kan Seng’s trying, to the best of his and his Ministry’s ability, to capture Mas Selamat. He’s only as good as the staff/advisors he has around him.

    what is the solution again then? TRANSPARENCY.

    Wong Kan Seng has delegated the responsibilities of Whitley Centre to a few people. So if there’s a cockup, if the public REALLY wants someone to take responsibility, then i would think the head of the Whitley Detention Centre, the duty officer for the day, the people in charge of training the Gurkhas, and the Gurkhas involved in the case, etc..then these people should be made accountable.

    I mean compare it with another recent cock-up – the Courts recently made a boo-boo of giving a man 3 extra strokes of the cane. Do you ask for the Chief Justice to resign? it was an error by the administrators on the day…a bit harsh to call for the Chief Justice to go?

    anyways – just some thoughts.

  6. wildboar 7 April 2008

    I wonder young Lee can perform or not, he is the one who judge the performance of ministers, and give them performance bonus.Then who judge PM’s performance ? MM or SM ?

  7. Fever Guy 7 April 2008

    Dear “Excited” Elfred,

    Now all of us here are branded ” DR Chee”, is he a radical? Look in the western nations and you will find a lot of DR Chee. Did any of this western nations failed economically? Look at our friends in the north, they too have many DR chee and did the people suffered to the point of breaking. They suffered more under UMNO. You are quick to throw names at us for crimes we did not commit. You truly wins head off for extreme ideas and imagination. Stop calling yourself a NEUTRAL look you are behaving now like a EXtremist.

    Nobody is asking WKS to step down, neither did anyone here at TOC petition to the prataman for him to step down. Nobody here believes he will step down anyway. Bet 1000000 to 1 he wont resign. So any issue, since no MIW is losing iron rice bowl anyway?

    Why are you saying killing our own lieutenant when he failed in a mission. There is no WAR to being with…we have peaceful singapore and thanks SAF but no we did not experience a WAR less WW2 my friend? If no how to kill our own officer, talk COCK my friend, such acts only Hilter, saddam and evil leaders do that. Singaporeans are peaceful in nature, they are like sheeps lock up in a pen. What more do you ask of us? should we shear our wool for you too?

    Internet battle as mentioned by you is so laughable. Battle who? Who lead us? What do we get? Any foot soldiers? LAN GAMING which internet cafe? You are too in a box to see an overall picture. People are not happy, why? Ask yourself this question. Why people/citizen spent time here at TOC to blog? You think we very free is it. Because something is very wrong with the current system. Why fix it when it aint broken, just oiled it will do. sounds familiar? No much of oiling can fix a lousy, outdated and soon to be broken system. Elfred, you can continue your arguments but at the end of day, no one here is ganging up, i don know anyone here and they too are sincere bloggers who want the best for Singapore, the general feeling is that we are all pissed…not with you but at the very words you used. Do yourself less harm, stop spoiling your party image by waving the high and mighty flag and finally just stop what you need to say as the more you say just makes it worst.

    Cheers.

  8. jac00 7 April 2008

    OH PLS!! What kind of ‘transparent’ reports are we going to get from a government in which the most SENIOR OF SENIOR ministers has just outrightly informed us that we are complacent!! And do remember they have already said some time back that they have the power to publish parts of the reports that they deem suit.

    Sghome: I am not suprised if there are any pro-political party activists that would use the cyberspace and make comments that are pro-PAP. The Russians did it during their communist rule(in their newspapers), China ban sites online so why not small singapore! I would do that too if i was in the government! Ghost writers? Who knows, they just might be real people, fanatics of the PAP ruling party…

  9. Yi-Long 7 April 2008

    Pt of Info for readers:

    Media companies around the globe carry agendas that’s pro-(their)owners.

    And who owns local media companies? ;)

  10. Another Great Escape. 7 April 2008

    Just for info – Flash News from BBC:

    15:01 GMT, Monday, 7 April 2008 16:01 UK

    Nine people convicted for links to suicide bombings in
    Casablanca have escaped from a Moroccan prison, officials say.

    Prison authorities at Kenitra, 40km (25 miles) north of the
    capital, Rabat, noticed the escape on Monday morning, the
    Justice Ministry told state media.

    An interior ministry source told AFP news agency that the
    prisoners had tunnelled their way out.

    The 2003 attacks left 45 people dead, including 12 bombers,
    and many injured.

    All measures were being taken to find the fugitives, the
    Justice Ministry said in a statement on state news agency MAP.

    Officials had been sent to the prison to investigate how the convicts had broken out, it said.

  11. hogwash 7 April 2008

    All this hog wash to cover up the findings of the commission of inquiry? I wait quietly, holding my breath….

  12. Disgusted 7 April 2008

    Elfred,
    please try to stick to the points of my argument. You’re not making any sense at all. I am asking for transparency of the government. The first thing they have to do is the release the CCTV footage of what happened. Where is it?
    My second point is getting rid of incompetent people. That *will* make things better. We cannot afford to have incompetent people leading the country. I have a bunch of other names in mind on who should be fire from their jobs.(the transport minister also comes to mind) You claim that this is “radical”, that we are all “Dr Chees”. Please stop using that as a scare tactic. This isn’t radical at all. On the contary, sacking incompetent people happens on a day to day basis in companies all around the world. Our ministers always claim to be the best(pegging their salaries to the top percentile in the industry). If that is how they see themselves, then that is how they should be treated. I am fine with paying top people top dollar. However, if they mess up, they are no longer top people and should be sacked.

  13. time to change 8 April 2008

    spend more time to re-educate young singaporean voters on this garmen wrong way of running this country. they have main stream media , we have internet and numerous of unhappy singaporeans. let’s do it in our small ways to spread real meaning of democracy to each and every singaporean.

  14. anonymous 8 April 2008

    as each day passes, I am more convinced that Mas Selamat is innocent.

    So is the younger chap that they arrested to defract attention.

    PAP’s actions so far had confirmed the worse I know of them. They are willing to sacrifice anyone, anything to cover their ass. They had not shown themselves as being of integrity and honesty. Nothing they do will be righteous nor of any good intentions for others except themselves.

    I only feel sad for those too small to defend against such tyrants.

  15. hogwash 8 April 2008

    talk about tyrants. I wonder how the christian ministers (Tony Tan) feels now after Tang Liang Hong was forced to migrate to australia after having the guts to stand up to PAP. He was really too small to defend against such tyrants. Ditto Chia Thye Poh and Francis Seow. Yes, even Francis Seow had to visit ISD for a stint. And cultural medallion winners….. small fries all… must have made the PAP ministers feel big. Yes. http://www.straitstimes.com/Free/Story/STIStory_129332.html
    You believe the ST? completely?

  16. CelluloidReality 8 April 2008

    Anonymous,

    That’s where I think you’re wrong. These fellows are targeted by every security agency from Indochina to Canberra.

    Innocent? I think not.

    Could there have been a better way of dealing with threats to our national security? Possibly.

  17. Yi-Long 8 April 2008

    In politics, the Chinese saying of 胜者为王,败者为寇 (literal translation: the winner is the king, and the loser is the bandit) applies to great effect.

    Chia and Seow held different political ideologies from our leaders then.

    If the then-Labour Party had stayed in power, the ISD detainees might have probably been a very different person(s).

  18. Seeking Salvation 8 April 2008

    we are just too complacent to vote in people who are overpaid too much to feed their face that they do not know the logical truth and admit in an honourable way that it was their mistake.
    This is a aloof government who would punish anyone miserably to the extent of bankrupting anyone who speaks against them Yet they are afraid to admitting to their own mistake of letting Mas Selamat escape and blaming fellowing Singapore for being complacent. Yes we were too complacent to allow this government run for so long to turn it into a cocky, red tape, aloof, monster. Fellow Singapore lets not be too complacent in choosing them in the next elections. But remember we have already let them feed themselves fat in the face and pockets with enough to last their families for generations when some fellow Singaporeans are jobless, starving and struggling with the food prices and GST hike. These are people who engaged in cheap talk and allow foreign talents to compete for your jobs. It is a no brainer during the downturn and the SARS period when the economy was laguishing, they did not offer any
    solutions. So with a event such a big escape they are in further denial of their own mistake and pushing the issue to complacency of their citizens. So much for a world class government. Which government have a Prime Minister who is paid overly much and need a father to hold his hand as mentor and a Senior Minister and 2 Deputies for a small dot (as Taiwan called a peesai) to lead. I think we are in for a hell of a shit hellhole time. Whenever there is a crisis he goes in hibernation and keep his mouth shut do u call that a world class government

  19. Gary Teoh 8 April 2008

    Hi Disgusted, i totally agree with you,take so much pay must be competent, if not we pay peanut get monkey

  20. Am I a fool ? 8 April 2008

    MM is right, we should all not be complacent and ask about our NATIONAL reserves and CPF money as this is our blood and sweat money.

    All Singaporeans should not be complacent ahd find out how our money is being accounted for with regards to our returns.

    If we still sit on our asses, we are gonna hit the same problem again.

    Do wait till the well goes dry, find out what is actually happening before we hit ground zero.

  21. Insulted 9 April 2008

    I do not know about the rest but as a Singaporean I feel insulted. Yet I can do nothing as I have never had the chance to excercise by right to vote (mind you, I am in my mid 40s) because of governments efficiency in re-drawing boundaries and creating bigger GRCs. At the least I definitely do not feel humiliated, the 66.6% should, because they were complacent.

  22. Dingo 9 April 2008

    Fever Guy,

    Excellent response in the first paragraph of post #111

  23. Gary Teoh 9 April 2008

    Actually we should thank mas selamat for waking us up regarding complacency. Til now we are still living in a make believe world.If we still don’t change,we will lose our CPF forever. Thank you mas selamat. Hope you are in good health.

  24. aygee 9 April 2008

    As i read the multiple blogs about this complacency issue, something comes to my mind…

    That perhaps MM Lee’s comment about complacency was a veiled “cautionary” remark on the current government? that he was using sarcasm to subtly tell his son and WKS and maybe the govt as a whole that they are f**king things up in Singapore, that the govt is complacent?

    Because he KNOWS that he will get a rise of the people through his statement?

    just a thought for discussion…

  25. But I do believe us Singaporeans are far to complacent and overly proud and too dependent. We need this kind of shock just to wake the people up and realize “hey, we aren’t all that prefect after all”…

    And seriously Andrew… do u really think Mas is alive and well hiding away safely? so what if the government is pushing the blame towards us. Have the people had any say in this or any other matter that the government took into serious consideration? NO. What they do, we follow. What they say, we listen. Nuff said.

  26. patriot 9 April 2008

    Terrorists and terrorism will always remain threats as long as Singapore is pro United States, there can be no doubt about it. These threats can only be mitigated when Singapore learns to be neutral. Neutrality may even completely neutralizes the said threats.

    As for war with other sovereigns, we may have to be realistic. The Modern World has little or no tribal culture, unlike years yonder, when occupying anothers’ land was victory and glory, today, having peace and prosperity is the greatest wisdom.

    While Suharto must be condemned for corruption, he must also be remembered for some great wisdoms. It was he who stopped the confrontasi with Malaysia and Singapore. Had he chose to conquer the latter two, there was no guarantee he would succeed, but Indonesia will never be able to prosper if he did, that was for sure. Why would any country goes to war and waste lives and money? He knew the wisdom and was able to organised his own country and prospered it during his reign.

    That brings the question whether any other country will invade Singapore? Only the most foolish of leaders will do so. There is nothing to gain from a resourceless country like Singapore, having it under ones’ wing is but to burden oneself. May I even say that there is a possibility that neighbouring nations maybe waiting for Singapore to ask for a merger or may have to foster it one day.

    patriot.

  27. CelluloidReality 9 April 2008

    Aygee,

    MM has certainly got a strong reaction from the public,that’s for sure.

    Patriot,

    Neutrality is at best a notion hoped for in academic texts and journals. In the coming years, the luxury of playing our balance of power cards will grow lesser, in fact.

    Inevitably, Singapore will have to choose.

    You know why? Because we’re not a superpower, let alone a hyperpower that can choose to say “Look, I will have no part of this and nothing you chaps around me do, can or will be allowed to affect me”.

  28. What I have learnt 9 April 2008

    I think MSK is dead, and now they are trying to apply cosmetic surgery.

    Bottomline How can anyone escape from the toilet of a highly secure detention facility ?

    Do they no thave guards watching the CCTV all the time ?

    what about tracker dogs ? did they not find anything?

    It has not come down to BLAME and not finding where MSK has vanished too.

    SMOKE SCREEN ???

  29. Fever Guy 9 April 2008

    Dingo,

    Thanks. Just my inner thoughts. I wish all Patriotic Singaporeans to pray that OUR NATION can be less complacent from now on. Ask every policy, laws and even our secret reserves. Question our million dollar minister on their actions. Bear this in mind all the time. Stop the ROT!

  30. hogwash 9 April 2008

    actually if WKS does not admit any error, and LHL does not conclude that his minister of home affairs is responsible, maybe it is true that it is a hint from LKY to Singaporeans to allow LHL to quietly step down and allow LKY to step up again. Is this the message?? hmmm…

  31. patriot 9 April 2008

    CelluloidReality;
    thank You for the response.

    If Singapore is a super/hyper power, we would not be talking about the Subject. It is precisely that we are so minute(tiny) that if we cannot win them, the neighbours, join and co-operate with them. Why do Singapore wants to ally with the Worlds’ most hated nation? Because the Leadership think that it is the ‘most powerful nation’ in the World. Has the United States proved anything other than being the Greatest Trouble Maker and a Great Failure everywhere it meddles with?

    Realistically, we got to ask ourselves; what has the United States done to make the World a better place? It has imparted much evil values to the cultures of many other races throughout the World with their materialistic lifestyles, imperialistic/capitalist character. Even their schools had shown much signs of troubles, bullying, shootings and soon United States will begin to disintegrate.

    Btw, altimately, like what one Malaysian Blogger said, Singapore cannot survive alone.

    I am an atheist, but somehow, somewhere I agree with our maverick Kew kah Fatt with regard the US of A. That(US) is a wrong company to be with.

    Yours sincerely: patriot.

  32. patriot 10 April 2008

    Just to nag a little more.
    Ex President Suharto ended the ‘Konfrantasi’ to put his own house(Indonesia) in order. He had more soldiers then than the whole population of Singapore. The US at that point in time was fighting a lost battle in Vietnam.

    It was not as though the Singapore and Malaysian Leaderships then were so capable as to stop the Confrontation as asserted by some bloggers/commenters.

    The Anzuk Joint Forces(Australian/New Zealand/British etc) could have been a deterrent to the Indonesian aggression.

  33. Insulted 10 April 2008

    What sheer arrogance…
    If there is one question I would like to ask the old man is that does he believe that the Pappies will be still be in power if we still had all single ward constituencies.
    I also believe that the single ward system would have produced more capable leaders who will be more intuned to the pulse of the population and thus make better leaders than the present lot, who basically are representing people who did not give them the mandate. To them its just a well paying job which they do not want to jeopadise.

  34. CelluloidReality 10 April 2008

    Patriot,

    It’s patently unfair to label the United States as the World’s Greatest Troublemaker.

    In fact, we’re no saints too.

    Read “Theoretical Roots of US Foreign Policy” by Thomas M.Kane. You’ll realise that the Machiavellian aspects of American foreign actions are almost the same as ours.

    The only difference is that we end up playing Machiavellian politics and a winner-takes-all mentality in the domestic sphere far more than the States.

    Trouble perceived by the world is currently a consequence of the current Republican adminstration putting her interpretation of what constitutes America’s primary interest first and foremost.

    It’s a battle of interpretations now. Soft power vs hard power. Marines in Aceh vs Marines in Iraq. Same forces, same capabilities, same projection doctrine, perhaps same aim, but different use of this force.

    We can’t say that our relationship is a black and white one. At most, it is grey, and we do not support American policies 10 out of 10, and when it comes to the Gulf and Palestine, we often vote in support of the Palestinian people and have our own foreign policy ties with nations like Iran.

  35. patriot 10 April 2008

    CelluloidReality;
    with no other positive deed from the US of A available for me to show the World, the only alternative left for me was to cite its’ existing colours. And the US past history was not any glorious too, to me.

    The same can be said of my own homeland, after growing for four decades, I have yet to see the gestation of nationhood but instead a growing chasm is born out of the womb of the Leadership with its’ people. And yet the Leaders are glorifying themselves ceaselessly.

    I usually avoid talking about Foreign and Diplomatic Relations but have pondered the Purpose of National Service and its’ effects on Singaporeans. Dare I say that from what I have read of your postings, I found You are a very patriotic Citizen and do accept my respects to that. Personally, I am still not certain whether our armies will be used for National Defence, to defence others’ territories(sent for oversea missions) or God Forbids(as a description-am atheist) against fellow Singaporeans. MM Lee Kuan Yew makes me feel, that my suspicion, since the day I was in NS myself, that the last could be one of the the purpose.

    And I worry, worry that muddle headedness and ego would destroy us because ‘cong ming e si, hu tu e si’ (born wise but muddle just once) can undo everything.

    Yours truly:

    patriot.

  36. Hhahahaahah — lol —- We’re to blame!!!! I too will face the wall with shame like my children when they are bad, and say: I will not be complacent and allow terrorists to escape from my HBD flat in the future..

    I will not be complacent and allow terrorists to escape from my flat in the future..

    Repeat after me!

    I wil not be complacent and allow terrorists to escape from my flat in the future.

    hhhahahaaha. They must think most Singaporeans are morons! Like the ones supporting PAP here!

  37. Poor MM Lee receiving the brunt of his own well-established education system. sigh

  38. sweettalk 8 May 2009

    open your eyes next GE. all this is happening becuz PAP are becoming arrogant like doing millions, billions dollar thing without letting anyone know with their everytime easy confirm victory using only sweettalks and there you go heavy pig cheque delivered to you. sweettalk, thats all you need.

  39. To all True blue Sinkaporean, love your government, be grateful and work hard. PAP had done wonders for Sinkapore and MM Lee is the star and architect of modern Sinkapore. Maybe you had lost a little bit on free speak but it is worth the price. Who need a opposition party? PAP already had opposition MPs and speaking for Sinkaporean. Why need more? A little bit of inflation, so what? Change government ? If that is the logic then Sinkapore will sink. Be grateful for what you have. Go and live in Africa and see for yourself how lucky you are. Good health service, world class education, corruption free civil service. What more do you what ? Count your blessing and if the MM and PM said, Sinkaporean is complecent, then it must be true. I fully accept with a doubt. There are in a position to know it better then all of us put together.