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	<title>Comments on: TOC Editorial: ST’s Mas Selamat coverage bad for the ST, worse for Singapore</title>
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		<title>By: Reply To Above</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 15:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it easy.
The truth will come out in the end.
Everybody has to make a living.
Some as &quot;Fever Guy&quot; mentioned take to bullshit journalism or &quot;angkat&quot; &amp; &quot;angkat&quot;
Some others - leaving their names to be known try to score points with their bosses.
Just be true to oneself is good enough, never mind about the S$, Power, Connection, Favours, etc
AND  always be thankful that we have the TOC which will one day replace the mainstreamline newspapers feeling threatened now - you can note their  slightly friendlier tone to netizens creeping in these days.
CONSCIENCE is the secret watcher, and He is at work  24/7.
Relax..................................................................................................................................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it easy.<br />
The truth will come out in the end.<br />
Everybody has to make a living.<br />
Some as &#8220;Fever Guy&#8221; mentioned take to bullshit journalism or &#8220;angkat&#8221; &amp; &#8220;angkat&#8221;<br />
Some others &#8211; leaving their names to be known try to score points with their bosses.<br />
Just be true to oneself is good enough, never mind about the S$, Power, Connection, Favours, etc<br />
AND  always be thankful that we have the TOC which will one day replace the mainstreamline newspapers feeling threatened now &#8211; you can note their  slightly friendlier tone to netizens creeping in these days.<br />
CONSCIENCE is the secret watcher, and He is at work  24/7.<br />
Relax&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Some people can be so hung up &#60; unsolicitedopinion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some people can be so hung up &#60; unsolicitedopinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Partiot,

Thank you. Ha Ha Very funny! The freesheets sounded like North Korean progagada, they now think we are dumb. How low the pappies have degraded themselves. Now i am worried for our reserves going to be wasted on some useless credit crunch banks like citi and UBS. I am getting worried at these monkeys handling of our reserves.

Yet, our glorious leader now behave suddenly like a financial guru giving his holy speech. He haven even account the billions lost in these banks as GIC chairman to his shareholders.


FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Partiot,</p>
<p>Thank you. Ha Ha Very funny! The freesheets sounded like North Korean progagada, they now think we are dumb. How low the pappies have degraded themselves. Now i am worried for our reserves going to be wasted on some useless credit crunch banks like citi and UBS. I am getting worried at these monkeys handling of our reserves.</p>
<p>Yet, our glorious leader now behave suddenly like a financial guru giving his holy speech. He haven even account the billions lost in these banks as GIC chairman to his shareholders.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 14:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fever Guy;

thanks for your response; I used to think like You before but then I realised that whatever ST reports are also reported by TV stations, radio broadcsats and freesheets. Hence we do not need ST.

Secondly, I believe we are having freesheets because ST and even Vernacular presses are suffering from falling readerships. And I suspect that the freesheets are for the &#039;education of readers&#039; to appreciate the leadership for their glorious and unmatched performances. Such performances include how after losing Mas Selamat, they are still able &#039;to move on&#039; as glorious as ever.

My respects for them have gone into the trashbag very long ago actually.

patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fever Guy;</p>
<p>thanks for your response; I used to think like You before but then I realised that whatever ST reports are also reported by TV stations, radio broadcsats and freesheets. Hence we do not need ST.</p>
<p>Secondly, I believe we are having freesheets because ST and even Vernacular presses are suffering from falling readerships. And I suspect that the freesheets are for the &#8216;education of readers&#8217; to appreciate the leadership for their glorious and unmatched performances. Such performances include how after losing Mas Selamat, they are still able &#8216;to move on&#8217; as glorious as ever.</p>
<p>My respects for them have gone into the trashbag very long ago actually.</p>
<p>patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See the following:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Phek_Hoong%2C_Irene

When you have an ex-ST editor who have moved on as PAP MP that behaves in this way, should you expect any better on those aspiring to go the same way?

I rest my case</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See the following:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Phek_Hoong%2C_Irene" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ng_Phek_Hoong%2C_Irene</a></p>
<p>When you have an ex-ST editor who have moved on as PAP MP that behaves in this way, should you expect any better on those aspiring to go the same way?</p>
<p>I rest my case</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriot,

I agreed that hurting ST in their pocket may change them somewhat but to be what we want ST to become is going to be tough coz gahmen has money to burn.

As for me, I read it free in library and clubs and i stop buying any magazines that is owned by ST. To stop supporting means any magazines owned and published by ST should also be banned from buying. I buy Time magazine and find it more informative than ST many times over. Also there are alot of internet website to get information too. Do we still need ST? No and YES. We still need to read ST to see how bad they have become but never spend a dime on it, that&#039;s my rule. No, it has lost so much reputation that readership is declining fast.

FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot,</p>
<p>I agreed that hurting ST in their pocket may change them somewhat but to be what we want ST to become is going to be tough coz gahmen has money to burn.</p>
<p>As for me, I read it free in library and clubs and i stop buying any magazines that is owned by ST. To stop supporting means any magazines owned and published by ST should also be banned from buying. I buy Time magazine and find it more informative than ST many times over. Also there are alot of internet website to get information too. Do we still need ST? No and YES. We still need to read ST to see how bad they have become but never spend a dime on it, that&#8217;s my rule. No, it has lost so much reputation that readership is declining fast.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apart from the Straits Times, Singaporeans have 6 free(with annual licence fee) Local TV Stations, One Malaysian TV Channel and numerous radio broadcasts to tune in. Today and Mypaper are free sheets or shits(basically carry same news as ST but in summaries) and also the Internet are available for anyone interested in News.

Newspapers publishers are not printing news to educate and inform the masses, this purpose is secondary to making profits. So, if we get similar news from the other medias, then I must say ST is no more that essential as it is made out to be here. Maybe not buying it may cause them to be more &#039;neutral&#039; in their reportings. As it is, it is but a mouthpiece of the Authority.

I am new to the Internet; just about two years and I have discontinued my subscriptions to all local newspapers(English/Chinese) and even hardly buy them on Saturday which I used to few months ago. Allowing any establishment to profit from us and not benefitting us with right/good values is simply not supportable. We have to make them be awared that they should not disadvantage us, the customers that make their business viable. And we must be resolute and united to effectively prove our point. Let us be sincere in our protests and not just &#039;lip service&#039;. Hope I am being reasonable.

Yours truly: patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apart from the Straits Times, Singaporeans have 6 free(with annual licence fee) Local TV Stations, One Malaysian TV Channel and numerous radio broadcasts to tune in. Today and Mypaper are free sheets or shits(basically carry same news as ST but in summaries) and also the Internet are available for anyone interested in News.</p>
<p>Newspapers publishers are not printing news to educate and inform the masses, this purpose is secondary to making profits. So, if we get similar news from the other medias, then I must say ST is no more that essential as it is made out to be here. Maybe not buying it may cause them to be more &#8216;neutral&#8217; in their reportings. As it is, it is but a mouthpiece of the Authority.</p>
<p>I am new to the Internet; just about two years and I have discontinued my subscriptions to all local newspapers(English/Chinese) and even hardly buy them on Saturday which I used to few months ago. Allowing any establishment to profit from us and not benefitting us with right/good values is simply not supportable. We have to make them be awared that they should not disadvantage us, the customers that make their business viable. And we must be resolute and united to effectively prove our point. Let us be sincere in our protests and not just &#8216;lip service&#8217;. Hope I am being reasonable.</p>
<p>Yours truly: patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Expected Analysis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expected Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 08:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellow Singaporeans,

To be able to refute anybody over any matter, we have to be well-read and well-informed first. Reading ST or any other papers does not mean that you support or believe what is reported.

The important thing is whether you have exercised your own analysis on the reports yourself, with friends, etc.

Only with substained interest and a real purpose that one will be able to draw an analysed conclusion. There is no right or wrong. It is an opinion formed through your knowledge of the matter, the quality of the information received or used.

Keep up with the times and read widely. You will realise that a lot of things are very much different from what can be seen on the surface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellow Singaporeans,</p>
<p>To be able to refute anybody over any matter, we have to be well-read and well-informed first. Reading ST or any other papers does not mean that you support or believe what is reported.</p>
<p>The important thing is whether you have exercised your own analysis on the reports yourself, with friends, etc.</p>
<p>Only with substained interest and a real purpose that one will be able to draw an analysed conclusion. There is no right or wrong. It is an opinion formed through your knowledge of the matter, the quality of the information received or used.</p>
<p>Keep up with the times and read widely. You will realise that a lot of things are very much different from what can be seen on the surface.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriot,

The basis is one must not pay to read shit times and in my case i dont. Reading their article is really damaging to my brain and i try not to read them. Anyway TOC blog and many other blogs do have reference to their article and i will try to skip them too. Sometimes when the crap gets really stinky you got to refute them or sinkies will be taken for a ride. You got to read their stuff to know how much they have degrade their profession.

:&gt;
FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot,</p>
<p>The basis is one must not pay to read shit times and in my case i dont. Reading their article is really damaging to my brain and i try not to read them. Anyway TOC blog and many other blogs do have reference to their article and i will try to skip them too. Sometimes when the crap gets really stinky you got to refute them or sinkies will be taken for a ride. You got to read their stuff to know how much they have degrade their profession.</p>
<p>:&gt;<br />
FG</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patriot,
unfortunately, staying clear of newspaper will not help and it will continue to exist since they are using taxmoney to fund it. Rather I think the best way to counter it is to make use of it to educate the people to read critically. As much it is a valuable propaganda and mouthpiece tool, it can also be the establishment&#039;s nemesis too just a fire can be a faithful servant but a terrible master.

One can extract remark from newspaper and refute it. Yes, it is a mouthpiece of the establishment but without quoting from the mouthpiece and trying to critically analyze, there is nothing to tell your friend and people around what&#039;s wrong with mainstream media. There still lot of people who still read Shitty Time and is ignorance.

It may not be a bad thing if one read the shittytime and become infuriate, because the anger will translate to vote of no confident to the establishment too.

Consider the ShittyTime the printed version of Talkingcock.com and I do find the talkingcock.com more credibile than Shittytime though, with a good laugh ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patriot,<br />
unfortunately, staying clear of newspaper will not help and it will continue to exist since they are using taxmoney to fund it. Rather I think the best way to counter it is to make use of it to educate the people to read critically. As much it is a valuable propaganda and mouthpiece tool, it can also be the establishment&#8217;s nemesis too just a fire can be a faithful servant but a terrible master.</p>
<p>One can extract remark from newspaper and refute it. Yes, it is a mouthpiece of the establishment but without quoting from the mouthpiece and trying to critically analyze, there is nothing to tell your friend and people around what&#8217;s wrong with mainstream media. There still lot of people who still read Shitty Time and is ignorance.</p>
<p>It may not be a bad thing if one read the shittytime and become infuriate, because the anger will translate to vote of no confident to the establishment too.</p>
<p>Consider the ShittyTime the printed version of Talkingcock.com and I do find the talkingcock.com more credibile than Shittytime though, with a good laugh &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Day I started surfing the Net about two years back, there were many who posted saying that they will not read the Straits Times because it carries government(PAP) Propanganda. However, Netizens are hurt by what they read in the Straits Times time and again.

Do yourselves a favour, all you need to do to stop hurting yourselves(damaging of course) is to avoid reading the Straits Times. If You cannot do it, blame yourselves, do not blame the ST Writers. Did the Chua Sisters and others in ST force You? Answer to yourselves honestly.

patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Day I started surfing the Net about two years back, there were many who posted saying that they will not read the Straits Times because it carries government(PAP) Propanganda. However, Netizens are hurt by what they read in the Straits Times time and again.</p>
<p>Do yourselves a favour, all you need to do to stop hurting yourselves(damaging of course) is to avoid reading the Straits Times. If You cannot do it, blame yourselves, do not blame the ST Writers. Did the Chua Sisters and others in ST force You? Answer to yourselves honestly.</p>
<p>patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fever Guy,
putting name may have limited usage because people tend to forget easier about comment and it is hard to search comment.

Why not do something drastic ?

In order to discourage substandard work from bootlicker that promote only pro-PAP view in mainstream media, why not force them to be accountable  by putting their PAPish face, and their PAP-propaganda shitty article/remark on Online Citizen that easy to access ?

Could Online Citizen setup another tab where it will contain all the faces of PAP inept members that have sprouted rubbish (Not all PAP people are like that, only those arrogant Papstard who are disconnected with the citizen), along with link to their offensive remark and also link where bloggers refute their remark ?

In doing so, Online Citizen can be consider as a research site where people can easily extract quote, resources for use in their own blog.

The friends of the editor/report will isolate them if they think that the reporter and editor lack morality and only work for money without conscience.

Let&#039;s the society decide and judge by what they write in mainstream media. If the clown write something with cuckoo/moronic remark/reasons and without logic similar to some of the remarks of cuckoo ministers, then they will be embarassed and mocked by their own friend, stranger and relative. If they write in the true spirit of journalism then they will naturally be praised and envied by the people.

This way will force ShittyTime to impose high independent standard of reporting and journalism. The mainstream media supposed to be Singapore&#039;s newspaper, not PAP&#039;s newsletter and propaganda shit.

In the past, the coffers had used expensive mainstream media to discredit opposition party and patriot that threaten their regime by posting the latter&#039;s face along with Shitty&#039;s big arrogant nefarious headline. Now using internet, we should let the coffers taste back their very own bitter medicine.

Beside, this will also keep the ministers on the toe not to sprout rubbish that infuriate and insult Singaporean.

That also help to remind people not to be senile where it comes to election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fever Guy,<br />
putting name may have limited usage because people tend to forget easier about comment and it is hard to search comment.</p>
<p>Why not do something drastic ?</p>
<p>In order to discourage substandard work from bootlicker that promote only pro-PAP view in mainstream media, why not force them to be accountable  by putting their PAPish face, and their PAP-propaganda shitty article/remark on Online Citizen that easy to access ?</p>
<p>Could Online Citizen setup another tab where it will contain all the faces of PAP inept members that have sprouted rubbish (Not all PAP people are like that, only those arrogant Papstard who are disconnected with the citizen), along with link to their offensive remark and also link where bloggers refute their remark ?</p>
<p>In doing so, Online Citizen can be consider as a research site where people can easily extract quote, resources for use in their own blog.</p>
<p>The friends of the editor/report will isolate them if they think that the reporter and editor lack morality and only work for money without conscience.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s the society decide and judge by what they write in mainstream media. If the clown write something with cuckoo/moronic remark/reasons and without logic similar to some of the remarks of cuckoo ministers, then they will be embarassed and mocked by their own friend, stranger and relative. If they write in the true spirit of journalism then they will naturally be praised and envied by the people.</p>
<p>This way will force ShittyTime to impose high independent standard of reporting and journalism. The mainstream media supposed to be Singapore&#8217;s newspaper, not PAP&#8217;s newsletter and propaganda shit.</p>
<p>In the past, the coffers had used expensive mainstream media to discredit opposition party and patriot that threaten their regime by posting the latter&#8217;s face along with Shitty&#8217;s big arrogant nefarious headline. Now using internet, we should let the coffers taste back their very own bitter medicine.</p>
<p>Beside, this will also keep the ministers on the toe not to sprout rubbish that infuriate and insult Singaporean.</p>
<p>That also help to remind people not to be senile where it comes to election.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should start a list of ST and Today writers who write so much crap that their names must be on the Chart &quot; Top Bullshit Writers for 2008&quot; .

I say i start with a few names,

Paul Jacob (ST)
Chua Mui Hoong (ST)
Chua Lee Hoong (ST)

please feel free to add in your choice of bullshit journalist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should start a list of ST and Today writers who write so much crap that their names must be on the Chart &#8221; Top Bullshit Writers for 2008&#8243; .</p>
<p>I say i start with a few names,</p>
<p>Paul Jacob (ST)<br />
Chua Mui Hoong (ST)<br />
Chua Lee Hoong (ST)</p>
<p>please feel free to add in your choice of bullshit journalist</p>
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		<title>By: National reserves</title>
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		<dc:creator>National reserves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TOC, please have an open invite to the PAP to engage the people on this forum as I am sure it would be a common platform for Singaporeans to discuss and contribute ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TOC, please have an open invite to the PAP to engage the people on this forum as I am sure it would be a common platform for Singaporeans to discuss and contribute ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/04/toc-editorial-st%e2%80%99s-mas-selamat-coverage-bad-for-the-st-worse-for-singapore/comment-page-2/#comment-7126</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joker,

I fully agreed with you on TOC, expand your services and i dun mind paying for it too. Maybe ST will advertise on your website too. Haha... coz the chua sisters will be out of job so is Paul Jacob. Cant wait to see them jobless.

FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joker,</p>
<p>I fully agreed with you on TOC, expand your services and i dun mind paying for it too. Maybe ST will advertise on your website too. Haha&#8230; coz the chua sisters will be out of job so is Paul Jacob. Cant wait to see them jobless.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: joker</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/04/toc-editorial-st%e2%80%99s-mas-selamat-coverage-bad-for-the-st-worse-for-singapore/comment-page-2/#comment-7125</link>
		<dc:creator>joker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T.O.C. --- You must start to expand your services to include what Straits Times provides now:

Classifieds, adverts, etc. You have much more credibility than these jokers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T.O.C. &#8212; You must start to expand your services to include what Straits Times provides now:</p>
<p>Classifieds, adverts, etc. You have much more credibility than these jokers!</p>
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		<title>By: National reserves</title>
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		<dc:creator>National reserves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It goes to show one thing, for progess and a better quality of life, things have to change.

We can&#039;t have people living in the twilight zone telling us how to eat, sh*t, breathe, and to buy cheaper food.

These elites are from another dimension and they cant seem to relate.
Common sense has eroded to a point where s*hit is gold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It goes to show one thing, for progess and a better quality of life, things have to change.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t have people living in the twilight zone telling us how to eat, sh*t, breathe, and to buy cheaper food.</p>
<p>These elites are from another dimension and they cant seem to relate.<br />
Common sense has eroded to a point where s*hit is gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chua Lee Hoong said that “reading the internet postings make [her] blood boil.” Don’t antangonise her. God knows what else she could do….&quot;

Really, to many who want nothing but the truth,
We said that &quot;not reading the internet postings make our blood boiler&quot;, and that show how much we want to engage in internet.

When the government doesn&#039;t want to speak up the truth, and degrade real problem as non-issue, it only end up in speculation. But what did we know ? Surprisely, speculation do have real contribution as it lead to enquiry, questioning and research. And not to mention the combined intelligence of the crowd compared to the pathetic braintrust of the clowns lead by the clown prince.

Didn&#039;t we learn from the Edison&#039;s scandal ? Who uncover the truth ? It is not the media company, it is the internet ! The more they refute the truth, the more the truth will be uncovered.

That speak for the government too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chua Lee Hoong said that “reading the internet postings make [her] blood boil.” Don’t antangonise her. God knows what else she could do….&#8221;</p>
<p>Really, to many who want nothing but the truth,<br />
We said that &#8220;not reading the internet postings make our blood boiler&#8221;, and that show how much we want to engage in internet.</p>
<p>When the government doesn&#8217;t want to speak up the truth, and degrade real problem as non-issue, it only end up in speculation. But what did we know ? Surprisely, speculation do have real contribution as it lead to enquiry, questioning and research. And not to mention the combined intelligence of the crowd compared to the pathetic braintrust of the clowns lead by the clown prince.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t we learn from the Edison&#8217;s scandal ? Who uncover the truth ? It is not the media company, it is the internet ! The more they refute the truth, the more the truth will be uncovered.</p>
<p>That speak for the government too.</p>
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		<title>By: Logicalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logicalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course her blood would boil. After so many years of writing things that are against her principles (or at least, her conscience or the values her ancestors stood for), how can her blood not boil? Look at Catherine Lim, ever the sensible writer. Still full of glow and vitality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course her blood would boil. After so many years of writing things that are against her principles (or at least, her conscience or the values her ancestors stood for), how can her blood not boil? Look at Catherine Lim, ever the sensible writer. Still full of glow and vitality.</p>
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		<title>By: Logicalman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logicalman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Low Thia Kiang did not blunder by remaining silent. He spoke out loud and clear. His answer was in fact, &quot;Mr Prime Minister, whether I would or would not ask for WKS to resign is irrelevant. What&#039;s most important is what you would do about this. You are the PM, I am not. I cannot presume to be able to speak on your behalf, and even if I think I can, I should not. If James Gomez was the Home Affairs Minister, I will answer that question.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Low Thia Kiang did not blunder by remaining silent. He spoke out loud and clear. His answer was in fact, &#8220;Mr Prime Minister, whether I would or would not ask for WKS to resign is irrelevant. What&#8217;s most important is what you would do about this. You are the PM, I am not. I cannot presume to be able to speak on your behalf, and even if I think I can, I should not. If James Gomez was the Home Affairs Minister, I will answer that question.&#8221;</p>
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