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		<title>By: CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 01:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what&#039;s happening but these days white lots ain&#039;t &quot;pure&quot; white lots anymore.  Previously, most HDB parking places are free on Sunday... but if you notice, a lot of parking places are now converted in such a way that they are &quot;white lots&quot; on weekdays but these &quot;white lots&quot; become red on weekends....

I find that the signage that they put up to notify drivers about thisis too small and unnoticeable...  Is it their intention to cause confusion among drivers and fine them for parking on private &quot;white lots&quot; on Sundays?  I seem to hear many of such cases lately....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s happening but these days white lots ain&#8217;t &#8220;pure&#8221; white lots anymore.  Previously, most HDB parking places are free on Sunday&#8230; but if you notice, a lot of parking places are now converted in such a way that they are &#8220;white lots&#8221; on weekdays but these &#8220;white lots&#8221; become red on weekends&#8230;.</p>
<p>I find that the signage that they put up to notify drivers about thisis too small and unnoticeable&#8230;  Is it their intention to cause confusion among drivers and fine them for parking on private &#8220;white lots&#8221; on Sundays?  I seem to hear many of such cases lately&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 10:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very sad that  a system of government that is totally geared toward collecting money , money and more money. Compassion? What compassion. No money no talk. Don&#039;t pay fine goes to prison. No money to pay also goes to prison. This is modern Sinkapore! Don&#039;t like it goes somewhere else! Paradise Island is for the rich and PAP members and supporters- don&#039;t you get it? The ministers need millions $ wages so they need to get money from rich Sinkaporean with car and any one esle who happen to fall into the traps.Don&#039;t like it - what can you do? Pack up and leave? Where to lah? Malaysia? Australia? New Zealand? Maybe UK?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very sad that  a system of government that is totally geared toward collecting money , money and more money. Compassion? What compassion. No money no talk. Don&#8217;t pay fine goes to prison. No money to pay also goes to prison. This is modern Sinkapore! Don&#8217;t like it goes somewhere else! Paradise Island is for the rich and PAP members and supporters- don&#8217;t you get it? The ministers need millions $ wages so they need to get money from rich Sinkaporean with car and any one esle who happen to fall into the traps.Don&#8217;t like it &#8211; what can you do? Pack up and leave? Where to lah? Malaysia? Australia? New Zealand? Maybe UK?</p>
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		<title>By: SunShine</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunShine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, recently I got a fine with URA for parking coupon...my young newphew played with the displayed coupon and folded it...the parking officer saw the coupon been folded and summon me. I have went back to my car and thrown away the coupon without the officer around. but when I went back to may car again later, the parking officer waited at my car and ask for the folded coupon. I told them I have thrown it away, they dont believe and send me n offence of refusing to present coupon to parking warrant. I wne to URA to appeal, I went to MP to appeal....but I still have to go to Sub Court...The Judge told me the fine will be maximum up to $2000 per fine (I got 2 offence from URA: a. Folded coupon (b) Refused to give coupon to parking warrant) so total offence maiximum is S$4000.
If I dont plead guilty, go for trial...but chances of winning th case is almost zero..so I plead guilty for both...ask for leniency...the Judge fine me S$1600!!!
URA HAPPY COLLECTING MONEY!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, recently I got a fine with URA for parking coupon&#8230;my young newphew played with the displayed coupon and folded it&#8230;the parking officer saw the coupon been folded and summon me. I have went back to my car and thrown away the coupon without the officer around. but when I went back to may car again later, the parking officer waited at my car and ask for the folded coupon. I told them I have thrown it away, they dont believe and send me n offence of refusing to present coupon to parking warrant. I wne to URA to appeal, I went to MP to appeal&#8230;.but I still have to go to Sub Court&#8230;The Judge told me the fine will be maximum up to $2000 per fine (I got 2 offence from URA: a. Folded coupon (b) Refused to give coupon to parking warrant) so total offence maiximum is S$4000.<br />
If I dont plead guilty, go for trial&#8230;but chances of winning th case is almost zero..so I plead guilty for both&#8230;ask for leniency&#8230;the Judge fine me S$1600!!!<br />
URA HAPPY COLLECTING MONEY!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 05:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got fine recently by town council.  And have successfully appeal off. But guess what ? I still have to pay admin fees which cost me $16. While HDB don&#039;t even charge me a cent if appeal successfully. So, where does this $16 goes ? into their fat bonus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got fine recently by town council.  And have successfully appeal off. But guess what ? I still have to pay admin fees which cost me $16. While HDB don&#8217;t even charge me a cent if appeal successfully. So, where does this $16 goes ? into their fat bonus?</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have this problem to bring up. Everytime I go to Shengsiong Supermarket located at 19 Serangoon North Ave 5 to buy groceries, I always have this problem as the limited carpark slot in Shensiong supermarket. Due to the insufficient carpark slot at Shengsiong Supermarket so I have to go to the HDB carpark(SE33) located at Blk 539,538,540 to park my car. There are limited short-term parking(white colour box) slot as there are more season parking(red colour box) slots than short-term parking(white colour box) slots. Especially on Sunday where there is a lot of people using the carpark. I have a few times being forced to park on the season parking(red colour box) slot. It is dangerous as I will be fined for parking in season parking(red colour box) slot. 
 
My place where I lives there are not such thing like season parking(red colour box) slot designed for the residents living near the carpark. I think the season parking slots should abolished and more short-term parking(white colour box) should implemented on the SE33 carparks especially near Blk 539,538,540 where a lot of people parked their cars to go to Shensiong supermarket to buy groceries which is convenient for the visitors driving to use the HDB carpark(SE33). Sometime I saw the visitors have to park their cars at the path of the carpark road to wait for a short-term parking(white colour box) slot which block the road of the carpark.

Finally I being fined for parking the season parking(red colour box) slot for short period and the signboard out the entrance of the carpark indicate free parking on Sunday and public holidays. I think that is not fair as the season parking(red colour box) slot painted with letter indicate that all time cannot park in the slot which made me angry, it seems like the season parking resident book the whole season parking(red colour box) slot for himself or herself &#039;s(benefits) even he/she is not parking in the season parking(red colour box) slot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have this problem to bring up. Everytime I go to Shengsiong Supermarket located at 19 Serangoon North Ave 5 to buy groceries, I always have this problem as the limited carpark slot in Shensiong supermarket. Due to the insufficient carpark slot at Shengsiong Supermarket so I have to go to the HDB carpark(SE33) located at Blk 539,538,540 to park my car. There are limited short-term parking(white colour box) slot as there are more season parking(red colour box) slots than short-term parking(white colour box) slots. Especially on Sunday where there is a lot of people using the carpark. I have a few times being forced to park on the season parking(red colour box) slot. It is dangerous as I will be fined for parking in season parking(red colour box) slot. </p>
<p>My place where I lives there are not such thing like season parking(red colour box) slot designed for the residents living near the carpark. I think the season parking slots should abolished and more short-term parking(white colour box) should implemented on the SE33 carparks especially near Blk 539,538,540 where a lot of people parked their cars to go to Shensiong supermarket to buy groceries which is convenient for the visitors driving to use the HDB carpark(SE33). Sometime I saw the visitors have to park their cars at the path of the carpark road to wait for a short-term parking(white colour box) slot which block the road of the carpark.</p>
<p>Finally I being fined for parking the season parking(red colour box) slot for short period and the signboard out the entrance of the carpark indicate free parking on Sunday and public holidays. I think that is not fair as the season parking(red colour box) slot painted with letter indicate that all time cannot park in the slot which made me angry, it seems like the season parking resident book the whole season parking(red colour box) slot for himself or herself &#8217;s(benefits) even he/she is not parking in the season parking(red colour box) slot.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that fines are necessary to impose discipline on the people, so that we can enjoy a clearn, order and safe environment. However the fines should be implemented i a compassionate manner that does not cause additional stress and hardship, as follows:

&gt; allow more time to respond
&gt; allow the fine to be paid in installments

Some agencies are quite compassionate in levying the fine. But there are still many other agencies who approach this matter too zealously. They seem to enjoy imposing hardship on the people.

I hope that the collection of the fines should be outsourced to an agency which is more customer-friendly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that fines are necessary to impose discipline on the people, so that we can enjoy a clearn, order and safe environment. However the fines should be implemented i a compassionate manner that does not cause additional stress and hardship, as follows:</p>
<p>&gt; allow more time to respond<br />
&gt; allow the fine to be paid in installments</p>
<p>Some agencies are quite compassionate in levying the fine. But there are still many other agencies who approach this matter too zealously. They seem to enjoy imposing hardship on the people.</p>
<p>I hope that the collection of the fines should be outsourced to an agency which is more customer-friendly.</p>
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		<title>By: Pay And Pay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pay And Pay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet if you ask the people why cannot litter on the streets, do you know what i think the answer will be? The answer will be &#039;cannot litter or kena fine&#039; Very rare will you hear people say something like &#039;it pollutes the envoironment&#039;
The same for parking. Why cannot park at some place? Also because of kena fine. I would like to hear people say that it will cause obstruction or cause hazard to other road users. Why must submit your annual tax income? Because if not kena fine! Not because it&#039;s the right thing to do! Why cannot bring durian aboard the MRT? Because will kena fine! Not because it will cause annoyance to other commuter! Or why cannot smoke in certain places? Not because it&#039;s hazardous to other people&#039;s health! Kena FINE!!! No spitting in public. Why? Or else kena fine! Not because it&#039;s unhygenic! Get the point? Or should I continue?
It&#039;s all about money now. And the gahmen is using money to manipulate the people into doing what they want. Compassion my!@#$%%^
Singapore is a FINE city indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet if you ask the people why cannot litter on the streets, do you know what i think the answer will be? The answer will be &#8216;cannot litter or kena fine&#8217; Very rare will you hear people say something like &#8216;it pollutes the envoironment&#8217;<br />
The same for parking. Why cannot park at some place? Also because of kena fine. I would like to hear people say that it will cause obstruction or cause hazard to other road users. Why must submit your annual tax income? Because if not kena fine! Not because it&#8217;s the right thing to do! Why cannot bring durian aboard the MRT? Because will kena fine! Not because it will cause annoyance to other commuter! Or why cannot smoke in certain places? Not because it&#8217;s hazardous to other people&#8217;s health! Kena FINE!!! No spitting in public. Why? Or else kena fine! Not because it&#8217;s unhygenic! Get the point? Or should I continue?<br />
It&#8217;s all about money now. And the gahmen is using money to manipulate the people into doing what they want. Compassion my!@#$%%^<br />
Singapore is a FINE city indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite the imposition of the fine system in every industry, there still remains incompleteness in the form of media piracy and drug trafficking. This shows that the usefulness of the fine system is limited to a certain extent and a much better alternative solution needs to be implemented in place instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite the imposition of the fine system in every industry, there still remains incompleteness in the form of media piracy and drug trafficking. This shows that the usefulness of the fine system is limited to a certain extent and a much better alternative solution needs to be implemented in place instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Tahan Terus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singapore Tahan Terus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:32:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tan,

&quot;I hope that Goverhment officals can be compassionate and considerate in the exercise of their power.&quot;

Actually they are quite compassionate and considerate as they would waive the fine for the first offence. But then there are so many lorry drivers in every HDB flat, imagine if the officials were to be compassinate and considerate towards every lorry drivers who wants to park their oversized lorries below their block, I am sure the other residents would also come out in arms to protest that the lorries are creating noises and pollutions let alone posing safety hazards to the residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tan,</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope that Goverhment officals can be compassionate and considerate in the exercise of their power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually they are quite compassionate and considerate as they would waive the fine for the first offence. But then there are so many lorry drivers in every HDB flat, imagine if the officials were to be compassinate and considerate towards every lorry drivers who wants to park their oversized lorries below their block, I am sure the other residents would also come out in arms to protest that the lorries are creating noises and pollutions let alone posing safety hazards to the residents.</p>
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		<title>By: Singapore Tahan Terus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singapore Tahan Terus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 07:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$25 fine for failing to pay $110 of TV license.
$5 fine for late payment of Town Council fee of $61.50.

but then ... for years, the authorities are unable to tackle the issues of illegal advertising stickers (property agents, tution agencies, exam-papers peddlers, swimming instructors, locksmiths, &quot;legal cash&quot; etc) pasted at lamp posts, traffic signs, bus shelters, lift lobbies, letter boxes etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$25 fine for failing to pay $110 of TV license.<br />
$5 fine for late payment of Town Council fee of $61.50.</p>
<p>but then &#8230; for years, the authorities are unable to tackle the issues of illegal advertising stickers (property agents, tution agencies, exam-papers peddlers, swimming instructors, locksmiths, &#8220;legal cash&#8221; etc) pasted at lamp posts, traffic signs, bus shelters, lift lobbies, letter boxes etc.</p>
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		<title>By: gtiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>gtiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mr Tan, my dad had tried everything he could.
1) Park with overnight coupon, kena fined.
2) Park with season ticket, kena fined.
3) Consult with HDB for a solution, their reply &quot;Sorry, cannot park.&quot;
4) Consult with MP. &quot;Sorry, cannot park downstairs. Have to park far away, then walk, cycle or take bus back to your OWN house.&quot;

Maybe the last resort could be to ask my parents to join the grassroot, then stick the town council decal or PAP decal onto the lorry and hoped that it will be immune to fine. Wonder if this might work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr Tan, my dad had tried everything he could.<br />
1) Park with overnight coupon, kena fined.<br />
2) Park with season ticket, kena fined.<br />
3) Consult with HDB for a solution, their reply &#8220;Sorry, cannot park.&#8221;<br />
4) Consult with MP. &#8220;Sorry, cannot park downstairs. Have to park far away, then walk, cycle or take bus back to your OWN house.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe the last resort could be to ask my parents to join the grassroot, then stick the town council decal or PAP decal onto the lorry and hoped that it will be immune to fine. Wonder if this might work?</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope that Government officials who implement fines realise that the person who is being fined is an ordinary citizen trying to make a living, and that the offence may be unintended. 

It is not just a matter of implementing the law rigorously, and exercising the power granted by the law. There is a saying that &quot;power corrupts&quot; and &quot;absolute power corrups absolutely&quot;. This saying can be applied to the top level in the Government, but it can also be applied to the lower levels.

I hope that Goverhment officals can be compassionate and considerate in the exercise of their power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope that Government officials who implement fines realise that the person who is being fined is an ordinary citizen trying to make a living, and that the offence may be unintended. </p>
<p>It is not just a matter of implementing the law rigorously, and exercising the power granted by the law. There is a saying that &#8220;power corrupts&#8221; and &#8220;absolute power corrups absolutely&#8221;. This saying can be applied to the top level in the Government, but it can also be applied to the lower levels.</p>
<p>I hope that Goverhment officals can be compassionate and considerate in the exercise of their power.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi gtiong

You should give a try and ask your MP to get HDB to allow parking of lorries in open parking places nearer to your father&#039;s flat. This special space should be reserved for vehicles that cannot enter the multi-story carpark. I think that your father has a case, so it give it a try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi gtiong</p>
<p>You should give a try and ask your MP to get HDB to allow parking of lorries in open parking places nearer to your father&#8217;s flat. This special space should be reserved for vehicles that cannot enter the multi-story carpark. I think that your father has a case, so it give it a try.</p>
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		<title>By: gtiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>gtiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mr Tan, thanks for your suggestion, but I doubt I will give it a try as it will be just like walking into a brick wall.

Actually there are 3 issues that I would like to bring out resulting from my dad&#039;s incident and they are not entirely personal.

1) Why did HDB build housing estate with only multi-storey carpark without any open-spaced parking lot? Haven&#039;t the experience of building flats in the past with lift that does not stops at every floor taught them anything? HDB did not spare a thought for the elderly and handicapped in the past, now they also doesn&#039;t spare a thought for SME or low-income workers. Is these all in the name of cost cutting?

2) Like what Mr Tan had commented, the inflexibility of government agencies. Add this to the over-zealousness of third-party parking wardens and we would get plenty of fines, plenty of appeal and plenty of &quot;automated&quot; rejection by HDB/URA.

3) I understand the difficulty an MP might faced especially when they are thrown with difficult questions. If he is unable to give me a good solution on the spot, at least he can show some sincerity by giving me an assurance that he will address it and follow up with me at a later date. What I cannot accept is someone who think up some crap solutions and throw them to me. They are elected to help with residence&#039;s concern, not shoved our problem to one side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr Tan, thanks for your suggestion, but I doubt I will give it a try as it will be just like walking into a brick wall.</p>
<p>Actually there are 3 issues that I would like to bring out resulting from my dad&#8217;s incident and they are not entirely personal.</p>
<p>1) Why did HDB build housing estate with only multi-storey carpark without any open-spaced parking lot? Haven&#8217;t the experience of building flats in the past with lift that does not stops at every floor taught them anything? HDB did not spare a thought for the elderly and handicapped in the past, now they also doesn&#8217;t spare a thought for SME or low-income workers. Is these all in the name of cost cutting?</p>
<p>2) Like what Mr Tan had commented, the inflexibility of government agencies. Add this to the over-zealousness of third-party parking wardens and we would get plenty of fines, plenty of appeal and plenty of &#8220;automated&#8221; rejection by HDB/URA.</p>
<p>3) I understand the difficulty an MP might faced especially when they are thrown with difficult questions. If he is unable to give me a good solution on the spot, at least he can show some sincerity by giving me an assurance that he will address it and follow up with me at a later date. What I cannot accept is someone who think up some crap solutions and throw them to me. They are elected to help with residence&#8217;s concern, not shoved our problem to one side.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9394</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The letter on my ERP parking offence arrived today. The LTA officer, who was supposed to call me, did not call. I was asked to pay the ERP charge of $1 plus the administration fee of $10.

They gave me a whole list of ways to pay the fine, including the AXS terminal (that I had a lot of trouble a few years ago).

I opt to pay through the www.onemotoring.com.sg website.

I accessed their homepage. It contained 100 items of information. I search all over the place and found a link called &quot;Pay ERP fine&quot;. That is wonderful.

This link led me to another webpage. Another round of searching through this wepage. There was a link called &quot;Pay ERP fine&quot;. That is wonderful.

This link led me to an interactive page that showed me how to pay the fine. I do not need this e-guide. I only wanted to pay the fine and get done. I search all over the page for the place to make my payment. There was none.

I cancelled this page and went back to the previous page. I searched again for another link to make payment. Then I saw a notice that the LTA payment webpage is undergoing some updating and is not available for another hour. I think that I must have real bad luck.

I wasted 15 minutes for this troublesome way to make payment - and failed.

I read the notice again, and found that I could pay through my bank&#039;s website. Let me go and try that wonderful option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The letter on my ERP parking offence arrived today. The LTA officer, who was supposed to call me, did not call. I was asked to pay the ERP charge of $1 plus the administration fee of $10.</p>
<p>They gave me a whole list of ways to pay the fine, including the AXS terminal (that I had a lot of trouble a few years ago).</p>
<p>I opt to pay through the <a href="http://www.onemotoring.com.sg" rel="nofollow">http://www.onemotoring.com.sg</a> website.</p>
<p>I accessed their homepage. It contained 100 items of information. I search all over the place and found a link called &#8220;Pay ERP fine&#8221;. That is wonderful.</p>
<p>This link led me to another webpage. Another round of searching through this wepage. There was a link called &#8220;Pay ERP fine&#8221;. That is wonderful.</p>
<p>This link led me to an interactive page that showed me how to pay the fine. I do not need this e-guide. I only wanted to pay the fine and get done. I search all over the page for the place to make my payment. There was none.</p>
<p>I cancelled this page and went back to the previous page. I searched again for another link to make payment. Then I saw a notice that the LTA payment webpage is undergoing some updating and is not available for another hour. I think that I must have real bad luck.</p>
<p>I wasted 15 minutes for this troublesome way to make payment &#8211; and failed.</p>
<p>I read the notice again, and found that I could pay through my bank&#8217;s website. Let me go and try that wonderful option.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9391</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:25:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to share an example of an inconsiderate Government agency - the URA Car Park division.

I received a FIRST REMINDER/ REQUET FOR DRIVER&#039;S PARTICULAR for a parking offence held on a specific day at a specific plan.

I did not receive any earlier notification. This reminder was mailed on 31 May and expires on 6 June, a period of 7 days.  (Fortunately, I happened to open the mail today. Otherwise, I may miss the short deadline).

I am asked to pay a composition fine of $6. I wanted to write a cheque. I do not know who to pay the money to - so I left the payee blank. 

I am also required to provide the particulars of the driver. The car is used by my family. So, I have to asked my wife, son and daughter who is the offender and for their particulars. 

It is an unnecessary hassle for me. This is a minor parking offence, i.e. expiry of the parking coupon.

I hope that URA will be more compassionate and make life easy for minor offences.





www.tankinlian.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to share an example of an inconsiderate Government agency &#8211; the URA Car Park division.</p>
<p>I received a FIRST REMINDER/ REQUET FOR DRIVER&#8217;S PARTICULAR for a parking offence held on a specific day at a specific plan.</p>
<p>I did not receive any earlier notification. This reminder was mailed on 31 May and expires on 6 June, a period of 7 days.  (Fortunately, I happened to open the mail today. Otherwise, I may miss the short deadline).</p>
<p>I am asked to pay a composition fine of $6. I wanted to write a cheque. I do not know who to pay the money to &#8211; so I left the payee blank. </p>
<p>I am also required to provide the particulars of the driver. The car is used by my family. So, I have to asked my wife, son and daughter who is the offender and for their particulars. </p>
<p>It is an unnecessary hassle for me. This is a minor parking offence, i.e. expiry of the parking coupon.</p>
<p>I hope that URA will be more compassionate and make life easy for minor offences.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tankinlian.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tankinlian.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alan Wong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9307</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best part is that our petty Gahmen will not hesitate to send you a summons of arrest when you forget to pay the annual TV licence fee.  

It is as if the offence of not paying the TV licence fee is as serious as killing someone.  

That must be the best joke about our Gahmen,  especially even when our neighbour up north has already abandoned collecting monies from its citizens for watching something like 5 or 6 TV channels for free.

Really unique Singapore,   sometimes hopelessly lack of any compassion.
Just like the old man and his son.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part is that our petty Gahmen will not hesitate to send you a summons of arrest when you forget to pay the annual TV licence fee.  </p>
<p>It is as if the offence of not paying the TV licence fee is as serious as killing someone.  </p>
<p>That must be the best joke about our Gahmen,  especially even when our neighbour up north has already abandoned collecting monies from its citizens for watching something like 5 or 6 TV channels for free.</p>
<p>Really unique Singapore,   sometimes hopelessly lack of any compassion.<br />
Just like the old man and his son.</p>
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		<title>By: MG</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9273</link>
		<dc:creator>MG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 02:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually the system is not that bad la.

Offenders can be given more time to settle the fine. If the government officer refuses to accede to your request, just go to court and ask. You&#039;d usually get about 4 weeks or so.

There&#039;s also usually no need to see the officer in person to compound the fine. This can usually be done in writing.

Instalment payments are also possible. Just go to court and ask.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually the system is not that bad la.</p>
<p>Offenders can be given more time to settle the fine. If the government officer refuses to accede to your request, just go to court and ask. You&#8217;d usually get about 4 weeks or so.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also usually no need to see the officer in person to compound the fine. This can usually be done in writing.</p>
<p>Instalment payments are also possible. Just go to court and ask.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9270</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction:

Many government officers implement fines according to the book. They are reluctant to be flexible. Either they do not have the flexibility or they are unwilling to exercise it.

I hope that there is a system of empowering the officer to exercise flexibility and discretion. They should use their judgement. We will then have a more compassionate culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction:</p>
<p>Many government officers implement fines according to the book. They are reluctant to be flexible. Either they do not have the flexibility or they are unwilling to exercise it.</p>
<p>I hope that there is a system of empowering the officer to exercise flexibility and discretion. They should use their judgement. We will then have a more compassionate culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/a-compassionate-%e2%80%9cfine%e2%80%9d-system/comment-page-1/#comment-9269</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 01:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My government officers implement fines according to the book. They are reluctant to be flexible. Either they do not have the flexibility or they are unwilling to exercise it.

I hope that there is a system of empowering the officer to exercise flexibility and discretion. They should use their judgement. We will then have a more compassionate culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My government officers implement fines according to the book. They are reluctant to be flexible. Either they do not have the flexibility or they are unwilling to exercise it.</p>
<p>I hope that there is a system of empowering the officer to exercise flexibility and discretion. They should use their judgement. We will then have a more compassionate culture.</p>
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