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		<title>By: defender</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/subsidies-cannot-solve-problems-mm-lee/comment-page-2/#comment-13478</link>
		<dc:creator>defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me answer to your question &quot;Always be humble&quot;.

1,) Why they privatize most Government sectors including hospitals: So that they can siphon more more from citizens. And if the opposition should take over, they have nothing left to support. Remember this, to fight a war, one need good logistic.

2.) Why Singtel belongs to Temasek Holding?: Well, firstly the call shot is Ho Ching which is LHL wife. The government (PAP) is playing it right, they say the Government got nothing to do inside. But why is LHL wife doing inside there? For example you are a government servant and has rule that you are not allowed to do moonlighting. So fine; what you need to do is to register a company directly under your parents, wife, brothers etc name. At the end of the day, the profit is still yours.

3.) SIA and Shipyard are the most important part of PAP assets. That why if anything goes wrong in SIA, MM Lee will appear and you will see people getting sacked, PR Revoke and etc.

Oh the 300+ billions, hahahahaha, ya right. All now maybe either invested in USB or Citi Group, China investments, India investments and etc. Then they will loose money and increase GST, Tax, Fuel, Transportations, ERP and many more. Because they know citizens won&#039;t dare to fight back, not like other countries. They know our citizens are bunch of scared to fight back people. So they will implement whatever they think it&#039;s possible to squeeze the money out from citizens.

Like buying HDB flat, why must we pay deposit in solid cash? That is stupid isn&#039;t it? We have our money in the CPF, so we have the rights to do what we want with our money. It is not for the PAP or Government to tell what to do; WE TELL THEM WHAT TO DO! They take salary from us and they are working for us. If the citizens don;t vote for them in 1959, they will be worst off the any other opposition parties valid.

So Singaporeans, time to wake up and let them know we are united and this is our homeland and we work for it and they enjoy the fruits. Wait till old man die, I would want to see his dear family get into trouble as bad as Thaksin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me answer to your question &#8220;Always be humble&#8221;.</p>
<p>1,) Why they privatize most Government sectors including hospitals: So that they can siphon more more from citizens. And if the opposition should take over, they have nothing left to support. Remember this, to fight a war, one need good logistic.</p>
<p>2.) Why Singtel belongs to Temasek Holding?: Well, firstly the call shot is Ho Ching which is LHL wife. The government (PAP) is playing it right, they say the Government got nothing to do inside. But why is LHL wife doing inside there? For example you are a government servant and has rule that you are not allowed to do moonlighting. So fine; what you need to do is to register a company directly under your parents, wife, brothers etc name. At the end of the day, the profit is still yours.</p>
<p>3.) SIA and Shipyard are the most important part of PAP assets. That why if anything goes wrong in SIA, MM Lee will appear and you will see people getting sacked, PR Revoke and etc.</p>
<p>Oh the 300+ billions, hahahahaha, ya right. All now maybe either invested in USB or Citi Group, China investments, India investments and etc. Then they will loose money and increase GST, Tax, Fuel, Transportations, ERP and many more. Because they know citizens won&#8217;t dare to fight back, not like other countries. They know our citizens are bunch of scared to fight back people. So they will implement whatever they think it&#8217;s possible to squeeze the money out from citizens.</p>
<p>Like buying HDB flat, why must we pay deposit in solid cash? That is stupid isn&#8217;t it? We have our money in the CPF, so we have the rights to do what we want with our money. It is not for the PAP or Government to tell what to do; WE TELL THEM WHAT TO DO! They take salary from us and they are working for us. If the citizens don;t vote for them in 1959, they will be worst off the any other opposition parties valid.</p>
<p>So Singaporeans, time to wake up and let them know we are united and this is our homeland and we work for it and they enjoy the fruits. Wait till old man die, I would want to see his dear family get into trouble as bad as Thaksin.</p>
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		<title>By: Always be humble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Always be humble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But then again, the new Government will be left with nothing. Why?
1.) Most of the Government sectors are already private listed company including hospitals.
2.) Singtel is belongs to Temasek Holding
3.) SIA or even Shipyards are also partly belongs to PAP&quot;

Learn from some countries like Russia, Venezuela and Malaysia too (remember Clob). 

When you are the new government, you call the shot and you make the rules (new rules). The collective will of the people reigns supreme. 

There is such a thing called re-nationalization which has been practised and nothing new. There are no dearth of experts on these areas. The right price has to be paid only. Hey I thought we have 300+ billions right ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But then again, the new Government will be left with nothing. Why?<br />
1.) Most of the Government sectors are already private listed company including hospitals.<br />
2.) Singtel is belongs to Temasek Holding<br />
3.) SIA or even Shipyards are also partly belongs to PAP&#8221;</p>
<p>Learn from some countries like Russia, Venezuela and Malaysia too (remember Clob). </p>
<p>When you are the new government, you call the shot and you make the rules (new rules). The collective will of the people reigns supreme. </p>
<p>There is such a thing called re-nationalization which has been practised and nothing new. There are no dearth of experts on these areas. The right price has to be paid only. Hey I thought we have 300+ billions right ?</p>
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		<title>By: I need subsidies</title>
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		<dc:creator>I need subsidies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Subsidies cannot solve problems&quot;

Subsidies cannot solve THEIR problems.
 
                           BUT

Subsidies can surely solve OUR problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Subsidies cannot solve problems&#8221;</p>
<p>Subsidies cannot solve THEIR problems.</p>
<p>                           BUT</p>
<p>Subsidies can surely solve OUR problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Defender</title>
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		<dc:creator>Defender</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MM Lee is loosing his edge and he knew that his new Government is a total failure this time around. 

There are many things the PAP did was not to the people&#039;s heart. In most of the news media we see, it&#039;s all a propoganda. Most of the people attending to most of their events are always well arranged by the RC/ Grassroots leaders to put on a show as if they are very welcome and well received. Like movies, there is always &quot;Behind the scene&quot;.

From elections to investments, there is not a single stuff that pleased the people. Worst of all Ho Ching is the holding power of Temasek. 

In any Governance, the PAP should not be monopolizing using Temasek Holding in most dealing. The Government has already been receiving pay and they should not in anyway get involve in any transactional business.

During election, PM Lee said and used the word &quot;Fix the opposition&quot;. That is a serious issue and I believe that Singaporean will never forget what was said. 

Today, the citizen are not stupid anymore. They can judge for themselves and I strong believe the PAP will not be the call shot in time to come. But then again, the new Government will be left with nothing. Why?
1.) Most of the Government sectors are already private listed company including hospitals.
2.) Singtel is belongs to Temasek Holding
3.) SIA  or even Shipyards are also partly belongs to PAP

So from here we all can see, this is not Singapore; it is Lee&#039;s Empire. maybe he should change the pledge as it does not reflect to what we are receiving or what they do. maybe I should compose a pledge for it:

We the citizens of Lee Dynasty
Pledge ourselves as one united slaves
Regardless of race, language or religion
To build a dictatorship society
there will be no justice and equality
So as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress
for the Lee family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MM Lee is loosing his edge and he knew that his new Government is a total failure this time around. </p>
<p>There are many things the PAP did was not to the people&#8217;s heart. In most of the news media we see, it&#8217;s all a propoganda. Most of the people attending to most of their events are always well arranged by the RC/ Grassroots leaders to put on a show as if they are very welcome and well received. Like movies, there is always &#8220;Behind the scene&#8221;.</p>
<p>From elections to investments, there is not a single stuff that pleased the people. Worst of all Ho Ching is the holding power of Temasek. </p>
<p>In any Governance, the PAP should not be monopolizing using Temasek Holding in most dealing. The Government has already been receiving pay and they should not in anyway get involve in any transactional business.</p>
<p>During election, PM Lee said and used the word &#8220;Fix the opposition&#8221;. That is a serious issue and I believe that Singaporean will never forget what was said. </p>
<p>Today, the citizen are not stupid anymore. They can judge for themselves and I strong believe the PAP will not be the call shot in time to come. But then again, the new Government will be left with nothing. Why?<br />
1.) Most of the Government sectors are already private listed company including hospitals.<br />
2.) Singtel is belongs to Temasek Holding<br />
3.) SIA  or even Shipyards are also partly belongs to PAP</p>
<p>So from here we all can see, this is not Singapore; it is Lee&#8217;s Empire. maybe he should change the pledge as it does not reflect to what we are receiving or what they do. maybe I should compose a pledge for it:</p>
<p>We the citizens of Lee Dynasty<br />
Pledge ourselves as one united slaves<br />
Regardless of race, language or religion<br />
To build a dictatorship society<br />
there will be no justice and equality<br />
So as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress<br />
for the Lee family.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/subsidies-cannot-solve-problems-mm-lee/comment-page-2/#comment-9035</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 10:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did all of you see the AVA video on TV regarding eating FROZEN FOOD? The way the actress tasting the roasted chicken and &quot;yummeee look&quot;. 

Gahmen instead of lowering GST and classify some basic food items with subsidies are busy making videos to brainwash us. To tell us buy cheaper food, is that a solution? There are poor people who are buying frozen food and feeling the pinch as well. How about milk powder for children can they make cheaper alternative? 

More good years? Golden period of Singapore? What a load of crap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did all of you see the AVA video on TV regarding eating FROZEN FOOD? The way the actress tasting the roasted chicken and &#8220;yummeee look&#8221;. </p>
<p>Gahmen instead of lowering GST and classify some basic food items with subsidies are busy making videos to brainwash us. To tell us buy cheaper food, is that a solution? There are poor people who are buying frozen food and feeling the pinch as well. How about milk powder for children can they make cheaper alternative? </p>
<p>More good years? Golden period of Singapore? What a load of crap!</p>
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		<title>By: Rakesh Rai</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/subsidies-cannot-solve-problems-mm-lee/comment-page-2/#comment-8937</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakesh Rai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 18:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like someone mentioned here, if subsidies are not the answer then what is the solution to this impending problem. If we don&#039;t address the issue now, there will a significant growth in poverty due to the food shortage and the inflation. 

Also could someone explain to me (if there&#039;s an explaination!) why the government subsidises fees for foreign students at SMU. I have no grudge against anyone who deserves to study here. Still the question of priority comes to mind. The few thousands of dollars subsidy for foreigners is justified but not the few dollars for the citizen. 

http://www.smu.edu.sg/admissions/fees_financial/fees_financial_assistance.html#tuitionfees</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like someone mentioned here, if subsidies are not the answer then what is the solution to this impending problem. If we don&#8217;t address the issue now, there will a significant growth in poverty due to the food shortage and the inflation. </p>
<p>Also could someone explain to me (if there&#8217;s an explaination!) why the government subsidises fees for foreign students at SMU. I have no grudge against anyone who deserves to study here. Still the question of priority comes to mind. The few thousands of dollars subsidy for foreigners is justified but not the few dollars for the citizen. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.smu.edu.sg/admissions/fees_financial/fees_financial_assistance.html#tuitionfees" rel="nofollow">http://www.smu.edu.sg/admissions/fees_financial/fees_financial_assistance.html#tuitionfees</a></p>
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		<title>By: Food Shortage</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/subsidies-cannot-solve-problems-mm-lee/comment-page-2/#comment-8928</link>
		<dc:creator>Food Shortage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Soon, I predict that there will be serious food shortages in non food producing nations (I hope that I will be wrong) - it is not that the nation has no money to buy the basic food necessities - it will be others not selling to us. Then what ? Whatever investments made cannot help much. Couple it with continuous petrol price hike as it is happening now, subsidies cannot solve problems - when crystal balling the future turn out to be correct.
So dear fellow citizens, please prepare and brace yourselves.
Also as our thoughtful Health Minister had said to the effect of - &quot;help others whenever you can - life can be unpredictable&quot;.
It is really the time to open our hearts and minds.
TOC, thank you for the platform to cry out..........................................................................</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soon, I predict that there will be serious food shortages in non food producing nations (I hope that I will be wrong) &#8211; it is not that the nation has no money to buy the basic food necessities &#8211; it will be others not selling to us. Then what ? Whatever investments made cannot help much. Couple it with continuous petrol price hike as it is happening now, subsidies cannot solve problems &#8211; when crystal balling the future turn out to be correct.<br />
So dear fellow citizens, please prepare and brace yourselves.<br />
Also as our thoughtful Health Minister had said to the effect of &#8211; &#8220;help others whenever you can &#8211; life can be unpredictable&#8221;.<br />
It is really the time to open our hearts and minds.<br />
TOC, thank you for the platform to cry out&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jie Kai</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/subsidies-cannot-solve-problems-mm-lee/comment-page-2/#comment-8919</link>
		<dc:creator>Jie Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr Lee, for telling us the obvious. No one in their right mind actually argues that we should ignore economic growth and dole out handouts for all. That is  just not how you run a country. 

I agree that subsidies in general are a bad idea- but not because they lead to slow growth. For example, if you have a blanket subsidy on say, petrol ( as malaysia and indonesia do), it isn&#039;t economically efficient because industries will tend to use the fuel wastefully. It also tends to be a drain on public money which can be used more usefully elsewhere ( like investing in good schools and hospitals). 

But if by subsidy he means not even allowing targeted help at vulnerable people, because this would make them idle and unproductive ( which I think he&#039;s talking about),  that&#039;s also only half-true. It depends on how you carry out the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Lee, for telling us the obvious. No one in their right mind actually argues that we should ignore economic growth and dole out handouts for all. That is  just not how you run a country. </p>
<p>I agree that subsidies in general are a bad idea- but not because they lead to slow growth. For example, if you have a blanket subsidy on say, petrol ( as malaysia and indonesia do), it isn&#8217;t economically efficient because industries will tend to use the fuel wastefully. It also tends to be a drain on public money which can be used more usefully elsewhere ( like investing in good schools and hospitals). </p>
<p>But if by subsidy he means not even allowing targeted help at vulnerable people, because this would make them idle and unproductive ( which I think he&#8217;s talking about),  that&#8217;s also only half-true. It depends on how you carry out the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question for my dear PM.

Who is the PM? Why is it always the crappy stuffs are communicate through MM? Who is running the gahmen? PM or MM? Who did we vote for as PM? We definitely like to see our dear PM taking issues to task personally and give support to the needy. He must be seen with strong leadership and not keep telling daddy to do the dirty talks. Does MM said represent PM &#039;s views? Who is taking charge?

A very confusing leadership is born when there are too many cooks to spoil the soup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question for my dear PM.</p>
<p>Who is the PM? Why is it always the crappy stuffs are communicate through MM? Who is running the gahmen? PM or MM? Who did we vote for as PM? We definitely like to see our dear PM taking issues to task personally and give support to the needy. He must be seen with strong leadership and not keep telling daddy to do the dirty talks. Does MM said represent PM &#8217;s views? Who is taking charge?</p>
<p>A very confusing leadership is born when there are too many cooks to spoil the soup.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 09:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elfred,

What you mentioned is very sad indeed? How did the Gahmen ensure we are paid well and not be cut throat by cheap foreign talent? Look at other countries, where jobs are for locals only and are paid well. Even FT who are qualified cant apply. Here in SG, we are competing we FT neck to neck. How life in my once lovely SG has become?

Sad isn&#039;t it.

FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elfred,</p>
<p>What you mentioned is very sad indeed? How did the Gahmen ensure we are paid well and not be cut throat by cheap foreign talent? Look at other countries, where jobs are for locals only and are paid well. Even FT who are qualified cant apply. Here in SG, we are competing we FT neck to neck. How life in my once lovely SG has become?</p>
<p>Sad isn&#8217;t it.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: Elfred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elfred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 08:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I graduated, the leaders said alot of things...
Over many many years of unemployment... I read this line and feel so sad:
&quot;The Government must &lt;b&gt;ensure&lt;/b&gt; that everyone has the highest-paid job he is qualified to do.&quot;

This is something I don&#039;t know what to say about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I graduated, the leaders said alot of things&#8230;<br />
Over many many years of unemployment&#8230; I read this line and feel so sad:<br />
&#8220;The Government must <b>ensure</b> that everyone has the highest-paid job he is qualified to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is something I don&#8217;t know what to say about it.</p>
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		<title>By: CelluloidReality</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelluloidReality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 05:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bluey, 

You&#039;re right on how the salad bowl has contributed to a lack of real integration like a melting pot, where policies cannot be subtly tuned for a divide-and-rule outcome. 

The latter is what we&#039;re experiencing now, the former is what we were supposed to achieve, or get on the road to acheiving. I have always believed that a true encompassing Singaporean identity, is a cultural vehicle for greater citizen empowerment and a sense of ownership in all matters concerning this nation, be it policymaking or consumption of policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bluey, </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right on how the salad bowl has contributed to a lack of real integration like a melting pot, where policies cannot be subtly tuned for a divide-and-rule outcome. </p>
<p>The latter is what we&#8217;re experiencing now, the former is what we were supposed to achieve, or get on the road to acheiving. I have always believed that a true encompassing Singaporean identity, is a cultural vehicle for greater citizen empowerment and a sense of ownership in all matters concerning this nation, be it policymaking or consumption of policies.</p>
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		<title>By: ACACIA</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACACIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very sad indeed that the Lee Kuan Yew has  left such a bad impression on us. No doubt he has done  much good for  the country in the past. My parents, in their 70s&#039; had such  good impressions and support for him and the PAP has taken a 180 degree turn! It says alot of him and it is long overdue for him to graciously step down and contribute in other ways to the country especially in the area of non profit organisations which I have not seen him do, maybe so much as to make  donations though. 

I think then he will be remembered more fondly as a great leader both in the political and  social areas. Perhaps then too he can empathise with his countryman.  For that  matter SM should also  step down. Well the reason they are still around is because of their seats.  On the same breath I do not have much confidence and hope for our PM. He has not shown his worth and  mettle. The days of great  leaders for us are over.  Our  current leaders are very comfortable where they are. I think this whole thing about meritocracy has certainly has it downsides. It has become a &quot;given&quot; , all the  perks and what not.

Now it the time for the leaders to show their worth in our difficult times, but I doubt, they  dare not break the  lion&#039;s back as long as LKY is around. 

Remember the phrase, &quot;not leave any stones unturned&quot;. At that time I thought it is just lip service. At the end of the day we always have to suffer and put up with their policies which are beginning to have a shorter and shorter life span and run out date. Good luck to  all!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very sad indeed that the Lee Kuan Yew has  left such a bad impression on us. No doubt he has done  much good for  the country in the past. My parents, in their 70s&#8217; had such  good impressions and support for him and the PAP has taken a 180 degree turn! It says alot of him and it is long overdue for him to graciously step down and contribute in other ways to the country especially in the area of non profit organisations which I have not seen him do, maybe so much as to make  donations though. </p>
<p>I think then he will be remembered more fondly as a great leader both in the political and  social areas. Perhaps then too he can empathise with his countryman.  For that  matter SM should also  step down. Well the reason they are still around is because of their seats.  On the same breath I do not have much confidence and hope for our PM. He has not shown his worth and  mettle. The days of great  leaders for us are over.  Our  current leaders are very comfortable where they are. I think this whole thing about meritocracy has certainly has it downsides. It has become a &#8220;given&#8221; , all the  perks and what not.</p>
<p>Now it the time for the leaders to show their worth in our difficult times, but I doubt, they  dare not break the  lion&#8217;s back as long as LKY is around. </p>
<p>Remember the phrase, &#8220;not leave any stones unturned&#8221;. At that time I thought it is just lip service. At the end of the day we always have to suffer and put up with their policies which are beginning to have a shorter and shorter life span and run out date. Good luck to  all!!</p>
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		<title>By: singapoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>singapoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>subsidies cannot solve problems but it can remove hardships of the poor and struggling!!!! thats precisely why the world uses it. the whole purpose of subsidies is not to solve problems. 

as for the some problems that MAY (may only) come along with using subsidies, the remedy is to remove subsidies only in very few  instances and in most instances the remedy is to INTELLIGENTLY set up and regulate using appropriate checks and balances. this is ECONOMICS 101 which isnt taught in law classes.

frankly what can solve all problems? letting market decide all the time? a total &quot;pay for each and every thing&quot; based system?  creating a largest pie possible and letting all fight for it? growth growth growth? money money money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>subsidies cannot solve problems but it can remove hardships of the poor and struggling!!!! thats precisely why the world uses it. the whole purpose of subsidies is not to solve problems. </p>
<p>as for the some problems that MAY (may only) come along with using subsidies, the remedy is to remove subsidies only in very few  instances and in most instances the remedy is to INTELLIGENTLY set up and regulate using appropriate checks and balances. this is ECONOMICS 101 which isnt taught in law classes.</p>
<p>frankly what can solve all problems? letting market decide all the time? a total &#8220;pay for each and every thing&#8221; based system?  creating a largest pie possible and letting all fight for it? growth growth growth? money money money?</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ned, that was what UMNO thought so too until the day after 8 March 2008. Look for today&#039;s papers for the comments by Najib regarding blogs...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned, that was what UMNO thought so too until the day after 8 March 2008. Look for today&#8217;s papers for the comments by Najib regarding blogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dead Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dead Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subsidies cannot solve problems and neither can our over paid million dollar ministers. Why? As we have been repeated ly told &quot;Its a gloabl problem&quot;. 

We must take the bitter bill and hope that government keeps helping the poor by raising GST, taxes, utility charges, S&amp;C charges, ERP charges, parking charges and not to forget also help the big banks overseas by bailing them out. 

Well the buzz word with ailing banks is to approach Singapore if you need cash...we have proven at least to the rest of the world or the financial players that we are a first world country with leadership not accountable to any screw ups and a out of this world salary</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subsidies cannot solve problems and neither can our over paid million dollar ministers. Why? As we have been repeated ly told &#8220;Its a gloabl problem&#8221;. </p>
<p>We must take the bitter bill and hope that government keeps helping the poor by raising GST, taxes, utility charges, S&amp;C charges, ERP charges, parking charges and not to forget also help the big banks overseas by bailing them out. </p>
<p>Well the buzz word with ailing banks is to approach Singapore if you need cash&#8230;we have proven at least to the rest of the world or the financial players that we are a first world country with leadership not accountable to any screw ups and a out of this world salary</p>
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		<title>By: bluey</title>
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		<dc:creator>bluey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ned Stark
You are right. But also, the openess of the internet that allows the converted to share and pool ideas forthrightly in order to refine our perception of the incumbent government that is calculatively transparent and otherwise difficult to analyse with a state censored media articulating their words. 

I think what Lee meant is that subsidies should only be used to spur growth and not used to pacify dissent --- aka as charity elephant. 
One thing&#039;s for sure, the Singapore government is functioning like a real-estate corporation deciding for itself on how to use the land to maximise profits while keeping its paying tenants from unrest. 
Also, from Lee&#039;s statement, he has this presumptive attitude of how and what Singapore should be as opposed to what the citizens desire. 
Yes he may be listening, but only takes suggestions that agree with what the pary has in mind before they even started listening. In the end, PAP decides all-powerfully  while our useless President idly goes by doing his household chores.

PAP is powerful because Singapore is a divided lot of cultures and hence thinking.  One thing i would vote for is for the integration of the cultures in Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ned Stark<br />
You are right. But also, the openess of the internet that allows the converted to share and pool ideas forthrightly in order to refine our perception of the incumbent government that is calculatively transparent and otherwise difficult to analyse with a state censored media articulating their words. </p>
<p>I think what Lee meant is that subsidies should only be used to spur growth and not used to pacify dissent &#8212; aka as charity elephant.<br />
One thing&#8217;s for sure, the Singapore government is functioning like a real-estate corporation deciding for itself on how to use the land to maximise profits while keeping its paying tenants from unrest.<br />
Also, from Lee&#8217;s statement, he has this presumptive attitude of how and what Singapore should be as opposed to what the citizens desire.<br />
Yes he may be listening, but only takes suggestions that agree with what the pary has in mind before they even started listening. In the end, PAP decides all-powerfully  while our useless President idly goes by doing his household chores.</p>
<p>PAP is powerful because Singapore is a divided lot of cultures and hence thinking.  One thing i would vote for is for the integration of the cultures in Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Stark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ned Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shirley,
Well 50 over comments arent reflective of the Singapore voters... many of us here can be said to be &quot;converterd&quot;. thus what happens online is more akin to preaching to the converted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shirley,<br />
Well 50 over comments arent reflective of the Singapore voters&#8230; many of us here can be said to be &#8220;converterd&#8221;. thus what happens online is more akin to preaching to the converted.</p>
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		<title>By: Yi Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yi Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 18:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to suggest that it&#039;s not so much of a subsidy we&#039;re looking at? More of a cut in tax? Everything here is taxed. I&#039;m sure the govt can afford to give us some reprieve by cutting some excessive taxes, (eg. the petrol tax of 44 cents a litre). Cutting taxes will go a long way to the average citizens like us, even more so for lower income Singaporeans. At the same time, it does not eat into the govt&#039;s coffers but merely reduces revenues, which I dare to say, we can more than afford to do so. Can&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to suggest that it&#8217;s not so much of a subsidy we&#8217;re looking at? More of a cut in tax? Everything here is taxed. I&#8217;m sure the govt can afford to give us some reprieve by cutting some excessive taxes, (eg. the petrol tax of 44 cents a litre). Cutting taxes will go a long way to the average citizens like us, even more so for lower income Singaporeans. At the same time, it does not eat into the govt&#8217;s coffers but merely reduces revenues, which I dare to say, we can more than afford to do so. Can&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: YiKuen</title>
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		<dc:creator>YiKuen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 16:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with many of the netizens that the people do not need subsidies and the escalating costs can be better managed if the various government agencies collected less from them. The budget surplus, exorbitant spending on defence, bloated gov&#039;t bureaucracy with excessive remuneration and the foolish investments of state funds are within the control of this government. Obviously the insatiable greed of this government to collect more money from citizens has exacerbated the situation. And right now, the ordinary people in Singapore do not need this incorrigible despot to preach to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with many of the netizens that the people do not need subsidies and the escalating costs can be better managed if the various government agencies collected less from them. The budget surplus, exorbitant spending on defence, bloated gov&#8217;t bureaucracy with excessive remuneration and the foolish investments of state funds are within the control of this government. Obviously the insatiable greed of this government to collect more money from citizens has exacerbated the situation. And right now, the ordinary people in Singapore do not need this incorrigible despot to preach to them.</p>
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