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		<title>By: Alan Goh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-193007</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Goh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shin Leong is a total liability!  He is such a disgrace to opposition.  Vote for PAP in his own ward in 2006 and hope his ward can have upgrading? And yet contest in AMK to ask voter to vote for him?

Such a hypocrite and selfish people!  

WP manifesto: Working towards a first world parliament with alternative voice?  With this kind of person around, no way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shin Leong is a total liability!  He is such a disgrace to opposition.  Vote for PAP in his own ward in 2006 and hope his ward can have upgrading? And yet contest in AMK to ask voter to vote for him?</p>
<p>Such a hypocrite and selfish people!  </p>
<p>WP manifesto: Working towards a first world parliament with alternative voice?  With this kind of person around, no way!</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being brain washed ? If we won&#039;t give the opposition a chance, nothing will ever change. We will have the same regime ruling over us for many year to come. It is time to drop all past views and single mindedly vote PAP out.  One vote may not make a big difference but we must continue to spread the idea of voting the PAP out. After all, the gahment is not make up of one person it is the policies that make or break a country. Take for example,the policy of importing FW/FT which most of us are aware of.  For starter, that policy must cease and also our defence policy as well. We are spending a big part of our GDP on defence.Scaling it down and putting the money saved on some  form of social welfare for the unemployed will go down like a treat to many Singaporean. A society without humanity and integrity will not survive forever. The ruling regime had grown fat on the labour of Singaporean. Social engineering by importing FT/FW only worked for now as the FT/FW become &quot;singaporised&quot; they will come round to think like us especially if they had offspring. They are there for the money and as long as there is money they will stay. When the money run out, nothing will keep them there. The recession had opened up a few small cracks and a few FT/Fw eyes as well.It is not a paradise island but a slave camp. Some of these FW had gone home broke, worst then before they set foot on Paradise Island. Singaporean could one day be the target of radical group like the American. I just hoped that that day will never come to past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being brain washed ? If we won&#8217;t give the opposition a chance, nothing will ever change. We will have the same regime ruling over us for many year to come. It is time to drop all past views and single mindedly vote PAP out.  One vote may not make a big difference but we must continue to spread the idea of voting the PAP out. After all, the gahment is not make up of one person it is the policies that make or break a country. Take for example,the policy of importing FW/FT which most of us are aware of.  For starter, that policy must cease and also our defence policy as well. We are spending a big part of our GDP on defence.Scaling it down and putting the money saved on some  form of social welfare for the unemployed will go down like a treat to many Singaporean. A society without humanity and integrity will not survive forever. The ruling regime had grown fat on the labour of Singaporean. Social engineering by importing FT/FW only worked for now as the FT/FW become &#8220;singaporised&#8221; they will come round to think like us especially if they had offspring. They are there for the money and as long as there is money they will stay. When the money run out, nothing will keep them there. The recession had opened up a few small cracks and a few FT/Fw eyes as well.It is not a paradise island but a slave camp. Some of these FW had gone home broke, worst then before they set foot on Paradise Island. Singaporean could one day be the target of radical group like the American. I just hoped that that day will never come to past.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8631</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 07:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed he is &quot;Finished&quot; and &quot;Outcast&quot;. The same is going to happen to WP if they stick with him.

Lets move on with more urgent matters like the extra trains provided by smrt during lunch hour. The majority (50%)of the promised 720 trains are mostly for the lunch hour timing. What help does it get? The peak hour in the morning and evening are still very very packed. If SMRT is going to raise fares again because of extra trains it provided i say they can go eat &quot;SHIT&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed he is &#8220;Finished&#8221; and &#8220;Outcast&#8221;. The same is going to happen to WP if they stick with him.</p>
<p>Lets move on with more urgent matters like the extra trains provided by smrt during lunch hour. The majority (50%)of the promised 720 trains are mostly for the lunch hour timing. What help does it get? The peak hour in the morning and evening are still very very packed. If SMRT is going to raise fares again because of extra trains it provided i say they can go eat &#8220;SHIT&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: kingfisher</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8605</link>
		<dc:creator>kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 22:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C&#039;mon guys! Let&#039;s write him off and move on! Remember to cast him into the political dustbin of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C&#8217;mon guys! Let&#8217;s write him off and move on! Remember to cast him into the political dustbin of history.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8501</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YSL must resign from WP...please dont hide behind LTK just like WKS hiding 

behind PM &#039;s back. It is no honest mistake to begin with just pure stupidity. We are 

all waiting....please dont setup a COI just like MSK incident what a waste of time...be 

a politician that has gut to say it out and the bravery to quit too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YSL must resign from WP&#8230;please dont hide behind LTK just like WKS hiding </p>
<p>behind PM &#8216;s back. It is no honest mistake to begin with just pure stupidity. We are </p>
<p>all waiting&#8230;.please dont setup a COI just like MSK incident what a waste of time&#8230;be </p>
<p>a politician that has gut to say it out and the bravery to quit too.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8348</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 01:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely. We need people who dare to ask tough sensitive questions and pursue real answers in parliament. Not just giving token speeches with hints and then consider work as done. 

Up to now, Inderjit Singh has done a far better job of questioning than anybody else. 

We are not putting in opposition for opposition sake. Elected opposition members carry the responsibilty and hope of those who rooted for them. Failing to perform satisfactorily is as good as betraying the support rendered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely. We need people who dare to ask tough sensitive questions and pursue real answers in parliament. Not just giving token speeches with hints and then consider work as done. </p>
<p>Up to now, Inderjit Singh has done a far better job of questioning than anybody else. </p>
<p>We are not putting in opposition for opposition sake. Elected opposition members carry the responsibilty and hope of those who rooted for them. Failing to perform satisfactorily is as good as betraying the support rendered.</p>
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		<title>By: Salvation Army.</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8327</link>
		<dc:creator>Salvation Army.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Netizen Ramseth,

I agree with your observations.  

What Ling How Doong now must do is to tell Yaw Shin Leong in the face: 

 DONT&#039; TALK COCK!

And all of us will clap and laugh ..... Hahahahaha ......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Netizen Ramseth,</p>
<p>I agree with your observations.  </p>
<p>What Ling How Doong now must do is to tell Yaw Shin Leong in the face: </p>
<p> DONT&#8217; TALK COCK!</p>
<p>And all of us will clap and laugh &#8230;.. Hahahahaha &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Salvation Army.</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8325</link>
		<dc:creator>Salvation Army.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 20:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Gary Teoh,

One more K to add:  Kilat-lari Mas Selamat !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Gary Teoh,</p>
<p>One more K to add:  Kilat-lari Mas Selamat !</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8299</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those SMC where opposition obtained 40 + % were all absorbed into GRC. This showed their kiasuness. overall pap have 5 ks. Kiasu, Kiasi, Ke Khiang, Ke Poh and Kiam Siap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those SMC where opposition obtained 40 + % were all absorbed into GRC. This showed their kiasuness. overall pap have 5 ks. Kiasu, Kiasi, Ke Khiang, Ke Poh and Kiam Siap.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8297</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya true, Netizen Ramseth, there is nothing wrong with Ling How Doong, what performance is Yaw talking about. LTK performance is so so only, just like Ling. In parliament opposition is minority, outnumber by pap.Whatever you propose, they dont accept. What performance you want to judge. You ask questions, the ministers ask you back, and you cant answer, what performance ?? pap played dirty by removing Bukit Gombak SMC, this shows pap is scare of LIng HOw Doong. Ling dare to criticise pap not like other MP who behave like a rat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya true, Netizen Ramseth, there is nothing wrong with Ling How Doong, what performance is Yaw talking about. LTK performance is so so only, just like Ling. In parliament opposition is minority, outnumber by pap.Whatever you propose, they dont accept. What performance you want to judge. You ask questions, the ministers ask you back, and you cant answer, what performance ?? pap played dirty by removing Bukit Gombak SMC, this shows pap is scare of LIng HOw Doong. Ling dare to criticise pap not like other MP who behave like a rat.</p>
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		<title>By: Netizen Ramseth</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8296</link>
		<dc:creator>Netizen Ramseth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 12:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shin Leong said Lin How Doong was &quot;unvotable&quot; due to his &quot;performance&quot; and &quot;antics&quot;. Interesting. Let&#039;s see what were those.

In 1988, How Doong scored 47% againt Seet Ai Mee. Shin Leong (probably a primary school kid then) must have thought that almost half of Bukit Gombak residents then were morons.

In 1991, Lin How Doong upped and scored 52%. Lo and behold! An actual win! Against a minister-of-state no less. Shin Leong (probably a secondary school teenager then)  must have thought that Bukit Gombak residents should get the IMH project instead of Buangkok Green.

Between 1991 and 1997, during How Doong&#039;s term as MP, what went wrong with Bukit Gombak? The nice little clean and beautiful between Bukit Batok, Bukit Gombak and Choa Chu Kang? What went wrong? I say nothing.

Saying &quot;don&#039;t talk cock&quot; in Parliament? Worse things have been said by JBJ, whom Shin Leong and many other opposition aspirants still idolise.

Now, to Shin Leong, reflect upon yourself. How do your performance and antics compare with Lin How Doong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shin Leong said Lin How Doong was &#8220;unvotable&#8221; due to his &#8220;performance&#8221; and &#8220;antics&#8221;. Interesting. Let&#8217;s see what were those.</p>
<p>In 1988, How Doong scored 47% againt Seet Ai Mee. Shin Leong (probably a primary school kid then) must have thought that almost half of Bukit Gombak residents then were morons.</p>
<p>In 1991, Lin How Doong upped and scored 52%. Lo and behold! An actual win! Against a minister-of-state no less. Shin Leong (probably a secondary school teenager then)  must have thought that Bukit Gombak residents should get the IMH project instead of Buangkok Green.</p>
<p>Between 1991 and 1997, during How Doong&#8217;s term as MP, what went wrong with Bukit Gombak? The nice little clean and beautiful between Bukit Batok, Bukit Gombak and Choa Chu Kang? What went wrong? I say nothing.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;don&#8217;t talk cock&#8221; in Parliament? Worse things have been said by JBJ, whom Shin Leong and many other opposition aspirants still idolise.</p>
<p>Now, to Shin Leong, reflect upon yourself. How do your performance and antics compare with Lin How Doong?</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8292</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 10:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RH,

I agreed totally with your comments. We dont need a cabinet just a mayor is more than enough. Even the president is extra here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RH,</p>
<p>I agreed totally with your comments. We dont need a cabinet just a mayor is more than enough. Even the president is extra here.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8282</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 09:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like there are some fans of Animal Farm by George Orwell here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like there are some fans of Animal Farm by George Orwell here.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert HO</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/05/wps-organising-secretary-voted-for-the-pap/comment-page-2/#comment-8277</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert HO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 08:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RH:
1.  Due to my pc being sabotaged as usual by the ISD above my flat, I had lost my entire Comment and had to recompose it as posted above.  In recomposing, I had forgotten some points, which I now feel compelled to add, since the Comments are still incoming fast and furious, by no means ending.

2.  I had described SG under the LIEgime as an Abomination and an Aberration.  This is to emphasise that Mr YAW would have been right to vote for the PAP if SG were a normal democratic city state.  In a normal state, you vote for the best MP for your constituency, then leave him and all the other elected MPs of the majority party to then elect THEIR preferred leaders who would then form the Cabinet.  Thus, in a normal state, it makes perfect sense to vote purely for the best MP who would do the best job for your constituency, and then let him vote for HIS leader and Cabinet.

3.  BUT SG IS AN ABOMINATION AND AN ABERRATION!  So this normal process does NOT apply!

4.  For example, SG is too small an islet, so the lines between State and constituencies are blurred, even missing!  Most rules, taxes, levies, etc, imposed on constituencies by their TCs are in actual fact, imposed by the LIEgime.  There is very little, only token, local govt as opposed to national govt.  When you approach your MP for help on any matter, most times, they can do nothing but refer you, with a nice letter if at that, to a national agency.  Further, the entire TC concept was devised to PUNISH constituencies that voted in Opposition.  NOT because local govt is more efficient than state govt!  LIE KY himself made this clear, that &#039;if you vote in an Opposition MP, then you must suffer for it by having your entire constituency blacklisted and deprived of monies, services, infrastructure [even MRT stations and bus stops], etc, which PAP constituencies enjoy&#039;.

5.  SG is so tiny it can be easily and efficiently ruled and managed by just a Mayor, no need for a Cabinet or govt at all!  It is much smaller in population and size than most cities in the world, which only have mayors.  So given that our MM or &#039;Mayor Minister&#039; has the entire taxation and law-making powers of a big govt, not just a mayoral dept, he can literally do wonders, from taxing you to conscripting you for the army.  Thus, powers and advantages no other mayors have.

6.  To put this another way, suppose the mayors of Shanghai, London, New York, etc, also have the same lawmaking and taxation powers that LIE KY LHL have -- they would do wonders, too.  No brainer.

7.  Thus, TCs are also part of the Abomination and Aberration.  They are exactly like Parliament, a rubber stamp, for show only.  This is why in this A and A, voting for the best TC manager is NOT the issue.  Neither is voting for the best MP to speak up for you in Parliament since that, too, is an A and A.

8.  Now, we begin to see more clearly the real issues.  In this A and A, your vote is not to choose the best TC manager or the best speaker for your interests in Parliament since both TC and P are rubber stamps.  So what does the vote become?  Just an expression of defiance.  A Referendum on the LIEgime, except that, in most elections and even our first and only Referendum around 1962 [on joining Malaysia in 1963], that Referendum was rigged, too, with all 3 Options for joining Malaysia and none against!

9.  Thus, politics, especially Opposition politics, are also A and A here.  No wonder CST and LTK are so cowed that their only strategy is Stealth Politics, to go so low under the LIE KY LHL PAP radar that they are ignored so that, hopefully, the majority hatred and resentment of the electorate for the LIEgime will keep returning them again and again to their S$13,500pm part time job [since Parliament meets less than ~50 days a year].

10.  We all, voters, critics, bloggers, Opposition politicians, must recognise all these so that we can play the LIEgime game more intelligently.  They have rigged all the rules of the game but it is possible, by their leave, to get into Parliament by stealth, by avoiding any politicking at all, in this A and A.

11.  Thus, we all Commenters and enraged onliners need to see Mr YAW betrayal in these lights.  Not a very pretty picture but these are the dynamics that have been created and in place for decades.  Only by understanding them, biding our time for the inevitable Death or Dissolution of the Most Hated Man in SG can we hope to gain some leeway at all.  These are election basics that Mr YAW and others like him must know, otherwise they will keep making mistakes, thinking that they are living in a normal democracy, with normal rules, and can thus vote normally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RH:<br />
1.  Due to my pc being sabotaged as usual by the ISD above my flat, I had lost my entire Comment and had to recompose it as posted above.  In recomposing, I had forgotten some points, which I now feel compelled to add, since the Comments are still incoming fast and furious, by no means ending.</p>
<p>2.  I had described SG under the LIEgime as an Abomination and an Aberration.  This is to emphasise that Mr YAW would have been right to vote for the PAP if SG were a normal democratic city state.  In a normal state, you vote for the best MP for your constituency, then leave him and all the other elected MPs of the majority party to then elect THEIR preferred leaders who would then form the Cabinet.  Thus, in a normal state, it makes perfect sense to vote purely for the best MP who would do the best job for your constituency, and then let him vote for HIS leader and Cabinet.</p>
<p>3.  BUT SG IS AN ABOMINATION AND AN ABERRATION!  So this normal process does NOT apply!</p>
<p>4.  For example, SG is too small an islet, so the lines between State and constituencies are blurred, even missing!  Most rules, taxes, levies, etc, imposed on constituencies by their TCs are in actual fact, imposed by the LIEgime.  There is very little, only token, local govt as opposed to national govt.  When you approach your MP for help on any matter, most times, they can do nothing but refer you, with a nice letter if at that, to a national agency.  Further, the entire TC concept was devised to PUNISH constituencies that voted in Opposition.  NOT because local govt is more efficient than state govt!  LIE KY himself made this clear, that &#8216;if you vote in an Opposition MP, then you must suffer for it by having your entire constituency blacklisted and deprived of monies, services, infrastructure [even MRT stations and bus stops], etc, which PAP constituencies enjoy&#8217;.</p>
<p>5.  SG is so tiny it can be easily and efficiently ruled and managed by just a Mayor, no need for a Cabinet or govt at all!  It is much smaller in population and size than most cities in the world, which only have mayors.  So given that our MM or &#8216;Mayor Minister&#8217; has the entire taxation and law-making powers of a big govt, not just a mayoral dept, he can literally do wonders, from taxing you to conscripting you for the army.  Thus, powers and advantages no other mayors have.</p>
<p>6.  To put this another way, suppose the mayors of Shanghai, London, New York, etc, also have the same lawmaking and taxation powers that LIE KY LHL have &#8212; they would do wonders, too.  No brainer.</p>
<p>7.  Thus, TCs are also part of the Abomination and Aberration.  They are exactly like Parliament, a rubber stamp, for show only.  This is why in this A and A, voting for the best TC manager is NOT the issue.  Neither is voting for the best MP to speak up for you in Parliament since that, too, is an A and A.</p>
<p>8.  Now, we begin to see more clearly the real issues.  In this A and A, your vote is not to choose the best TC manager or the best speaker for your interests in Parliament since both TC and P are rubber stamps.  So what does the vote become?  Just an expression of defiance.  A Referendum on the LIEgime, except that, in most elections and even our first and only Referendum around 1962 [on joining Malaysia in 1963], that Referendum was rigged, too, with all 3 Options for joining Malaysia and none against!</p>
<p>9.  Thus, politics, especially Opposition politics, are also A and A here.  No wonder CST and LTK are so cowed that their only strategy is Stealth Politics, to go so low under the LIE KY LHL PAP radar that they are ignored so that, hopefully, the majority hatred and resentment of the electorate for the LIEgime will keep returning them again and again to their S$13,500pm part time job [since Parliament meets less than ~50 days a year].</p>
<p>10.  We all, voters, critics, bloggers, Opposition politicians, must recognise all these so that we can play the LIEgime game more intelligently.  They have rigged all the rules of the game but it is possible, by their leave, to get into Parliament by stealth, by avoiding any politicking at all, in this A and A.</p>
<p>11.  Thus, we all Commenters and enraged onliners need to see Mr YAW betrayal in these lights.  Not a very pretty picture but these are the dynamics that have been created and in place for decades.  Only by understanding them, biding our time for the inevitable Death or Dissolution of the Most Hated Man in SG can we hope to gain some leeway at all.  These are election basics that Mr YAW and others like him must know, otherwise they will keep making mistakes, thinking that they are living in a normal democracy, with normal rules, and can thus vote normally.</p>
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		<title>By: starchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>starchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 05:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purely from the candidates professional credential aspect, obviously one party would have a much greater edge compared to the rest of the parties.  If we want the country to be run like a company measured by KPI, by all means support these highly capable people who make billions of dollars for their companies.  But don&#039;t expect them to voice up for you in the parliament, because whatever you hear, is what they want you to hear, and not what you want them to say.

Now, if you don&#039;t eat your own dog food, how can you expect others to do so and tell you how it taste like?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purely from the candidates professional credential aspect, obviously one party would have a much greater edge compared to the rest of the parties.  If we want the country to be run like a company measured by KPI, by all means support these highly capable people who make billions of dollars for their companies.  But don&#8217;t expect them to voice up for you in the parliament, because whatever you hear, is what they want you to hear, and not what you want them to say.</p>
<p>Now, if you don&#8217;t eat your own dog food, how can you expect others to do so and tell you how it taste like?</p>
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		<title>By: Mun Kit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mun Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to de Bono Hats (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats), we need opposition in the parliament as Black Hats if nothing else. If not, since PAP self censors (regardless of the fact they claimed they don&#039;t), a truly good discussion about Policies affecting everyone cannot be achieved. 

Hence, while I accept that his stance is correct, he doesn&#039;t seemed to have done enough thinking to really achieve his stated goal of &quot;better serve the interests of our country&quot;. He is really just being myopic and thinking solely about his own estate/GRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to de Bono Hats (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Thinking_Hats</a>), we need opposition in the parliament as Black Hats if nothing else. If not, since PAP self censors (regardless of the fact they claimed they don&#8217;t), a truly good discussion about Policies affecting everyone cannot be achieved. </p>
<p>Hence, while I accept that his stance is correct, he doesn&#8217;t seemed to have done enough thinking to really achieve his stated goal of &#8220;better serve the interests of our country&#8221;. He is really just being myopic and thinking solely about his own estate/GRC.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 23:09:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriot,

I agree with your view that YSL should join back the PAP.  He seems to be one of 
those who believes &quot;All men are equal but some are more equal&quot; and says to the
voters &quot;Do what I tell you to do but don&#039;t do what I do&quot;.  

I would be very afraid of him, who if given a chance to be in a position of power 
will tell the public to do one thing but behind the back he does completely the 
opposite.

Such a double-mouth or double-dealing person are crafty politicians but cannot be trusted even by their own wives and children. As it is, we already have one too
many of such people sitting up in the ivory towers.  Singapore could do less 
with such calibre of people even if they are extremely brilliant.  In fact, the more
brilliant they are, the more we should be afraid of because on the whole 
Singapore will suffer under those kinds of brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriot,</p>
<p>I agree with your view that YSL should join back the PAP.  He seems to be one of<br />
those who believes &#8220;All men are equal but some are more equal&#8221; and says to the<br />
voters &#8220;Do what I tell you to do but don&#8217;t do what I do&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I would be very afraid of him, who if given a chance to be in a position of power<br />
will tell the public to do one thing but behind the back he does completely the<br />
opposite.</p>
<p>Such a double-mouth or double-dealing person are crafty politicians but cannot be trusted even by their own wives and children. As it is, we already have one too<br />
many of such people sitting up in the ivory towers.  Singapore could do less<br />
with such calibre of people even if they are extremely brilliant.  In fact, the more<br />
brilliant they are, the more we should be afraid of because on the whole<br />
Singapore will suffer under those kinds of brains.</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you vote for a party that consistently scores own goals?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you vote for a party that consistently scores own goals?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas Lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas Lazarus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, would like to know how the other members of WP voted in the last GE.

As I mentioned earlier, I have a feeling that many oppositionists vote for PAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, would like to know how the other members of WP voted in the last GE.</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier, I have a feeling that many oppositionists vote for PAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 08:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He should resign from WP and joined his favourite MP&#039;s party. We want real change that we all can believe in. That is a gahmen with PAP as minority and majority opposition as alliance coalition. To achieve that requires total support and loyalty of all oppositon parties. I myself do not want to see a WP majority in parliment becoz they are too PAP like in nature. I dislike a PAP clone. I hope to see a united SDP,New WP,RP and so on. If WP &#039;s YSL can dash the our hope for change then it said so much of his own believe and loyalty to the oppostion to form the gahmen in the future. He just blew his career away as a politician. Guess he can go help his MP &#039;s town council for a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He should resign from WP and joined his favourite MP&#8217;s party. We want real change that we all can believe in. That is a gahmen with PAP as minority and majority opposition as alliance coalition. To achieve that requires total support and loyalty of all oppositon parties. I myself do not want to see a WP majority in parliment becoz they are too PAP like in nature. I dislike a PAP clone. I hope to see a united SDP,New WP,RP and so on. If WP &#8216;s YSL can dash the our hope for change then it said so much of his own believe and loyalty to the oppostion to form the gahmen in the future. He just blew his career away as a politician. Guess he can go help his MP &#8216;s town council for a job.</p>
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