Gopalan Nair denies charges
Thursday, 12 June 2008, 10:23 pm | 714 views
Andrew Loh
In a statement released to the press, lawyer Gopalan Nair rejected accusations that he had sent emails to Justice Belinda Ang and others. Nair was arrested and charged on June 4 for insulting a public servant.
Nair is also facing a second charge, this time for insulting a judge in the High Court, Justice Lai Siu Chiu.
He has since been released on bail of $5,000.
In his press statement, Nair said, “I did not at anytime send any emails to Judge Belinda Ang or anyone else as far as this incident is concerned.” He added that the authorities have seized his computer notebook as well.
Nair also defended his right to criticize Justice Ang in his blog posting. “I believe as a human being, it is my right and my duty under the constitution of the Republic of Singapore and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to be able to speak free as a free man and to state what I have seen and heard. This benefits Singaporeans and the world at large. If I did not say what I saw, I would in fact be hiding the truth.”
Saying that although he has migrated to the United States and is now a US citizen, he has been “closely monitoring the political situation in Singapore”. He added that his efforts “are directed to (sic) the plight of human beings who are denied their human rights and how I can expose the injustices they suffer.”
“In the US where I come from, the judiciary just as any other government or official body is open to criticism and they accept it as necessary for the advancement and improvement of the administration of justice”, he explained.
Nair said that after attending the three day court sitting for the assessment of damages in the lawsuit brought by Mr Lee Hsien Loong and Mr Lee Kuan Yew against the Singapore Democratic Party’s chief Dr Chee Soon Juan and SDP Central Executive Committee member Ms Chee Siok Chin, he had “no doubt at all that this Judge was clearly unfair towards Dr. Chee and Siok Chin and she did not appear to conduct herself as an impartial judge in court sitting in judgment between the parties.”
It was, he said, “necessary for me as a human being, to make it public and to the world what this court actually was, since they would not have had the luxury of being in court during the 3 days.”
Nair said that it was not his intention to ‘malign or cause distress to anyone’.
“It was never my intention to malign or cause distress to anyone and if the words that I had used had this effect, I withdraw them and apologize. But as far as the contents of my blog post; as to the events that occurred during the 3 days in court, it is an accurate observation which I have stated under my right as a free man”, he said.
You can read Mr Nair’s full press release here.
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Wher he comes from? He runs to where ever he thinks is free! Gopi, look at the patrio act, look at the abuses in Guantanamo Bay! Look at Americna Indian natives being held in camps! US is a wolf in sheeps clothing!
Why didn’t you come with the US military might instead? Why don’t you write to President Bush to protest?
By the way, I also understand you lost the election in a Singel member constituency. Then you ran.
If you think Singapore has not economically progressed, why don’t you tell your President Bush to cancel the US-SG FTA?
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2008/02/excellent-question-from-edwin-soh-which.html
Why don’t you protest back home at the San Diego Naval Base (which is so nearby your new home) where Singapore Pilots are being trained by the US?
Claire C,
Please stick to the issue and avoid personal attacks. The issue here is Nair denying the charges made against him in S’pore and not why Nair is not doing certain things in the US.
Thanks.
“I believe as a human being, it is my right and my duty under the constitution of the Republic of Singapore … to be able to speak free as a free man”.
Technically, the Article 14 of the Singapore Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and expression to only Singapore citizens.
When in Rome, do as what the Romans do. It is only courtesy to respect the law of the country one is in.
“Technically, the Article 14 of the Singapore Constitution guarantees freedom of speech and expression to only Singapore citizens.”
Bwahahahaha….. *can’t help laughing and wiping tears from my eyes*
Technically. On paper. By right.
Dream on,
Kaffein
I am impressed by Gerald’s knowledge of the constitution. Still even if GN is a Singaporean, it is still limited by sub clauses that restrict his right to free speech.
Free speech is not defined in the act. Nevertheless, what constitutes words covered under sec 505, if applied, is likely defined in common law.
Whether GN did or did not send the emails is a moot point (and also a matter of fact). If sec 505 is invoked, even a blog is covered and so the medium becomes irrelevant.
The said sec 505 is generally similar in common law countries eg it is also sec 505 in India and Pakistan in their respective penal codes as well as other common law countries.
Perhaps Mr Nair should have considered the case of a certain Michael Fay. The rights of US citizens do not trump Singapore laws. As an expression of sovereignty, my guess is it is unlikely that the Govt can let this go without justifying Singapore being termed as a lackay of US.
I have a feeling this was a calculated move in a design to bring Singapore in direct conflict with the US on the issue of human rights.
Mr Nair’s apparently noble aims, however noble, is misguided. In rome, one does what romans do.
In the press release, Nair says that he cares about Singapore and its people because he was born here. That’s why he is speaking out on the Chee Vs Lee/Ang case.
So those who mention a certain Michael Fay and the US’s own human rights violations didn’t read Nair’s press release. Either that or they must be just as biased as Belinda Ang.
“When in Rome, do as the Romans do”
That’s another way to say that one should be a spineless and amoral excuse of a human being.
Like Singaporeans have been TRAINED to become.. LOL
Sorry.. I forgot my daily dose of the State’s Times. After I read ST I will dutifully sing the praises of the PAP and offer some Joss stick to the Lee dynasty..
Ah Lim Ah Lim Ah Lim
What Roman lah. Singapore has become a rojak place already lah - melting pot lah and I hope that it does not literally melt down.
Sometimes, I have to slap myself just to be reminded that I am still in Singapore and not in some other country - if you know what I mean.
To me, the more I look at GN, he does have the feature & character of a true Roman (warrior like and brave) and that is why there is not a bit of big hoo-ha from us except that from the authority.
In some other country, an attack on their national institution will defintely attract like-minded response from their country men. Like the saying does, Singapore is unique lah.
lol.
I respect your right to believe that in rome, anyone should do what they want or better yet what you want. I’d like to think I have the right to disagree.
If you think anyone who holds a differing view is another way of saying that one should be a spineless and amoral excuse of a human being, that’s your choice
In fact, some people believe just by being Singaporean makes one spineless and amoral. That’s their choice too.
I was indeed TRAINED to believe that how a person acts is a reflection of his character.
Your insults are just words to me. Feel free to go ahead.
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Ah Lim
“Your insults are just words to me. Feel free to go ahead”
I do not know why the authority is so lacking of this wonderful & admirable trait that you seem to possess when GN insulted our judge. Perhaps, you are slowly beginning to look & think differently over certain things after all the engagement.
What is true democracy?
Can you give examples of places where democracy can be found in its purest and unadulterated form? If not, what does it say of democracy? Does it not mean that democracy is merely a contrived notion and at best a set of ideals?
Chase after the notion but know firmly and surely what you are seeking as the end product. Do not chase for the sake of chasing; do not seek blindly something that you have not even honestly spent time reflecting upon. Do not be the opponent for the sake of being the opponent.
When you claim to fight for freedom, I ask, what freedom are you referring to? What are the consequences of that freedom? How are you certain that this freedom is beneficial and good?
When someone opposes your opposition stand, do you feel slighted?
If you do, why do you feel that way? Is it the ego at work?
Look inside yourself. Ask yourself: “what am I really fighting for?”
You may be surprised at the answer that you discover deep within yourself if you genuinely seek the truth.
If you haven’t read, the author of the blog ‘Singapore Dissident’ Gopalan Nair is going to face another charge of insulting a judge. I generally don’t approve of socio-political blogging, preferring fiction logging any day, and this lawyer man who “defected” to the United States is particularly fond of slamming Singaporean ministers on his blog. The prime minister and minister mentor, if you’ve followed his posts, are prime targets while the minister for home affairs follows close, together with other ministers mentioned now and then. Members of the judiciary like judges have followed suit recently.
In any case, according to The Straits Times, it seemed he had sent an email message to one judge via her ‘private secretary’. The contents of the message involved insulting words, as was the other email message sent to another High Court judge recently, both of whom presided over cases involving defamation suits. And then came the shocker. According to Nair, he had not himself sent any such message to the second judge while in the case of the first judge, he did not recall if he had or hadn’t, since it was supposed to have happened more than 2 years back.
I’m not particularly fond of Nair, but if the veracity of his claim is authentic, then you have a case of criminal offence against him. The first lead in this case would be the judge’s secretary who received the message from Nair, purportedly, and in a typical investigation she would take on the role of witness/collaborator. If she is found to have knowledge about the message being extracted from Nair’s computer in order that it was sent, without Nair’s own discretion, to the judge (in this case the subject of abuse) or to have played an active role in that, then charges relating to computer misuse may be proceeded against her. If she is found not to be culpable of such, then the perpetrators must have been hackers.
If he sent emails or ran a blog from within the US, then why should Singapore laws apply to him? Is Singapore to now start arresting transiting or visiting foreigners who may have criticized Singapore on their personal blogs at some time in the past? Claire C above posted some criticism about the US. How would Claire feel if, during her next trip to the US, she were arrested for insulting the US government?
I fully agree with theonlinecitizen’s comment urging people to stick to the topic at hand. The issue here is not US policies, Iraq, Guantanamo, or Michael Faye. It’s the freedom that we Singaporeans have, here in our own country. Criticizing the US is not going to help our situation. But I would like to point out that, even if we visit the US, we are still free to criticise their country. When have you ever heard of a Singaporean being arrested for insulting an American? It looks like Americans behave like adults, willing to take criticism, whereas Singaporeans behave like babies, throwing some kind of tantrum at the slight mention of some problem in their country. As a Singaporean, I hope we can grow up.
If you believe what Gopalan says:
Then No terrorist is a terrorists until proven guilty by law. Osama is a free man in his definition, as well as ABu Baka Bashir (who was by Indonesian law found not guilty)
Then the US is the ultimate place to live. The pace where Bush tortures so called terrorists in Guantanamo, where American Indian natives are denied theri own rights
The all economists got it wrong. The East Asian miracle never occurred.
People have been investigated for insulting Bush over his Iraq War, for writing threatening this on Myspace (happened to a 16 year old)
If you all believe GN, then please emigrate to the US. Encourage your Senator to propose a bill to impose trade sanctions against SG.
While we may accuse the govt of highandedness, it is worth the while to take a look at some of the things Gopalan Nair has written on his blog over the past year or so. Reading them tells me something about the man: I do not think he knows much about human rights. He wants those rights for himself but accuse others of not doing what he himself deems is right.
For example: He attacks almost all the opposition parties in Singapore, except the SDP. Even so, he has urged and asked people like Chee Soon Juan to get himself arrested and jailed. So, i’m not sure what he is saying - the PAP is bad, the WP is bad, the NSP is bad, SDA is bad, SDP is good but they should get themselves arrested.
While one advocates human rights, one must also keep in mind the consequences of instigating others to do things which one will not do oneself. Gopalan lives a comfortable life in the States as a lawyer. Yet, he chides others in singapore working for change (even though they may be doing what he does not approve). For those that he approves, like the SDP, he urges them to break the law and get themselves jailed.
I do not think this is the mark of a human rights advocate. It is instead the rantings of one who is clearly irresponsible.
Claire C, your comments are incoherant and widely scattered. You got your facts wrong. Abu Baka Bashir was convicted and served jail in Indonesia. You throw big words without fully understand their meaning and implications. What do you mean by East Asian miracle ? What do u mean by ALL economists ?
Millions of people have criticised and condemned Bush for his Iraq War and did he pursued them ? Can he ? What do u mean by US is ultimate place to live ?
You think it is so easy to migrate to USA ? You are the by product of Lee Kuan Yew’s indoctrinations. I am ashamed of your postings.
LifesLikeThat, to me Gopalan Nair is a very brave man who dare to tell Lee Kuan Yew and his courts what he really thinks of them. Are you brave enough to do that ? He is a respectable American Lawyer. Why should he want those rights for himself when he is already enjoying those rights in America now ? He don’t have to fight for those rights in America. That he take the trouble and spend his own money to come to Singapore to fight Lee Kuan Yew to return those freedoms and human rights to Singaporeans is an indication of his sincerity and genuiness to
fight for Singaporeans. Why are you running him down when what he is doing is for the good of Singaporeans ? Unless of course you are one of the few who has become rich or live a good life provided by the pap government like a retired civil servants with $millions in your account. Are you employed to post on the internet ?
To DL,
1. What is democracy ?
Basically democracy is a government by the people for the people. In other words it is a government elected by the people to work for the benefit of the people.
Is there such a government in Singapore ? No, there is no democracy in Singapore. Why ? In Singapore the election is not fair. In Singapore the governmet is not working for the people. How can they be working for the people when they allow so many foreigners into Singapore to take away jobs from Singaporeans and to enable employers to drive wages down. Average Singaporeans have to work harder for less. The pap ministers get a few million $ salary while 350,000 Singaporeans have to feed their family on $1.200 a month.
2. Freedom. The Singapore constitution guarantee Singaporeans the freedom to speak . Are we free to speak in Singapore ? No. Almost all average Singaporeans are afraid of offending the pap government. They are afraid that if they say something which the pap government don’t like, then they will be punished like losing their job, kick out of their hdb or worst send to jail. Even University Professor dare not speak what they had in mind. So you see, Lee Kuan Yew through 50 years of rule has frightened Singaporeans until they don’t have the courage anymore to say what is in their mind about the government. Lee Kuan Yew himself said that if Singaporeans don’t fear him then he is no good.
3. Why Freedom is good for Singapore and Singaporeans ?
If Singaporeans are no afraid to speak up when they see something wrong, then the government will know the problem. If Singaporeans are not afraid to tell the government that they are not doing a good job then the government will know that the people are not happy with them. Only then can the government takes action to correct the problem or to pull up their socks to do a better job. If no body dare tell the government, then how is the government going to know ? If the government thinks that everything is ok when things are seriously wrong in Singapore, then Singapore will collapse suddenly. Singaporeans will suffer.
4. Democracy and freedom is good for Singapore and Singaporeans.
All this discussion is useless. If Gopalan Nair’s claim that he did not sent the email to the judges is true, that is, that the email message had been sent without his discretion, then an offence has been committed against him. The law has been broken. You talk about rights, the upholding of the Constitution and the statutes of the republic? This is something worth thinking about now. A criminal offence has been committed against Mr Nair, relating to his rights to privacy, to computer misuse or even to impersonation. Will you continue to chatter about the grand political landscape in continental Singapore?
Hi Harry,
Thanks for your patience in explaining democracy to me.
I have a few personal questions which I hope you can help me with:
a. do you subscribe to the belief that total and unconditional freedom and liberty is good for a country?
b. should a country be run in a similar fashion to a family i.e. head of family instills discipline for the sake of love and concern for his children?
c. how important are law and order as compared to freedom and liberty?
d. do you think law and order are at odds with freedom and liberty?
Thanks!
To DL.
1. What do u mean by “total and unconditional freedom and liberty” ?
2. There are so many ways of running a family. What you have described is just one way in which family members can conduct their relationships. I treat my wife as equal partners in the house. I treat my children as friends. I practice democracy at home. Even where to eat out we decide by majority votes. I don’t order my wife and children about. I request them and if they object with good reason, I will not impose on them. I want to train my children to be thinking person and not just do as I told them. My wife and children are also human being like me. So they should be treated in the same way as I will treat myself.
3. Law and order is NOT incompatible with freedom and liberty. Throught no fault of their own, Singaporeans tend to think that if there are freedom and liberty there will be less law and order. The pap government has poisoned the minds of Singaporeans through their controlled media. Just like there are law and order in Communist and dictatorial countries, there are also law and order in Liberal Democratic countries. What is more important is who and how law is made and how order is achieved.
If law is made by the word and decision of one person like in a dictatorship, then it is bad. Bad because this one person will make the law to favour himself against the interests of others. Law must be made by people who are chosen by the people in a fair and open election. In this way the law enacted will reflect the wishes and represent the interest of the majority of society. Order can come about by strict and unfair enforcement by the police like in a dictatorship. Order can also come about through the collective efforts of the people in the society. They chose the people who make the law under which they all agree to obey. There is law and order in dictatorship and liberal democracy. There is No freedom and liberty in a dictatorship. But there is freedom and liberty in a liberal democracy. Which is better ? A society in which there is law and order as well as freedom and liberty or one in which there is only law and order but no freedom and dictatorship ?
Hope I help you to see the situation better. Singaporeans can have law and order as well as freedom and democracy. The British Liberal Democracy system of government has been providing law and order as well as freedom and liberty to the people for hundreds of years. So don’t believe those who preach that if you want more freedom and liberty u will have less law and order.
This is not true. The Singapore media tend to show the bad aspect of Western Liberal socieites. I have live in Singapore and in Western countries, so I know the real situation.
To DL,
To help you to better appreciate the good of genuine democracy let me just illustrate with the example of they way you think a family relationship should be conduct against the democratic way I handle my relationship with my wife and children in the family.Your way is basically the Confucian approach which make the father the supreme authority in the family. The rest of the family must listen to him without question otherwise they will be punished by you.
Now my children are encourage to ask and question me on why I ask them to behave like this and not like that. So they know the reason why, accept it and then willingly do the right and correct thing. I don’t have to ask them. So, even when I am not around they will still behave and don’t do silly things. Your children will behave when you are around to watch over them. They behave because they are afraid of your punishment. I am not sure and are you sure that if you are not around they will be in their best behaviour ?
Think over the points I raised and please ask me questions if you have any doubts. Then tell me which is the better way. Your authoritarian confusianist way or my democratic humanistic way. My children are all grown up and are turning out to be good citizens of the world - good in their studies and their works while caring for their fellow humankind and the environment. They are not selfish, nor are they rude and demanding.
Harry never heard of the East Asian miracle? Sad.
Claire
I also heard of it before - the East Asian miracle.
Plucked from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_financial_crisis as follows : -
“Until 1997, Asia attracted almost half of the total capital inflow to developing countries. The economies of Southeast Asia in particular maintained high interest rates attractive to foreign investors looking for a high rate of return. As a result the region’s economies received a large inflow of money and experienced a dramatic run-up in asset prices. At the same time, the regional economies of Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, Singapore, and South Korea experienced high growth rates, 8-12% GDP, in the late 1980s and early 1990s. This achievement was widely acclaimed by financial institutions including the IMF and World Bank, and was known as part of the “Asian economic miracle”.”
The so-called Asian economic miracle was followed by yet another equally miraculous event known as Asian Financial Crisis. That miraculous congestion is still lingering and some countries in this region still have not recovered to the pre-crisis level. A lot of articles have been written on these two events. What say you, Claire.
Full of examples to pick and choose. The miraculous wonder of the internet.
Claire, do u know what is the meaning of a miracle ?
This word miracle has been misused by people who wants to promote their secret agenda. Rapid economic growth and development have occured all over the world and are the result of planning and execution. Many countries in the world are now catching up. Brazil is going through a rapid growth period. China and India are experiencing rapid growth. So is Vietnam. The Asian Tiger economies of Singapore, S. Korea, Taiwan and Hong Kong are still doing well. However there are dark clouds over the horizon and many expects the world to go into a recession.
They have amended the charge to publishing in a blog rather than email. I am surprised no one has raised the issue of jurisdiction. I am not a lawyer so my understanding is quite limited (forgive me for any naive interpretation).
A quick check at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction#Types_of_judicial_jurisdiction
shows that there are 3 types of jurisdiction, territorial, personal and subject matter.
If the blog was created overseas, does the Singapore court have territorial jurisdiction? He is no longer a Singaporean, does the court have personal jurisdiction? All I can think of that the Singapore court have a say over is subject jurisdiction.
Thinking about jurisdiction, is the charge against Gopalan Nair even legitimate in the first place?
They are clutchin at straws. They fumbled from one end to the other. All these are shows to brainwash and frighten Singaporeans.
At first they wanted to charge him for something he wrote in an alleged email. When Nair denied sending the email, they now charge him for writing something insulting on his blog.
Makes me wonder what the DPP and AG’s office were thinking. Obviously, they wanted to charge him with something, anything, anywhere. They obviously can’t prove he sent the email (original charge), so now they charge him for his blog writing.
That brings into question the govt’s professed “light touch” approach to the Internet.
They wayang this case to distract Singaporeans from their anger with the pap government handling of the Mas Selamat Great Escape. They are using their pap gangsters to work up the racist fire in Singaporeans. This is very sad indeed that a government can indulge in such dangerous game.
“At first they wanted to charge him for something he wrote in an alleged email. When Nair denied sending the email, they now charge him for writing something insulting on his blog.”
The world is watching how this kangaroo court lead by LKY is responding and it is pathetic that the court is behaving like baby kangaroo.
“Thinking about jurisdiction, is the charge against Gopalan Nair even legitimate in the first place?”
What do you think of kangaroo court where law can be changed as and when to their likings, after all typical Singaporean can’t do anything brave to stop these.
How swiftly they arrested and charged Nair right after Lee Kuan Yew saying in court that the govt will chase a lie even in cyberspace. They’re even charging him for something he allegedly did 2 years ago!
Seems to me that there are some people tripping over themselves trying to impress the old man.
I think gopi is not stirring trouble since court has not been ended, We should all know is we understand well aren’t we.
Gopi situation is like being forced and torture out from his habitats like a beast or prisoners and I don’t think that he has more American supporter than me ( fellow prisoner).
Gopi situation is always like a wolf stationing and waiting at Singapore to devours him.
Why?
As a teenagers I understood democracy in politics and human laws.
and I have awareness that our Singapore economy is marvelous but we aren’t getting what we deserve.
Get the point-
Maybe as a student we’re being quite good, but for a working adult we are being unfavorable than some comparable country, we’re not still earning by contribution.
Singapore is within top 20 richest country but why aren’t we getting one labour enlisted in Top 100 richest person so far..
Except lee kuan Yew getting the merits or being the richest Politican in the world.
I don’t want to get sue for being nuisance so I going to leave this country when I have enough savings.
Bye fellow mate!!
qwerty,
is in jurisdiction the court has the rights to pursue the matters, although this comments has no benefits for my supporters but fairness still is my former same as justices.
I am not “harry” don’t mix me up, except for the the former comments.
but for the “harry”, why don’t we just say we are going to get sue.
I think someone say financial crises miracle, you are referring to Singapore right?
Yes, the effect by lower labour cost did help, but they didn’t refer to “individual”
and now consider the economy how can we have a tyrannical “ruler”.
unconditional freedom and liberty, do you think we have?
I thinks we don’t and just to be in case does “unconditional freedom and liberty” mean almost the same, I am quoting this from someone comments.
Last -
Lim, is’ it right for me to presume that whether the penal code under sec 505 if applied at balance to rights is still a moot point?
So to be subtle, I would say that “neither groups can get a freedom unless both wouldn’t want it to be a moot point..
Seriously us is not stirring trouble for Singapore, In other ways he helping us to get freedom from someone despite of conflict.
It not ” In rome, one does what romans do”, in Singapore is more like “One do, what lee want you to do”.
Do you then support what he writes about PRC Chinese?
Andrew Loh,
what LKY is stupidity at best. It just means that if one is oversea and write against the coffers, and then visit Singapore, he may be charged up to discretion of LKY, Law of Kuan Yew. What LKY did is created Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Now do he expect oversea Singaporean who write against the oppression will even want to come back ?
How about Woo Yen Yen and Colin Goh, the Singaporeans, who are the creator of TalkingCock.com and producer of the movie Singapore Dreaming
http://www.moviexclusive.com/article/sgdreaming/sgdreaming.htm
Isn’t talkingcock.com make fun of government and Singapore and show contempt. Does that means that if they return to Singapore, they liable for arrest too ?
Miss/Mdm. Clair,Joanna Steffy,
Are the he,”refer” to gopalan?, I and confused bc I dun think he has any isuue with prc chinese than PAP.
Read this:
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2008/02/singapore-chinese-communists-among-us.html
Not even Talking cock or Mr. Brown post such “Truthful” comments. And Gopalan is an immigration lawyer. What if a PRC Chinese tries to gain a US citizenship? Should they trust him?
http://singaporedissident.blogspot.com/2008/02/excellent-question-from-edwin-soh-which.html
Do you people really believe this? If you do, then as Gopi says, please protest.
Sir Gopalan Nair,
You know something simple, that’s the power of lies but,
I got a saying that’s “something simple, can’t be express simpler in constitution’.
I think your opinion may have flaws
on Singaporean, who still staying and
Why, Singaporean still want to lay on this useless pieces land, rather to flee to obtain their sucessful vision.
I think one way or other’s still due to the traditional Singapore
Laws in few decades,
which is the
“2 child for 1 framily scheme”
that cause most Singaporean being old-aged population.
And those who already has family may also effect them from leaving.
so Lee invited more
Chinese may partly help to establish more fruits since soon
stem will rot.
I don’t think is to maintain Chinese space rather just
that more China see opportunities at Singapore to gain more money,since they are communist community.
Those most commonly crime done by China citizen is probably prostitution,drug or hacker society which normally not a officially worker,they just leave when their jobs are done.
Lee just being boldness rather than being meticulous about everything since what come first have to be done.
The part I agree will mostly be Lee Kuan Yew have no intention to lead Singaporean rather treating Singapore as a business opportunities and soon Singapore will be abating.
-I agree he is tyrannic
and Belinda Ang is injustice.
and Singapore can be better if Lee can end their misdeeds.
This explain my Idea of ALL!!
Nothing is imperfect so just comment on it!!
I mean nothing is perfect.
This is so crazy. I am only a teenager and I can see the work of LKY. When I questioned my friends on this matter, they firmly objected and brought up LKY’s bringing Singapore from a third world country to a first world country. They called me ungrateful. Everything I learn in Social Studies is propoganda. When I questioned my SS teacher about the government’s rather pathetic comments about Mas Selamat’s escape, she defended them as pathetically.
People like Gopalan Nair, Dr. Chee and J.B. Jeyarathnam are standing up for freedom and Singapore’s future. Noone likes to be repressed or controlled. Noone likes to pushed around. Noone likes to be falsely accused. Noone likes to be kept away from the place they call home. Since this is so, why are there people still defending the government? Are Singaporeans so blind as to not see the control exerted by PAP? Can they not see the growing number of PRCs? Can they not see the poor old people working at 80, some collapsing from exertion? Can they not see that none of the articles in The Straits Times is against the government? Our president gets $3.7 million, 5 times more than President Bush does. Is that preventing corruption or just making things dandy for themselves? Furthermore, money should be put in to take care of its citizens. Just because our dear LKY can work at 80, doesn’t mean the whole country can. Get a life, seriously. My apologies for straying away from the topic at hand. But before anyone looks at the case, one must look at the whole picture. Then, perhaps, we will see how people like Gopalan Nair are helping us.
I support Gopalan Nair fully even at my youthful age. I pray that justice will see him through. Justice has always reigned, not only in movies, but in real life. Anyone watched “The Last King of Scotland”? One of my favourite movies. Watch it. Singapore’s got alot of potential. I have grown up here and it is familiar to me. I wouldn’t like to see it end up like the country in the movie. It’s a true story, by the way.
I am not a politician and certainly I am not a PAP supporter. What I do know is that if it is not for PAP Government, I would not be what I am today . I feel sorry for Gopalan Nair, Dr. Chee & Company….for having wasted time and money invested on their tertiary education….
If they are not happy and feel being suppressed…. I would suggest that they look for another “green pasture” to stay…..
“What I do know is that if it is not for PAP Government, I would not be what I am today .”
Yes, we should always be thankful and grateful to our government. To show our token of appreciation, we will want the government to
- increase GST to 15% in next election because we still be grateful and happy
- Increase ERP charge to $10 per entry because we still be grateful and happy
- Increase the number of ERP to 10,000 and extends it to residential area because we still be grateful and happy
- Increase 4-rooms flat to $1 million because we still be grateful and happy
- Keep feed us rhetoric and increase minister’s pay to $10 millions per year because we still be grateful and happy
- Increase NS to 5 years and reservist to 20 years because we still be grateful and happy
- Increase oil to $5 per litre because we still be grateful and happy
- Fix the oppositon paryt and buy supporter’s vote because we still be grateful and happy
- Let LKY sue all anti-PAP bloggers for defamation and lies because we still be grateful and happy
- Lose another $100 billions in frailing bank and poor investment because we still be grateful and happy
Please, gov do what you need to do because we still be grateful and happy.
Long live PAP !
I have not been really following up with the politics in Singapore. I know that striving for freedom of speech is a losing battle because not only are the Singaporeans comfortable with the way things are, they actually disapprove the actions taken by the brave ones who are doing it for the Singaporeans.
I wanted to comment because of all the blog written here, my FAVOURITE was by Daniel on September 8th, 2008 9.25 pm. I couldn’t stop laughing when i read that. That was a hilarious way of putting it across Daniel. I doubt the programmed ones would still get it.
To Let’s be fair;
please do not belittle yourself, I am very sure that You are what You are(now) because of your own hardworks and of course Nature has endowed You.
If the System has made many many You, than I will agree the System has benefitted the people. Please look around and see how many You around and do kindly feed us back here, if You are willing to. I thank You in advance.
I can assure You that each and every Singaporean loves one thing and that is no need to complain, most are very sad when they have to.
patriot