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		<title>By: TheOwl</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/06/what-is-chee-soon-juans-game-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10636</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; What is Chee Soon Juan&#039;s game plan ?  &quot;  At his own expense, he ingeniously exposed the despicable system in sheep city and the ordinary people will find it almost impossible to ignore the recent events. The implication is very clear to everyone in sheep city and we seriously need to ask ourselves, is this the way to build a nation, bond with the people and move the country forward ?  CSJ&#039;s effort will not be in vain, if the people take stock, stay focused despite the expected distractions, and let their votes do the talking in 2011.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; What is Chee Soon Juan&#8217;s game plan ?  &#8221;  At his own expense, he ingeniously exposed the despicable system in sheep city and the ordinary people will find it almost impossible to ignore the recent events. The implication is very clear to everyone in sheep city and we seriously need to ask ourselves, is this the way to build a nation, bond with the people and move the country forward ?  CSJ&#8217;s effort will not be in vain, if the people take stock, stay focused despite the expected distractions, and let their votes do the talking in 2011.</p>
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		<title>By: Value</title>
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		<dc:creator>Value</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not matter you have got flunked badly in your PSLE and GCE &#039;O&#039; or &#039;A&#039; level in your first attempt.

It also does not matter if you have achieved first rated (or 1st in your class or cohort) in your PSLE, GEO &#039;O&#039; or &#039;A&#039;, university and holding a PHD. 

It is not how you start the race. Results are measured on how you end the race.

All these achievements (indicative) are all history. It is the value or dis-value that your are bringing to the table now which is more important and each person has a different concept of value (or dis-value) in accordance with his own situation which may not coincide nicely as per the definition of our dear leaders .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not matter you have got flunked badly in your PSLE and GCE &#8216;O&#8217; or &#8216;A&#8217; level in your first attempt.</p>
<p>It also does not matter if you have achieved first rated (or 1st in your class or cohort) in your PSLE, GEO &#8216;O&#8217; or &#8216;A&#8217;, university and holding a PHD. </p>
<p>It is not how you start the race. Results are measured on how you end the race.</p>
<p>All these achievements (indicative) are all history. It is the value or dis-value that your are bringing to the table now which is more important and each person has a different concept of value (or dis-value) in accordance with his own situation which may not coincide nicely as per the definition of our dear leaders .</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure outsiders know the truth about what&#039;s happening here. If GN has placed us no different from Zimbawe or Myanmmar, what&#039;s not stopping outsiders from being critical of the white clad leaders? As i said, why has East Asia never suffered the brunt of Human Rights criticisms from Western Nations.

I never said the rulers of any SEA country were democratic in principle. What i will say is that we have been spared the effects of neo-liberalism that has plagued Latin American and African Nations.

Or perhaps you all can believe GN that we never progressed economically.

Another question: Why couldn&#039;t Ling How Dong, the SDP&#039;s clear success story, hold on to his seat in parliment. Fault of the leadership again? or did he not have the grace of opponents washing hands?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure outsiders know the truth about what&#8217;s happening here. If GN has placed us no different from Zimbawe or Myanmmar, what&#8217;s not stopping outsiders from being critical of the white clad leaders? As i said, why has East Asia never suffered the brunt of Human Rights criticisms from Western Nations.</p>
<p>I never said the rulers of any SEA country were democratic in principle. What i will say is that we have been spared the effects of neo-liberalism that has plagued Latin American and African Nations.</p>
<p>Or perhaps you all can believe GN that we never progressed economically.</p>
<p>Another question: Why couldn&#8217;t Ling How Dong, the SDP&#8217;s clear success story, hold on to his seat in parliment. Fault of the leadership again? or did he not have the grace of opponents washing hands?</p>
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		<title>By: People's will</title>
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		<dc:creator>People's will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clair C

Whether Chee can be a Gandhi, King &amp; Aun San Suu Kyi. Only time will tell. 

It will be the collective will of the people which is going to determine that - and not yours and mine alone. For every person like you who may disagree with Chee, there is always some other person who feels for him. 

Chee has some situation that common people (not all of course) can relate to and you may have a situation that you can relate to with the system.

Nobel Prize can only be given once in a year in each of the different categories and I also cannot recall any of our leaders receiving any either. 

If the system keeps on treating him like that and his case happens to be publicized to an outrageous level in the international areana at the right time / moment, he may well get nominated / selected one fine day. Fat hope? I would not want to count on that as life likes to throw out new surprises and you never know that the Nobel Prize committee may just give it to him just to drive some point across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clair C</p>
<p>Whether Chee can be a Gandhi, King &amp; Aun San Suu Kyi. Only time will tell. </p>
<p>It will be the collective will of the people which is going to determine that &#8211; and not yours and mine alone. For every person like you who may disagree with Chee, there is always some other person who feels for him. </p>
<p>Chee has some situation that common people (not all of course) can relate to and you may have a situation that you can relate to with the system.</p>
<p>Nobel Prize can only be given once in a year in each of the different categories and I also cannot recall any of our leaders receiving any either. </p>
<p>If the system keeps on treating him like that and his case happens to be publicized to an outrageous level in the international areana at the right time / moment, he may well get nominated / selected one fine day. Fat hope? I would not want to count on that as life likes to throw out new surprises and you never know that the Nobel Prize committee may just give it to him just to drive some point across.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chee will never be a Gandhi or King. Aun San Suu Kyi is&quot;.  Are you obsessed with this comparison ?   A better comparison that you should take note, is that Chee will never be as despicable as your political masters.  Do you know that the government of Singapore is a steadfast supporter of the Burmese junta, and your heroine Aun San Suu Kyi has been under house arrest for umpteen years ?  Seriously, you should write to her and ask what she thinks of the Singapore government . And I also suggest that you go to the most recent blog on Chee and post your comments there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chee will never be a Gandhi or King. Aun San Suu Kyi is&#8221;.  Are you obsessed with this comparison ?   A better comparison that you should take note, is that Chee will never be as despicable as your political masters.  Do you know that the government of Singapore is a steadfast supporter of the Burmese junta, and your heroine Aun San Suu Kyi has been under house arrest for umpteen years ?  Seriously, you should write to her and ask what she thinks of the Singapore government . And I also suggest that you go to the most recent blog on Chee and post your comments there.</p>
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		<title>By: CelluloidReality</title>
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		<dc:creator>CelluloidReality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Curious88, the US has been experiencing a steady erosion of Constitutional rights for the last 7 years, and given the apathy of the average American who&#039;s more worried about his job running away to China, and his kids who may never afford their own home.. it&#039;s not that different in the end. 

Strategic interests make the world go round..in this aspect, we&#039;ve done pretty well to capitalise on our  position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curious88, the US has been experiencing a steady erosion of Constitutional rights for the last 7 years, and given the apathy of the average American who&#8217;s more worried about his job running away to China, and his kids who may never afford their own home.. it&#8217;s not that different in the end. </p>
<p>Strategic interests make the world go round..in this aspect, we&#8217;ve done pretty well to capitalise on our  position.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 09:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chee will never be a Gandhi or King. Aun San Suu Kyi is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chee will never be a Gandhi or King. Aun San Suu Kyi is.</p>
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		<title>By: blur</title>
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		<dc:creator>blur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 08:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>who speak for and help the people of singapore ?? leaders of this country is always looking from a helicopter view and always wants the people to suffer and tighten our belt during bad times but when time for their accountability &amp; pay rise, they just ignore us. At least CSJ speak up for us without fear of persecution.  dear leader , come down from your helicopter view before yr helicopter crash during next election. anyway i wish it crash soon cos we are sick of the whole lot of u elite uncaring face. and to the MPs who agrees to their sickening pay rise with old man &amp; son, u people only care for yourself. money is the best medicine for yr sick soul. just monkey see monkey do. leaders with no soul. go work for money then, don&#039;t join PUBLIC SERVICE. join MONEY SERVICE like Judas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who speak for and help the people of singapore ?? leaders of this country is always looking from a helicopter view and always wants the people to suffer and tighten our belt during bad times but when time for their accountability &amp; pay rise, they just ignore us. At least CSJ speak up for us without fear of persecution.  dear leader , come down from your helicopter view before yr helicopter crash during next election. anyway i wish it crash soon cos we are sick of the whole lot of u elite uncaring face. and to the MPs who agrees to their sickening pay rise with old man &amp; son, u people only care for yourself. money is the best medicine for yr sick soul. just monkey see monkey do. leaders with no soul. go work for money then, don&#8217;t join PUBLIC SERVICE. join MONEY SERVICE like Judas.</p>
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		<title>By: curious88</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious88</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1992: Why did the US choose Singapore as their Pacific logstics base, knowing that it is a dictatorial regime?&quot;

The same reason why the US supports the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein of Iraq and the King of Saudi Arabia. Except that we do not have oil but a deep sea harbour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1992: Why did the US choose Singapore as their Pacific logstics base, knowing that it is a dictatorial regime?&#8221;</p>
<p>The same reason why the US supports the Shah of Iran and Saddam Hussein of Iraq and the King of Saudi Arabia. Except that we do not have oil but a deep sea harbour.</p>
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		<title>By: TheOwl</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheOwl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire C,  From your many posts , I have to conclude that you are out of sync with the netizens who provided you with reasonable explanations. Do you really understand what the rest of the netizens are getting at ?  For example, What has winning a Nobel prize  got to do with Chee who is standing up to the despot. Did Chee in anyway indicate that he aspires to win a Nobel prize ? Please read my previous post which clearly mentioned that Chee took inspiration from the great men, Gandhi, King, and is just trying his best to make a little difference for the people in sheep city. It does not matter if many do not agree with his way of doing things, because Chee has never advocated any form of violence or instigated widespread chaos.  And again in my previous post I suggested  that the US/UN try to convince our emperor to showcase to the world that the elections are free and fair. The netizens are thinking hard on solutions to level the playing field for future elections. Your question in one of your numerous posts implied that since the US/UN did not attack Singapore , then Singapore cannot be that bad under the present regime. Sanctions alone will be absolutely disastrous for Singapore and we do not need this type of intervention. The underhand politics that has been going on is insidious and I believe you are naive.  Claire, you may feel comfortable with the political situation in Singapore , but there are many citizens who are not. The political system that has generated  success for the country  in the early years, is being abused by the emperor who created it in the first place.  So I hope you will eventually understand that a strong alternative party is needed to provide the check and balance.  Surely you are aware of the numerous policies screwing the people good and proper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire C,  From your many posts , I have to conclude that you are out of sync with the netizens who provided you with reasonable explanations. Do you really understand what the rest of the netizens are getting at ?  For example, What has winning a Nobel prize  got to do with Chee who is standing up to the despot. Did Chee in anyway indicate that he aspires to win a Nobel prize ? Please read my previous post which clearly mentioned that Chee took inspiration from the great men, Gandhi, King, and is just trying his best to make a little difference for the people in sheep city. It does not matter if many do not agree with his way of doing things, because Chee has never advocated any form of violence or instigated widespread chaos.  And again in my previous post I suggested  that the US/UN try to convince our emperor to showcase to the world that the elections are free and fair. The netizens are thinking hard on solutions to level the playing field for future elections. Your question in one of your numerous posts implied that since the US/UN did not attack Singapore , then Singapore cannot be that bad under the present regime. Sanctions alone will be absolutely disastrous for Singapore and we do not need this type of intervention. The underhand politics that has been going on is insidious and I believe you are naive.  Claire, you may feel comfortable with the political situation in Singapore , but there are many citizens who are not. The political system that has generated  success for the country  in the early years, is being abused by the emperor who created it in the first place.  So I hope you will eventually understand that a strong alternative party is needed to provide the check and balance.  Surely you are aware of the numerous policies screwing the people good and proper.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 22:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant from the West Daniel.

Following suit, let&#039;s take what GN said. Albania has a higher democratic ranking than a certain island. Does that mean Albanians are happy and free and have a better life that the city state islanders?

Infant mortality rate:    
total: 19.31 deaths/1,000 live births 
male: 19.74 deaths/1,000 live births 
female: 18.83 deaths/1,000 live births (2008 est.)  (Of Albania from CIA world factbook)

GDP (official exchange rate):   
$11.2 billion (2007 est.)  
GDP - real growth rate:    
5% (2007 est.)  
GDP - per capita (PPP):    
$5,500 (2007 est.)  (Albania)

Vs:

Infant mortality rate:    
total: 2.3 deaths/1,000 live births 
male: 2.51 deaths/1,000 live births 
female: 2.08 deaths/1,000 live births (2008 est.)  

GDP (purchasing power parity):    
$222.7 billion (2007 est.)  
GDP (official exchange rate):   
$153.5 billion (2007 est.)  
GDP - real growth rate:    
7.5% (2007 est.)  
GDP - per capita (PPP):    
$48,900 (2007 est.)  
(island)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant from the West Daniel.</p>
<p>Following suit, let&#8217;s take what GN said. Albania has a higher democratic ranking than a certain island. Does that mean Albanians are happy and free and have a better life that the city state islanders?</p>
<p>Infant mortality rate:<br />
total: 19.31 deaths/1,000 live births<br />
male: 19.74 deaths/1,000 live births<br />
female: 18.83 deaths/1,000 live births (2008 est.)  (Of Albania from CIA world factbook)</p>
<p>GDP (official exchange rate):<br />
$11.2 billion (2007 est.)<br />
GDP &#8211; real growth rate:<br />
5% (2007 est.)<br />
GDP &#8211; per capita (PPP):<br />
$5,500 (2007 est.)  (Albania)</p>
<p>Vs:</p>
<p>Infant mortality rate:<br />
total: 2.3 deaths/1,000 live births<br />
male: 2.51 deaths/1,000 live births<br />
female: 2.08 deaths/1,000 live births (2008 est.)  </p>
<p>GDP (purchasing power parity):<br />
$222.7 billion (2007 est.)<br />
GDP (official exchange rate):<br />
$153.5 billion (2007 est.)<br />
GDP &#8211; real growth rate:<br />
7.5% (2007 est.)<br />
GDP &#8211; per capita (PPP):<br />
$48,900 (2007 est.)<br />
(island)</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire C ,
&quot;East Asia never grew economically to all of you.&quot; 
Perhaps Asia did grew economically albeit at expense  of human right etc cheap labour, exploitative work hours and low wages.

&quot;why there is no harsh criticism of East Asian Human Rights&quot;
The history of Chinese and Asia traditional and culture might shred some light to it. Respect to the authority, obedient to senior, loyalty, no questioning of authority and senior etc have been passed down generation from generation, and education has been used to imbue such moral and practise. 

Politically ? Yes, they are of the same musical chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire C ,<br />
&#8220;East Asia never grew economically to all of you.&#8221;<br />
Perhaps Asia did grew economically albeit at expense  of human right etc cheap labour, exploitative work hours and low wages.</p>
<p>&#8220;why there is no harsh criticism of East Asian Human Rights&#8221;<br />
The history of Chinese and Asia traditional and culture might shred some light to it. Respect to the authority, obedient to senior, loyalty, no questioning of authority and senior etc have been passed down generation from generation, and education has been used to imbue such moral and practise. </p>
<p>Politically ? Yes, they are of the same musical chair.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not about condemnation. it is about playing the political game. None of you have answered the question on why there is no harsh criticism of East Asian Human Rights since ther various countries independence. None of you have answered why save Vietnam and Cambodia, there was no US intervention. 

East Asia never grew economically to all of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not about condemnation. it is about playing the political game. None of you have answered the question on why there is no harsh criticism of East Asian Human Rights since ther various countries independence. None of you have answered why save Vietnam and Cambodia, there was no US intervention. </p>
<p>East Asia never grew economically to all of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell your story to all the economists who got it wrong. There was no miracle story in the island or in Southeast Asia. East Asia never grew!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell your story to all the economists who got it wrong. There was no miracle story in the island or in Southeast Asia. East Asia never grew!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Weijia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weijia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Claire,
Must we be condemned or chastised by the international community before you think there is something wrong with us? reminds me of our colonial roots where we look to our &quot;white&quot; masters for orders and advice because we are &quot;inferior&quot;.

a wrong is a wrong. whether it is recognized or not change the fact that it is wrong. don&#039;t you think something is wrong with singapore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Claire,<br />
Must we be condemned or chastised by the international community before you think there is something wrong with us? reminds me of our colonial roots where we look to our &#8220;white&#8221; masters for orders and advice because we are &#8220;inferior&#8221;.</p>
<p>a wrong is a wrong. whether it is recognized or not change the fact that it is wrong. don&#8217;t you think something is wrong with singapore?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire C , 
&quot;The you all believe what GN siad. Singapore was and never is economically progressive. That means economists and politicians got the East Asian Miracle wrong.&quot;

as a Singaporean I could agree with you. I have been reading The Singapore Miracle and it reveals the shocking truth. Do I believe the book ? Why not ? After all it quotes source from MSM, well-known magazine, LKY, ministers, and more importantly, some of which can be seen it from the ground. If this book is rubbish, it will have been banned or sued by LKY, ministers. Rather it is available in Border and some Popular bookstores show how true it is.

Singapore is a great marketing story that very successful due its control of mainstream media. I live till 2000 believing the hype and deceit of the government, now I know they are all mainly for themselves. I believe Singapore will go far if it is politically opened but now I almost lost  hope of it. The society created by the coffers has deteriorated due to its love of materialism and $$$, and the great influx of foreigner means it is going to go downstream further since Singapore doesn&#039;t has a strong culture in the first place.

Surreal and pathetic, isn&#039;t it ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire C ,<br />
&#8220;The you all believe what GN siad. Singapore was and never is economically progressive. That means economists and politicians got the East Asian Miracle wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>as a Singaporean I could agree with you. I have been reading The Singapore Miracle and it reveals the shocking truth. Do I believe the book ? Why not ? After all it quotes source from MSM, well-known magazine, LKY, ministers, and more importantly, some of which can be seen it from the ground. If this book is rubbish, it will have been banned or sued by LKY, ministers. Rather it is available in Border and some Popular bookstores show how true it is.</p>
<p>Singapore is a great marketing story that very successful due its control of mainstream media. I live till 2000 believing the hype and deceit of the government, now I know they are all mainly for themselves. I believe Singapore will go far if it is politically opened but now I almost lost  hope of it. The society created by the coffers has deteriorated due to its love of materialism and $$$, and the great influx of foreigner means it is going to go downstream further since Singapore doesn&#8217;t has a strong culture in the first place.</p>
<p>Surreal and pathetic, isn&#8217;t it ?</p>
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		<title>By: Claire C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claire C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The you all believe what GN siad. Singapore was and never is economically progressive. That means economists and politicians got the East Asian Miracle wrong.

How sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The you all believe what GN siad. Singapore was and never is economically progressive. That means economists and politicians got the East Asian Miracle wrong.</p>
<p>How sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Claire C ,
To my best of knowledge, there is none that able to achieve the Nobel Peace Prize  if the person did not help in effort to seek peace settlement that could result in endless massive death.
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/

I do not think that Dr Chee will get a nobel prize not because he does not deserve it but because the situation does not warrant it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Claire C ,<br />
To my best of knowledge, there is none that able to achieve the Nobel Peace Prize  if the person did not help in effort to seek peace settlement that could result in endless massive death.<br />
<a href="http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/" rel="nofollow">http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/</a></p>
<p>I do not think that Dr Chee will get a nobel prize not because he does not deserve it but because the situation does not warrant it.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t think Chee is anywhere near Gandhi or King. Have you ever wondered:

Why Chee has not received any Nobel Prize or Congressional Award unlike Aun San Suu Kyi?&quot;

The answer is simple. There is no sign of mass violence or death arising from the protest against the government in Singapore. The government does not resort to violence (at least as seen from public) to suppress protest (at least not now, hopefully not in the future eg LKY says that military will interfere due to freak result in election).&quot;If I have to shoot 200,000 students to save China from another 100 years of disorder, so be it.&quot; - Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew evoking the ghost of Deng Xiaoping whilst endorsing the Tiananmen Square massacre, Straits Times, Aug 17, 2004 http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew

 Note that those who achieve nobel prize put their own life before others, and usually the emotional and physical struggle to obtain the freedom against oppression touch those around the world so hard to warrant them of Nobel Prize. And Nobel Prize is not something that just give easily. This doesn&#039;t mean that we should downplay those  who did not achieve Nobel Prize for their effort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t think Chee is anywhere near Gandhi or King. Have you ever wondered:</p>
<p>Why Chee has not received any Nobel Prize or Congressional Award unlike Aun San Suu Kyi?&#8221;</p>
<p>The answer is simple. There is no sign of mass violence or death arising from the protest against the government in Singapore. The government does not resort to violence (at least as seen from public) to suppress protest (at least not now, hopefully not in the future eg LKY says that military will interfere due to freak result in election).&#8221;If I have to shoot 200,000 students to save China from another 100 years of disorder, so be it.&#8221; &#8211; Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew evoking the ghost of Deng Xiaoping whilst endorsing the Tiananmen Square massacre, Straits Times, Aug 17, 2004 <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew</a></p>
<p> Note that those who achieve nobel prize put their own life before others, and usually the emotional and physical struggle to obtain the freedom against oppression touch those around the world so hard to warrant them of Nobel Prize. And Nobel Prize is not something that just give easily. This doesn&#8217;t mean that we should downplay those  who did not achieve Nobel Prize for their effort.</p>
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		<title>By: Singaporean</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/06/what-is-chee-soon-juans-game-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10372</link>
		<dc:creator>Singaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 11:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be because of you, Claire? And people like you? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could it be because of you, Claire? And people like you? :)</p>
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