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	<title>Comments on: Whose future is “shining”, really?</title>
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		<title>By: sturmtruppen</title>
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		<dc:creator>sturmtruppen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me folks....

the gov&#039;t is given the mandate to rule....

i don&#039;t remember agreeing to the the gov&#039;t using the monies tax direct / indirect for investing public funds....and the gov&#039;t even if it uses these monies for investment, should they not check or re-vet with the mandate givers which in this case the citizens of singapore...

it seems the mandate given by the mandate givers [us] allow the gov&#039;t to do as they please without even bothering to at least brief or justify their policies with the citizens of singapore.

We elected the bloody gov&#039;t...and we have the goddam right as mandate givers to ask and question the gov&#039;t...

to those in the forum who mention we are whiners or ask too much...please do kindly remember we voted [be it willingly or unwillingly] do have the right query, to question, to ask, to raise concern and to DEMAND as we gave them the mandate...even citizens who did not vote for the gov&#039;t has the same rights to question and raise concerns and ask and demand from the gov&#039;t too.

To those who says or said we are lucky, we are the best and we should know better....remember the citizens of singapore gave them the mandate...thus they have to answer and do well for the citizens of singapore.

To those who are not satisfied or feel let down by the gov&#039;t and if able to cast your vote...

please do the right thing...not only for yourselves but also for your kids and future generation of kids...we should work with a gov&#039;t that works with its citizens and both parties leverage on each other...when a gov&#039;t does not do that for its citizens [majority 66% = mandate givers] and 30+% non-mandate citizen givers...then please.vote such a self serving and uncaring gov&#039;t out.

Gov&#039;t will think we are ungrateful and disloyal....but the gov&#039;t must remember...how many citizens over the 44 years contributed to singapore well being...and how many citizens made sacrifices over the 44 years too to singapore...without the citizens in the first place who stay and fought it out...where will singapore and the gov&#039;t be....

the gov&#039;t has forgotten its citizens....and it is up to the citizens of singapore do decide for better and for worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me folks&#8230;.</p>
<p>the gov&#8217;t is given the mandate to rule&#8230;.</p>
<p>i don&#8217;t remember agreeing to the the gov&#8217;t using the monies tax direct / indirect for investing public funds&#8230;.and the gov&#8217;t even if it uses these monies for investment, should they not check or re-vet with the mandate givers which in this case the citizens of singapore&#8230;</p>
<p>it seems the mandate given by the mandate givers [us] allow the gov&#8217;t to do as they please without even bothering to at least brief or justify their policies with the citizens of singapore.</p>
<p>We elected the bloody gov&#8217;t&#8230;and we have the goddam right as mandate givers to ask and question the gov&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
<p>to those in the forum who mention we are whiners or ask too much&#8230;please do kindly remember we voted [be it willingly or unwillingly] do have the right query, to question, to ask, to raise concern and to DEMAND as we gave them the mandate&#8230;even citizens who did not vote for the gov&#8217;t has the same rights to question and raise concerns and ask and demand from the gov&#8217;t too.</p>
<p>To those who says or said we are lucky, we are the best and we should know better&#8230;.remember the citizens of singapore gave them the mandate&#8230;thus they have to answer and do well for the citizens of singapore.</p>
<p>To those who are not satisfied or feel let down by the gov&#8217;t and if able to cast your vote&#8230;</p>
<p>please do the right thing&#8230;not only for yourselves but also for your kids and future generation of kids&#8230;we should work with a gov&#8217;t that works with its citizens and both parties leverage on each other&#8230;when a gov&#8217;t does not do that for its citizens [majority 66% = mandate givers] and 30+% non-mandate citizen givers&#8230;then please.vote such a self serving and uncaring gov&#8217;t out.</p>
<p>Gov&#8217;t will think we are ungrateful and disloyal&#8230;.but the gov&#8217;t must remember&#8230;how many citizens over the 44 years contributed to singapore well being&#8230;and how many citizens made sacrifices over the 44 years too to singapore&#8230;without the citizens in the first place who stay and fought it out&#8230;where will singapore and the gov&#8217;t be&#8230;.</p>
<p>the gov&#8217;t has forgotten its citizens&#8230;.and it is up to the citizens of singapore do decide for better and for worse.</p>
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		<title>By: A Nation&#8217;s Birthday And My Disenchantment. &#171; a father&#8217;s thoughts</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Nation&#8217;s Birthday And My Disenchantment. &#171; a father&#8217;s thoughts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 13:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: &#187; Will i have kids when i&#8217;m married? A new beginning: Thoughts and experiences of my life</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/06/whose-future-is-%e2%80%9cshining%e2%80%9d-really/comment-page-5/#comment-16767</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Will i have kids when i&#8217;m married? A new beginning: Thoughts and experiences of my life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 00:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] i&#8217;ll have to work til i grow old, and still work until i die take a look at this article by Andrew Loh in the TOC for a peek at what&#8217;s going on now. Its no wonder suicide rates for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Late@Night</title>
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		<dc:creator>Late@Night</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am just dying for them to announce their 3rd pay hike for ministers.

I am just dying for them to do that.

I hope they will do that as soon as possible.

That will be the end of the PAP.

A bunch of highly-paid idiots. What have they done since winning the elections in 2006? 

F1?

Casino?

Singapore Flyer?

Increase their own pay TWICE already?

Low Thia Khiang is right: Pay peanuts get monkeys.

Pay bananas STILL get monkeys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just dying for them to announce their 3rd pay hike for ministers.</p>
<p>I am just dying for them to do that.</p>
<p>I hope they will do that as soon as possible.</p>
<p>That will be the end of the PAP.</p>
<p>A bunch of highly-paid idiots. What have they done since winning the elections in 2006? </p>
<p>F1?</p>
<p>Casino?</p>
<p>Singapore Flyer?</p>
<p>Increase their own pay TWICE already?</p>
<p>Low Thia Khiang is right: Pay peanuts get monkeys.</p>
<p>Pay bananas STILL get monkeys!</p>
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		<title>By: Unhappy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unhappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be more realistic.
I have read many comments about how good our government was that turned an island from a fishing village to what it is today. I am grateful for that. However, that was a very long time ago. The ministers back then should be rewarded adequately for the progressed they had made. Most of the current ministers were not even born during that era. So not logical to use this arguement to justify their pay rise.

&quot;Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam has warned that Singapore could face another round of inflation if companies increase wages to help workers cope with the higher cost of living today. &quot; ~quoted from CNA

I would like him to explain which data did he gathered to make such a statement. From my observation, many families in singapore are barely struggling to survive because of the higher cost of living. Some of us dont even have savings. Every month income goes directly to paying for all the bills. I mean if the inflation was due to the purchases of luxury goods, his comments would be justified. Right now we are all facing core inflation on our daily necessities.

IMHO, i think the PAP had lost it&#039;s plot and the trust of many singaporeans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be more realistic.<br />
I have read many comments about how good our government was that turned an island from a fishing village to what it is today. I am grateful for that. However, that was a very long time ago. The ministers back then should be rewarded adequately for the progressed they had made. Most of the current ministers were not even born during that era. So not logical to use this arguement to justify their pay rise.</p>
<p>&#8220;Finance Minister Tharman Shanmugaratnam has warned that Singapore could face another round of inflation if companies increase wages to help workers cope with the higher cost of living today. &#8221; ~quoted from CNA</p>
<p>I would like him to explain which data did he gathered to make such a statement. From my observation, many families in singapore are barely struggling to survive because of the higher cost of living. Some of us dont even have savings. Every month income goes directly to paying for all the bills. I mean if the inflation was due to the purchases of luxury goods, his comments would be justified. Right now we are all facing core inflation on our daily necessities.</p>
<p>IMHO, i think the PAP had lost it&#8217;s plot and the trust of many singaporeans.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 27</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 03:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: GoodGrief</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoodGrief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone (laserpointer) finally fell for the flame bait which I provocatively included in my earlier post.  Yes, a country gets the Govt it deserves.  If good people do not rise up when they feel that something is wrong, regardless of the cost to themselves, then they really do deserve the Govt they have.  

Aquino proved that.  The people in the former Soviet Union also proved that if necessary, change can be brought about by the people.  

If some of you think that our situation can by any stretch of the imagination be likened to Marcos/Aquino or pre-Gorbachev USSR, then... well, there&#039;s always one in every crowd.  I&#039;m certain that the vast majority of Singaporeans do not think so.

So in the final analysis, yes, a country deserves its Govt if you pull-back and consider all the things that the country-folk can do to change its Govt.  It runs the entire continuum -- from providing feedback and participating in discussions, to offering oneself up for public office regardless of personal cost, to... well... to whatever it takes if the situation demands it.

All those that are saying that the Govt is somehow directly responsible for even white-collar jobs going to the foreigner are in essence pushing for a protectionist approach, which in today&#039;s globalised economy, is really like spooning water out of the ocean with a leaky teaspoon.  There are forces at work that are far greater than any one or several Govts.  Thomas Friedman discussed it a lot in Lexus and the Olive Tree, and The World is Flat.  These forces are (probably) unstoppable, and people need to adjust to change because change is the only constant.  

Remember that other little bestseller, Who Moved My Cheese?  In that book, the ones that thought that the mountain of cheese will always be there, and will always be sufficient, will ultimately find out that it is finite.  The ones that wander further afield, looking for alternatives, and planning for tomorrow, will actually have a future.

Those lamenting their loss of jobs -- do check (I&#039;m not saying you haven&#039;t) what WDA has to offer.  There may be things there that would surprise you.  Those lamenting others&#039; loss of jobs without assessing what options and backups (short of handouts) are in place, could do well to do some research *first*.

There.  I&#039;ve emerged from observing, largely because the flamebait I put in was finally taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone (laserpointer) finally fell for the flame bait which I provocatively included in my earlier post.  Yes, a country gets the Govt it deserves.  If good people do not rise up when they feel that something is wrong, regardless of the cost to themselves, then they really do deserve the Govt they have.  </p>
<p>Aquino proved that.  The people in the former Soviet Union also proved that if necessary, change can be brought about by the people.  </p>
<p>If some of you think that our situation can by any stretch of the imagination be likened to Marcos/Aquino or pre-Gorbachev USSR, then&#8230; well, there&#8217;s always one in every crowd.  I&#8217;m certain that the vast majority of Singaporeans do not think so.</p>
<p>So in the final analysis, yes, a country deserves its Govt if you pull-back and consider all the things that the country-folk can do to change its Govt.  It runs the entire continuum &#8212; from providing feedback and participating in discussions, to offering oneself up for public office regardless of personal cost, to&#8230; well&#8230; to whatever it takes if the situation demands it.</p>
<p>All those that are saying that the Govt is somehow directly responsible for even white-collar jobs going to the foreigner are in essence pushing for a protectionist approach, which in today&#8217;s globalised economy, is really like spooning water out of the ocean with a leaky teaspoon.  There are forces at work that are far greater than any one or several Govts.  Thomas Friedman discussed it a lot in Lexus and the Olive Tree, and The World is Flat.  These forces are (probably) unstoppable, and people need to adjust to change because change is the only constant.  </p>
<p>Remember that other little bestseller, Who Moved My Cheese?  In that book, the ones that thought that the mountain of cheese will always be there, and will always be sufficient, will ultimately find out that it is finite.  The ones that wander further afield, looking for alternatives, and planning for tomorrow, will actually have a future.</p>
<p>Those lamenting their loss of jobs &#8212; do check (I&#8217;m not saying you haven&#8217;t) what WDA has to offer.  There may be things there that would surprise you.  Those lamenting others&#8217; loss of jobs without assessing what options and backups (short of handouts) are in place, could do well to do some research *first*.</p>
<p>There.  I&#8217;ve emerged from observing, largely because the flamebait I put in was finally taken.</p>
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		<title>By: Lim Leng Hiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lim Leng Hiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Tiredman and Singaporespirit:

Thank you for your kind comments. I hope you found the illustration to be clear and accurately reflect ground sentiments.

To Amanda:

I&#039;m  that you can see our perspective. The anxiety is real and nobody wants to keep running in an accelerating treadmill, certainly not when people have reached their 60s and 70s.

Some professionals believe that they are immune. Managers believe that they are immune. Civil servants believe that they are immune.

Just keep your head down, keep quiet and follow instructions. Everything will be OK.

The reality is that nobody is immune, because nobody, not even the government, can predict the future.

If we don&#039;t speak up for the elderly poor today, then one day when some of us end up as elderly poor, there will be no one left to speak for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Tiredman and Singaporespirit:</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind comments. I hope you found the illustration to be clear and accurately reflect ground sentiments.</p>
<p>To Amanda:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m  that you can see our perspective. The anxiety is real and nobody wants to keep running in an accelerating treadmill, certainly not when people have reached their 60s and 70s.</p>
<p>Some professionals believe that they are immune. Managers believe that they are immune. Civil servants believe that they are immune.</p>
<p>Just keep your head down, keep quiet and follow instructions. Everything will be OK.</p>
<p>The reality is that nobody is immune, because nobody, not even the government, can predict the future.</p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t speak up for the elderly poor today, then one day when some of us end up as elderly poor, there will be no one left to speak for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mighty Mouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mighty Mouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 11:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it will only take a reputable western reporter to shame the govt into action.  How can we (even more so as Asians) allow our elderly citizens to work so hard for so little.  Where is the compassion in our society?  Our leaders are gourging themselves silly while our elderly are living from hand to mouth.   I think elderly pension is the way to go.  It&#039;s not free lunch but one that shows who we are as a nation.  A nation that truly cares for its unfortunate and less capable elder citizens.  Of course there will not be any ROE on this, God Forbid!  If the leaders don&#039;t have the vision or can&#039;t be bothered, let me put it in another way.  How about treating it as a ROE that gives soft power and moral authority to a government that sends a clear signal that a nation that cares for its people is a nation that is worth belonging to.  We desperately need to be closely bonded as a nation, lest we get torn apart by materialism and self-centeredness.   For a govt that takes pride in taking the best practices from other developed nations, this is worth considering.  In fact, as our nation rapidly ages in the not too distant future, we may not have a choice at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps it will only take a reputable western reporter to shame the govt into action.  How can we (even more so as Asians) allow our elderly citizens to work so hard for so little.  Where is the compassion in our society?  Our leaders are gourging themselves silly while our elderly are living from hand to mouth.   I think elderly pension is the way to go.  It&#8217;s not free lunch but one that shows who we are as a nation.  A nation that truly cares for its unfortunate and less capable elder citizens.  Of course there will not be any ROE on this, God Forbid!  If the leaders don&#8217;t have the vision or can&#8217;t be bothered, let me put it in another way.  How about treating it as a ROE that gives soft power and moral authority to a government that sends a clear signal that a nation that cares for its people is a nation that is worth belonging to.  We desperately need to be closely bonded as a nation, lest we get torn apart by materialism and self-centeredness.   For a govt that takes pride in taking the best practices from other developed nations, this is worth considering.  In fact, as our nation rapidly ages in the not too distant future, we may not have a choice at all.</p>
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		<title>By: laserpointer</title>
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		<dc:creator>laserpointer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 09:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thought i point this out.

&quot;A country gets the Govt it deserves. &quot;
-Good Grief


And they probably deserve Mugabe. Good lord.


How apt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought i point this out.</p>
<p>&#8220;A country gets the Govt it deserves. &#8221;<br />
-Good Grief</p>
<p>And they probably deserve Mugabe. Good lord.</p>
<p>How apt.</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction to &#039;of not arrested&#039; to &#039;if not arrested&#039;.

My apology.

patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction to &#8216;of not arrested&#8217; to &#8216;if not arrested&#8217;.</p>
<p>My apology.</p>
<p>patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
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		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And all our leaders could tell us is for us to upgrade, upgrade! They are taking us, the Citizenry, as morons. They think we are blind to those professionals and managers getting displaced, replaced and retrenched, became jobless, went into taxi driving, security job that pay them peanuts. Why are these people suffering such fates? THE FAULTS LIE WITH NATIONAL POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN AND BEING DISHED ONTO US, SHOVED ONTO US!

DOES ANYONE WANTS TO UPGRADE TO WHERE THE SAID PROFESSIONALS AND MANAGERS WERE AND SUFFERS THEIR FATES, AFTER SPENDING MONEY AND TIME AND NEGLECTING ONES’ FAMILY IN THE PURSUIT OF UPGRADING?&quot; 

May I add here that many job applicants are rejected because they are &#039;over qualified&#039; and many that were retrenched were because their pays were much higher than the many new candidates, including foreigners available in the market who are able to replace them(current employees) at a much lower cost(salary).

This is a very vicious development, which of not arrested, could result in serious turmoil in time to come.

patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And all our leaders could tell us is for us to upgrade, upgrade! They are taking us, the Citizenry, as morons. They think we are blind to those professionals and managers getting displaced, replaced and retrenched, became jobless, went into taxi driving, security job that pay them peanuts. Why are these people suffering such fates? THE FAULTS LIE WITH NATIONAL POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN AND BEING DISHED ONTO US, SHOVED ONTO US!</p>
<p>DOES ANYONE WANTS TO UPGRADE TO WHERE THE SAID PROFESSIONALS AND MANAGERS WERE AND SUFFERS THEIR FATES, AFTER SPENDING MONEY AND TIME AND NEGLECTING ONES’ FAMILY IN THE PURSUIT OF UPGRADING?&#8221; </p>
<p>May I add here that many job applicants are rejected because they are &#8216;over qualified&#8217; and many that were retrenched were because their pays were much higher than the many new candidates, including foreigners available in the market who are able to replace them(current employees) at a much lower cost(salary).</p>
<p>This is a very vicious development, which of not arrested, could result in serious turmoil in time to come.</p>
<p>patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Straits Times Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>Straits Times Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 02:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ST today has reported the failure of the PAP again - to raise the living standards of the citizens - especially those in the bottom of the food chain - Cleaners / attendants etc. 

That is why those who can speak out must speak out and remind the government of its promises.

Swiss standard of living - but we must ignore old 70 year old who work for the dignity of employment - what ? Say that again? I heard the Chee Siok Chin vs Davinder Singh and I almost threw up. (I would not put Lee Hsien Loong cos he was silent most of the time  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ST today has reported the failure of the PAP again &#8211; to raise the living standards of the citizens &#8211; especially those in the bottom of the food chain &#8211; Cleaners / attendants etc. </p>
<p>That is why those who can speak out must speak out and remind the government of its promises.</p>
<p>Swiss standard of living &#8211; but we must ignore old 70 year old who work for the dignity of employment &#8211; what ? Say that again? I heard the Chee Siok Chin vs Davinder Singh and I almost threw up. (I would not put Lee Hsien Loong cos he was silent most of the time  :)</p>
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		<title>By: No need to good grief</title>
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		<dc:creator>No need to good grief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda

&gt;&gt;
but I would not blame the firm if they can find someone better than me, unless the decision to lay me off is a matter of favoritism or biasness
&gt;&gt;

What about you being retrenched simply because of your age? Often times, it is not not even a case of competency. If the firm can hire someone younger, why not? Be in touch with the reality of ageism and its effects on older workers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;<br />
but I would not blame the firm if they can find someone better than me, unless the decision to lay me off is a matter of favoritism or biasness<br />
&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>What about you being retrenched simply because of your age? Often times, it is not not even a case of competency. If the firm can hire someone younger, why not? Be in touch with the reality of ageism and its effects on older workers.</p>
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		<title>By: Singaporespirit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Singaporespirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>204 Lim Heng Hiong
Now I could say that I appreciate the story of  &quot;The Emperor who had on clothes on&quot;.  By and large, our society&#039;s values have been eroded through coveting more wealth and  more economic growth.  It undoubtly painted a picture of wrong placement of values in every aspect of our lives.  Thank you for painting the picture so detailed and candidly.  Indeed, our society needs more such &quot;little boy&quot; to reflect reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>204 Lim Heng Hiong<br />
Now I could say that I appreciate the story of  &#8220;The Emperor who had on clothes on&#8221;.  By and large, our society&#8217;s values have been eroded through coveting more wealth and  more economic growth.  It undoubtly painted a picture of wrong placement of values in every aspect of our lives.  Thank you for painting the picture so detailed and candidly.  Indeed, our society needs more such &#8220;little boy&#8221; to reflect reality.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>204) Lim Leng Hiong on June 30th, 2008 1.56 pm

also, if I haven&#039;t mentioned yet, I think your response was well written. It helps me sort of see things from your point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>204) Lim Leng Hiong on June 30th, 2008 1.56 pm</p>
<p>also, if I haven&#8217;t mentioned yet, I think your response was well written. It helps me sort of see things from your point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to qualify the above answer,

but I would not blame the firm if they can find someone better than me, unless the decision to lay me off is a matter of favoritism or biasness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to qualify the above answer,</p>
<p>but I would not blame the firm if they can find someone better than me, unless the decision to lay me off is a matter of favoritism or biasness.</p>
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		<title>By: amanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 20:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>204) Lim Leng Hiong on June 30th, 2008 1.56 pm

--&gt;If you realize that YOU were going to be the next player to be switched out, would you greet this shining future with a smile?

I do not know what a football player would feel. 

But if put in a workplace context, say, if I believe there is a good chance that I would be laid off by my firm, I would definitely be worried and start looking for alternatives (eg. to search for other jobs). 

So the answer to your question is no, I would be worried.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>204) Lim Leng Hiong on June 30th, 2008 1.56 pm</p>
<p>&#8211;&gt;If you realize that YOU were going to be the next player to be switched out, would you greet this shining future with a smile?</p>
<p>I do not know what a football player would feel. </p>
<p>But if put in a workplace context, say, if I believe there is a good chance that I would be laid off by my firm, I would definitely be worried and start looking for alternatives (eg. to search for other jobs). </p>
<p>So the answer to your question is no, I would be worried.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiredman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiredman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lim Leng Hiong,
You have earned my respect.

It is very difficult to walk in Singapore. It is even tougher to breathe in Singapore. Sometime, I am even worried for the younger generations. The ever increasing prices of the necessities but the salary of the low skill workers have stagnant or even dipped worries me. 

Many rich people failed to have any idea of how people tighten their belts to curb inflation. My dad does not earn much, hence, can consider myself in this group of people. Perhaps what make me looks better then others is to have access to internet. 

Economic theory talks about constraints, trade off, opportunity cost and blablabla... Hence, with the extra entertainment, what I see on my dinning table would be mostly vegetables with few pieces of meat and a bowl of rice.

People like Amanda who fails to put herself into the Poor’s shoes is understandable however she has gone overboard. She fails to understand each individual has their own constraints and they are also fighting for a breathing space so please don’t penalize low skilled workers by suppressing their wage. To most economist, minimum wage is a bad idea as the trade off is the increase in unemployment rate. I believe the main point is to help these unfortunate ones. Everyone plays a part for the success of the county and shall not be forgotten when these people have retired. These retirees should be recognized and remunerates them reasonably well if they decided to continue to contribute to the economy as most of the time, good economy accompanies inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lim Leng Hiong,<br />
You have earned my respect.</p>
<p>It is very difficult to walk in Singapore. It is even tougher to breathe in Singapore. Sometime, I am even worried for the younger generations. The ever increasing prices of the necessities but the salary of the low skill workers have stagnant or even dipped worries me. </p>
<p>Many rich people failed to have any idea of how people tighten their belts to curb inflation. My dad does not earn much, hence, can consider myself in this group of people. Perhaps what make me looks better then others is to have access to internet. </p>
<p>Economic theory talks about constraints, trade off, opportunity cost and blablabla&#8230; Hence, with the extra entertainment, what I see on my dinning table would be mostly vegetables with few pieces of meat and a bowl of rice.</p>
<p>People like Amanda who fails to put herself into the Poor’s shoes is understandable however she has gone overboard. She fails to understand each individual has their own constraints and they are also fighting for a breathing space so please don’t penalize low skilled workers by suppressing their wage. To most economist, minimum wage is a bad idea as the trade off is the increase in unemployment rate. I believe the main point is to help these unfortunate ones. Everyone plays a part for the success of the county and shall not be forgotten when these people have retired. These retirees should be recognized and remunerates them reasonably well if they decided to continue to contribute to the economy as most of the time, good economy accompanies inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Lim Leng Hiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lim Leng Hiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Patriot and Edn:

Glad that you like my writings, I prefer to write about science. I&#039;ll comment at the TOC occasionally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Patriot and Edn:</p>
<p>Glad that you like my writings, I prefer to write about science. I&#8217;ll comment at the TOC occasionally.</p>
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