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	<title>Comments on: How &#8220;public&#8221; is S&#8217;pore&#8217;s public transportation system?</title>
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		<title>By: LiveWithIt</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-2/#comment-15217</link>
		<dc:creator>LiveWithIt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is Singapore. We are a small island and we love peace. In Singaporeans&#039; mind, if &#039;they&#039; want to increase, what can we do? Will they really listen to all this feedbacks all of you here giving now? Wake up! The answer is NO. They are smart, unlike some other countries. They will not increase 1 dollar or more, they will tell you 1 cent, 3 cent. Over the time you will get it. 

Anyway what can we do, We just LOVE PEACE. Change your mindset! LIVE WITH IT!

Don&#039;t waste time here. What we should do now is to earn more money to pay for the increasing standard of living in Singapore. I always think that the more richer you are, the more all this &quot;increased in standard of living&quot; will benefit you. Looking forward for the opening of the whole stretch of KPE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is Singapore. We are a small island and we love peace. In Singaporeans&#8217; mind, if &#8216;they&#8217; want to increase, what can we do? Will they really listen to all this feedbacks all of you here giving now? Wake up! The answer is NO. They are smart, unlike some other countries. They will not increase 1 dollar or more, they will tell you 1 cent, 3 cent. Over the time you will get it. </p>
<p>Anyway what can we do, We just LOVE PEACE. Change your mindset! LIVE WITH IT!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t waste time here. What we should do now is to earn more money to pay for the increasing standard of living in Singapore. I always think that the more richer you are, the more all this &#8220;increased in standard of living&#8221; will benefit you. Looking forward for the opening of the whole stretch of KPE.</p>
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		<title>By: S’pore’s public transportation system good ?</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-2/#comment-14281</link>
		<dc:creator>S’pore’s public transportation system good ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50) ng65 on July 7th, 2008 1.43 pm

&quot;In fact, I find many of them merely reflect the well-known short-falls, some of them gave hypothetical reasons, and others even wrote personal and political attacks. What I also find disappointing is the absence of gracious lucid articulation&quot;

The only lucid thing is that our pockets gets burned deeper and deeper with no imporovement but the situation getting worst because of unforseen consequences. So what solutions &amp; gracious lucid articulation are we talking about. They have been experimenting (you may call it deliberately planning) for so many years with COE, PARF, ERP, weekend plate, high fuel tax, taxi fare (with so many levels of costs that add to confusion rather than enligtenment), privatisation in the name of competition and whatnots and so what do you get finally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50) ng65 on July 7th, 2008 1.43 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;In fact, I find many of them merely reflect the well-known short-falls, some of them gave hypothetical reasons, and others even wrote personal and political attacks. What I also find disappointing is the absence of gracious lucid articulation&#8221;</p>
<p>The only lucid thing is that our pockets gets burned deeper and deeper with no imporovement but the situation getting worst because of unforseen consequences. So what solutions &amp; gracious lucid articulation are we talking about. They have been experimenting (you may call it deliberately planning) for so many years with COE, PARF, ERP, weekend plate, high fuel tax, taxi fare (with so many levels of costs that add to confusion rather than enligtenment), privatisation in the name of competition and whatnots and so what do you get finally.</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-2/#comment-14279</link>
		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, for SBS Transit, although group revenues have been increasing, profits have maintained (at lower rates than SMRT) from 2004 to 2007. That at least has been some consolation...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, for SBS Transit, although group revenues have been increasing, profits have maintained (at lower rates than SMRT) from 2004 to 2007. That at least has been some consolation&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-2/#comment-14278</link>
		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 08:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just took a look at the latest P&amp;L for SMRT.

Record $150m profit on $800m revenues for FY 2008 from $135m profit on $740m revenues in FY 2007. 8% revenue growth and 11% profit growth. Increasing oil costs? 

So despite increasing costs, do people in Singapore actually pay more for a public good to fund shareholders profits as well? :-)

Will FY 2009 see even higher record profit? Doesn&#039;t take a genius to guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just took a look at the latest P&amp;L for SMRT.</p>
<p>Record $150m profit on $800m revenues for FY 2008 from $135m profit on $740m revenues in FY 2007. 8% revenue growth and 11% profit growth. Increasing oil costs? </p>
<p>So despite increasing costs, do people in Singapore actually pay more for a public good to fund shareholders profits as well? :-)</p>
<p>Will FY 2009 see even higher record profit? Doesn&#8217;t take a genius to guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ng65</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-14263</link>
		<dc:creator>ng65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally share the same experiences of public traffic congestion. With the plan of increasing the population to 6 to 7 million by 2027 in pipeline, the need for an efficient transportation system becomes even more important.

Both the deficiencies and the necessity for improve are clear.

What is more uncertain, in my opinion, is how best to fix it. I&#039;m not entirely sure that nationalizing public transportation will definitely work. A quick scan across the world reveals that nationalization works for some countries but not others: (1) state ownership works in France, (2) privatization works in Japan, (3) nothing works in UK.

A more pragmatic approach is to examine available information objectively and to explore new solutions without fear or failure. To achieve this, both the government and people need to change.

The government needs to be more transparent about the traffic statistics and revenue. Availability of information allows more people, for example universities or interested individuals, to understand the situation and to propose new perspectives objectively. What is equally important is communication of the rational behind public policies to the people. I find these efforts seriously lacking.

On the other end, I (sorry for being equally blatant) find some responses from the public useless at alleviating the current problem. In fact, I find many of them merely reflect the well-known short-falls, some of them gave hypothetical reasons, and others even wrote personal and political attacks. What I also find disappointing is the absence of gracious lucid articulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally share the same experiences of public traffic congestion. With the plan of increasing the population to 6 to 7 million by 2027 in pipeline, the need for an efficient transportation system becomes even more important.</p>
<p>Both the deficiencies and the necessity for improve are clear.</p>
<p>What is more uncertain, in my opinion, is how best to fix it. I&#8217;m not entirely sure that nationalizing public transportation will definitely work. A quick scan across the world reveals that nationalization works for some countries but not others: (1) state ownership works in France, (2) privatization works in Japan, (3) nothing works in UK.</p>
<p>A more pragmatic approach is to examine available information objectively and to explore new solutions without fear or failure. To achieve this, both the government and people need to change.</p>
<p>The government needs to be more transparent about the traffic statistics and revenue. Availability of information allows more people, for example universities or interested individuals, to understand the situation and to propose new perspectives objectively. What is equally important is communication of the rational behind public policies to the people. I find these efforts seriously lacking.</p>
<p>On the other end, I (sorry for being equally blatant) find some responses from the public useless at alleviating the current problem. In fact, I find many of them merely reflect the well-known short-falls, some of them gave hypothetical reasons, and others even wrote personal and political attacks. What I also find disappointing is the absence of gracious lucid articulation.</p>
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		<title>By: lulu</title>
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		<dc:creator>lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although the transportation companies cannot please everyone, they try to meet the needs of at least the majority, but the issues raised are not new. and at least 3 out of 5 issues raised are from some of the majority i&#039;m sure. 
is the transportation companies really not listening hard enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although the transportation companies cannot please everyone, they try to meet the needs of at least the majority, but the issues raised are not new. and at least 3 out of 5 issues raised are from some of the majority i&#8217;m sure.<br />
is the transportation companies really not listening hard enough?</p>
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		<title>By: mayc</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-14242</link>
		<dc:creator>mayc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government is trying to encourage ppl to take public transport, but how much effort they have put in to improve the public transport services so far? Imagine you have to spend at least 1 hour to take a trunk service from one end to the other end where a car can reach within half an hour. Bear in mind that, that is excluding the waiting time. So, in total, you need at least 1 and half hour to reach your destination. Of course, ppl will opt for car rather than public transport since it save lots of travel time. I would suggest the trunk service to be reviewed so as to come up with a more comprehensive route map.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government is trying to encourage ppl to take public transport, but how much effort they have put in to improve the public transport services so far? Imagine you have to spend at least 1 hour to take a trunk service from one end to the other end where a car can reach within half an hour. Bear in mind that, that is excluding the waiting time. So, in total, you need at least 1 and half hour to reach your destination. Of course, ppl will opt for car rather than public transport since it save lots of travel time. I would suggest the trunk service to be reviewed so as to come up with a more comprehensive route map.</p>
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		<title>By: Faircomment</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-14195</link>
		<dc:creator>Faircomment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The govt&#039;s decision to privatise &quot;public&quot; transport is not to improve efficiency.  Rather, it is to deflect public criticism of impending price hikes on a regular basis.  

Imagine the heartlanders&#039; outcry if a clearly govt-owned transport company increases fares as blatantly as what SMRT and SBS did so regularly.  Now, our govt can &quot;honestly&quot; claim that these fare increases are commercial decisions (not govt decision) of any publicly listed companies which must answer to their shareholders.  However, the govt conveniently fails to mention that it is also the biggest shareholder.  

Many netizens know what the govt say is partially true, but it is NOT the whole truth.  As even more heartlander uncles and aunties do not know they whole truth, these are the 66.6% who give their votes to PAP after receiving GE handouts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The govt&#8217;s decision to privatise &#8220;public&#8221; transport is not to improve efficiency.  Rather, it is to deflect public criticism of impending price hikes on a regular basis.  </p>
<p>Imagine the heartlanders&#8217; outcry if a clearly govt-owned transport company increases fares as blatantly as what SMRT and SBS did so regularly.  Now, our govt can &#8220;honestly&#8221; claim that these fare increases are commercial decisions (not govt decision) of any publicly listed companies which must answer to their shareholders.  However, the govt conveniently fails to mention that it is also the biggest shareholder.  </p>
<p>Many netizens know what the govt say is partially true, but it is NOT the whole truth.  As even more heartlander uncles and aunties do not know they whole truth, these are the 66.6% who give their votes to PAP after receiving GE handouts.</p>
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		<title>By: Grow Some</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grow Some</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 17:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please remember all your grievances and unhappiness the next time GE comes around.  Please please please don&#039;t be taken in by handouts that are taken back the moment the GE is over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please remember all your grievances and unhappiness the next time GE comes around.  Please please please don&#8217;t be taken in by handouts that are taken back the moment the GE is over.</p>
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		<title>By: hongjun</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-14127</link>
		<dc:creator>hongjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 05:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Singapore government encourages more to travel using the public transport like buses or trains in a bid to ease traffic flow and better air environment.

A series of measures, like increasing ERP charges and installing more ERP gantries at various &quot;strategic&quot; locations, have been implemented to discourage owning a car. To encourage more to take public transport, LTA has come up with a masterplan to make travelling easier. Higher frequencies of buses and trains between intervals especially during peak hours are ordered by the LTA to transport operators.

Question comes down to &quot;Are Singaporeans taking public or private transport?&quot; Now, all transport operators are privatised and the big players like SMRT, SBS Transit and Comfort DelGro, are all listed on the stock market. They will need to answer to shareholders and ensure y-o-y profit are improving, if not maintained.

How many times have we read, seen or heard of complaints from commuters because of overcrowded trains or buses, or filthy buses? How many minutes have been wasted because of long waits for buses or trains? How often do you read of passengers complaining on taxi drivers &quot;hiding&quot; from the streets but suddenly reappear out of nowhere with a &quot;On Call&quot; sign?

Despite higher oil prices, SMRT still managed to report higher net profit of S$149.9M, up 10.4%. So, is their past arguments on a need to up transport fares justifiable? Also, are the public consulted prior to an increase in on-board rate for cabs? The taxi operators simply proceeded with their increase without listening to both the cab drivers and passengers. Profit is number ONE.

Let&#039;s admit the fact that we, Singaporeans, no longer are taking public transport. We are taking PRIVATE transport. I will not be surprised should transport operators submit another round of fee hike proposal and get it approved year in year out. It&#039;s time to introduce and bring in big and new players so no single operator can &quot;monopolise&quot; the market. When I says big, I really mean big if not their influence to the market is of little if not negligible insignificance. Remember how the other smaller taxi operators have no choice but to follow big boy Comfort DelGro up in fare prices?


hongjun
http://hongjun.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Singapore government encourages more to travel using the public transport like buses or trains in a bid to ease traffic flow and better air environment.</p>
<p>A series of measures, like increasing ERP charges and installing more ERP gantries at various &#8220;strategic&#8221; locations, have been implemented to discourage owning a car. To encourage more to take public transport, LTA has come up with a masterplan to make travelling easier. Higher frequencies of buses and trains between intervals especially during peak hours are ordered by the LTA to transport operators.</p>
<p>Question comes down to &#8220;Are Singaporeans taking public or private transport?&#8221; Now, all transport operators are privatised and the big players like SMRT, SBS Transit and Comfort DelGro, are all listed on the stock market. They will need to answer to shareholders and ensure y-o-y profit are improving, if not maintained.</p>
<p>How many times have we read, seen or heard of complaints from commuters because of overcrowded trains or buses, or filthy buses? How many minutes have been wasted because of long waits for buses or trains? How often do you read of passengers complaining on taxi drivers &#8220;hiding&#8221; from the streets but suddenly reappear out of nowhere with a &#8220;On Call&#8221; sign?</p>
<p>Despite higher oil prices, SMRT still managed to report higher net profit of S$149.9M, up 10.4%. So, is their past arguments on a need to up transport fares justifiable? Also, are the public consulted prior to an increase in on-board rate for cabs? The taxi operators simply proceeded with their increase without listening to both the cab drivers and passengers. Profit is number ONE.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s admit the fact that we, Singaporeans, no longer are taking public transport. We are taking PRIVATE transport. I will not be surprised should transport operators submit another round of fee hike proposal and get it approved year in year out. It&#8217;s time to introduce and bring in big and new players so no single operator can &#8220;monopolise&#8221; the market. When I says big, I really mean big if not their influence to the market is of little if not negligible insignificance. Remember how the other smaller taxi operators have no choice but to follow big boy Comfort DelGro up in fare prices?</p>
<p>hongjun<br />
<a href="http://hongjun.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://hongjun.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Public and Konfidential</title>
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		<dc:creator>Public and Konfidential</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a period where the mantra was privatise to imrove efficiency. And there was this recent fad of outsourcing - the echo was loud and clear, to outsource so-called non-essential work to parties that can do the job better, and the out-sourcing Company concentrate on its core business.

So it must goes to follow, perhaps somewhere , perhaps part of the governing of Singapore need to be &#039;ptivatised&#039; and &#039;outsourced&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a period where the mantra was privatise to imrove efficiency. And there was this recent fad of outsourcing &#8211; the echo was loud and clear, to outsource so-called non-essential work to parties that can do the job better, and the out-sourcing Company concentrate on its core business.</p>
<p>So it must goes to follow, perhaps somewhere , perhaps part of the governing of Singapore need to be &#8216;ptivatised&#8217; and &#8216;outsourced&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: fart them</title>
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		<dc:creator>fart them</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you still believe in talking with these moron thick skin people for change? leopard will never change its spot. migrating to australia soon. Being a 2nd/3rd class citizen there is still better than be an impotent stinkapoor citizen here rule by elite uncaring face morons who self-claim to be 1st world leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you still believe in talking with these moron thick skin people for change? leopard will never change its spot. migrating to australia soon. Being a 2nd/3rd class citizen there is still better than be an impotent stinkapoor citizen here rule by elite uncaring face morons who self-claim to be 1st world leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahman:

Bus no 197 and 198 do not come from the same terminal. One is from Jurong East and the other is from Boon Lay. But, I have experienced similar cases (quite often actually) where 2 double-deck 198 bus has passed before a single-deck 197 bus showed up.

As for &quot;de-privatising&quot; of the public transport? I don&#039;t think it would make much of a difference now.

As it is: 
Their routes are &quot;government-approved&quot; ones.
Their fares are &quot;government-approved&quot; ones.
And: Guess who&#039;s the major share holder for both SMRT and SBS? (There was even an article in TOC on this)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahman:</p>
<p>Bus no 197 and 198 do not come from the same terminal. One is from Jurong East and the other is from Boon Lay. But, I have experienced similar cases (quite often actually) where 2 double-deck 198 bus has passed before a single-deck 197 bus showed up.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;de-privatising&#8221; of the public transport? I don&#8217;t think it would make much of a difference now.</p>
<p>As it is:<br />
Their routes are &#8220;government-approved&#8221; ones.<br />
Their fares are &#8220;government-approved&#8221; ones.<br />
And: Guess who&#8217;s the major share holder for both SMRT and SBS? (There was even an article in TOC on this)</p>
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		<title>By: Terence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my perspective, I think the LTA and MOT have lost it. People who drive their posh cars do not understand what daily commuters like us face, and try to rationalize an alien concept of public transport with their colored lenses. They are refuting everything the public tells them, based on the rationale that they understand the public best. Duh. They really need to wake up and do a major overhaul.  Cut the volume of cars, designate bicycle lanes so people can cycle to work, eradicate all the other useless ERP gantries and confine them to the CBD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my perspective, I think the LTA and MOT have lost it. People who drive their posh cars do not understand what daily commuters like us face, and try to rationalize an alien concept of public transport with their colored lenses. They are refuting everything the public tells them, based on the rationale that they understand the public best. Duh. They really need to wake up and do a major overhaul.  Cut the volume of cars, designate bicycle lanes so people can cycle to work, eradicate all the other useless ERP gantries and confine them to the CBD.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a matter of time before Singapore is completely filled with the rich and tourists while the poor gets extinct.</description>
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		<title>By: Kaomangai</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaomangai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think all of us should realize that Singapore as a country is privatized. It is one BIG corporation where PROFIT is the only consideration. So transportation is only a reflection of the bigger picture. 

Yes, what can we do about it? BIG ZIP. As the ministar incharge of introducing the New Water said - Singaporean will adjust to new levels of discomfort in time. (or something to that effect!) So, if the PAP (or the Board of Directors of Singapore Inc) wanted to implement something, it will get done irrespective.

Some said that PAP will be punished in the next GE. Do you really think that PAP will allow that to happen. There are really imaginative and lawful ways to adjust things before the next GE. It is not true that 66.6% voted for PAP. 66.6% who got to vote voted for PAP. I cannot imagine how many of us never got the chance to even vote. If you transpose that percentage over the whole of the Singapore electorate, it will be a very interesting percentage. So dream on Singaporeans!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all of us should realize that Singapore as a country is privatized. It is one BIG corporation where PROFIT is the only consideration. So transportation is only a reflection of the bigger picture. </p>
<p>Yes, what can we do about it? BIG ZIP. As the ministar incharge of introducing the New Water said &#8211; Singaporean will adjust to new levels of discomfort in time. (or something to that effect!) So, if the PAP (or the Board of Directors of Singapore Inc) wanted to implement something, it will get done irrespective.</p>
<p>Some said that PAP will be punished in the next GE. Do you really think that PAP will allow that to happen. There are really imaginative and lawful ways to adjust things before the next GE. It is not true that 66.6% voted for PAP. 66.6% who got to vote voted for PAP. I cannot imagine how many of us never got the chance to even vote. If you transpose that percentage over the whole of the Singapore electorate, it will be a very interesting percentage. So dream on Singaporeans!</p>
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		<title>By: Rahman</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-13907</link>
		<dc:creator>Rahman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was waiting for a bus 197 last evening and waited for a cool 40 minutes before a single-deck crammed with people appeared. While waiting, I noted at least 5 quite empty and new 198 have whisked past. Since they are from the same bus terminal, why can&#039;t the terminal people in charge do better planning. It was peak hour and many people have to cram onto the old and single deck 197. Worse still, since I could not get on the bus, I waited another 20 minutes before the next one appeared. I stood on the bus for a full 45 minutes,smelling the sweats etc of my fellow passenger throughout the journey, a very uncomfortable experience. So reaching the bus stop at about 6 p.m., I did not reach home until 8 p.m.

That&#039;s a world class public transportation system for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was waiting for a bus 197 last evening and waited for a cool 40 minutes before a single-deck crammed with people appeared. While waiting, I noted at least 5 quite empty and new 198 have whisked past. Since they are from the same bus terminal, why can&#8217;t the terminal people in charge do better planning. It was peak hour and many people have to cram onto the old and single deck 197. Worse still, since I could not get on the bus, I waited another 20 minutes before the next one appeared. I stood on the bus for a full 45 minutes,smelling the sweats etc of my fellow passenger throughout the journey, a very uncomfortable experience. So reaching the bus stop at about 6 p.m., I did not reach home until 8 p.m.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a world class public transportation system for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Milkfish,
not only you have to search for 2nd job, I am sure many of us can&#039;t cope with the rising cost. For poor people, govt give rebate and handout, but for people between poor and middle income, who is going to help us ? pap govt ? no way. They can take ur money, but you can&#039;t get anything from them. Don&#039;t talk about GST rebate, that is a ploy. They give you $100, they expect to take back $500, that is pap. that is Ng eng hen. Prices of food, transport, petrol, medical, electricity, rent, housing, all go up. You name it you have it. Govt can&#039;t control, then who can control. pap will say it is world phenomenion, supply &amp; demand. Then I say your govt is lousy. You are not talented, but you collect private CEO salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Milkfish,<br />
not only you have to search for 2nd job, I am sure many of us can&#8217;t cope with the rising cost. For poor people, govt give rebate and handout, but for people between poor and middle income, who is going to help us ? pap govt ? no way. They can take ur money, but you can&#8217;t get anything from them. Don&#8217;t talk about GST rebate, that is a ploy. They give you $100, they expect to take back $500, that is pap. that is Ng eng hen. Prices of food, transport, petrol, medical, electricity, rent, housing, all go up. You name it you have it. Govt can&#8217;t control, then who can control. pap will say it is world phenomenion, supply &amp; demand. Then I say your govt is lousy. You are not talented, but you collect private CEO salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Teoh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-13903</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Teoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t talk about CASE, it is a disgrace body. It can&#039;t help the consumer. It should protest about the price hike, but instead it protested about selling junk food to the children. What kind of body is this. Please boycott CASE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t talk about CASE, it is a disgrace body. It can&#8217;t help the consumer. It should protest about the price hike, but instead it protested about selling junk food to the children. What kind of body is this. Please boycott CASE.</p>
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		<title>By: Singaporespirit</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/how-public-is-spores-public-transportation-system/comment-page-1/#comment-13897</link>
		<dc:creator>Singaporespirit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do your grocery shopping near your vicinity.  Cancel your credit cards with all the banks!  Don&#039;t get enticed to borrow from legal lenders.  Don&#039;t gamble your hard-earned money away. Because this is the subtle way to get back the handouts the Government  so helped us.  SPEND WHAT YOU NEED AND NOT WHAT YOU WANT.  Eat at home and build good relations with your loved ones. Cut down unnecessary luxurious lifestyle like going to spa, expensive restaurants, cinemas, and travels.  Thanks , xtrakm for starting the ball rolling!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do your grocery shopping near your vicinity.  Cancel your credit cards with all the banks!  Don&#8217;t get enticed to borrow from legal lenders.  Don&#8217;t gamble your hard-earned money away. Because this is the subtle way to get back the handouts the Government  so helped us.  SPEND WHAT YOU NEED AND NOT WHAT YOU WANT.  Eat at home and build good relations with your loved ones. Cut down unnecessary luxurious lifestyle like going to spa, expensive restaurants, cinemas, and travels.  Thanks , xtrakm for starting the ball rolling!!!</p>
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