As soon as possible please.

It’s food, vaccinations, cosmetics, donated organs that one needs to be afraid of because
#1. hidden toxics are still in everyday foods
#2. there’s mercury in modern vaccinations (to preserve them)
#3. sick diseased animals get rendered (recycled) as herbivore feed and into some cosmetics so creams/gels slide on ‘effortlessly”

How good are organs when scientists are able to genetically clone them and modify them? I shudder at these thoughts!

And perhaps the biggest scam even bigger than NKF’s? You were programmed to believe that cancer has NO CURE! Go to Amazon.com to look for books on cancer cure. How many of you are lied to that cancer has no cure – only control? They say the same thing for everything from cancer, constipation, diabetes, heart diseases to pimples – NO CURE ONLY CONTROL! READ THIS (just one of the many sources about Cancer) —-> http://www.cancertruth.net/faq.html (No, this is not my site!)

Yes, I and my family were under THAT kind of control but knowing the truth has set us free. We are no longer taking meat – the major cause of diseases and global warming.

Knowing what lies we’ve been fed, we now no longer support Cancer Research. I find I also recover faster from colds and flu than those who see their doctors for anti-biotics,

Feel free to connect with me – http://www.Twitter.com/qutequte —> the same network that Obama was on before he got elected.

Read Organ Robbery at: http://matrixisland.blogspot.com/search/label/Organ%20Robbery and http://matrixisland.blogspot.com/2007/02/aftermath-of-organ-robbery.html

This is really disgusting and this news were not even mentioned on the MSM, at least not that I know of till today of such horrible incident taking place here at our SGH.

Yes, I fully agree with that too. And you are also right, kidneys cannot be grown back naturally except to be cloned. (I somehow shiver when I think of what cloning means!)

Someone else asked,”How many kidney patients can really afford to buy a kidney?”

haha Have a look at the Forbes Magazine to see how many of top millionaires can afford one (even in times of this global recession).

It’s alright Knowledgeable – about the “useless thoughts people interject thinking they’re contributing”. There are always gurus and students everywhere! Someone is always around to correct or clarify the info.

First of all, some idiot here compared selling your own organs to selling your kids, saying it’s a slippery slope.

First off, this is comparing apples to buicks. Your kidney is not a living thinking person, and you by default own your own organs, you don’t own other people, so this argument is specious and completely ridicules. Selling people is slavery, selling organs is not even close to the same thing. Also, this practice goes on, and always will I guess, whether you, or I sell our organs or not. One has nothing to to with the other. I can see comparing two things that you feel are equally taboo, but some on, they are not even in the same ball park, for the above reasons stated.

One person stated that there would be a rise in black market kidnapings and thefts of human organs. This is an urban legend, and will happen more in an “illegal” atmosphere, not in a legal one, which increases supply, and lowers the cost, making something illegal actually raises it’s cost. If it were made legal, logic would dictate that such things would never happen, since you can’t simply walk into a legal donation center, if any such exist, and say “Here’s a cooler with a kidney, give me 10 G’s”. Whoever the genius was who thought this argument up, well, is no genius.

Someone named Jill, wrote something similar, saying she did not “think” a dubious word in this persons case, that making something legal would prevent a black market.

Hmm, well Jill, if it is made legal in that country, yes it will. If it is made legal in America but not in say, Yugoslavia, than no, it would not prevent a black market in Yugoslavia, that’s true. However, Jill, if you had actually thought before you wrote your post, you’d realize that making it legal will indeed shut down virtually all black market activities in this area. How so? Glad you asked.

A, prices are set, or there is a system in place to calculate value. Regulations are set in place, hence supply goes way up. It is supply that causes the black market, or more accurately the lack thereof which creates the illegal trade. Satisfy the demand, and there is no longer any profit in black market activities.

Now come the bleeding heart liberals, the people who’s only interest is your interest. Of course these same people are sitting at home, relaxed and comfortable, whilst you suffer. “OH poor you, I am protecting you from being used an abused”. LOL, get a life bleeding heart.

First off, if you really cared about this persons plight, give them some money, or pay their heat, or donate to a homeless shelter, money or time. What you don’t do though is interject what you feel is your more “sound” judgment into the lives and decisions of others. Poor doesn’t mean stupid, and it annoys me when someone thinks they are morally superior to the point that they can arbitrate right and wrong on a mass scale, or my own small personal one. Say I do wish to sell my Kidney for 10 grand. Personally I wouldn’t take less than a million, but you see my point. Who exactly are you to say I am being used, abused, or in need of protection. You stop me from finding a way to support me or my family, but satisfy your conscience by saying “there is a better way.” Of course you the do gooder, so you think, doesn’t help me find that better way.

The Liberal is always about a better way, about ideals, about moral superiority, but when it comes to solutions, oh well, there are better ones, but you just don’t know what they are. Money, sure, you gonna give me some?

You see the problem here folks, is that you are choosing to stick your long, set in stone noses into morally ambiguous waters, where a single argument holds very little if any sand. People vary, as do their needs and reasons. You can’t apply one solution to a million different problems, and call yourself superior, or right in any way shape or form, what hubris, what arrogance.

I read yet another response from someone saying that there are other ways to help the poor, that if we just teach our children better, and to be more compassionate, than things will change. Anyone see the problem in this weak, ill thought out, non specific dribble? It sounds good, but it solves nothing. I don’t see a solution here. You can teach compassion until it is coming out of your eyeballs. Unless your willing to turn your garage into a soup kitchen, donate half your wealth to build homes and training programs,a nd everyone else does the same. I mean really, the government in the USA has spent so much money on the war in Iraq, to free people who didn’t want freedom, that we could have used that same money to buy each and every homeless person in America their own house. That’s right folks, do the math yourself, it’s scary. Therefore, until you have an actual solution, don’t bad mouth the options that people actually do have, or make it harder, by say making it illegal.

Than I read some other fool saying “How many kidney patients an really afford to buy a kidney”?

Duh, hello, why would you think that voluntary donation from suckers who would give away a piece of themselves for nothing, while everyone else is profiting, is going to go away? There are far to many nit wits who want to imagine they are a hero for being used as suckers. Making selling legal would simply bolster and likely solve the supply problem, that’s all. Some of is are well aware of the pain, as well as sever life time health problems that can come from giving and organ. Better to sell it and have money to pay for the health care you, the sucker, likely will need.

I would not recommend selling a kidney though, livers can grow back, at least in part, kidneys, no. Yes folks, in most cases the liver grows back almost fully, if not fully, kidneys, sorry no re growth. Liver operations are more risky though.

Anyhow, to end my post, I of course think it should be legal. For one, to remove the onus from it. Two, to give a hand up to those who have no other choice. Let’s face it, in these dog eat dog times, more people have fewer choice. Also, it would be safer, and regulated, any illegal trade is less so now.

I also think many here have no conception of the black market trade and how it works. There isn’t much anonymous coolers being handed off and bought. You still need a doctor, and in most cases a hospital, to do these operations. On the surface most illegal transactions seem perfectly legal, with the illegal negotiating having happened behind closed doors. All that would change is that more people would be able to do it, and therefore supply would go up. It would also destroy the part of the trade, where it was made legal that is, that uses clinics set up in jungles by disgraced unlicensed doctors. This is th part of the black market that is really dangerous, poorly set up facilities that put peoples lives in danger. In making selling your organs illegal, you morally superior geniuses actually help these oafs make money.

Yes, do feel good that you have cast down the practice as loathsome and evil, though you really now can’t say why, since most of your arguments now lie in ruin. Logic seems greatly wanting here, with only a few people of even average intellect. It does indeed sicken me how many stupid people interject their mind numbingly useless thoughts thinking they are actually contributing.

Reply @Jessica #73:
As of now, I read somewhere that the govt is looking at what’s to be compensated for those who’ve donated at least one kidney in the past. But whether that is considered “sale of kidney’ remains to be seen.

Consider it not twice but thrice! Because you only have one kidney to live on and you won’t be able to get your sold/donated kidney back, in the event that other family member needs. To think through VERY carefully before you sell/donate your kidney and the best of luck (God bless!) if you decide to do so.

No doubt, it’s easier to sell an organ than to give an organ away.

Are they the poor?

I suspect these are the people who never think they will sell their own organs…

They don’t want to sell their organs, but yet they want to have better assurance that when they need it they can buy it…

The author of this article, do you think he ever imagine himself selling his organs? I personally doubt that question ever come to his mind.