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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SG Daily Special: 43rd National Day</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-16894</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; SG Daily Special: 43rd National Day</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jul 08 - Diary of A Singaporean Mind: Don’t say Goodbye… - TOC: I am a patriot - My Singapore News: After 45 years of independence… - Hear Ye! Hear Ye!: The NDP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Conjob</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15738</link>
		<dc:creator>Conjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PAP is running Singapore like an exclusive business.
Patriotism means we put them out of business in 2011 to ensure Singapore is a country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PAP is running Singapore like an exclusive business.<br />
Patriotism means we put them out of business in 2011 to ensure Singapore is a country.</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15683</link>
		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patriotic?

Just how many flags do you see being put up when National Day is just round the corner.

Nothing like what it was 10 years ago.

There is no &#039;We&#039; only &#039;I&#039; these days.

Common Singaporeans are no longer citizens but just a digit / commodity / factor of production in name of economic advancement.

Does putting up a flag get you $$$.  Exactly...there you see it, the Singapore way.


$$$ talks, BS walks . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patriotic?</p>
<p>Just how many flags do you see being put up when National Day is just round the corner.</p>
<p>Nothing like what it was 10 years ago.</p>
<p>There is no &#8216;We&#8217; only &#8216;I&#8217; these days.</p>
<p>Common Singaporeans are no longer citizens but just a digit / commodity / factor of production in name of economic advancement.</p>
<p>Does putting up a flag get you $$$.  Exactly&#8230;there you see it, the Singapore way.</p>
<p>$$$ talks, BS walks . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15636</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>USA and Singapore are two different situations.

USA has gone through 2 world wars, became a world superpower in less than 50yrs and has spent resources in every other region. Almost all Americans are safely considered patriots.

Singapore has been very politically quiet for the past 50yrs since independence in 1965. No major incidents happened on our shores except for the recent Mas Selamat&#039;s surprise toilet break. Now with so many FTs, I think I can also safely say that almost all Singaporeans are not patriots, including me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>USA and Singapore are two different situations.</p>
<p>USA has gone through 2 world wars, became a world superpower in less than 50yrs and has spent resources in every other region. Almost all Americans are safely considered patriots.</p>
<p>Singapore has been very politically quiet for the past 50yrs since independence in 1965. No major incidents happened on our shores except for the recent Mas Selamat&#8217;s surprise toilet break. Now with so many FTs, I think I can also safely say that almost all Singaporeans are not patriots, including me.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15597</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If one follows Obama&#039;s definition on what is patriotism, then I find it difficult for people in Singapore to be one.

Just what are Singapore&#039;s ideals? They seem to have been misplaced somewhere in the pursuit of GDP growth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If one follows Obama&#8217;s definition on what is patriotism, then I find it difficult for people in Singapore to be one.</p>
<p>Just what are Singapore&#8217;s ideals? They seem to have been misplaced somewhere in the pursuit of GDP growth.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15595</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We did not choose to be born on this land - a bit of different circumstances would have resulted in us being Malaysians, for example. But the fact of the matter is we were born as Singaporeans - more so for the post-1965ers. And where those who migrate can be deemed loyal, only those who lived and grew up in any country can hope to be patriots. In that vein, a born and bred Singaporean who has renounced his or her citizenship has more clout to be patriotic than a migrant who &#039;contributes significantly to the society&#039;.

By this definition, only the second generation which is not yet in the upper rungs of the political administration can be truly patriotic. So, I would say our government (and leaders) is committed and loyal to the country and its development but can they be truly patriotic?

At the end of the day, patrioism should not be a choice but a calling - otherwise there&#039;d be no patriots in horribly run countries around the world. Where, in times of war, a patriot gives up his life and limb; in times of peace, he will give up his time, money and liberties for the betterment of the nation.

Having said that, Chee SJ does not seem to be bettering the society in spite of so much antics and I would deem Mr Chiam See Tong to be more of a patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We did not choose to be born on this land &#8211; a bit of different circumstances would have resulted in us being Malaysians, for example. But the fact of the matter is we were born as Singaporeans &#8211; more so for the post-1965ers. And where those who migrate can be deemed loyal, only those who lived and grew up in any country can hope to be patriots. In that vein, a born and bred Singaporean who has renounced his or her citizenship has more clout to be patriotic than a migrant who &#8216;contributes significantly to the society&#8217;.</p>
<p>By this definition, only the second generation which is not yet in the upper rungs of the political administration can be truly patriotic. So, I would say our government (and leaders) is committed and loyal to the country and its development but can they be truly patriotic?</p>
<p>At the end of the day, patrioism should not be a choice but a calling &#8211; otherwise there&#8217;d be no patriots in horribly run countries around the world. Where, in times of war, a patriot gives up his life and limb; in times of peace, he will give up his time, money and liberties for the betterment of the nation.</p>
<p>Having said that, Chee SJ does not seem to be bettering the society in spite of so much antics and I would deem Mr Chiam See Tong to be more of a patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaffein</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15567</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaffein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opninion,  an America politician may feel patriotism when he proclaims, &quot; I am a patriot&quot;.

A Singaporean MP may feel the same when he says , &quot;I am a parrot&quot;.

Get it?

Kaffein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opninion,  an America politician may feel patriotism when he proclaims, &#8221; I am a patriot&#8221;.</p>
<p>A Singaporean MP may feel the same when he says , &#8220;I am a parrot&#8221;.</p>
<p>Get it?</p>
<p>Kaffein</p>
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		<title>By: sick of singapore</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15562</link>
		<dc:creator>sick of singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Country? what country?! It&#039;s Singapore INC. 

Geez ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Country? what country?! It&#8217;s Singapore INC. </p>
<p>Geez &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15557</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope most singaporeans are not parrot to the gahmen but patriotic to the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope most singaporeans are not parrot to the gahmen but patriotic to the country.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 21 Jul 2008</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15521</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 21 Jul 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 03:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from nation to multinational - Diary of A Singaporean Mind: Don&#8217;t say Goodbye&#8230; - TOC: I am a patriot - My Singapore News: After 45 years of independence&#8230; - Hear Ye! Hear Ye!: The NDP [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from nation to multinational &#8211; Diary of A Singaporean Mind: Don&#8217;t say Goodbye&#8230; &#8211; TOC: I am a patriot &#8211; My Singapore News: After 45 years of independence&#8230; &#8211; Hear Ye! Hear Ye!: The NDP [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sarek_home</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15517</link>
		<dc:creator>sarek_home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some words from the speech.  It carries much truth in Singapore context, just replace &quot;patriotism&quot; with &quot;Pro-Singapore&quot; :

In other words, the &lt;b&gt;use of patriotism as a political sword or a political shield is as old as the Republic&lt;/b&gt;. Still, what is striking about today&#039;s patriotism debate is the degree to which it remains rooted in the culture wars of the 1960s - in arguments that go back forty years or more. In the early years of the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War, &lt;b&gt;defenders of the status quo often accused anybody who questioned the wisdom of government policies of being unpatriotic&lt;/b&gt;. Meanwhile, some of those in the so-called counter-culture of the Sixties reacted &lt;b&gt;not merely by criticizing particular government policies, but by attacking the symbols&lt;/b&gt;, and in extreme cases, the very idea, of America itself - by burning flags; by blaming America for all that was wrong with the world; and perhaps most tragically, by failing to honor those veterans coming home from Vietnam, something that remains a national shame to this day
.
Most Americans &lt;b&gt;never bought into these simplistic world-views - these caricatures of left and right. Most Americans understood that dissent does not make one unpatriotic&lt;/b&gt; , and that there is nothing smart or sophisticated about a cynical disregard for America&#039;s traditions and institutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some words from the speech.  It carries much truth in Singapore context, just replace &#8220;patriotism&#8221; with &#8220;Pro-Singapore&#8221; :</p>
<p>In other words, the <b>use of patriotism as a political sword or a political shield is as old as the Republic</b>. Still, what is striking about today&#8217;s patriotism debate is the degree to which it remains rooted in the culture wars of the 1960s &#8211; in arguments that go back forty years or more. In the early years of the civil rights movement and opposition to the Vietnam War, <b>defenders of the status quo often accused anybody who questioned the wisdom of government policies of being unpatriotic</b>. Meanwhile, some of those in the so-called counter-culture of the Sixties reacted <b>not merely by criticizing particular government policies, but by attacking the symbols</b>, and in extreme cases, the very idea, of America itself &#8211; by burning flags; by blaming America for all that was wrong with the world; and perhaps most tragically, by failing to honor those veterans coming home from Vietnam, something that remains a national shame to this day<br />
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Most Americans <b>never bought into these simplistic world-views &#8211; these caricatures of left and right. Most Americans understood that dissent does not make one unpatriotic</b> , and that there is nothing smart or sophisticated about a cynical disregard for America&#8217;s traditions and institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: guojun</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15510</link>
		<dc:creator>guojun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean, Singapore badly needs an Obama which somehow doesn&#039;t land his ass in jail.  Patriot?  I think people are generally patriotic, which is why we actually even bother discussing issues online.  Even people who have left may be patriotic...patriotic but disappointed.

But we&#039;re demonized by the Gahmen...and when it comes to Right vs Might Might always wins...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean, Singapore badly needs an Obama which somehow doesn&#8217;t land his ass in jail.  Patriot?  I think people are generally patriotic, which is why we actually even bother discussing issues online.  Even people who have left may be patriotic&#8230;patriotic but disappointed.</p>
<p>But we&#8217;re demonized by the Gahmen&#8230;and when it comes to Right vs Might Might always wins&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pondefecator</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15508</link>
		<dc:creator>Pondefecator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A possible example of cognitive dissonance.
When asked for his views on the above video, a leader of a small country  answered. &quot;What speech? Who&#039;s Obama? I&#039;m too busy fixing things. Dad!&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A possible example of cognitive dissonance.<br />
When asked for his views on the above video, a leader of a small country  answered. &#8220;What speech? Who&#8217;s Obama? I&#8217;m too busy fixing things. Dad!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: kingfisher</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/i-am-a-patriot/comment-page-1/#comment-15501</link>
		<dc:creator>kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore badly needs an Obama!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore badly needs an Obama!</p>
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