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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear mongering coupled with  threat inflation, hoping to convince SinKaporean that PAP is the only party that is capable of ruling Sinkapore and no other political party could be trusted to do so. This is old stuff and we had grown wise over the years to listen and believe such rubbish. However, we must not underestimate the old fox and must continue to spread the word around until the GE is over. It is better to be sure then take a chance. If the opposition is voted into power, I believed it will the best present for him for his retirement- a excellence sending off present from the people of Sinkapore. It will be a fixing way to send him off into retirement for good otherwise he will continue to believe he is indispensable. Let will give  us a change to see how many of the million dollars minister is empolyable outside the PAP. It will be nice to have a change of political scenery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear mongering coupled with  threat inflation, hoping to convince SinKaporean that PAP is the only party that is capable of ruling Sinkapore and no other political party could be trusted to do so. This is old stuff and we had grown wise over the years to listen and believe such rubbish. However, we must not underestimate the old fox and must continue to spread the word around until the GE is over. It is better to be sure then take a chance. If the opposition is voted into power, I believed it will the best present for him for his retirement- a excellence sending off present from the people of Sinkapore. It will be a fixing way to send him off into retirement for good otherwise he will continue to believe he is indispensable. Let will give  us a change to see how many of the million dollars minister is empolyable outside the PAP. It will be nice to have a change of political scenery.</p>
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		<title>By: Pak.Gila</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pak.Gila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>guote: &quot;4) Komnenos on July 13th, 2008 1.28 pm He is just getting old. When people are old, they tend to ramble on and on&quot;

He was not called &quot;SM&quot; (Senile Minister) for nothing. Poor old man simply does not know how to get a life to really retire and enjoy life like Jiang Zemin . (although it was commonly believed  that he was needed in the arena to protect  the throne of his dear son ). 

He seems to have the mind-set of a Chinese emperor (Chinese emperors own china, just like he owns Singapore therefore  can pass on to his offsprings forever ) -- naming his dear son &quot;dragon&quot; probably a best hint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>guote: &#8220;4) Komnenos on July 13th, 2008 1.28 pm He is just getting old. When people are old, they tend to ramble on and on&#8221;</p>
<p>He was not called &#8220;SM&#8221; (Senile Minister) for nothing. Poor old man simply does not know how to get a life to really retire and enjoy life like Jiang Zemin . (although it was commonly believed  that he was needed in the arena to protect  the throne of his dear son ). </p>
<p>He seems to have the mind-set of a Chinese emperor (Chinese emperors own china, just like he owns Singapore therefore  can pass on to his offsprings forever ) &#8212; naming his dear son &#8220;dragon&#8221; probably a best hint.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 15:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why no western nations come to learn our crappy system? Only Communists state (Vietnam, North Korea and China)  and former communist (Russia) and countries with little or no democracy (Burma, Cambodia and Iran) and monarchy nation like Saudi Arabia, UAE so on.... Come on, MM? Give me a respectable nation with a better than us democracy who are interested to learn from us. Stop comparing gold with copper they are not the same.  why not compare your salary to China &#039;s great leaders they earned peanuts versus your extraordinary pay packets. 

When Law is Lee and Lee is in the LAw, we are all screwed.


FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why no western nations come to learn our crappy system? Only Communists state (Vietnam, North Korea and China)  and former communist (Russia) and countries with little or no democracy (Burma, Cambodia and Iran) and monarchy nation like Saudi Arabia, UAE so on&#8230;. Come on, MM? Give me a respectable nation with a better than us democracy who are interested to learn from us. Stop comparing gold with copper they are not the same.  why not compare your salary to China &#8217;s great leaders they earned peanuts versus your extraordinary pay packets. </p>
<p>When Law is Lee and Lee is in the LAw, we are all screwed.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: xtrakm</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtrakm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;&gt;

T, here&#039;s the whole Desiderata:

Go placidly amid the noise and haste
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly and listen to others,
even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit.
If you compare yourself with others you may become vain or bitter,
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.
Exercise caution in your business affairs,
for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is.
Many persons strive for high ideals
and everywhere life is full of heroism.
Be yourself.
Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love,
for in the face of all aridity and disappointment
it is as perennial as the grass.
Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.
Beyond a wholesome discipline be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars.
You have a right to be here.
And whether it is clear to you or not,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive him to be,
and whatever your labours and aspirations in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace with your soul.
With all its sham and drudgery and broken dreams
it is still a beautiful world.
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

I believe there is a God and the old man will face his Maker eventually.</description>
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<p>T, here&#8217;s the whole Desiderata:</p>
<p>Go placidly amid the noise and haste<br />
and remember what peace there may be in silence.<br />
As far as possible without surrender, be on good terms with all persons.<br />
Speak your truth quietly and clearly and listen to others,<br />
even the dull and ignorant; they too have their story.<br />
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit.<br />
If you compare yourself with others you may become vain or bitter,<br />
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.<br />
Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.<br />
Keep interested in your career, however humble;<br />
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.<br />
Exercise caution in your business affairs,<br />
for the world is full of trickery.<br />
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is.<br />
Many persons strive for high ideals<br />
and everywhere life is full of heroism.<br />
Be yourself.<br />
Especially do not feign affection.<br />
Neither be cynical about love,<br />
for in the face of all aridity and disappointment<br />
it is as perennial as the grass.<br />
Take kindly the counsel of the years,<br />
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.<br />
Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.<br />
But do not distress yourself with imaginings.<br />
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.<br />
Beyond a wholesome discipline be gentle with yourself.<br />
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars.<br />
You have a right to be here.<br />
And whether it is clear to you or not,<br />
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.<br />
Therefore be at peace with God,<br />
whatever you conceive him to be,<br />
and whatever your labours and aspirations in the noisy confusion of life,<br />
keep peace with your soul.<br />
With all its sham and drudgery and broken dreams<br />
it is still a beautiful world.<br />
Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.</p>
<p>I believe there is a God and the old man will face his Maker eventually.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ikanrajah,

Thanks for sharing with us here. 

The more of these that we can highlight here will help to shed the light on the deceptive integrity of the ruling party. Singaporeans will judge for themselves how much faith and support to extend to the distortion party.

Their glorious days are numbered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ikanrajah,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing with us here. </p>
<p>The more of these that we can highlight here will help to shed the light on the deceptive integrity of the ruling party. Singaporeans will judge for themselves how much faith and support to extend to the distortion party.</p>
<p>Their glorious days are numbered.</p>
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		<title>By: ikanrajah</title>
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		<dc:creator>ikanrajah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harrison,

Just to add to the crony tree (albeit a bit passe):

ex-CJ Yong - LKY&#039;s buddy in Cambridge (see frontpage of Alex Josey&#039;s book, he was LKY&#039;s bestman).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harrison,</p>
<p>Just to add to the crony tree (albeit a bit passe):</p>
<p>ex-CJ Yong &#8211; LKY&#8217;s buddy in Cambridge (see frontpage of Alex Josey&#8217;s book, he was LKY&#8217;s bestman).</p>
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		<title>By: seeking salvation</title>
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		<dc:creator>seeking salvation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stop playing the same old tunes What&#039;s it with you
asking us to work till we drop dead what 65 or 70s
That&#039;s good for u because u are enjoying the good life
Wake up old croack and see the reeeeaaaal world
See the aunties and uncle collecting drinks cans and cardboxes to erk out a living
The mcdonald aunties and uncles
LISTEN OLD MAN THERE GOT NOTHING TO LOOOSE
THEY GOT NO LOOOOOSE CHANGE UNLIKE UUUUU
SO STOP PISSING EVERYONE WITH YOUR SAME QUIRKY LINES
WHO CARES IT DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE
IT EVEN BETTER IF U ARE OUT THINGS WILL GET CHEEEAPER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop playing the same old tunes What&#8217;s it with you<br />
asking us to work till we drop dead what 65 or 70s<br />
That&#8217;s good for u because u are enjoying the good life<br />
Wake up old croack and see the reeeeaaaal world<br />
See the aunties and uncle collecting drinks cans and cardboxes to erk out a living<br />
The mcdonald aunties and uncles<br />
LISTEN OLD MAN THERE GOT NOTHING TO LOOOSE<br />
THEY GOT NO LOOOOOSE CHANGE UNLIKE UUUUU<br />
SO STOP PISSING EVERYONE WITH YOUR SAME QUIRKY LINES<br />
WHO CARES IT DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE<br />
IT EVEN BETTER IF U ARE OUT THINGS WILL GET CHEEEAPER</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to LKY, not only the Amercians out to screw us but the Russian and chinese foreigners who are here as well.

&quot;The groups have seen that Russians and Chinese have been coming and studying Singapore&#039;s success story, Lee said. The leaders of these countries ask, &quot;How does this little country with so little talent keep its ruling party in place and run a tight ship, honest, and effective, and make progress?&quot;
They are &quot;picking up points here and there,&quot; Lee said.&quot;
http://yoursdp.org/index.php/component/content/article/1-singapore/643-singapores-lee-kuan-yew-cites-conspiracy-to-do-us-in

If LKY is so afraid of been screwing left and right by AngMoh, by Asian then what&#039;s the hell he unleash the floodgate wide open for foreigners here in Singapore. 

LKY, you are freaking everyone in Singapore. Make up your bloody mind !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to LKY, not only the Amercians out to screw us but the Russian and chinese foreigners who are here as well.</p>
<p>&#8220;The groups have seen that Russians and Chinese have been coming and studying Singapore&#8217;s success story, Lee said. The leaders of these countries ask, &#8220;How does this little country with so little talent keep its ruling party in place and run a tight ship, honest, and effective, and make progress?&#8221;<br />
They are &#8220;picking up points here and there,&#8221; Lee said.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://yoursdp.org/index.php/component/content/article/1-singapore/643-singapores-lee-kuan-yew-cites-conspiracy-to-do-us-in" rel="nofollow">http://yoursdp.org/index.php/component/content/article/1-singapore/643-singapores-lee-kuan-yew-cites-conspiracy-to-do-us-in</a></p>
<p>If LKY is so afraid of been screwing left and right by AngMoh, by Asian then what&#8217;s the hell he unleash the floodgate wide open for foreigners here in Singapore. </p>
<p>LKY, you are freaking everyone in Singapore. Make up your bloody mind !</p>
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		<title>By: Focult</title>
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		<dc:creator>Focult</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 14:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is true ..... Americans are out to do us ..... or anyone that does not stand in line with them ....... but aren&#039;t we allies with them, Mr. Lee???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is true &#8230;.. Americans are out to do us &#8230;.. or anyone that does not stand in line with them &#8230;&#8230;. but aren&#8217;t we allies with them, Mr. Lee???</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I created quite a joke when I told my overseas friends from USA that I have not been voting for a long long time because the place I stay in is always the &quot;walk over constituency&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I created quite a joke when I told my overseas friends from USA that I have not been voting for a long long time because the place I stay in is always the &#8220;walk over constituency&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 08:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/// xtrakm on July 15th, 2008 1.01 pm
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit… (quote from Desiderata) ///

xtrakm, I used to be able to memorize the whole piece.

Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.  As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others...

I shall now keep quiet...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/// xtrakm on July 15th, 2008 1.01 pm<br />
Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit… (quote from Desiderata) ///</p>
<p>xtrakm, I used to be able to memorize the whole piece.</p>
<p>Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.  As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly, and listen to others&#8230;</p>
<p>I shall now keep quiet&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>xtran,
Don&#039;t be bother about the next GE. There is more than 50% chance you wouldn&#039;t get to vote. the old man has  destroyed any resemblance of a true and fair democratic system here.  It is more helpful if we were to wait for him to pass on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xtran,<br />
Don&#8217;t be bother about the next GE. There is more than 50% chance you wouldn&#8217;t get to vote. the old man has  destroyed any resemblance of a true and fair democratic system here.  It is more helpful if we were to wait for him to pass on.</p>
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		<title>By: xtrakm</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtrakm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit... (quote from Desiderata)

There are other more important matters in life than listening to his repeated ramblings. When he speaks, he needs an audience. So, I elect not to be a part of this audience. I suppose when one grows older, one tends to speak louder as our hearing diminish. One can also choose to age gracefully.

I will wait patiently for the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit&#8230; (quote from Desiderata)</p>
<p>There are other more important matters in life than listening to his repeated ramblings. When he speaks, he needs an audience. So, I elect not to be a part of this audience. I suppose when one grows older, one tends to speak louder as our hearing diminish. One can also choose to age gracefully.</p>
<p>I will wait patiently for the next GE.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PAP&#039;s government depends heavily on to guns to hold the fort. When these top guns screwed up (as some did recently), they do not have to pay any penalty. In economics, we call this a moral hazard problem. Big banks are not allowed to fail, they will always be bailed out. Ditto for big ministers.

This is a very dangerous structural problem in Singapore politics today. It is a ticking time bomb. In fact, the recent death of Ong Chit Chung serves as a timely reminder of the danger of the GRC system which the PAP puts in place to prevent by-election should someone passes away. The problem is that they believe that the ministers who helm the GRC team together will live forever. What happens if he/she dies in office? Then you have three to four weak MPs who are not of ministerial calibre.

The coming collapse of Singapore will not be the undoing of any opposition parties (it is doubtful that they can win anything than a handful of seats). It will be the result of the PAP legacy to try to control the electoral process to such a successful extent that it wipes up totally the dynamics the churn up good political leaders. In economics, we call that the adverse selection problem. In the end, only those who are rent-seeking in any ways will want to serve as MPs or ministers.

So, MM Lee, why you go on about complacency, don&#039;t be too complacent yourself. You think you know everything, control everything, but sooner or later, you will the victim of your very successes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PAP&#8217;s government depends heavily on to guns to hold the fort. When these top guns screwed up (as some did recently), they do not have to pay any penalty. In economics, we call this a moral hazard problem. Big banks are not allowed to fail, they will always be bailed out. Ditto for big ministers.</p>
<p>This is a very dangerous structural problem in Singapore politics today. It is a ticking time bomb. In fact, the recent death of Ong Chit Chung serves as a timely reminder of the danger of the GRC system which the PAP puts in place to prevent by-election should someone passes away. The problem is that they believe that the ministers who helm the GRC team together will live forever. What happens if he/she dies in office? Then you have three to four weak MPs who are not of ministerial calibre.</p>
<p>The coming collapse of Singapore will not be the undoing of any opposition parties (it is doubtful that they can win anything than a handful of seats). It will be the result of the PAP legacy to try to control the electoral process to such a successful extent that it wipes up totally the dynamics the churn up good political leaders. In economics, we call that the adverse selection problem. In the end, only those who are rent-seeking in any ways will want to serve as MPs or ministers.</p>
<p>So, MM Lee, why you go on about complacency, don&#8217;t be too complacent yourself. You think you know everything, control everything, but sooner or later, you will the victim of your very successes.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar Choy,
then what holding you back ? How do you know we are not doing our part ? YOu mean you can only do it in silence or join political party ? What make you think election is the answer when I only get to vote once in late 1980s in lifetime ? Yes, we wake up but did you ? Why do people feel election is the answer ?  I already given up on the election, for one, I no longer get to vote. Secondly, the government continue to buy supporter&#039;s vote promising upgrading to those who vote for them using taxmoney but yet conservative opp party seems helpless against it. Majority of opp party play and live by the rule and end up moving on helplessly ?  But still each day is a hope for opp party because the old man&#039;s days are numbered.

So if you have minimal action then at least make your voice known.  So why are you even here since you think here is all talk, whinning and commenting ? So what if it is the common people here replying ? Do you have a problem with that ?

&quot;you are not intelligent and creative enough to talk of something new and have strong agendas to embark, brave and emerge to stand up and tall and say “I will stand for the general election come next 2 years and urge all readers to vote for me”. &quot;
Maybe you want to be more specific ? Who ? How about you ? I vote for you if t I ever get to vote, but make sure you stand for election first since you are so confident. NOw tell us what you have done so that we can learn from you and so deserve a vote.

Please tell others to know their capability and objective  before thinking  of standing for election. Don&#039;t be a fool to standup for election just for the sake of election. I have to admit I don&#039;t have that goal to stand up for election and I don&#039;t think I want to since I having my own life goal. I rather be follower and work behind the scene telling the people what happened. That&#039;s me and it&#039;s my choice and so is some of the people&#039;s choice here. Is standing up for election the only way to show support ?

The government leeway of manipulating of law, system and election might first broken  if just just election are  to be successful.

Whinning is better than to have a dead forum that make one think that Singaporean is apathetic. Make your anger known here rather than just suffer in silence if one  is playing limited role. Other will feel your anger and feel it themselves. Emotion will fuel your anguish.  If you are  apathetic in even participating in forum thinking that all here is talk then  nothing will work, and that is where one really have to &#039;go home and sleep !&#039; Every voice here count and even yours too.

And you don&#039;t need to be a politician to talk politics so one doesn&#039;t need to stand up for election to show support. If he has the commitment and goal to stand up for election, by all means, go for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oscar Choy,<br />
then what holding you back ? How do you know we are not doing our part ? YOu mean you can only do it in silence or join political party ? What make you think election is the answer when I only get to vote once in late 1980s in lifetime ? Yes, we wake up but did you ? Why do people feel election is the answer ?  I already given up on the election, for one, I no longer get to vote. Secondly, the government continue to buy supporter&#8217;s vote promising upgrading to those who vote for them using taxmoney but yet conservative opp party seems helpless against it. Majority of opp party play and live by the rule and end up moving on helplessly ?  But still each day is a hope for opp party because the old man&#8217;s days are numbered.</p>
<p>So if you have minimal action then at least make your voice known.  So why are you even here since you think here is all talk, whinning and commenting ? So what if it is the common people here replying ? Do you have a problem with that ?</p>
<p>&#8220;you are not intelligent and creative enough to talk of something new and have strong agendas to embark, brave and emerge to stand up and tall and say “I will stand for the general election come next 2 years and urge all readers to vote for me”. &#8221;<br />
Maybe you want to be more specific ? Who ? How about you ? I vote for you if t I ever get to vote, but make sure you stand for election first since you are so confident. NOw tell us what you have done so that we can learn from you and so deserve a vote.</p>
<p>Please tell others to know their capability and objective  before thinking  of standing for election. Don&#8217;t be a fool to standup for election just for the sake of election. I have to admit I don&#8217;t have that goal to stand up for election and I don&#8217;t think I want to since I having my own life goal. I rather be follower and work behind the scene telling the people what happened. That&#8217;s me and it&#8217;s my choice and so is some of the people&#8217;s choice here. Is standing up for election the only way to show support ?</p>
<p>The government leeway of manipulating of law, system and election might first broken  if just just election are  to be successful.</p>
<p>Whinning is better than to have a dead forum that make one think that Singaporean is apathetic. Make your anger known here rather than just suffer in silence if one  is playing limited role. Other will feel your anger and feel it themselves. Emotion will fuel your anguish.  If you are  apathetic in even participating in forum thinking that all here is talk then  nothing will work, and that is where one really have to &#8216;go home and sleep !&#8217; Every voice here count and even yours too.</p>
<p>And you don&#8217;t need to be a politician to talk politics so one doesn&#8217;t need to stand up for election to show support. If he has the commitment and goal to stand up for election, by all means, go for it.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those who are capable and fed up with the state of affairs here should not migrate. After all this is our country. It is the leaders whom we are fed up with who should be kicked out as far away as possible. This old man has run out his sell by date long time ago. Doesn&#039;t he really care he doesn&#039;t command respect anymore? Or is he too intoxidated by feedbacks from running dogs ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think those who are capable and fed up with the state of affairs here should not migrate. After all this is our country. It is the leaders whom we are fed up with who should be kicked out as far away as possible. This old man has run out his sell by date long time ago. Doesn&#8217;t he really care he doesn&#8217;t command respect anymore? Or is he too intoxidated by feedbacks from running dogs ?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freaking oldman,
Stop oppressing the people with FUD. It is Singapore&#039;s misfortunate to have you as father of Singapore. More like a step father than a real father. More like a mafia than a mummy. To think that people still think that you are a great leader of Singapore ? YOu behaving more like a expensive trash ! You haven&#039;t changed a bit all since 1960s. Living in fear and insecurity with paranoid, you make yourself shamelessly rich at expense of citizien. You defy the law of nature with conflict of interest. You live in denial and deceit using the excuse of nation building. Now we know why the world hold you in esteem because you make use of MSM to glorify yourself and your coffers even though in reality, only a few deserved to be called capable and respectable, all the old guards that build Singapore deserve respect but not you, stupid old fool that refused to step down. You made use of MSM to highlight the issues and plight of other countries which is none of our farting business so to make yourself and your coffers look damn good ? Solve your own backyard and stop boardcasting so much other countries&#039; problems. You make legal corruption and nepotism a culture of Singapore in the government. You make yourself look like a emperor but one without clothes and substances. You live in fear thinking that Gurkha can protect you but not Singaporean. What is there to fear if you do nothing wrong. Don&#039;t overestimate yourself thinking you are immoral. YOu and your coffers orchestrate everything and then blame the people when things goes wrong. You corporate whatever that can make money to create  Lee dynasty. You disgrace Singapore by thinking that the same old tactic that can be for subservient Singaporean can be used in other world.

Overall, You are one pathetic dictator with no sense of proportion.
Get real, old man, before Singapore sink into abyss of no return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Freaking oldman,<br />
Stop oppressing the people with FUD. It is Singapore&#8217;s misfortunate to have you as father of Singapore. More like a step father than a real father. More like a mafia than a mummy. To think that people still think that you are a great leader of Singapore ? YOu behaving more like a expensive trash ! You haven&#8217;t changed a bit all since 1960s. Living in fear and insecurity with paranoid, you make yourself shamelessly rich at expense of citizien. You defy the law of nature with conflict of interest. You live in denial and deceit using the excuse of nation building. Now we know why the world hold you in esteem because you make use of MSM to glorify yourself and your coffers even though in reality, only a few deserved to be called capable and respectable, all the old guards that build Singapore deserve respect but not you, stupid old fool that refused to step down. You made use of MSM to highlight the issues and plight of other countries which is none of our farting business so to make yourself and your coffers look damn good ? Solve your own backyard and stop boardcasting so much other countries&#8217; problems. You make legal corruption and nepotism a culture of Singapore in the government. You make yourself look like a emperor but one without clothes and substances. You live in fear thinking that Gurkha can protect you but not Singaporean. What is there to fear if you do nothing wrong. Don&#8217;t overestimate yourself thinking you are immoral. YOu and your coffers orchestrate everything and then blame the people when things goes wrong. You corporate whatever that can make money to create  Lee dynasty. You disgrace Singapore by thinking that the same old tactic that can be for subservient Singaporean can be used in other world.</p>
<p>Overall, You are one pathetic dictator with no sense of proportion.<br />
Get real, old man, before Singapore sink into abyss of no return.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, LKY. We Singaporeans strongly believe that the greatest threat comes from you. Here&#039;s the sobering fact.

President - LKY&#039;s buddy
MM (Minister of ministers) - LKY
GIC - LKY
Temasek - LKY&#039;s daughter-in-law
PM - LKY&#039;s son
DPM - LKY&#039;s brother-in-law

The possiblity of this combination occuring is as good as the number of chances of striking TOTO.  

Any doubts that &quot;there is an internal conspiracy to do us in!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, LKY. We Singaporeans strongly believe that the greatest threat comes from you. Here&#8217;s the sobering fact.</p>
<p>President &#8211; LKY&#8217;s buddy<br />
MM (Minister of ministers) &#8211; LKY<br />
GIC &#8211; LKY<br />
Temasek &#8211; LKY&#8217;s daughter-in-law<br />
PM &#8211; LKY&#8217;s son<br />
DPM &#8211; LKY&#8217;s brother-in-law</p>
<p>The possiblity of this combination occuring is as good as the number of chances of striking TOTO.  </p>
<p>Any doubts that &#8220;there is an internal conspiracy to do us in!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Conjob</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/is-mm-lee-playing-the-same-old-record/comment-page-1/#comment-14979</link>
		<dc:creator>Conjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 07:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

LKY will be a despot to the end, he is incorrigible. He has to be in the cabinet, otherwise who will pull the strings for the show to go on?  
Remember Indonesian &quot; wayang kulit &quot; ?
The master behind the scene selects the puppets for the show and also decides the direction of the story. The spectators are not suppose to interfere but try to appreciate the show.

Remember the golden rule : &quot;he who has the gold makes the rules.&quot;
Who controls GIC and Temasek ?

I concur that he has been instilling fear on the people from the 60s to 2000s. He is a serial fear mongerer and I will not count him out too soon. Afterall he promised to rise from his grave and haunt us. And his time is not up yet because Goh C T said a man like LKY comes once in a hundred years.

Frankly, we don&#039;t need another LKY for a zillion years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>LKY will be a despot to the end, he is incorrigible. He has to be in the cabinet, otherwise who will pull the strings for the show to go on?<br />
Remember Indonesian &#8221; wayang kulit &#8221; ?<br />
The master behind the scene selects the puppets for the show and also decides the direction of the story. The spectators are not suppose to interfere but try to appreciate the show.</p>
<p>Remember the golden rule : &#8220;he who has the gold makes the rules.&#8221;<br />
Who controls GIC and Temasek ?</p>
<p>I concur that he has been instilling fear on the people from the 60s to 2000s. He is a serial fear mongerer and I will not count him out too soon. Afterall he promised to rise from his grave and haunt us. And his time is not up yet because Goh C T said a man like LKY comes once in a hundred years.</p>
<p>Frankly, we don&#8217;t need another LKY for a zillion years.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/is-mm-lee-playing-the-same-old-record/comment-page-1/#comment-14973</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we just dismiss LKY&#039;s words, then we&#039;re missing the bigger picture. LKY only speaks at certain crucial moments. This latest spate of controversial comments is not surprising, actually. I had half-expected him to do so - given the recent rounds of screw-ups by his ministers.

Some call it a diversionary tactic which LKY uses from time to time - the most blatant of which was during GE 2006 where he alone, basically, usurped the entire election to attack James Gomez - and the media went along with him on it.

Also, his remarks are targeted at instilling fear in S&#039;poreans to make them frighten of even thinking of an alternative to the PAP. It&#039;s LKY all over again - 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s.

For me, I am of the view that LKY does not have to be a cabinet member. He is a painful reminder of the hypocrisy of the PAP govt which is always boasting of &#039;renewing&#039; itself.

Here we have someone who&#039;s 85 years old, and is still Minister Mentor (one wonders why our world class ministers need a mentor, anyway), and is in charge of a huge amount of funds in the GIC.

If the govt requires his advice, they can always approach him - even if he&#039;s not in the cabinet. What would stop the govt from doing so? Nothing.

So, why is LKY still in cabinet?

Frankly, he should think about stepping down.

His fear-mongering koyote doesn&#039;t sell very well nowadays.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we just dismiss LKY&#8217;s words, then we&#8217;re missing the bigger picture. LKY only speaks at certain crucial moments. This latest spate of controversial comments is not surprising, actually. I had half-expected him to do so &#8211; given the recent rounds of screw-ups by his ministers.</p>
<p>Some call it a diversionary tactic which LKY uses from time to time &#8211; the most blatant of which was during GE 2006 where he alone, basically, usurped the entire election to attack James Gomez &#8211; and the media went along with him on it.</p>
<p>Also, his remarks are targeted at instilling fear in S&#8217;poreans to make them frighten of even thinking of an alternative to the PAP. It&#8217;s LKY all over again &#8211; 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s.</p>
<p>For me, I am of the view that LKY does not have to be a cabinet member. He is a painful reminder of the hypocrisy of the PAP govt which is always boasting of &#8216;renewing&#8217; itself.</p>
<p>Here we have someone who&#8217;s 85 years old, and is still Minister Mentor (one wonders why our world class ministers need a mentor, anyway), and is in charge of a huge amount of funds in the GIC.</p>
<p>If the govt requires his advice, they can always approach him &#8211; even if he&#8217;s not in the cabinet. What would stop the govt from doing so? Nothing.</p>
<p>So, why is LKY still in cabinet?</p>
<p>Frankly, he should think about stepping down.</p>
<p>His fear-mongering koyote doesn&#8217;t sell very well nowadays.</p>
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