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		<title>By: laucheow</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-24141</link>
		<dc:creator>laucheow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no financial expert OK, but I just checked Yahoo Finance and after today&#039;s terrible bloodbath in the stock market, MER has dropped to $18. The market cap is now $27.57B, so if Temasek owns 10% of Merrill Lynch - does that mean that its stake is now worth $2.757B? So let&#039;s see, if Temasek sank $5.3B into Merrill, some of that money has gone missing.

All this is supposed to reflect Bank of America&#039;s own problems - remember that BAC made an offer for MER at $29, but it was supposed to be an all-stock deal. Whatever. MER&#039;s stock price seems to reflect a much lower value for the company now. And who the heck knows anything anymore - what if the deal doesn&#039;t go ahead and Merrill Lynch collapses like Lehman?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no financial expert OK, but I just checked Yahoo Finance and after today&#8217;s terrible bloodbath in the stock market, MER has dropped to $18. The market cap is now $27.57B, so if Temasek owns 10% of Merrill Lynch &#8211; does that mean that its stake is now worth $2.757B? So let&#8217;s see, if Temasek sank $5.3B into Merrill, some of that money has gone missing.</p>
<p>All this is supposed to reflect Bank of America&#8217;s own problems &#8211; remember that BAC made an offer for MER at $29, but it was supposed to be an all-stock deal. Whatever. MER&#8217;s stock price seems to reflect a much lower value for the company now. And who the heck knows anything anymore &#8211; what if the deal doesn&#8217;t go ahead and Merrill Lynch collapses like Lehman?</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-21904</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1999, Singapore&#039;s first elected President, Ong Teng Cheong, asked the Ministry of Finance what the state of our national treasury was. He never got an answer and died shortly after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1999, Singapore&#8217;s first elected President, Ong Teng Cheong, asked the Ministry of Finance what the state of our national treasury was. He never got an answer and died shortly after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16511</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More banks to close? I think yes.&quot;
Worry not. The whole Singapore is a bank.  Just milk the citizen here and there and billions will appear for another investment of 30 years. Will Singapore be the next Atlantis ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More banks to close? I think yes.&#8221;<br />
Worry not. The whole Singapore is a bank.  Just milk the citizen here and there and billions will appear for another investment of 30 years. Will Singapore be the next Atlantis ?</p>
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		<title>By: hongjun</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16509</link>
		<dc:creator>hongjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Number 8th bank in U.S., &#039;First Priority Bank, Bradenton, FL&#039;, closed on Aug 1.
More banks to close? I think yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Number 8th bank in U.S., &#8216;First Priority Bank, Bradenton, FL&#8217;, closed on Aug 1.<br />
More banks to close? I think yes.</p>
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		<title>By: ahsayman</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16507</link>
		<dc:creator>ahsayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry pal, it&#039;s $900 million plus $4.4 billion.</description>
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		<title>By: Oasis</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16504</link>
		<dc:creator>Oasis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 14:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$900 million.......Just think about it.  With that amount of money, we could have discovered an alternative energy source, gone to the moon, discovered a cure for cancer.....Instead of which, we buy a stake in a failing investment bank....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$900 million&#8230;&#8230;.Just think about it.  With that amount of money, we could have discovered an alternative energy source, gone to the moon, discovered a cure for cancer&#8230;..Instead of which, we buy a stake in a failing investment bank&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 30</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16472</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 30</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 03:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] in the Lion City: Another quarter; another loss - e pur si muove: Some good Temasek news - TOC: Merrill Lynch - EastStop: Temasek has learnt its lesson well - This lush garden within: Temasek &amp; GIC suffers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] in the Lion City: Another quarter; another loss &#8211; e pur si muove: Some good Temasek news &#8211; TOC: Merrill Lynch &#8211; EastStop: Temasek has learnt its lesson well &#8211; This lush garden within: Temasek &amp; GIC suffers [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WHY_COMPLAING?</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16294</link>
		<dc:creator>WHY_COMPLAING?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>COMPLAING COMPLAING, WHY YOU ALL SO LIKE DAT WAN siah?

IS THERE A NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY for &#039;THE&#039; funds?

WHY ?   GIVE ME 2 GOOD REASONS AT LEAST.

SINCE Decades ago that it was created, does the PEOPLE know about the investment performance of &#039;THE&#039; funds?

How many Elections has passed since then?

Have the PEOPLE spoken?
Had the PEOPLE spoken?

By this, I can say that the MAJORITY do not demand TRANSPARENCY of &#039;THE&#039; funds, how they use money, which I am not sure come from who or where.

Is this kind of citizen the ideal for other country leaders? I have no idea.

So, all I have to say is ,  WHY COMPRAING now when all was said and done?

So damm UNIQUE until unique cannot anymore...

SAD.  From now till forever more.  Self preser....ation.  Ya, really &#039;1st wer&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COMPLAING COMPLAING, WHY YOU ALL SO LIKE DAT WAN siah?</p>
<p>IS THERE A NEED FOR TRANSPARENCY for &#8216;THE&#8217; funds?</p>
<p>WHY ?   GIVE ME 2 GOOD REASONS AT LEAST.</p>
<p>SINCE Decades ago that it was created, does the PEOPLE know about the investment performance of &#8216;THE&#8217; funds?</p>
<p>How many Elections has passed since then?</p>
<p>Have the PEOPLE spoken?<br />
Had the PEOPLE spoken?</p>
<p>By this, I can say that the MAJORITY do not demand TRANSPARENCY of &#8216;THE&#8217; funds, how they use money, which I am not sure come from who or where.</p>
<p>Is this kind of citizen the ideal for other country leaders? I have no idea.</p>
<p>So, all I have to say is ,  WHY COMPRAING now when all was said and done?</p>
<p>So damm UNIQUE until unique cannot anymore&#8230;</p>
<p>SAD.  From now till forever more.  Self preser&#8230;.ation.  Ya, really &#8216;1st wer&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16262</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aygee,
suggest you read The Singapore Miracle to uncover the real truth behind the public information that claimed to be released by GIC, Temasek. Information that are claimed to be public are just for wayang and when the someone requested the public information on GIC, and Temasek, it is next impossible to get. 

The Singapore Miracle is a must-read book and wake-up call to those gullible, naive who still believe in Fallacy of Singapore. I don&#039;t have problem with government until these few years when the JOker Lee takes over, the ministers are spawning rubblish that hard for layman to digest and find ways to dig money from citizen. Blunder after blunder, and still Singapore remains the same way it runs. Read the book and you will find that whatever Singapore&#039;s issue in the past, present and in the future are discussed. These gahmen are making this just too obvious to be ignored.

It is quite sad when I speak to many Singaporeans, singaporeans can only save this is the way the world and government are. If that is the case, it is a great sin to bring the baby into this world to suffer in this pragmatic world that we choose to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aygee,<br />
suggest you read The Singapore Miracle to uncover the real truth behind the public information that claimed to be released by GIC, Temasek. Information that are claimed to be public are just for wayang and when the someone requested the public information on GIC, and Temasek, it is next impossible to get. </p>
<p>The Singapore Miracle is a must-read book and wake-up call to those gullible, naive who still believe in Fallacy of Singapore. I don&#8217;t have problem with government until these few years when the JOker Lee takes over, the ministers are spawning rubblish that hard for layman to digest and find ways to dig money from citizen. Blunder after blunder, and still Singapore remains the same way it runs. Read the book and you will find that whatever Singapore&#8217;s issue in the past, present and in the future are discussed. These gahmen are making this just too obvious to be ignored.</p>
<p>It is quite sad when I speak to many Singaporeans, singaporeans can only save this is the way the world and government are. If that is the case, it is a great sin to bring the baby into this world to suffer in this pragmatic world that we choose to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16260</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aygee,
the oldman is obviously influencing decision of Temasek, GIC and the government. Look the same oldman talk about investment of his instrument and talk political scene in Singapore, and do we not know  old man still in control overall. You bet. How can a government run properly when money collected channel to Temask and GIC with oldman behind everything and pretending not ? The oldman is obviously the mastermind. So when one speak of government, can one forget about GIC and temasek ? You forget the head of all these ?

Did you notice not when investing in communicating oversea using Temask, GIC, the oldman is the one doing the talking behind deal make not his inept son and his wife ? And this involve political issue not just a matter of commercial interest. One reason is that other countries stamp on us is because it is both a commerical and political been a government, now you see the point of why all these are linked together.

A government so afraid of LKY than they even can do President Ong when the latter ask for explanation on accounting and audit ? What is this ? Do we still want to live in a make-believe world after so much loss ? How much loss before action is taken ? How much of loss is enough ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aygee,<br />
the oldman is obviously influencing decision of Temasek, GIC and the government. Look the same oldman talk about investment of his instrument and talk political scene in Singapore, and do we not know  old man still in control overall. You bet. How can a government run properly when money collected channel to Temask and GIC with oldman behind everything and pretending not ? The oldman is obviously the mastermind. So when one speak of government, can one forget about GIC and temasek ? You forget the head of all these ?</p>
<p>Did you notice not when investing in communicating oversea using Temask, GIC, the oldman is the one doing the talking behind deal make not his inept son and his wife ? And this involve political issue not just a matter of commercial interest. One reason is that other countries stamp on us is because it is both a commerical and political been a government, now you see the point of why all these are linked together.</p>
<p>A government so afraid of LKY than they even can do President Ong when the latter ask for explanation on accounting and audit ? What is this ? Do we still want to live in a make-believe world after so much loss ? How much loss before action is taken ? How much of loss is enough ?</p>
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		<title>By: patriot</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16257</link>
		<dc:creator>patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Folks;

me comes in for  a peek into TOC  and can&#039;t resist to put some words here.

Supposing someone or some  people &#039;are made&#039;  to be answerable and accountable for all these investments in the Frailing Banks now; what kind of responsibilities do we expect from them?

If I am Lee Kuan Yew or even Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister, I will shoulder every responsibility given that the Citizens are told to wait for thirty years for results, positive or otherwise.  Meanwhile, the Top People in Temasek and GIC are collecting their fat pays and remunerations without fails.  In thirty years? Give the Two Lees the best Foods and the Best Cares and even the rumoured blood changes anytime they want. At thirty years later, the Surviving Citizens can only go to their tombs to ask for accountabilities. Punish Lee Hsien Loong if thing goes wrong thirty years from now if he is still alive then? So What? Put a near 90 year old man in jail? See the Picture?

Almost everyone is right in everything said here and Dr Syed Alwi made a most relevant and useful call persistently for the Leadership to use a portion of the money to help the people who are facing problems in their livings. Here I must say I am very impressed with Dr Syd Alwi for his practicality and wisdom.

By now, Singaporeans should be awared of the Schemes of Events in our society, there are many relevant calls for responsibilities in this and that. HOWEVER, we are also painfully awared that the Schemers are able to come up with plenty of excuses and thereby evade all accountabilities &#039;beautifully&#039; and naturally. We complain, we whine, we grumble only to hurt ourselves at the end of it all, maybe by doing so, our frustrations are relieved despite the helplessness. I sincerely believe, all of us hope that our Leaders will recover/discover their consciences and see the importance of helping their citizens as priority.

A period of thirty years is too long for me personally, I fear it maybe too long for many others and even our country. If fate comes as planned, even begged, all of us need not worry. BUT, if I understand fate correctly, it is beyond human manipulations, let just hope that we have SENSIBLE LEADERS.

patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Folks;</p>
<p>me comes in for  a peek into TOC  and can&#8217;t resist to put some words here.</p>
<p>Supposing someone or some  people &#8216;are made&#8217;  to be answerable and accountable for all these investments in the Frailing Banks now; what kind of responsibilities do we expect from them?</p>
<p>If I am Lee Kuan Yew or even Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister, I will shoulder every responsibility given that the Citizens are told to wait for thirty years for results, positive or otherwise.  Meanwhile, the Top People in Temasek and GIC are collecting their fat pays and remunerations without fails.  In thirty years? Give the Two Lees the best Foods and the Best Cares and even the rumoured blood changes anytime they want. At thirty years later, the Surviving Citizens can only go to their tombs to ask for accountabilities. Punish Lee Hsien Loong if thing goes wrong thirty years from now if he is still alive then? So What? Put a near 90 year old man in jail? See the Picture?</p>
<p>Almost everyone is right in everything said here and Dr Syed Alwi made a most relevant and useful call persistently for the Leadership to use a portion of the money to help the people who are facing problems in their livings. Here I must say I am very impressed with Dr Syd Alwi for his practicality and wisdom.</p>
<p>By now, Singaporeans should be awared of the Schemes of Events in our society, there are many relevant calls for responsibilities in this and that. HOWEVER, we are also painfully awared that the Schemers are able to come up with plenty of excuses and thereby evade all accountabilities &#8216;beautifully&#8217; and naturally. We complain, we whine, we grumble only to hurt ourselves at the end of it all, maybe by doing so, our frustrations are relieved despite the helplessness. I sincerely believe, all of us hope that our Leaders will recover/discover their consciences and see the importance of helping their citizens as priority.</p>
<p>A period of thirty years is too long for me personally, I fear it maybe too long for many others and even our country. If fate comes as planned, even begged, all of us need not worry. BUT, if I understand fate correctly, it is beyond human manipulations, let just hope that we have SENSIBLE LEADERS.</p>
<p>patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: Eaststopper</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16256</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaststopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

The latest cash call by ML is not exactly a bad thing. It is actually a sweet deal for Temasek if we look closely at the terms of the deal. The new deal essentially wipes out the paper losses suffered since Temasek&#039;s first investment. Do read this article by WSJ. 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>The latest cash call by ML is not exactly a bad thing. It is actually a sweet deal for Temasek if we look closely at the terms of the deal. The new deal essentially wipes out the paper losses suffered since Temasek&#8217;s first investment. Do read this article by WSJ.<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr malaba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr malaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t wait for ML to go bankrupt soon and see tumasek bit the dust. let see how singaporean can still &#039;bo chup&#039; about it and believe for more good years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t wait for ML to go bankrupt soon and see tumasek bit the dust. let see how singaporean can still &#8216;bo chup&#8217; about it and believe for more good years.</p>
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		<title>By: Fever Guy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16254</link>
		<dc:creator>Fever Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aygee,

Do you play US stocks? Why not open an account with interactivebrokers and buy let&#039;s say 10 lots of your savings on ML and say keep it for just 10 years. Let&#039;s not pursue the 30 years time frame which the oldman promised but cant live to see the returns. You have so much faith and and good intention of Temaesk why not do the walk? Join them and buy some ML&#039;s stock now trading at USD$25, lelong price you know. Sure it is a good time to buy rite? You have so much faith in our less than transparent government and poor management of funds and no actual information on the returns...how the heck you can say things so simply. I am no sheep and cant be brainwash by pap anymore. One last thing, GIC and Temasek &#039;s investment returns how big the portion is derive from tax payer&#039;s contributions and land sales and other taxes and even CPF as compared to actual profit returns from good investments. Do you care to share? A good company worth investing is one that is transparent enough. Like Berkshire Holdings from Warren Buffet and which GIC and Temasek can drool forever to become one.

I can only pray that HOJINX don make more costly mistakes. Bear in mind these are Singapore &#039;s People&#039;s hard earned money not some PEANUTS mentioned by the woody &#039;s wife.

FG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aygee,</p>
<p>Do you play US stocks? Why not open an account with interactivebrokers and buy let&#8217;s say 10 lots of your savings on ML and say keep it for just 10 years. Let&#8217;s not pursue the 30 years time frame which the oldman promised but cant live to see the returns. You have so much faith and and good intention of Temaesk why not do the walk? Join them and buy some ML&#8217;s stock now trading at USD$25, lelong price you know. Sure it is a good time to buy rite? You have so much faith in our less than transparent government and poor management of funds and no actual information on the returns&#8230;how the heck you can say things so simply. I am no sheep and cant be brainwash by pap anymore. One last thing, GIC and Temasek &#8217;s investment returns how big the portion is derive from tax payer&#8217;s contributions and land sales and other taxes and even CPF as compared to actual profit returns from good investments. Do you care to share? A good company worth investing is one that is transparent enough. Like Berkshire Holdings from Warren Buffet and which GIC and Temasek can drool forever to become one.</p>
<p>I can only pray that HOJINX don make more costly mistakes. Bear in mind these are Singapore &#8217;s People&#8217;s hard earned money not some PEANUTS mentioned by the woody &#8217;s wife.</p>
<p>FG</p>
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		<title>By: SAD</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16253</link>
		<dc:creator>SAD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like nobody up there is prepared to listen to the netizens&#039; concern. The spending goes on. How I wished that more be done for the poor and aging poor first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like nobody up there is prepared to listen to the netizens&#8217; concern. The spending goes on. How I wished that more be done for the poor and aging poor first.</p>
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		<title>By: Eaststopper</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16252</link>
		<dc:creator>Eaststopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only the critics understood the terms of the deal better. The latest Merrill Lynch cash call was actually a sweet deal for Temasek. I believed Temask had learnt its lesson well with Barclays.
Do read this article: 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only the critics understood the terms of the deal better. The latest Merrill Lynch cash call was actually a sweet deal for Temasek. I believed Temask had learnt its lesson well with Barclays.<br />
Do read this article:<br />
<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121735266454993851.html?mod=googlenews_wsj</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hedging is very good.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hedging is very good.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;47) aygee on July 30th, 2008 2.47 pm 
The investment was also hedged against any devaluation of Singapore’s shares, if ML went out to look for more money.&quot;

Effective hedge ? If the net worth of a company drops, then the real worth (value) of the shares (or per share) will correspondingly drop. What kind of hedge is this if you need whatever further money that some other people may be willing to offer if it is required to save your company. 

Anyone here to enlighten me ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;47) aygee on July 30th, 2008 2.47 pm<br />
The investment was also hedged against any devaluation of Singapore’s shares, if ML went out to look for more money.&#8221;</p>
<p>Effective hedge ? If the net worth of a company drops, then the real worth (value) of the shares (or per share) will correspondingly drop. What kind of hedge is this if you need whatever further money that some other people may be willing to offer if it is required to save your company. </p>
<p>Anyone here to enlighten me ?</p>
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		<title>By: Plenty of good fatifh and intentions is needed</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/merrill-lynch/comment-page-2/#comment-16241</link>
		<dc:creator>Plenty of good fatifh and intentions is needed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>36) aygee on July 30th, 2008 10.53 am 
&quot;How many of us truly know what ML business is like throughout the world?&quot;

So ? So ? Big deal. Well, I thought the big boys of high finance and ML knew their business very well in the first place. So why are they getting into this sh*t with MASSIVE write down and some needing bail-outs in the billions.

Just because you are someone who knows much about finance (in theory at least or even in practice) does not mean that you will know for sure the exact timing how the financial table will turn in reality. No one and absolutely no one knows for sure the timing of their recovery, if they ever recover - not even the Feb chairman or any finance minister in the world.  

If it is also your own money which is at risk, then I will certainly salute you together with your explanation on good faith and good intentions which are really empty otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>36) aygee on July 30th, 2008 10.53 am<br />
&#8220;How many of us truly know what ML business is like throughout the world?&#8221;</p>
<p>So ? So ? Big deal. Well, I thought the big boys of high finance and ML knew their business very well in the first place. So why are they getting into this sh*t with MASSIVE write down and some needing bail-outs in the billions.</p>
<p>Just because you are someone who knows much about finance (in theory at least or even in practice) does not mean that you will know for sure the exact timing how the financial table will turn in reality. No one and absolutely no one knows for sure the timing of their recovery, if they ever recover &#8211; not even the Feb chairman or any finance minister in the world.  </p>
<p>If it is also your own money which is at risk, then I will certainly salute you together with your explanation on good faith and good intentions which are really empty otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer (SG-HK)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Observer (SG-HK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 09:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50) Harry on July 30th, 2008 4.33 pm 

&quot;As they pegged their salary to the private sector, it is only fair that they should also be held accountable to the standard of the private sector if not more.&quot;

In our dreams may be. Don&#039;t bet on it! The writings are on the wall. Once too many the equation is made, even dumb fools, dim bulbs, bimbo can figure out it&#039;s just a lame excuse. I think you would agree 100%, if a person tell you that I can only be patroitic and serve my country (they need to take oath in public office right? Remember we have to do our little citizen pledge everyday in school?), but I can only do that if you pay me well enough. Then this person character should be put under a microscope. But have they so far? The answer is crystal clear right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50) Harry on July 30th, 2008 4.33 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;As they pegged their salary to the private sector, it is only fair that they should also be held accountable to the standard of the private sector if not more.&#8221;</p>
<p>In our dreams may be. Don&#8217;t bet on it! The writings are on the wall. Once too many the equation is made, even dumb fools, dim bulbs, bimbo can figure out it&#8217;s just a lame excuse. I think you would agree 100%, if a person tell you that I can only be patroitic and serve my country (they need to take oath in public office right? Remember we have to do our little citizen pledge everyday in school?), but I can only do that if you pay me well enough. Then this person character should be put under a microscope. But have they so far? The answer is crystal clear right?</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 08:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the private sector, any investment officer who made this type of disastrous investment decisions would have been replaced. If it is a hedge fund, there will be massive withdrawal which will result in the closure of the fund. Now some Singaporeans may claim that managing the reserve is different from managing a private fund. This may be true to some extent as a country has the resouces to rideout the short tern loses. However the onus on the people managing a country&#039;
s reserve is even greater in that these are the citizens money and so it is all the more crucial that decisions are more careful and conservative. Is this the case in Singapore ? NO. They plunge into the black hole of Western banking when the warning signs are all over the places not to do so. Further the pap government claimed that they are the world best in defence of their world highest salary for political office. As they pegged their salary to the private sector, it is only fair that they should also be held accountable to the standard of the private sector if not more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the private sector, any investment officer who made this type of disastrous investment decisions would have been replaced. If it is a hedge fund, there will be massive withdrawal which will result in the closure of the fund. Now some Singaporeans may claim that managing the reserve is different from managing a private fund. This may be true to some extent as a country has the resouces to rideout the short tern loses. However the onus on the people managing a country&#8217;<br />
s reserve is even greater in that these are the citizens money and so it is all the more crucial that decisions are more careful and conservative. Is this the case in Singapore ? NO. They plunge into the black hole of Western banking when the warning signs are all over the places not to do so. Further the pap government claimed that they are the world best in defence of their world highest salary for political office. As they pegged their salary to the private sector, it is only fair that they should also be held accountable to the standard of the private sector if not more.</p>
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