this will in effect, be the written principled discussion of TOP and shall be a future reference for material for new subjects offered in schools about e-communication or in aid of legislation as may be permitted by law.

George

However, the way this whole deregulation exercise was handled. IMHO it was not done fairly to them. They were shut up in one corner, marginalized, sidelined and even treated like dirt.

These people are not so different from these people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2agLCjMY7og

I have met them before in the virtual. As I said, if you defeat them fair and square they may not be happy, but they will still respect you enough to do business with you. The problem is if you dont even treat them with respect. Then how?

What does it mean if any of them comes over to write for TOC?

It will never ever happen, not in even 11 million life times, hell will have to freeze over first. Pls dont delete me, I just felt I had to clear the air once and for all. As I said, I know this people very well and there is nothing worst than a group of people here talking about things that will never ever happen.

TOC has definitely grown well under your guidance and stewardship. I have no doubt it will be a leading must read site in Singapore some time in the near future. However, read through the other comments in this thread and cannot help but agree with what has been expressed by some concerning the sad fate of the brotherhood press. They used to control nearly 99% of the brainy audience. Now I think not even 1%. My personal feel as a administrator who has worked for nearly 30 years in the public sector is more can be accomplished to reach out to those people in the Brotherhood.

My mother told me a story once, one arrow can be snapped like a twig, but a bunch of arrows cannot.

Unity is always better than division. When one is divided no one wins except those who want to see divisions, that is why they call it divide and rule. I cannot help feeling the may even be a great asset to all us with their insightful and probing write ups.

Just a starry eyed look into the future. Good luck and keep up the good work!

I’ve been on AsiaOne Forum for the last two months and found the level of participation rather boring and mundane. I believe TOC has a more mature, intellectual and academic audience and participants in various roles. This is what I was looking for in discourses of important national and international issues.

I’ll be returning to this webpage in the not too distant future if welcomed. Thanks.

Ebenezeron
Canada

That’s why the PAP is so concerned about reigning in the media, because of its influence.’

So Gerald, are you playing media with the intention of being ‘reigned in’ one day, if the incentives of being ‘reigned in’ are enough?

Nope, I have not made a police report about this. But I am prepared to if the insults and threats cross the line and become more serious.

Andrew

for about two years, I have enjoyed reading and participating as a commenter, in the Local Socio-political Blogs. There are a good many samaritans working tirelessly for the wellbeings and justices of fellow citizens. As a fellow Singaporean, I like to say a big thank you to all of them and also to show them my respects.

There are others who feel that all the whinings, rantings and ramblings are useless and go to wastes, there are others who feel that Singaporeans complain too much. To some extent, there are some truths in these opinions as well, for all the opinions and suggestions are normally not able to get responses from the relevant authorities and officials. Though this is a normal case, personally, I do not see all the efforts going to waste. The Blog Readers do get the benefits of knowing more insights, professional views and opinions from very learned bloggers and commenters.

There are also many newsworthy developments that may not be published by the MSM, Official Medias and conversely bad and ugly news totally left out because of adverse publicities which I believe the Leadership would want to avoid as much as possible.

I feel I have benefitted much within these two years and will come back to the fraternity when my conditions permit. As I have expressed before, I missed to get myself educated properly with regard the Chinese Language. Now that I am left with little time, I wish to play catch up with Chinese Literatures to better appreciate the great wisdoms of the Chinese Culture. Recently, I bought some of the Chinese Classics but due to the poor groundings I have in Chinese Language(written), I will have to spend more time to learn and understand them.

So folks, I thank YOU ALL for the company and hope that I could come back to enjoy your companies again!

I’m not sure if that’s really true. Political influence is all about swaying voters. Can a voice in parliament sway voters? Not if the media doesn’t report it. If you read JBJ’s book of Parliament speeches, you’ll be amazed at how many good proposals he put forward which Singaporeans never heard about.

That’s why the PAP is so concerned about reigning in the media, because of its influence.

http://magnezium.blogspot.com/2008/06/internet-deregulation.html

Do feel free to come back on any points.

If TOC had once been fair to the BHP, then I believe there is a basis to build on. I don’t believe its just a matter of just throwing a life line to those ex bro writers. Dont believe me go and get someone senior like Tan Kin Lian to touch base with them. But don’t be surprise, if they don’t even want to listen to what he has to say.

I dont wish to come across as abrasive but Adeline, you may be nurturing a pipe dream. As I said earlier, if TOC and their partners were once fair to the BHP, then there is no denying there is certainly a basis to build something on as what you have mentioned.

You really have to ask the likes of Gerald, Andrew and perhaps even Yawning Bread, Dr Cherian George, Bernard Leong et al as to whether they have even delivered on those basic fundamentals. I leave that to all of you. I have no comment. All I can say is there is not even a working channel to communicate.

My take is people are basically the same where ever they are. If you respect them, they will respect you back.

That’s why I believe any reclaiming of ex-BHP writers will be better done by Dr Loy Huchien who runs the Singapore Angle. It is a known fact, the brotherhood may have been critical abt the SA, but nonetheless it is generally well known they also have tremendous respect for him. As he is one of the few who dares to engage their leader on an equal footing. The rest I feel, they will not listen too.

Just my 2 cents

Every morning, thousands of people get brainwashed in MRT stations because they took the TODAY newspaper, which is govt-controlled.

LOL.

so, i say, they must be operating without being strictly controlled.

u belief me ? :P

I would describe the situation as due to the fact that
Singapore is really a YOUNG nation.

It has to grow.
Humans are all the same – the want freedom.

Its a matta of time. ;)