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		<title>By: Bus overcharging, profits, ERP: A triple whammy? (via The Online Citizen) &#124; Geek.Mythology</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-169015</link>
		<dc:creator>Bus overcharging, profits, ERP: A triple whammy? (via The Online Citizen) &#124; Geek.Mythology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 06:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] New formula protects profits for transport companies [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-153405</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 03:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No point arguing the formula and statistics. It is meant to confuse everyone. 
Bottom line is set a minimum return for the transport company, let them charge as much as they want. Public vote will drive priceto an equiibriun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No point arguing the formula and statistics. It is meant to confuse everyone.<br />
Bottom line is set a minimum return for the transport company, let them charge as much as they want. Public vote will drive priceto an equiibriun.</p>
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		<title>By: Low Lang</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-153239</link>
		<dc:creator>Low Lang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public transport is an essential service provide by a government all over the world catering especially to those lower income and the poor. Despite oil price increase, in Beijing, you can board from one end and alight at the other end the bus fare is still one yuan(20 cents) and for MRT the fare is two yuan(40 cents). This is truly a public transport. Over here it should be call bus service because the bus company priority is profit. The bus company here concern more for the investors than the commuters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public transport is an essential service provide by a government all over the world catering especially to those lower income and the poor. Despite oil price increase, in Beijing, you can board from one end and alight at the other end the bus fare is still one yuan(20 cents) and for MRT the fare is two yuan(40 cents). This is truly a public transport. Over here it should be call bus service because the bus company priority is profit. The bus company here concern more for the investors than the commuters.</p>
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		<title>By: 1.5% GST Increase for free public transport &#124; Endoh's Dungeon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-41709</link>
		<dc:creator>1.5% GST Increase for free public transport &#124; Endoh's Dungeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will not be helping you. That&#8217;s even after approving a previous price hike despite the transport companies revealing a healthy profit margin. In fact, quite a big fat profit margin if anyone [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will not be helping you. That&#8217;s even after approving a previous price hike despite the transport companies revealing a healthy profit margin. In fact, quite a big fat profit margin if anyone [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SGMAN</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15921</link>
		<dc:creator>SGMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 10:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When more The formula should not only take into account of increased ridership. Commuters would not be fair for the commuters to bear the full operating cost. The operator should play a more active role in increasing the ridership, encouraging more people to take the public transport. With increase ridership, the increase would be less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When more The formula should not only take into account of increased ridership. Commuters would not be fair for the commuters to bear the full operating cost. The operator should play a more active role in increasing the ridership, encouraging more people to take the public transport. With increase ridership, the increase would be less.</p>
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		<title>By: korek2korek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15695</link>
		<dc:creator>korek2korek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are basically two models for economic (or price) regulation. One is cost-plus or rate-of-return model. The other is price-cap model. Each has its merits and demrits.

We can argue and diagree on which is better. In fact, there is no single superior model.   

I just want to point out that the underlying assumption of cost-plus (Sze Hian&#039;s suggestion) is that we can deterrmine operators&#039; costs accurately. Frankly, can one do so?  What is  peventing operators from incurring costs and then just ask for more?  Isn&#039;t Sze Hian suggestion also mean to &quot;protect the operators&#039; profit&quot;? I would even add that it is even more so with cost-plus model. (pao-chiak case! )

More fundamentally important is the injection or threat of market contestablity. LTA has said they will do so. Let see if they will realise it or not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are basically two models for economic (or price) regulation. One is cost-plus or rate-of-return model. The other is price-cap model. Each has its merits and demrits.</p>
<p>We can argue and diagree on which is better. In fact, there is no single superior model.   </p>
<p>I just want to point out that the underlying assumption of cost-plus (Sze Hian&#8217;s suggestion) is that we can deterrmine operators&#8217; costs accurately. Frankly, can one do so?  What is  peventing operators from incurring costs and then just ask for more?  Isn&#8217;t Sze Hian suggestion also mean to &#8220;protect the operators&#8217; profit&#8221;? I would even add that it is even more so with cost-plus model. (pao-chiak case! )</p>
<p>More fundamentally important is the injection or threat of market contestablity. LTA has said they will do so. Let see if they will realise it or not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: PC</title>
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		<dc:creator>PC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This  article publish in MY PAPER (22-Jul-2008) in page B18 (my say, view point)..

Let see any action taken..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  article publish in MY PAPER (22-Jul-2008) in page B18 (my say, view point)..</p>
<p>Let see any action taken..</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 29</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15440</link>
		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] commuters only) - NO BUNS NO LIFE: Singapore Electronic Road Pricing(ERP) in the Future - TOC: New formula protects profits for transport companies - TOC: Improving public transport – an express [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15416</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Govt believes that producers are more important than consumers. They are wrong. Our economy is slowly shifting towards becoming more dependent on govt expenditure, investment and imports/exports RATHER than consumers because they ignore consumers&#039; feelings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Govt believes that producers are more important than consumers. They are wrong. Our economy is slowly shifting towards becoming more dependent on govt expenditure, investment and imports/exports RATHER than consumers because they ignore consumers&#8217; feelings.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15308</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every thing that they do always lead back the to the same LEE, the same senile old folk who love indulging in self-praise and delusion, except that at Singaporean&#039;s expenses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every thing that they do always lead back the to the same LEE, the same senile old folk who love indulging in self-praise and delusion, except that at Singaporean&#8217;s expenses.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>korek2korek:

Heh. 

You mean that the current operators have the incentive to be &quot;more productive&quot; as they are now? The Singapore transport system is effectively a monopoly conglomerate controlled by 1 entity. A Monopoly (especially one that covers essential needs) has no incentive to be &quot;more productive&quot; by nature. It has no viable competitor and the goods/service it provides is very hard to boycott. Why be more productive when you can easily generate more income by raising prices?

Buying shares is a not a bad suggestion. Except that the group of people who really needs the relief is not likely to be able to afford it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>korek2korek:</p>
<p>Heh. </p>
<p>You mean that the current operators have the incentive to be &#8220;more productive&#8221; as they are now? The Singapore transport system is effectively a monopoly conglomerate controlled by 1 entity. A Monopoly (especially one that covers essential needs) has no incentive to be &#8220;more productive&#8221; by nature. It has no viable competitor and the goods/service it provides is very hard to boycott. Why be more productive when you can easily generate more income by raising prices?</p>
<p>Buying shares is a not a bad suggestion. Except that the group of people who really needs the relief is not likely to be able to afford it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15284</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sze Hian:

Hmm... I don&#039;t see how it would be a 67% increase in transport spendings for the needy family instead of a 3%. I mean, let&#039;s suppose that they spend $100 on transport a month (an impossible number, but it&#039;s a convenient number for an example). If the fare prices increase by 3%, wouldn&#039;t their spending increase to $103, theoretically speaking?

But of course this does not do away with the fact that these people are indeed struggling, and that the transport voucher, even if they get them, is only a temporary relief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sze Hian:</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230; I don&#8217;t see how it would be a 67% increase in transport spendings for the needy family instead of a 3%. I mean, let&#8217;s suppose that they spend $100 on transport a month (an impossible number, but it&#8217;s a convenient number for an example). If the fare prices increase by 3%, wouldn&#8217;t their spending increase to $103, theoretically speaking?</p>
<p>But of course this does not do away with the fact that these people are indeed struggling, and that the transport voucher, even if they get them, is only a temporary relief.</p>
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		<title>By: geng</title>
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		<dc:creator>geng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In any public pricing equation, there are those deemed to benefit and those deemed to suffer.  

Unlike the ERP hikes and GST hikes where all the $$$ got to the government directly, the fare hikes goes to the listed transport companies.  

So, as the saying goes, if you can&#039;t beat them, join them.  Buy shares in Comfort of SMRT, and as shareholders, you can then benefit from increased dividends and share price should these companies make more profits from the increases.
Both currently pay fairly decent dividends of about 5-6%.. and you can use CPF to buy them too.   That&#039;s way more than what CPF or the pathetic bank FDs are gonna pay you.

Basically, the one way to beat inflation is to invest in the things that are causing inflation.  Same as how the pension funds invest in commodities to offset commodities inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In any public pricing equation, there are those deemed to benefit and those deemed to suffer.  </p>
<p>Unlike the ERP hikes and GST hikes where all the $$$ got to the government directly, the fare hikes goes to the listed transport companies.  </p>
<p>So, as the saying goes, if you can&#8217;t beat them, join them.  Buy shares in Comfort of SMRT, and as shareholders, you can then benefit from increased dividends and share price should these companies make more profits from the increases.<br />
Both currently pay fairly decent dividends of about 5-6%.. and you can use CPF to buy them too.   That&#8217;s way more than what CPF or the pathetic bank FDs are gonna pay you.</p>
<p>Basically, the one way to beat inflation is to invest in the things that are causing inflation.  Same as how the pension funds invest in commodities to offset commodities inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/new-formula-protects-profits-for-transport-companies/comment-page-1/#comment-15116</link>
		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jackson

Thanks very much for your remarks.

In the context of the needy, like one of the couples with 2 children and monthly household income of just $800, at our financial counselling session this morning, I think to them its more like a 67% increase or two-thirds increment, rather than a 3% increase.

They have never received a single transport voucher despite their state of poverty  for so many years.

Transport vouchers are given to the needy whenever fares are raised in recent years, but the quantum is typically only for 1 year&#039;s increase.  Shouldn&#039;t they be given vouchers to cover the increase over the years, instead of just 1 year?

Cheers

Leong Sze Hian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jackson</p>
<p>Thanks very much for your remarks.</p>
<p>In the context of the needy, like one of the couples with 2 children and monthly household income of just $800, at our financial counselling session this morning, I think to them its more like a 67% increase or two-thirds increment, rather than a 3% increase.</p>
<p>They have never received a single transport voucher despite their state of poverty  for so many years.</p>
<p>Transport vouchers are given to the needy whenever fares are raised in recent years, but the quantum is typically only for 1 year&#8217;s increase.  Shouldn&#8217;t they be given vouchers to cover the increase over the years, instead of just 1 year?</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Leong Sze Hian</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have nothing useful to comment, except for a minor peeve of mine after reading numerous blog posts making such comment:

&lt;i&gt;The 3 per cent cap for the fare increase is 67 per cent more than 2007’s cap of 1.8 per cent.&lt;/i&gt;

I thought it would be good manners for a writer to avoid using percentages to describe changes in quantities which are measured in percentage point. It can be rather confusing at times.

Perhaps the cause of this is the &quot;indignation&quot; of various bloggers who decried the MSM describing the increase in GST from 5% to 7% as a 2% increase (such bloggers were insisting that it was a 40% increase). Naturally, both are correct, but they differ in the &quot;unit&quot; of percent.

In any case, the original sentence can be alternatively (and in my opinion better) constructed as:

&lt;b&gt;The 3 per cent cap for the fare increase is a two-thirds increment as compared to 2007’s cap of 1.8 per cent.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have nothing useful to comment, except for a minor peeve of mine after reading numerous blog posts making such comment:</p>
<p><i>The 3 per cent cap for the fare increase is 67 per cent more than 2007’s cap of 1.8 per cent.</i></p>
<p>I thought it would be good manners for a writer to avoid using percentages to describe changes in quantities which are measured in percentage point. It can be rather confusing at times.</p>
<p>Perhaps the cause of this is the &#8220;indignation&#8221; of various bloggers who decried the MSM describing the increase in GST from 5% to 7% as a 2% increase (such bloggers were insisting that it was a 40% increase). Naturally, both are correct, but they differ in the &#8220;unit&#8221; of percent.</p>
<p>In any case, the original sentence can be alternatively (and in my opinion better) constructed as:</p>
<p><b>The 3 per cent cap for the fare increase is a two-thirds increment as compared to 2007’s cap of 1.8 per cent.</b></p>
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		<title>By: I love Singapore</title>
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		<dc:creator>I love Singapore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>16) Daniel on July 15th, 2008 10.33 am

Just go on the assumption that you are right - by the measurement of your own pockets. 

Do not waste too much time trying to figure out their own brand of mathematics. We will get to nowhere. They will always make it sound that price increases are  necessary and for our greater good. Really ?

Very much as I would like to twist my brain cells to believe and give them the benefits of doubts by weighing the explanation they have given, my brain cells are so stubborn and refuse to give way a single inch.

They are so very very lucky that they are in control of MSM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16) Daniel on July 15th, 2008 10.33 am</p>
<p>Just go on the assumption that you are right &#8211; by the measurement of your own pockets. </p>
<p>Do not waste too much time trying to figure out their own brand of mathematics. We will get to nowhere. They will always make it sound that price increases are  necessary and for our greater good. Really ?</p>
<p>Very much as I would like to twist my brain cells to believe and give them the benefits of doubts by weighing the explanation they have given, my brain cells are so stubborn and refuse to give way a single inch.</p>
<p>They are so very very lucky that they are in control of MSM.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Sg: 15 Jul 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily Sg: 15 Jul 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ERPains, Trains and Automobiles - My sketchbook: Transport woes(for commuters only) - NO BUNS NO LIFE: Singapore Electronic Road Pricing(ERP) in the Future - TOC: New formula protects profits for transport companies [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 02:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The “lucrative profts” make by SBS elsewhere is subsidising the money losing SBS-Transit operating Punggol-Sengkang LRT, and I suspect, the money-lossing North_East Line as well.

Similarly, the “lucrative” N-S/E-W Line is subsidising the money-lossing Bukit Panjang LRT Line…and maybe even the spur line to Changi Airport and Expo.&quot;

Then the government ought to let us know the overall profit after subsidising. I thought that when someone announced a profit, it after all these deduction of  expenses ? 
Profit = Revenue  - expense
Or is there something government never tell us just like GIC &amp; Temasek ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The “lucrative profts” make by SBS elsewhere is subsidising the money losing SBS-Transit operating Punggol-Sengkang LRT, and I suspect, the money-lossing North_East Line as well.</p>
<p>Similarly, the “lucrative” N-S/E-W Line is subsidising the money-lossing Bukit Panjang LRT Line…and maybe even the spur line to Changi Airport and Expo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then the government ought to let us know the overall profit after subsidising. I thought that when someone announced a profit, it after all these deduction of  expenses ?<br />
Profit = Revenue  &#8211; expense<br />
Or is there something government never tell us just like GIC &amp; Temasek ?</p>
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		<title>By: Lim Lao Pei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lim Lao Pei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a senior citizen, I think that PTC is not doing enough for the elderly group. especially those from the low income group. I mean we have to work even at this age (no thanks to our government) but we would appreciate a little compassion for the rising costs that we face and the stagnant wage that we get. The government and LTA and PTC prides itself as world class but they should take a leaf from London, which has the so-called Freedom Pass for people over 60 and that has benefitted the poor in terms of transport costs.

http://www.freedompass.org/

Instead, we are forced to travel within restricted hours (where waiting for a bus during these hours can be heinous given the weather here) and then when someone raised this, some well-paid minister says that when the government gives half a cup of water, don&#039;t you dare ask for the whole cup. This is patently stupid and insensitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a senior citizen, I think that PTC is not doing enough for the elderly group. especially those from the low income group. I mean we have to work even at this age (no thanks to our government) but we would appreciate a little compassion for the rising costs that we face and the stagnant wage that we get. The government and LTA and PTC prides itself as world class but they should take a leaf from London, which has the so-called Freedom Pass for people over 60 and that has benefitted the poor in terms of transport costs.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freedompass.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freedompass.org/</a></p>
<p>Instead, we are forced to travel within restricted hours (where waiting for a bus during these hours can be heinous given the weather here) and then when someone raised this, some well-paid minister says that when the government gives half a cup of water, don&#8217;t you dare ask for the whole cup. This is patently stupid and insensitive.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaffein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaffein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My beef is: what&#039;s so &#039;public&#039; about transport?

The word &#039;public&#039; in government&#039;s dictionary means public common places. So public transport means transport vehincles that transport you along public roads to public places. The profits earned doesn&#039;t necessarily translate as rebates or subsidies or better services.

Whereas the word &#039;public&#039; in Australia where I am living now means &#039;community public service&#039;. So public transport here means transport vehicles to service the common man to public places. The profits earned usually translate back into keeping the fares consistent and paying the drivers and operators to maintain the service. 

That&#039;s why we are paying millions to the ministers. They are NOT public servants but stakeholders, senior diretors and CEOs in the economy.

Think about it.

Kaffein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My beef is: what&#8217;s so &#8216;public&#8217; about transport?</p>
<p>The word &#8216;public&#8217; in government&#8217;s dictionary means public common places. So public transport means transport vehincles that transport you along public roads to public places. The profits earned doesn&#8217;t necessarily translate as rebates or subsidies or better services.</p>
<p>Whereas the word &#8216;public&#8217; in Australia where I am living now means &#8216;community public service&#8217;. So public transport here means transport vehicles to service the common man to public places. The profits earned usually translate back into keeping the fares consistent and paying the drivers and operators to maintain the service. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why we are paying millions to the ministers. They are NOT public servants but stakeholders, senior diretors and CEOs in the economy.</p>
<p>Think about it.</p>
<p>Kaffein</p>
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