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		<title>By: sincinaman</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-121629</link>
		<dc:creator>sincinaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 15:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago I was walking along Orchard Road near Centrepoint and I saw Mr.JBJ selling his books. I without hesitation bought one not out of pity for him because he is make a bankrupt but for the great sacrifice he has make for the many Singaporeans who hated the PAP government. Come what may, he always gave the PAP a good fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I was walking along Orchard Road near Centrepoint and I saw Mr.JBJ selling his books. I without hesitation bought one not out of pity for him because he is make a bankrupt but for the great sacrifice he has make for the many Singaporeans who hated the PAP government. Come what may, he always gave the PAP a good fight.</p>
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		<title>By: to the late JBJ: may we continue the good fight &#171; In remembrance of a Singapore Patriot - Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam (1926 - 2008)</title>
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		<dc:creator>to the late JBJ: may we continue the good fight &#171; In remembrance of a Singapore Patriot - Joshua Benjamin Jeyaretnam (1926 - 2008)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 02:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeyaretnam definitely deserved a tribute&#8230; I believed one day history will be true and kind to him. But it is not much use to give a posthemus award to a dead man. I believed a fitting tribute to JBJ will be what he wish Singaporeans to do &#8220;Cast off the slumber into which you have been led into for the last 10 years. Wake up to your... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeyaretnam definitely deserved a tribute&#8230; I believed one day history will be true and kind to him. But it is not much use to give a posthemus award to a dead man. I believed a fitting tribute to JBJ will be what he wish Singaporeans to do &#8220;Cast off the slumber into which you have been led into for the last 10 years. Wake up to your&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Choy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15705</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Choy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The present grp of people representing the Opposition is the same old &quot;drab&quot; and they can be put onto the shelf for good. They are  classified as &quot;poor failures&quot;and &quot;hopelessly inadequate&quot; for the job. They are not bold, strong and smart. They did not display grit, tenacity and integrity. Heh! look at them performed in  Parliament. They asked &quot;safe&quot; questions eg.&quot;How many Singaporeans migrate? Our friend confidently answered, &quot;about a thousand averaged over 3 yrs&quot;.
Our Dear Opposition members have not seize up current issue on Singapore to their advantage. May be they are unfit to do so. Better to bet and touch only on safe areas like as above. My question is, why the Opposition members are dead quiet on the current issue on organ transplant, legalisation of organs -  buy and sell, etc.? Why do they allow the &quot;government bench&quot; to swing &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot; wavering over this issue? Why do they allow the &quot;government bench&quot; to control the debate? What and Where are the Opposition stands? Come on &quot;open&quot; all your mouths, Dear Opposition members. Do not just &quot;protest&quot; and anyway protest for What? march for What? They are just &quot;playing&quot; or &quot; main wayang&quot;. I remind all Singaporean not to be easily &quot;fell&quot; and &quot;taken&quot; by their battle cries. Do not get yourself &quot;main buntak&quot; just like what was happening now in a northern country.

We want smart Opposition to come out openly to stand for elections and be a leader for the next generation. The present grp are &#039;has been&quot;. We should send strong signals that they should retire for good. They should sit back and advise. If they continue to behave like &quot;has been&quot; then we should give them a hard flick and kick onto their &quot;buntaks&quot;. They are to be blamed for the state of the Opposition in Singapore today and in the future as they do not want the Opposition to learn and grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The present grp of people representing the Opposition is the same old &#8220;drab&#8221; and they can be put onto the shelf for good. They are  classified as &#8220;poor failures&#8221;and &#8220;hopelessly inadequate&#8221; for the job. They are not bold, strong and smart. They did not display grit, tenacity and integrity. Heh! look at them performed in  Parliament. They asked &#8220;safe&#8221; questions eg.&#8221;How many Singaporeans migrate? Our friend confidently answered, &#8220;about a thousand averaged over 3 yrs&#8221;.<br />
Our Dear Opposition members have not seize up current issue on Singapore to their advantage. May be they are unfit to do so. Better to bet and touch only on safe areas like as above. My question is, why the Opposition members are dead quiet on the current issue on organ transplant, legalisation of organs &#8211;  buy and sell, etc.? Why do they allow the &#8220;government bench&#8221; to swing &#8220;left&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221; wavering over this issue? Why do they allow the &#8220;government bench&#8221; to control the debate? What and Where are the Opposition stands? Come on &#8220;open&#8221; all your mouths, Dear Opposition members. Do not just &#8220;protest&#8221; and anyway protest for What? march for What? They are just &#8220;playing&#8221; or &#8221; main wayang&#8221;. I remind all Singaporean not to be easily &#8220;fell&#8221; and &#8220;taken&#8221; by their battle cries. Do not get yourself &#8220;main buntak&#8221; just like what was happening now in a northern country.</p>
<p>We want smart Opposition to come out openly to stand for elections and be a leader for the next generation. The present grp are &#8216;has been&#8221;. We should send strong signals that they should retire for good. They should sit back and advise. If they continue to behave like &#8220;has been&#8221; then we should give them a hard flick and kick onto their &#8220;buntaks&#8221;. They are to be blamed for the state of the Opposition in Singapore today and in the future as they do not want the Opposition to learn and grow.</p>
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		<title>By: Observer (SG-HK)</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15618</link>
		<dc:creator>Observer (SG-HK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally do not think this time round it is just &quot;rice bowl&quot; issues. People are getting tired of the same old propaganda year on year by the PAPrazzis. Their old tricks no longer work. You will probably see a lot of enticing messaging on the net by year 2010 or as early as late 2009. The bigger issue for the Opposition is how to combat the ever changing election rule. If it is on a one on one basis, I think the Opposition (any Opp. party) chances of winning are higher come 2011. However, we all know that the game isn&#039;t that easy.

I do think the Opposition will manage to win seats but the bigger question is, is that enough to do the check and balance? The real change will come may be two elections later if the Opposition keep up its pace and momentum. Just make sure they play it smart.

One thing will probably stop the advancement of Opposition. If the economy somehow recovered with a strong growth and the lower-income wage earners get their worth and tighter rules are enforced on FT so that local professionals are given a fair play, as well as a sudden change of their mindset to further improve human rights issues. Then it will become an issue to Oppositions. We the voters will then have to think whether it is a non-reversal change or it is just a temporary lift. Another factor that will not work well for the Opposition is, as long as the voting majority cannot rid of their psychological fear factor, it is indeed a tall battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally do not think this time round it is just &#8220;rice bowl&#8221; issues. People are getting tired of the same old propaganda year on year by the PAPrazzis. Their old tricks no longer work. You will probably see a lot of enticing messaging on the net by year 2010 or as early as late 2009. The bigger issue for the Opposition is how to combat the ever changing election rule. If it is on a one on one basis, I think the Opposition (any Opp. party) chances of winning are higher come 2011. However, we all know that the game isn&#8217;t that easy.</p>
<p>I do think the Opposition will manage to win seats but the bigger question is, is that enough to do the check and balance? The real change will come may be two elections later if the Opposition keep up its pace and momentum. Just make sure they play it smart.</p>
<p>One thing will probably stop the advancement of Opposition. If the economy somehow recovered with a strong growth and the lower-income wage earners get their worth and tighter rules are enforced on FT so that local professionals are given a fair play, as well as a sudden change of their mindset to further improve human rights issues. Then it will become an issue to Oppositions. We the voters will then have to think whether it is a non-reversal change or it is just a temporary lift. Another factor that will not work well for the Opposition is, as long as the voting majority cannot rid of their psychological fear factor, it is indeed a tall battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15602</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Oscar,
What makes you so sure that &#039;the Opposition&quot; cannot do &quot;anything better&quot; for the people? and what is new that the present ones are and still doing to the people? Looking at the rate of those local Singaporean leaving the country for good and the ever increasing no. of foreigners arriving and settling down here each year, what possibility could there be happening to &quot;our Singaporean&quot; in the next few years to come? Mtw, are you a local or PR here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Oscar,<br />
What makes you so sure that &#8216;the Opposition&#8221; cannot do &#8220;anything better&#8221; for the people? and what is new that the present ones are and still doing to the people? Looking at the rate of those local Singaporean leaving the country for good and the ever increasing no. of foreigners arriving and settling down here each year, what possibility could there be happening to &#8220;our Singaporean&#8221; in the next few years to come? Mtw, are you a local or PR here?</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Choy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15569</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Choy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Harrison,
As long as the Opposition &quot;as was&quot; in the past as well as &quot;will probably&quot; be in the future cannot and unable to bring to the surface outstanding issues that really and truely affects the &quot;rice bowl&quot;of the general population in Singapore, I am most afraid that they cannot do much to improve its perception. If the Opposition only persists in &quot;pot shots&quot; and nothing else, then what is &quot;new&quot;? What improvements can they advised on? Can they increase the &quot;rice&quot; and put more &quot;meat&quot; on top of it? 

Remember our Opposition on the cheap &quot;pot shot&#039; about the &quot;Howe family&quot; operating a medicine shop in SGH? Everyone in Singapore was confused as there was suspicion cast -  the Health Minister at that time was Howe Yoon Chong. Worst, the &quot;Howe family&quot; cannot sued. They are the different &quot;Howe&quot; unrelated to HYC. Ordinary and law forbidding Singapore citizens are used as pawns by our Opposition for their own ends. I want to bring this up to remind Singaporeans to be careful and do not treat politics as &quot;wayang, wayang&quot; as admitted by one Opposition member. Politics is life and death, just look at events happening  around  South East Asia countries. If one decides to go for &quot;hunger strike&quot; and not prepare to fight to the &quot;finish&quot; one can be as well &quot;finished by itself&quot; - close shop, pack up and go home! as there is nothing to &quot;fight&quot; anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Harrison,<br />
As long as the Opposition &#8220;as was&#8221; in the past as well as &#8220;will probably&#8221; be in the future cannot and unable to bring to the surface outstanding issues that really and truely affects the &#8220;rice bowl&#8221;of the general population in Singapore, I am most afraid that they cannot do much to improve its perception. If the Opposition only persists in &#8220;pot shots&#8221; and nothing else, then what is &#8220;new&#8221;? What improvements can they advised on? Can they increase the &#8220;rice&#8221; and put more &#8220;meat&#8221; on top of it? </p>
<p>Remember our Opposition on the cheap &#8220;pot shot&#8217; about the &#8220;Howe family&#8221; operating a medicine shop in SGH? Everyone in Singapore was confused as there was suspicion cast &#8211;  the Health Minister at that time was Howe Yoon Chong. Worst, the &#8220;Howe family&#8221; cannot sued. They are the different &#8220;Howe&#8221; unrelated to HYC. Ordinary and law forbidding Singapore citizens are used as pawns by our Opposition for their own ends. I want to bring this up to remind Singaporeans to be careful and do not treat politics as &#8220;wayang, wayang&#8221; as admitted by one Opposition member. Politics is life and death, just look at events happening  around  South East Asia countries. If one decides to go for &#8220;hunger strike&#8221; and not prepare to fight to the &#8220;finish&#8221; one can be as well &#8220;finished by itself&#8221; &#8211; close shop, pack up and go home! as there is nothing to &#8220;fight&#8221; anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15518</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar Choy,

Time for you to sober up from indulging on the past. The past cannot be the future and the future is what really matters. PAP is not the same party that we identified with from 1965 to 1990. The problem lies in someone perpetuating a dynastic system and who has an unyielding lust for power. He will be the one who will bring down the party as well. General Cao Cao is representative of him.

Singaporeans have been led to believe PAP unintelligently through manipulation of the main newspapers and the unions. The Internet has exposed some of the heinous crimes of criminals and politicians around the world. Singapore will not be cushioned from this.

Opposition parties will be made stronger through the aid of the Internet which has made citizens&#039; journalism possible. This union will break the political chain that has been dangling from Singaporeans&#039; ankle for the past decades.

If you&#039;re seeing only old men in the opposition party, it&#039;s because you&#039;re rather myopic in not looking beyond the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oscar Choy,</p>
<p>Time for you to sober up from indulging on the past. The past cannot be the future and the future is what really matters. PAP is not the same party that we identified with from 1965 to 1990. The problem lies in someone perpetuating a dynastic system and who has an unyielding lust for power. He will be the one who will bring down the party as well. General Cao Cao is representative of him.</p>
<p>Singaporeans have been led to believe PAP unintelligently through manipulation of the main newspapers and the unions. The Internet has exposed some of the heinous crimes of criminals and politicians around the world. Singapore will not be cushioned from this.</p>
<p>Opposition parties will be made stronger through the aid of the Internet which has made citizens&#8217; journalism possible. This union will break the political chain that has been dangling from Singaporeans&#8217; ankle for the past decades.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re seeing only old men in the opposition party, it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re rather myopic in not looking beyond the picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Choy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15509</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Choy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reform Party..... We shall (see.....  and not We must......) liberate the people. What liberation are they talking about? Are they talking and reminding the people that they themselves are in the process of being in liberation.... or already liberated. And look carefully retrospectively at not too distant past actions, they had all the time not able to take care of themselves and now they are talking of taking care of us...... since when this &quot;battle cry&quot; started..... remembered the previous &quot;battle cry&quot;......&quot;It&#039;s Time&quot; but deep in our minds now..... &quot;What&#039;s was &quot;the time&quot; are they talking about 15 years ago?&quot; It was all &quot;RUBBISH!!!&quot;now.
Any NSmen will tell you this... all these rally cries are TKNA ...... Talk Cock No Action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reform Party&#8230;.. We shall (see&#8230;..  and not We must&#8230;&#8230;) liberate the people. What liberation are they talking about? Are they talking and reminding the people that they themselves are in the process of being in liberation&#8230;. or already liberated. And look carefully retrospectively at not too distant past actions, they had all the time not able to take care of themselves and now they are talking of taking care of us&#8230;&#8230; since when this &#8220;battle cry&#8221; started&#8230;.. remembered the previous &#8220;battle cry&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;&#8221;It&#8217;s Time&#8221; but deep in our minds now&#8230;.. &#8220;What&#8217;s was &#8220;the time&#8221; are they talking about 15 years ago?&#8221; It was all &#8220;RUBBISH!!!&#8221;now.<br />
Any NSmen will tell you this&#8230; all these rally cries are TKNA &#8230;&#8230; Talk Cock No Action.</p>
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		<title>By: lulu</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15473</link>
		<dc:creator>lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from a disillusioned supporter..who is eagerly anticipating sincere efforts from the Reform Party..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from a disillusioned supporter..who is eagerly anticipating sincere efforts from the Reform Party..</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 29</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the JBJedi - TOC: Reform Party: We shall liberate the people - Sgfrag: My thoughts on the TOC video coverage of the RP dinner - UncleYap: Clear Sign of SG [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the JBJedi &#8211; TOC: Reform Party: We shall liberate the people &#8211; Sgfrag: My thoughts on the TOC video coverage of the RP dinner &#8211; UncleYap: Clear Sign of SG [...]</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15342</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>welcome JBJ and all your supporters, go for it now, we are with you and enough of all these family run biz at the expense of the sufering citizens, enough is enough. . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>welcome JBJ and all your supporters, go for it now, we are with you and enough of all these family run biz at the expense of the sufering citizens, enough is enough. . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15333</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more LKY thank you!</description>
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		<title>By: Sylvester Lim</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15292</link>
		<dc:creator>Sylvester Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really on July 15th, 2008 7.39 pm. Can I say the protests that you see and know of are shown on our wonderful nation building MSM? How many protests have you seen on the telly and newspapers of peaceful ones? For example, in 2006, 500,000 HongKongers came out to protest the proposed GST and the HK government decided not to impose that. Oh, Goh Meng Seng of NSP participated in this &#039;safe&#039; protest. Asian countries such as HK, Taiwan, S. Korea and Japan permit protests. Have their economies collapsed, this according to our learned MM Lee if Singapore permits it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really on July 15th, 2008 7.39 pm. Can I say the protests that you see and know of are shown on our wonderful nation building MSM? How many protests have you seen on the telly and newspapers of peaceful ones? For example, in 2006, 500,000 HongKongers came out to protest the proposed GST and the HK government decided not to impose that. Oh, Goh Meng Seng of NSP participated in this &#8217;safe&#8217; protest. Asian countries such as HK, Taiwan, S. Korea and Japan permit protests. Have their economies collapsed, this according to our learned MM Lee if Singapore permits it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Choy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/reform-party-we-shall-liberate-the-people/comment-page-2/#comment-15246</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Choy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All these &quot;wisemen&quot; in all these Parties are &quot;washout&quot;. They go on &quot;hunger strike&quot; but drunk glucose in the toilet/study hoping that nobody sees them, Ah Ha! there are &quot;insider trading&quot; spies reporting their hideous workout in the toilet/study!! These &quot;wisemen&quot; are not TOUGH men. They are not BOLD men. Neither are they SMART. They are classified as &quot;cheats&quot; by some Parties.
If one decides to go into politics, by all means go &quot;all out&quot; for it. And if one decides and make up one&#039;s mind to go on &quot;hunger strike&quot; and &quot;fight&quot; to the finish like &quot;fighting fish&quot; then please die as one. Do not behave like what was depicted in the &quot;70s Taiwanese fighting movies, pulling out the sword to fight but after a long conversation, then putting the sword back into the sheath and then said we will fight again the next opportunity when we meet. This is not Taiwanese movies!! This is politics. This is serious business. One can live and can die from, and by it! 
Again, who are these &quot;insider trading&quot; spies that they surrounded with? Have they been identified and removed. But then oh! NO, one can vote for the other Parties and yet can hold and clung dearly onto official post of the &quot;wisemen&quot; Parties! This is a classical anti-claimax! A joke, if you can call this as one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All these &#8220;wisemen&#8221; in all these Parties are &#8220;washout&#8221;. They go on &#8220;hunger strike&#8221; but drunk glucose in the toilet/study hoping that nobody sees them, Ah Ha! there are &#8220;insider trading&#8221; spies reporting their hideous workout in the toilet/study!! These &#8220;wisemen&#8221; are not TOUGH men. They are not BOLD men. Neither are they SMART. They are classified as &#8220;cheats&#8221; by some Parties.<br />
If one decides to go into politics, by all means go &#8220;all out&#8221; for it. And if one decides and make up one&#8217;s mind to go on &#8220;hunger strike&#8221; and &#8220;fight&#8221; to the finish like &#8220;fighting fish&#8221; then please die as one. Do not behave like what was depicted in the &#8220;70s Taiwanese fighting movies, pulling out the sword to fight but after a long conversation, then putting the sword back into the sheath and then said we will fight again the next opportunity when we meet. This is not Taiwanese movies!! This is politics. This is serious business. One can live and can die from, and by it!<br />
Again, who are these &#8220;insider trading&#8221; spies that they surrounded with? Have they been identified and removed. But then oh! NO, one can vote for the other Parties and yet can hold and clung dearly onto official post of the &#8220;wisemen&#8221; Parties! This is a classical anti-claimax! A joke, if you can call this as one.</p>
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		<title>By: Lai cf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lai cf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 04:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>50) Oscar Choy.

Look upon JB Jeyaretnam just like a catalyst to attract a new cohort to start all over again.

He is still an old man, will not lvie forever.

Look behidn him as to his members and supporters; and not just look at JB Jeyaretnam, perhaps a frontman for all those &quot;pwoer broekrs&quot; behind the scene?

Like SDB Chee Soon Juan, I put on my rosy-tinted galsses and see the likes of Chia Ti Lik and E-Jay and Co...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>50) Oscar Choy.</p>
<p>Look upon JB Jeyaretnam just like a catalyst to attract a new cohort to start all over again.</p>
<p>He is still an old man, will not lvie forever.</p>
<p>Look behidn him as to his members and supporters; and not just look at JB Jeyaretnam, perhaps a frontman for all those &#8220;pwoer broekrs&#8221; behind the scene?</p>
<p>Like SDB Chee Soon Juan, I put on my rosy-tinted galsses and see the likes of Chia Ti Lik and E-Jay and Co&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s so bad about protest marches (that is peaceful in nature)? With the way Singaporeans have been brought up, apathy would have prevented a good many people from joining in the first place.

Despite all the &quot;unrest and injuries&quot; in Japan, Korea, and Hong Kong as you said, we don&#039;t see MNC&#039;s fleeing those country because of it. 

What&#039;s so bad about &quot;rioting inside the parliament&quot;?

At least people won&#039;t sleep during the sessions because of the dullness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s so bad about protest marches (that is peaceful in nature)? With the way Singaporeans have been brought up, apathy would have prevented a good many people from joining in the first place.</p>
<p>Despite all the &#8220;unrest and injuries&#8221; in Japan, Korea, and Hong Kong as you said, we don&#8217;t see MNC&#8217;s fleeing those country because of it. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s so bad about &#8220;rioting inside the parliament&#8221;?</p>
<p>At least people won&#8217;t sleep during the sessions because of the dullness.</p>
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		<title>By: Lai CF</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lai CF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We wouldn&#039;t really know until we have our first protest march.
But I doubt whether JB Jeyaretnam can muster 100 people to join him.

I wonder..what if Lee Hsien Loong throws down the gauntlet, call for a By-Election at Jurong GRC and cahllenged the &quot;united opposition&quot; to field a team against them?
1 - RP - Jeyaretnam
2 - WP - Slyvia Lim
3 - SDP - Chia Ti Lik
4 - NSP - Goh Meng Seng
5 - SDA who?

Will this proves that PAp is sincere allowing oppostion to develop into a viable and credible ALternative Party, ready to challeng PAP for the right to govern SIngapore by GE2024?

SIngapore Political Scene is exactly like our MRT System.
Youc na&#039;t afford to ahve more than 2 operators.

PAP vs Alternative Party then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We wouldn&#8217;t really know until we have our first protest march.<br />
But I doubt whether JB Jeyaretnam can muster 100 people to join him.</p>
<p>I wonder..what if Lee Hsien Loong throws down the gauntlet, call for a By-Election at Jurong GRC and cahllenged the &#8220;united opposition&#8221; to field a team against them?<br />
1 &#8211; RP &#8211; Jeyaretnam<br />
2 &#8211; WP &#8211; Slyvia Lim<br />
3 &#8211; SDP &#8211; Chia Ti Lik<br />
4 &#8211; NSP &#8211; Goh Meng Seng<br />
5 &#8211; SDA who?</p>
<p>Will this proves that PAp is sincere allowing oppostion to develop into a viable and credible ALternative Party, ready to challeng PAP for the right to govern SIngapore by GE2024?</p>
<p>SIngapore Political Scene is exactly like our MRT System.<br />
Youc na&#8217;t afford to ahve more than 2 operators.</p>
<p>PAP vs Alternative Party then.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Choy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar Choy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Reform? What Reform? He was kicked out from Workers Party just a few years ago. This was very disappointing. They, the Workers Party failed to give him critical support when he was down and bankrupt. He had worked so hard to retool the Workers Party since taking over from what were leftover from David Marshall. This is history repeating...... macham like Chiam being booted out from SDP. I think both are indeed very sad but what can they do besides putting up smiling faces, but deep in their hearts it will be different. Can they co-operate? Well, time will tell. The first signal has already shown that they are different. Why Reform? What Reform? Why another Party? More Parties, more players. This is not an orchestra, exploding different tunes!!

As long as all these Parties vying for limited seats, there were be fightings may be amongst themselves, called these bull fights or cock fights - they are the same.
That is why I urge some of you to &quot;stand up for Singapore&quot; to stand for election as an Independent candidate, win a seat in Parliment and start afresh to form your own Party. Singapore want fresh faces, fresh ideas.....   all these &quot;leftovers&quot; are already &quot;has been&quot; and, they should rightly put on the shelf!! We need a next generation of opposition leaders BIG, STRONG and SMART. Please, no more same old faces and &quot;washout&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why Reform? What Reform? He was kicked out from Workers Party just a few years ago. This was very disappointing. They, the Workers Party failed to give him critical support when he was down and bankrupt. He had worked so hard to retool the Workers Party since taking over from what were leftover from David Marshall. This is history repeating&#8230;&#8230; macham like Chiam being booted out from SDP. I think both are indeed very sad but what can they do besides putting up smiling faces, but deep in their hearts it will be different. Can they co-operate? Well, time will tell. The first signal has already shown that they are different. Why Reform? What Reform? Why another Party? More Parties, more players. This is not an orchestra, exploding different tunes!!</p>
<p>As long as all these Parties vying for limited seats, there were be fightings may be amongst themselves, called these bull fights or cock fights &#8211; they are the same.<br />
That is why I urge some of you to &#8220;stand up for Singapore&#8221; to stand for election as an Independent candidate, win a seat in Parliment and start afresh to form your own Party. Singapore want fresh faces, fresh ideas&#8230;..   all these &#8220;leftovers&#8221; are already &#8220;has been&#8221; and, they should rightly put on the shelf!! We need a next generation of opposition leaders BIG, STRONG and SMART. Please, no more same old faces and &#8220;washout&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: really</title>
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		<dc:creator>really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about protest marches. I see the Japanese, I see the Hongkongers, I see the Taiwanese, I see the South Koreans clashing with police during demonstrations. (Sometimes I see rioting inside of parliament, South Korean or Taiwanese. Ridiculous. Ugly.) I see unrest and injury. I really don&#039;t know about protest marches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about protest marches. I see the Japanese, I see the Hongkongers, I see the Taiwanese, I see the South Koreans clashing with police during demonstrations. (Sometimes I see rioting inside of parliament, South Korean or Taiwanese. Ridiculous. Ugly.) I see unrest and injury. I really don&#8217;t know about protest marches.</p>
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		<title>By: Lai cf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lai cf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bolshevism is internally aristocratic and externally militant. TheCommunists in many ways resemble the British public-school type: theyhave all the good and bad traits of an aristocracy which is young and vital. They are courageous, energetic, capable of command, alwaysready to serve the State; on the other hand, they are dictatorial,lacking in ordinary consideration for the plebs. They are practicallythe sole possessors of power, and they enjoy innumerable advantages inconsequence. ..
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Bertrand Russell [1920]&quot;The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism&quot;
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How to &quot;Informed&quot; and &quot;Educated&quot; working-class Singaporeans?

And why it is essential for Reform Party to setup educaiton clubs, culture &amp; social clubs and sport clubs to build from grassroot level a membership, a cohort of dedicated supporters, cadres who are  &quot;...courageous, energetic, capable of command, always ready to serve the Party and State; humble, deviod of dictatorial tendency, compassionate and empathise with ordinary consideration for the working-class Singaporeans. &quot;

That is my Dream for Reform Party....and PAP when PAP was &quot;young&quot; in the 60s and 70s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bolshevism is internally aristocratic and externally militant. TheCommunists in many ways resemble the British public-school type: theyhave all the good and bad traits of an aristocracy which is young and vital. They are courageous, energetic, capable of command, alwaysready to serve the State; on the other hand, they are dictatorial,lacking in ordinary consideration for the plebs. They are practicallythe sole possessors of power, and they enjoy innumerable advantages inconsequence. ..<br />
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Bertrand Russell [1920]&#8220;The Practice and Theory of Bolshevism&#8221;<br />
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<p>How to &#8220;Informed&#8221; and &#8220;Educated&#8221; working-class Singaporeans?</p>
<p>And why it is essential for Reform Party to setup educaiton clubs, culture &amp; social clubs and sport clubs to build from grassroot level a membership, a cohort of dedicated supporters, cadres who are  &#8220;&#8230;courageous, energetic, capable of command, always ready to serve the Party and State; humble, deviod of dictatorial tendency, compassionate and empathise with ordinary consideration for the working-class Singaporeans. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is my Dream for Reform Party&#8230;.and PAP when PAP was &#8220;young&#8221; in the 60s and 70s.</p>
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