Comments on: Singapore Press – rushing to infernal self-condemnation

By: offlinecitizen

offlinecitizen — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 04:46:29 +0000

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=593200550

aw cheng wei, this one?

By: theonlinecitizen

theonlinecitizen — Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:58:12 +0000

To the one who posted under the nick “outercomm”,

Your comments are disallowed to be posted. The reason being that it is a cut & paste from another website – and it is 3,173 words-long. (Yes, we counted the number of words).

Please refrain from cutting & pasting such long postings from other websites.

You may, however, post short excerpts of them and provide a url link to the website.

Thanks.

By: antz

antz — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:45:30 +0000

In singapore,it’s real difficult to really have full,transparennt democracy.Unlike other asian neighbours where politicians can openly be criticised or undermined by the public.
Singapore is a place where u gotta to line in two’s,hold hands listen to what the teacher says cos ‘it’s for the future and for your own good’ and be obediant.

cos the reason is pls duly remind of our roots.

In the first place we should not be even a country. There is ppl out in the street especially the young who do see the real out of it.

I shouldn’t be surprise if for another century ‘full’ democracy’ or ‘freedom of speech’ will exist in singapore…

By: patriot

patriot — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 12:52:58 +0000

WE ARE IN MUCH NEED OF HONOURABLE SINGAPOREANS, AT THE VERY LEAST, SINGAPOREANS WITH CONSCIENCES.

IT IS SCARY TO SEE A SOCIETY THAT HAS NO RESPECT FOR JUSTICE.

patriot.

By: Erudio

Erudio — Sun, 06 Jul 2008 09:21:32 +0000

A family tragedy involving death. The newspaper use nick name of person who is not the culprit or dead to sell news n thus the newspaper. N fer gd measure make his electoral losses look “dismal” (yes, Sunday Times 6 Jul 2008 really used “dismally”)

“Wear the badge with pride” indeed! Wat can we expect fr the pro-gov people in SG. They R not the ones grieving, they speak like ones who r detached fr human emotions n basic decency in conduct, no sense of occasion, arrogant n robotically PRAGMATIC, just like the gov, just like the press.

I send my sympathy to Tan Lead Shake.

By: Oscar Choy

Oscar Choy — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:54:59 +0000

For GOD sake, the fact that this article invite many interesting comments, pro & cons, good and bad, attack and defence or otherwise. Today has done its jobs. The paper sells!!! Have you bought one?

By: lim

lim — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:04:36 +0000

How is it “victimize”?

My understanding is that saying anyone wears slippers or is an opposition politician is not defamatory or slanderous. I wear slippers too. Messrs Chiam, Jeyeretnam, Low and Sylvia Lim (non-related) are all opposition politicians. I think they deservingly wear that badge with pride.

Y’know, there is a story about what happens to people who cry wolf all the time. Can I ask, where is the wolf in this case?

By: Erudio

Erudio — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 06:05:52 +0000

If case involve PAP MP past or present, he come under scope of examination. If their family members in news, shld they come under same intensity of examination? If it proven a PAP MP involve indirectly in acts by their family members, he come under scope of examination. But if he not involve in act, Y victimize him? Simple logic.

By: lim

lim — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 05:10:34 +0000

When one looks at past cases involving PAP members, it has been pretty similar. Mr Lew Sin Pau’s political past as a PAP MP was not really an issue in his corruption case but nevertheless, the press reported it (and in the same light cast some doubts over PAP’s MP selection process).

Same thing happened with Teh Cheang Wan, when he committed suicide.

Let’s face it, when something happens to the PM’s brother or his wife, inevitably the PM and/or MM names get dragged in. The press doesn’t need to do so but they do it anyway….

In any case, I don’t really see how mentioning Mr Tan’s position (former?) as a opposition politician or his choice of footwear makes a difference to public perception.

By: Erudio

Erudio — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:18:21 +0000

Up to now still got people say nothing wrong bcos the press report the truth. The qn is whether it’s relevant, whether the emphasis is correctly directed, whether news got hidden motives, whether the press serving the political propaganda agenda of the gov is right.

To the people who think truthfulness in reporting is reporting the truth, i say ur education has failed, n u r not truthful to ur moral value.

By: mkta

mkta — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:55:44 +0000

And in another thread posters are complaining about the lack of freedom of speech. In the end I suppose readers of news on the Internet will only see all this as a “slug-it-out” between media, that ‘The Online Citizen’ can claim to own some small part of. Funny that I should have mentioned ‘freedom of speech’ earlier (and here, instead of the other thread), but let me just say that I consider the democratic desires, if I may put it that way, in individuals to be a passing phase in life, and an on-off thing as well, instead of being a true wish that it is beneficial to other members in society. I think everyone has to be careful of the noise he or she is making sometimes. Because, and maybe one speaks from personal experience, someone can also come out of nowhere and you won’t even know what hit you. You won’t even know why. Oh ho ho ho

By: DavidSeeLeongKit

DavidSeeLeongKit — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:56:56 +0000

THAT’S WHY:
> I refer to it as “our shamelessly pro-PAP (instead of pro-Singapore) Press/TV Media”
> Other netizens gave the nicknames of “The SHIT Times” and “MediaCOCK TV”.
> Our former Chief Minister David Marshall aptly described our Media as “PAP bootlickers, running dogs and poor prostitutes”.

By: lim

lim — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:29:24 +0000

If one currently reads NST (new straits times not NSP)’s coverage of the latest anti-Anwar claims, then one would know what is truly propaganda….

eg Security Guard see anwar visiting condo (one month ago but not on days of alleged abuse… = he was there…)

I still can remember the comedy of Anwar’s original “crime”. Prosecutor mentioned a few days when the crime occurred, Anwar produced evidence that shows he was not there. Then court shifts dates to 1 month long without specific dates…. That after stealing Anwar’s diary. The best part, the court convicting on the basis of a stained mattress… lol. Imagine they can do that to a DPM, the kind of message they send…

So far, none of the Singapore newspapers have fabricated anything to link Mr Tan to the murder. If anything, I think a lot of people appear to have sympathy with the poor guy.

By: Saint Splattergut

Saint Splattergut — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:50:37 +0000

To Pondefecator’s comment:

David Marshall FTW XD

By: huizhong

huizhong — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:25:17 +0000

He was reporting all the truth, whts the fuss?

By: pet shop

pet shop — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 17:03:29 +0000

‘dogs trying very hard to score point infront of it’s master’ . Just called & cancel ‘Shit Times’ subscription this afternoon. saving up the daily 70 cents paper money to buy incense paper for the dog’s master final day party. should be coming soon. endure !!!

By: intent

intent — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 16:45:25 +0000

This is cheap. Really hitting below the belt. I really hope people would stop reading/watching the MSM. Anyone who can’t read the propaganda in that headlines is really naive.

By: Observer

Observer — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 14:34:45 +0000

Observer interrogating Observer,

Oh dear, it is certainly interesting to see another Observer commenintg. I think I need to take a haitus from this blog. Scary. It certainly wasn’t me commenitng (9) above.

By: Observer

Observer — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:37:00 +0000

I watched the Chinese news over Channel 8. Same thing, the words ‘opposition member’ 反对党人 was repeated several times whenever Mr Tan was mentioned, it has become the prefix of his name. Just switch Mr Tan with another member under PAP, do you think you will see the news goes like this… “PAP member Mr Tan’s brother was fatally stabbed”? With a few lines later further mention that the suspect is Mr Tan’s wife?

By: Pondefecator

Pondefecator — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:17:42 +0000

Reading LSL’s article, I can’t help but recalled the admonishing words directed at our local journalists by the late David Marshall. “You poor prostitutes.” he said. While it would be wrong to tar all with the same brush; I’ve followed some occasional and uncharacteristically heroic reporting that goes against the grain of what we’ve cynically come to expect from them. Yup, and to Mr.Marshall’s words I add, “And you swallow too.”