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		<title>By: white raven</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15723</link>
		<dc:creator>white raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When WKS says &quot;We&#039;ve done it before&quot;, maybe he meant we have screwed up before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When WKS says &#8220;We&#8217;ve done it before&#8221;, maybe he meant we have screwed up before.</p>
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		<title>By: feedmetothefish</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15722</link>
		<dc:creator>feedmetothefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aiyoh, please lah, don&#039;t  &quot;lao kah kui kor, again, lah&quot;  meaning &quot; sh!tting all over your pants&quot; aka &quot;embarass yourself further with dumb arrogance&quot;!

&quot;Fool me once, shame on you
Fool me twice, shame on me&quot;

I&#039;ve written that the MHA should not bring Mohammed Hassan, the alleged Singaporean bomb-maker captured by the Indonesian authorities, back to Singapore. If Mas Selamat (who allegedly escaped) is found in Indonesia, I strongly advise the MHA to leave him there. Don&#039;t act smart &quot;keh kiang&quot; again and ask for extradition! I think enough is enough! 

Let&#039;s follow the good old LKY&#039;s &quot;Stop at Two&quot; policy! No, not the Family Planning thingy lah, I mean the two escapes! One alleged at Whitley Detention Camp and the other at the Subordinate Courts.

The Indonesians are so good at arresting them and we are so good at letting them escape! 

From above, we should learn that self-proclaimed First World Singapore is good at certain stuff while our neighbours are efficient at others :) 

Let&#039;s eat the humble pie and give credit where credit is due.

Though WKS may be immuned to the sense of shame, Singaporeans may not like to be had again (fooled for the third time?) with regards to Great Escapes?

So why bring more misery? Or is there a streak of masochism in the MHA?

Btw, did the Swedes stop at two too?

feedmetothefish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aiyoh, please lah, don&#8217;t  &#8220;lao kah kui kor, again, lah&#8221;  meaning &#8221; sh!tting all over your pants&#8221; aka &#8220;embarass yourself further with dumb arrogance&#8221;!</p>
<p>&#8220;Fool me once, shame on you<br />
Fool me twice, shame on me&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written that the MHA should not bring Mohammed Hassan, the alleged Singaporean bomb-maker captured by the Indonesian authorities, back to Singapore. If Mas Selamat (who allegedly escaped) is found in Indonesia, I strongly advise the MHA to leave him there. Don&#8217;t act smart &#8220;keh kiang&#8221; again and ask for extradition! I think enough is enough! </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s follow the good old LKY&#8217;s &#8220;Stop at Two&#8221; policy! No, not the Family Planning thingy lah, I mean the two escapes! One alleged at Whitley Detention Camp and the other at the Subordinate Courts.</p>
<p>The Indonesians are so good at arresting them and we are so good at letting them escape! </p>
<p>From above, we should learn that self-proclaimed First World Singapore is good at certain stuff while our neighbours are efficient at others :) </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s eat the humble pie and give credit where credit is due.</p>
<p>Though WKS may be immuned to the sense of shame, Singaporeans may not like to be had again (fooled for the third time?) with regards to Great Escapes?</p>
<p>So why bring more misery? Or is there a streak of masochism in the MHA?</p>
<p>Btw, did the Swedes stop at two too?</p>
<p>feedmetothefish</p>
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		<title>By: brick</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15721</link>
		<dc:creator>brick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the Minister wishes he could simply say &quot;We remain committed to finding and capturing Mas Selamat - as soon as we can possibly deliver&quot; - which is perfectly acceptable to, and greatly desired by everyone (We cannot imagine any objections from anyone, to a swift capture of the fugitive, can we?)  - but what we hear is a different choice of words. Is there something else Mr Wong wants to tell us? Because &quot;no matter how long it takes&quot; leaves too much to speculation and imagination. 

&quot;We have done it before.&quot; is a worrying statement, if it is even meant to give any assurance, since the most recent &quot;been there, done that&quot; of MHA is the escape of MSK. Please (on our hands and knees), no, not that again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the Minister wishes he could simply say &#8220;We remain committed to finding and capturing Mas Selamat &#8211; as soon as we can possibly deliver&#8221; &#8211; which is perfectly acceptable to, and greatly desired by everyone (We cannot imagine any objections from anyone, to a swift capture of the fugitive, can we?)  &#8211; but what we hear is a different choice of words. Is there something else Mr Wong wants to tell us? Because &#8220;no matter how long it takes&#8221; leaves too much to speculation and imagination. </p>
<p>&#8220;We have done it before.&#8221; is a worrying statement, if it is even meant to give any assurance, since the most recent &#8220;been there, done that&#8221; of MHA is the escape of MSK. Please (on our hands and knees), no, not that again.</p>
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		<title>By: takingmangoes</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15720</link>
		<dc:creator>takingmangoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strictly speaking, you do not go abroad to capture even your own people. You can&#039;t do that. Countries as powerful as the US A have sought the help of national authorities in Pakistan, The Philippines and Indonesia to locate terrorist elements. You do, however, seek the help of foreign authorities to locate and repatriate a fugitive. That is your part in detaining those who plot acts against the state, your part in protecting national interests; that is how you find and capture the leader of a terrorist cell. I thought the minister spoke like a minister of the ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly speaking, you do not go abroad to capture even your own people. You can&#8217;t do that. Countries as powerful as the US A have sought the help of national authorities in Pakistan, The Philippines and Indonesia to locate terrorist elements. You do, however, seek the help of foreign authorities to locate and repatriate a fugitive. That is your part in detaining those who plot acts against the state, your part in protecting national interests; that is how you find and capture the leader of a terrorist cell. I thought the minister spoke like a minister of the ministry.</p>
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		<title>By: AhKao</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15706</link>
		<dc:creator>AhKao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We will do our utmost to find Mas Selamat whatever it takes. If Mas Selamat has escaped abroad, we will work with the relevant foreign counterparts to track him down and bring him back into custody in Singapore. We have done it before; we will do it again.&quot;

Was this line misquoted by TOC? Or was it CHANGED after TOC quoted it?

In such a context, the &quot;we&quot; could mean him, his Home Team and even &quot;relevant foreign counterparts&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We will do our utmost to find Mas Selamat whatever it takes. If Mas Selamat has escaped abroad, we will work with the relevant foreign counterparts to track him down and bring him back into custody in Singapore. We have done it before; we will do it again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Was this line misquoted by TOC? Or was it CHANGED after TOC quoted it?</p>
<p>In such a context, the &#8220;we&#8221; could mean him, his Home Team and even &#8220;relevant foreign counterparts&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MAS please make them fulfill their committment</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAS please make them fulfill their committment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Sounds very familiar leh. Just like in investment products, this refrain is equally applicable in catching magician now-you-see-it-now-you-don&#039;t MAS.

We remain committed in WAITING for those committed to finding and capturing Mas Selamat no matter how long it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Sounds very familiar leh. Just like in investment products, this refrain is equally applicable in catching magician now-you-see-it-now-you-don&#8217;t MAS.</p>
<p>We remain committed in WAITING for those committed to finding and capturing Mas Selamat no matter how long it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15699</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The words &quot;we have done it before&quot; betray a sense of =complacency=. Now where have I heard someone else using that word?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words &#8220;we have done it before&#8221; betray a sense of =complacency=. Now where have I heard someone else using that word?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Loh</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15688</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Loh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think someone should remind the minister that it was S&#039;pore which let Mas Selamat slipped through its hands initially when the 13 or so JI suspects were rounded up.

It was later that the Indonesians captured him.

Mas Selamat was then HANDED over to Singapore.

Singapore then let him escape in February this year.

When have we &quot;done it before&quot;? The only thing we have &quot;done before&quot; was to let him escape - TWICE!

Wong Kan Seng doesn&#039;t seem to be very good in his job - or at least in knowing what is going on around him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think someone should remind the minister that it was S&#8217;pore which let Mas Selamat slipped through its hands initially when the 13 or so JI suspects were rounded up.</p>
<p>It was later that the Indonesians captured him.</p>
<p>Mas Selamat was then HANDED over to Singapore.</p>
<p>Singapore then let him escape in February this year.</p>
<p>When have we &#8220;done it before&#8221;? The only thing we have &#8220;done before&#8221; was to let him escape &#8211; TWICE!</p>
<p>Wong Kan Seng doesn&#8217;t seem to be very good in his job &#8211; or at least in knowing what is going on around him.</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15682</link>
		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disgusting.

Power and wealth overrides his personal values and sense of shame.

yucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disgusting.</p>
<p>Power and wealth overrides his personal values and sense of shame.</p>
<p>yucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Conjob</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/07/we-have-done-it-before/comment-page-1/#comment-15680</link>
		<dc:creator>Conjob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have done it before &quot;............really Mr. Wong Kan Seng ?
It was the Indonesians , and you shamelessly take away the credit due to them.

Can we hold you to your word when you said &quot;no matter how long it takes&quot;, ie to find and capture Mas Selamat ?
Well, assuming you have been given early retirement , does that mean you will continue to look for Mas Selamat ? By yourself or with a group of vigilantes that I hope you will sponsor from your generous pension ? LOL

The latest reward money should actually come from your pockets Mr. Wong, and not from some private citizens. Making ill conceived statements does not impress the general public and shows you need to fire the bloke who is helping you with damage control. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have done it before &#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;really Mr. Wong Kan Seng ?<br />
It was the Indonesians , and you shamelessly take away the credit due to them.</p>
<p>Can we hold you to your word when you said &#8220;no matter how long it takes&#8221;, ie to find and capture Mas Selamat ?<br />
Well, assuming you have been given early retirement , does that mean you will continue to look for Mas Selamat ? By yourself or with a group of vigilantes that I hope you will sponsor from your generous pension ? LOL</p>
<p>The latest reward money should actually come from your pockets Mr. Wong, and not from some private citizens. Making ill conceived statements does not impress the general public and shows you need to fire the bloke who is helping you with damage control. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go fly a kite, WKS. You are obsolete in the eyes of the public and a waste of taxpayers&#039; money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go fly a kite, WKS. You are obsolete in the eyes of the public and a waste of taxpayers&#8217; money.</p>
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