As usual,there is an apparent gap between what the leader preaches,and what happens on the ground.
As to the question why the burmese partiots are denied entry back here,the answer is: lack of transparency.

I have never really given local govt agencies much respect.
Reason….they do things without using much of their brains.

Kevin

Perhaps we should leave out their ID numbers? May invite unnecessary pranks by some mischievous individuals looking for some cheap thrills or infamy – something that they do not need at this difficult time.

Note: Name and ID can be used for account changes with telcos for example.

We should welcome FTs, so they say.

Various blogs have posted the same media release with the full ID number early today.

Think “account changes with telcos for example” requires DOB, address etc!?

Ganga,

Thanks for the suggestion. We’ve taken them off.

Just shows that even foreigners have to follow the rules in Singapore. Very sorry for the 6 people who are affected.

Unfortunately, it looks like they have become victims of a bunch of bureaucratic idiots who knows only how to follow the law. It looks as if the authorities are practicing a policy of appeasement to the generals in Myanmar. And as we all know, appeasement will only encourage the bullies to become bigger bullies. I feel very sorry for the victims. I also feel very sorry for Singapore…

Well I feel for them, but in a way they deserved it. If ure a foreigner, better observe the damn rules. Its quite blatant how anal our gov can be with such outdoor protests.

Dont need to make a mountain out of a molehill, its only a handful, its a good enough lesson to the rest besides the burmese.

The China-born Falungong members here do the same but the police and ICA don’t bother them. Why? Coz they’re ethnic Chinese?

Those China-born Falungong members seem to got the same treatment, just that we are not aware of most cases.

Here is an example of Falungong members caught by Singapore law:

27 April 2001
Case of Falungong Practitioners Arrested on 31 Dec 2000, Press Release from SIR, 27 Apr 01
Thirteen foreigners and two Singaporeans were arrested on 31 December 2000 at MacRitchie Park for holding an illegal assembly. The 15 adults charged comprised 9 males and 6 females aged between 21 and 40. Only 2 are Singapore citizens. Of the 13 foreigners, 5 are permanent residents and the others hold various Passes/Permits

2 Seven – Li Ying, Hu Jian, Ang Chee Pheng, Xiong Changlei, Gao Hao, Wu Guorui and Xiong Shouyong – were sentenced to a jail sentence of one month for obstructing public servants from carrying out their duty, with the Courts taking into consideration their participation in an illegal assembly. The rest – Chen Hong Mei, Ng Chye Huay, Kang Cui Wei, Ma Xiao, Zhen Hanfei, Zhang Zhao Pei, Xu Dong and Dong Yuexing – were fined $ 1,000 each on the charge of participating in an assembly without a permit with the obstruction charge taken into consideration.

Upholding Law and Order
3 Registered societies, including the Falun Buddha Society (Singapore), are free to carry out their activities in Singapore, provided that the activities do not break any Singapore laws. However, when the activities of a group, or of any individual for that matter, contravene our laws or are prejudicial to public peace, welfare or good order, the Government must act to uphold the law and maintain the peace. This is no different from what Governments in other countries would do.

Immigration Status
Permanent Residents

4 Obstructing public servants from carrying out their duty is a serious offence. Of those convicted of the obstruction charge, Ms Li Ying will have her permanent resident status revoked and be asked to leave Singapore because of her active involvement in various illegal gatherings for which she was previously warned.

5 The other four permanent residents will be allowed to stay in Singapore on the condition of good conduct. They are:a) Mr Gao Haob)Mr Hu Jianc)Ms Chen Hongmei d)Mr Dong Yuexing If they breach the condition of good conduct, they will have their permanent resident status revoked and will subsequently be asked to leave Singapore.

Social Visit Pass (SVP) holder

6 For Ms Ma Xiao, who was fined for participating in an illegal gathering, she will be allowed to stay here on her SVP, subject to good conduct.

Student’s Pass holders

7 The Student’s Passes of those who were sentenced to jail for obstructing public servants and were previously warned for an offence of assembly without permit, will be cancelled. This is because they have breached the conditions specified in the Student’s Pass. The conditions are attached at Appendix A. The two Student’s Pass holders are:a)Mr Xiong Changleib)Mr Xiong Shouyong

8 For Mr Wu Guo Rui whose Student’s Pass had earlier expired and was staying in Singapore on SVP for the purpose of the court case, his SVP will not be renewed.

9 The other two students who were fined for participating in an illegal assembly will be allowed to continue studying here, subject to good conduct. They are:a) Mr Zhang Zhao Pei b) Ms Zhen Hanfei

Work Permit holder and Employment Pass holder

10 Mr Xu Dong, an Employment Pass holder, will be allowed to continue to stay in Singapore on his work pass, subject to good conduct

11 Ms Kang Cui Wei, whose Work Permit was cancelled by her employer, has left Singapore.

12 Similarly, for those whose immigration passes have been cancelled or are not renewed, SIR will issue a Special Pass for them to settle their personal matters before leaving Singapore. They can travel to any country.

13 For clarification, the media may contact Mr Lee Boon Hwee at Tel: 3916190 or fax their queries to Fax: 2987869.

END OF NEWS RELEASE

Singapore Immigration & Registration
27 Apr 2001

APPENDIX A
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IMPORTANT NOTICE
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1. This Pass is issued subject to the condition that the holder thereof shall not:-(a)be engaged in any form of employment or in any business, profession or occupation in Singapore whether paid or unpaid, without the consent in writing of the Controller of Immigration;(b)be proposed for adoption in any adoption proceedings commenced in Singapore;(c)be involved in any criminal or drug offences in Singapore; and(d)enter or be retained as a student in any other school/institution other than that specified overleaf.

2. This Pass shall cease to be valid if the holder thereof fails to enter or to be retained as a student in the school/institution specified overleaf.

3. This Pass has to be produced for every extension.

sarek_home, you’d be surprised how silly the call centre folks can be at times. Once my bro-in-law was checking on something over the phone with one telco on my behalf and the staff just gave out my personal details without verifying if the person they were talking to was me. And my bro-in-law was not even trying to impersonate me or anything like that.

And although the information is available elsewhere, why should TOC have to take the blame if a prankster chose to claim he got the info here first. Although the onus is on the persons who released their press statement, my purpose was to limit any possible blame on TOC, hope that clarifies my position.

I have no sympathy for these leeches for enjoy free education from our government, take away jobs from Singaporeans, and still protest in Singapore.

One less FT, the better!

[[ The other four permanent residents (China nationals) will be allowed to stay in Singapore on the condition of good conduct. ]]

That’s the point Enough was trying to make. PRCs get fined but are allowed to stay but the Burmese who were given warnings are booted out once their passes/permits expire.

I feel some sympathy for these burmese as they seem caught between countries that dont want them.

But end of the day i feel we owe them nothing.

Im sorry but I think alot of those that support their cause are being hypocrits.

One moment we decry the government’s liberal FT policy of giving out sponsorships to foreigners and letting them enjoy life in singapore without doing NS, and the next moment we are saying give them all the privileges of citizenship.

DISCLAIMER

My fellow Burmese patriots and I DO NOT ask from Singapore government:
- the right to stay but the rationale for non-renewal of our passes/permits;
- favors but fairness; and
- mercy but magnanimity.

Myo Myint Maung

To TPM and the like,

I’m sorry if my fellow Burmese patriots and I have ever upset you and your government by failing to be law-abiding even at the expense of our conscience. Sometimes, it is very hard to be both law-abiding and at the same time morally right in Singapore.

Myo Myint Maung

“Sometimes, it is very hard to be both law-abiding and at the same time morally right in Singapore.”
nicely said, myo myint maung. :)

FT issues aside, i think ICA should give a reason for their actions. I think there’s an admin law case here.

Myo Myint Maung,

Please spare us your self-righteous portrait of “brave burmese patriots fighting the junta and PAP regimes”.

If this were Burma, your asses would be in a prison up some mountain. Will there be an explaination given to you?

Our government is bureaucratic, autocratic, technocratic…etc…. but there must be something that attracted your 100k strong community here. Oh yes, jobs, education,…. opportunities taken away from singaporeans.

Please use your freedoms to go eslewhere. I will fight for my own thank you very much.

Reply to local sg patriot,
You should ask your government for all foreigner to out from your country if you think all foreign are taking job.
I don’t think so you will ask for that if you have brain.
I wanna see singapore servive without foreigner.

Come on now, lets not turn this into some foreigners versus Singaporean spat. The issue here is the transparency and integrity of our SG govt.

It is fair to ask or appeal for reasons about their application rejection.

Let’s have some respect for each other.

Reply To burmasupporter

Singapore do not need just foreigners but useful foreign professionals, and you Burnese certainly cannot be considered under useful foreign professionals if you are only here to satisfy your own political agenda.

If you think you are so brave, go back to your own country and fight it out, just like many of your respected and noble compatriots had done so and lay their precious life for their beliefs and cause.

Do not use Singapore as your base, you are not welcome here, you have no rights to carry out your activities here and Singapore is NOT YOUR country.

You can be treated like respected members of our society if you chose to respect the law of Singapore, or you can be treated as carbage, shit and rubbish if you think you are above the law just because you think you are a foreigner!

By the way, we need foreigners, but we do not need Burmese like you. Singapore will definitely be able to survive without Burmese idiots like you!!!

I would like to see your rejection letter

pls do not fight against each other whether you are singaporeans or foreigners, we are talking about issues of the country that need to be rectified and not about you people, so stop all these finger pointings.