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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20305</link>
		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Competent politicians, such as ministers and trade union leaders,  should have no issue for facing competition, even if Singapore is currently facing high inflation. Only in such a situation then we Singaporeans can indeed evaluate whether PAP still holds the electoral mandate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Competent politicians, such as ministers and trade union leaders,  should have no issue for facing competition, even if Singapore is currently facing high inflation. Only in such a situation then we Singaporeans can indeed evaluate whether PAP still holds the electoral mandate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kimmel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20170</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pap is plain scared cause they will certainly lose big in the by-election... no guts, thats wat they are..  lousy dictator party.!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pap is plain scared cause they will certainly lose big in the by-election&#8230; no guts, thats wat they are..  lousy dictator party.!</p>
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		<title>By: 冰冻三尺 非一日之寒</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20139</link>
		<dc:creator>冰冻三尺 非一日之寒</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only say these:
朗朗乾坤 清天何在
恶人之有恶人磨

(sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only say these:<br />
朗朗乾坤 清天何在<br />
恶人之有恶人磨</p>
<p>(sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: Student A</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20137</link>
		<dc:creator>Student A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When my form teacher in BBSS passed away my principal get us a new form teacher (not relief Form Teacher) immediately. Sad to see BB can have only a relief MP.
LSL!  you are worse than my principal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When my form teacher in BBSS passed away my principal get us a new form teacher (not relief Form Teacher) immediately. Sad to see BB can have only a relief MP.<br />
LSL!  you are worse than my principal.</p>
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		<title>By: Our Law</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20124</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a most damning indictment, Moore said that Lee has &#039;lived a lie about the detainees for too long, giving the Party the impression that he was pressing for their release while, in fact, agreeing in the ISC that they should remain in detention.&#039;

&quot;Lee is probably very much attracted to the idea of destroying his political opponents. It should be remembered that there is behind all this a very personal aspect. He claims he wishes to put back in detention the very people who were released at his insistence , the people who are intimate acquaintances, who have served in his government, and with whom there is a strong sense of political rivalry which transcends ideological differences.&quot;

- Lord Selkirk, 
British Commissioner to Singapore

Read the above somewhere, it just shows like father like son</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a most damning indictment, Moore said that Lee has &#8216;lived a lie about the detainees for too long, giving the Party the impression that he was pressing for their release while, in fact, agreeing in the ISC that they should remain in detention.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;Lee is probably very much attracted to the idea of destroying his political opponents. It should be remembered that there is behind all this a very personal aspect. He claims he wishes to put back in detention the very people who were released at his insistence , the people who are intimate acquaintances, who have served in his government, and with whom there is a strong sense of political rivalry which transcends ideological differences.&#8221;</p>
<p>- Lord Selkirk,<br />
British Commissioner to Singapore</p>
<p>Read the above somewhere, it just shows like father like son</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 07:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The election department should be deciding whether there should be a election or not and not the PM as it is conflict of interest.&quot;

Can that happened ? Every department is under the control of FamilLee, whether directly or indirectly.  Papa Lee can just come out suddenly and give his final verdict. Remember the SIA pilot wage incident. Even more importantly for election where this is where the control of $$$$$$ is. Give them mandate and they find ways to dig money out from citizen eg Increase GST to help the poor, POOR MINISTERs. For them, they just accept that there is no need to ask the citizen for opinion regarding $$$$.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The election department should be deciding whether there should be a election or not and not the PM as it is conflict of interest.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can that happened ? Every department is under the control of FamilLee, whether directly or indirectly.  Papa Lee can just come out suddenly and give his final verdict. Remember the SIA pilot wage incident. Even more importantly for election where this is where the control of $$$$$$ is. Give them mandate and they find ways to dig money out from citizen eg Increase GST to help the poor, POOR MINISTERs. For them, they just accept that there is no need to ask the citizen for opinion regarding $$$$.</p>
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		<title>By: Our Law</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-20120</link>
		<dc:creator>Our Law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 06:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The election department should be deciding whether there should be a election or not and not the PM as it is conflict of interest. Oops, the election dept is under the PMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The election department should be deciding whether there should be a election or not and not the PM as it is conflict of interest. Oops, the election dept is under the PMO.</p>
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		<title>By: lich</title>
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		<dc:creator>lich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 09:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>u never know, they might take 14000 divide by 4 and give 3500 extra per month for each of the MPs for doing extra work. no cost savings afterall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>u never know, they might take 14000 divide by 4 and give 3500 extra per month for each of the MPs for doing extra work. no cost savings afterall!</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Poll_vs_Referendum:

Technically, a poll is an informal and &quot;raw&quot; survey of the opinions of the people on a particular issue. They typically have sample sizes too small to be representative of the population, and they are normally not statistically balanced to the population profile either (e.g. distribution of age in sample is different from that of population). Usually, polls just give an indication of the feel of the population, and cannot be taken too seriously in most cases.

A referendum is more formal and proper. In principle, a referendum is a poll with the sample to be the population. That is to say, the entire population is polled. Very clearly, a referendum takes quite an amount of planning and logistic to carry out.

In a sense, a referendum is an election, but one must be careful about how we define an election. A referendum asks the voter to choose, directly, whether a particular proposal will become the law. In contrast, the election, as usually referred to, asks the voters to choose candidates for political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Poll_vs_Referendum:</p>
<p>Technically, a poll is an informal and &#8220;raw&#8221; survey of the opinions of the people on a particular issue. They typically have sample sizes too small to be representative of the population, and they are normally not statistically balanced to the population profile either (e.g. distribution of age in sample is different from that of population). Usually, polls just give an indication of the feel of the population, and cannot be taken too seriously in most cases.</p>
<p>A referendum is more formal and proper. In principle, a referendum is a poll with the sample to be the population. That is to say, the entire population is polled. Very clearly, a referendum takes quite an amount of planning and logistic to carry out.</p>
<p>In a sense, a referendum is an election, but one must be careful about how we define an election. A referendum asks the voter to choose, directly, whether a particular proposal will become the law. In contrast, the election, as usually referred to, asks the voters to choose candidates for political office.</p>
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		<title>By: meesiamhumpty</title>
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		<dc:creator>meesiamhumpty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>32) Jonathan on September 1st, 2008 10.44 pm 

Is referendum a taboo?

if so , is it banned?

if not, why not in books?

i am clueless. nice to meet you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32) Jonathan on September 1st, 2008 10.44 pm </p>
<p>Is referendum a taboo?</p>
<p>if so , is it banned?</p>
<p>if not, why not in books?</p>
<p>i am clueless. nice to meet you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was once a referendum in 1961 or 1962, as to the TERMS as which to join malaysia.

i think you&#039;d have learnt it in history.

there were three options. all three involved different forms of joining malaysia. so if you were not happy to join malaysia, you had no voice then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was once a referendum in 1961 or 1962, as to the TERMS as which to join malaysia.</p>
<p>i think you&#8217;d have learnt it in history.</p>
<p>there were three options. all three involved different forms of joining malaysia. so if you were not happy to join malaysia, you had no voice then.</p>
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		<title>By: Poll_vs_Referendum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Poll_vs_Referendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a student.
I like to find out, 
in a democratic society based on justice and equality, so as to achieve....
is a Poll = a Referendum ?
Has any of you very intelligent person out there ever experienced a Referendum so fundamental in a Democracy?
I think a election is a form of referendum. But other than that, have anyone still alive in spore ever experienced a Referendum?

wow, spore so stedi boon bi bi and 1st world  siah .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a student.<br />
I like to find out,<br />
in a democratic society based on justice and equality, so as to achieve&#8230;.<br />
is a Poll = a Referendum ?<br />
Has any of you very intelligent person out there ever experienced a Referendum so fundamental in a Democracy?<br />
I think a election is a form of referendum. But other than that, have anyone still alive in spore ever experienced a Referendum?</p>
<p>wow, spore so stedi boon bi bi and 1st world  siah .</p>
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		<title>By: No Excuse for Lack of Talent</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-19893</link>
		<dc:creator>No Excuse for Lack of Talent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 11:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingpong gals have proven that foreigner can represent spore after being granted citizenship certificate and in as short as 1 year can represent spore in the largest event in the world.

Likewise, I like to firmly state that the Opposition should never give excuse that there is a lack of talent . Talent can be welcomed from overseas.
Talents can be foreigners providing strategies for campaigns, Blogging, counter cybersquad, counter anything, for the better of the nation.

So, lets be clear that even if the majority does not want to join the opposition, due to extreme pragmatism or not, the opposition should know that they have access to the world of talents to help them succeed, to do what they are currently weak in. FT can play supporting but strong role in their quest for the majority . Apply and see if get approved lor.

what is the harm?

regards
Mee Siam goh-song.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingpong gals have proven that foreigner can represent spore after being granted citizenship certificate and in as short as 1 year can represent spore in the largest event in the world.</p>
<p>Likewise, I like to firmly state that the Opposition should never give excuse that there is a lack of talent . Talent can be welcomed from overseas.<br />
Talents can be foreigners providing strategies for campaigns, Blogging, counter cybersquad, counter anything, for the better of the nation.</p>
<p>So, lets be clear that even if the majority does not want to join the opposition, due to extreme pragmatism or not, the opposition should know that they have access to the world of talents to help them succeed, to do what they are currently weak in. FT can play supporting but strong role in their quest for the majority . Apply and see if get approved lor.</p>
<p>what is the harm?</p>
<p>regards<br />
Mee Siam goh-song.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackson Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This particular objection to a by-election caught my interest:

&lt;i&gt;In my opinion, the only credible reason against holding a by-election is the one expressed by MP Hri Kumar. He was concerned that MPs, especially minority-race MPs,  would be bestowed with “extraordinary powers, including the power to force a by-election.”&lt;/i&gt;

In rebuttal to this, you&#039;ve raised two possible solutions:

1) hold a by-election only when an MP dies,
2) hold a referendum on whether a by-election should be held.

The first, in my opinion, can be rather problematic because it contradicts one of the main reasons why we should have a by-election in the first place, namely, that the constituency needs a representative in Parliament, and this should apply regardless to the manner in which the seat is vacated.

The second, while appearing fine in principle, seems a bit excessive in terms of logistics. I mean, it&#039;s like arranging an election twice (assuming the people voted for a by-election in the referendum); to people who places a lower priority in voting, this may become a double hassle for them.

However, in any case, I doubt this objection is all that vital to the entire debate anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This particular objection to a by-election caught my interest:</p>
<p><i>In my opinion, the only credible reason against holding a by-election is the one expressed by MP Hri Kumar. He was concerned that MPs, especially minority-race MPs,  would be bestowed with “extraordinary powers, including the power to force a by-election.”</i></p>
<p>In rebuttal to this, you&#8217;ve raised two possible solutions:</p>
<p>1) hold a by-election only when an MP dies,<br />
2) hold a referendum on whether a by-election should be held.</p>
<p>The first, in my opinion, can be rather problematic because it contradicts one of the main reasons why we should have a by-election in the first place, namely, that the constituency needs a representative in Parliament, and this should apply regardless to the manner in which the seat is vacated.</p>
<p>The second, while appearing fine in principle, seems a bit excessive in terms of logistics. I mean, it&#8217;s like arranging an election twice (assuming the people voted for a by-election in the referendum); to people who places a lower priority in voting, this may become a double hassle for them.</p>
<p>However, in any case, I doubt this objection is all that vital to the entire debate anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our PM Mr. Lee HL said in a recent clarification that as long as there is going to be ONE MPs left in the GRC, there is no need for by-election. This is a load sharing system, you vote for the party, not the individual.

What does this mean?

1. Since GRCs only need 1 MP, then we should only have 1 MP per GRC. 
2. MPs in the GRC should only get 1 allowance. If there are 7 MPs in one GRC, then each MP should get 1/7th of the MP allowance.
3. There should NOT be any more focus of the credentials of the MPs (i.e. whether they are university graduates or not), because we are voting the party and only 1 MP is actually working... So we can put 1 MP, 2 monkeys, 3 cats, 1 cow. They are all elected and it doesn&#039;t mean a thing, right?
4. Those MPs in the GRC should have their voting rights in the parliament divided up. I.e. (if any MP is from a 6 man GRC, his vote should only be 1/6)
5. NCMPs are practically useless, because whatever they selected are almost always shot down because they have no votes. So they can do a &quot;show&quot;, but is practically useless.

Are these views correct?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our PM Mr. Lee HL said in a recent clarification that as long as there is going to be ONE MPs left in the GRC, there is no need for by-election. This is a load sharing system, you vote for the party, not the individual.</p>
<p>What does this mean?</p>
<p>1. Since GRCs only need 1 MP, then we should only have 1 MP per GRC.<br />
2. MPs in the GRC should only get 1 allowance. If there are 7 MPs in one GRC, then each MP should get 1/7th of the MP allowance.<br />
3. There should NOT be any more focus of the credentials of the MPs (i.e. whether they are university graduates or not), because we are voting the party and only 1 MP is actually working&#8230; So we can put 1 MP, 2 monkeys, 3 cats, 1 cow. They are all elected and it doesn&#8217;t mean a thing, right?<br />
4. Those MPs in the GRC should have their voting rights in the parliament divided up. I.e. (if any MP is from a 6 man GRC, his vote should only be 1/6)<br />
5. NCMPs are practically useless, because whatever they selected are almost always shot down because they have no votes. So they can do a &#8220;show&#8221;, but is practically useless.</p>
<p>Are these views correct?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i see a glimmer of hope here.

TNP ran a story about how people wanted a by-election.

the media has always played a very important role in any society. yet this media ran a story that appears contary to PAP interests.

Is the singaporean media really loosening up? 

Or is this a way to get us to trust the media, so that some real big shit can be kept under wraps? 

the media appears fair to me (is it doing a good acting job?), and most importantly, most singaporeans take what it says without any pinches of salt. this could hinder the growth of civil society in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i see a glimmer of hope here.</p>
<p>TNP ran a story about how people wanted a by-election.</p>
<p>the media has always played a very important role in any society. yet this media ran a story that appears contary to PAP interests.</p>
<p>Is the singaporean media really loosening up? </p>
<p>Or is this a way to get us to trust the media, so that some real big shit can be kept under wraps? </p>
<p>the media appears fair to me (is it doing a good acting job?), and most importantly, most singaporeans take what it says without any pinches of salt. this could hinder the growth of civil society in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Jumbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jumbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GRC is bad, those in the group cannot standup for himself. This is not the kind of leadership we want. Individual has to get his own merit to be elected as MP. If this is not revert to one constituency to one MP, I think , next stage will be Singapore GRC. like the Bush says, either you are with us or against us! Only one person will have a say in anything and everything!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GRC is bad, those in the group cannot standup for himself. This is not the kind of leadership we want. Individual has to get his own merit to be elected as MP. If this is not revert to one constituency to one MP, I think , next stage will be Singapore GRC. like the Bush says, either you are with us or against us! Only one person will have a say in anything and everything!!</p>
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		<title>By: Leong Sze Hian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leong Sze Hian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold by-election - run risk of losing?

Don&#039;t hold by-election - may antagonise more voters - may lose more votes to opposition in next general election

Haven&#039;t they learnt anything from the Malaysian experience!

Start loosening up, loose a bit now - otherwise risk losing more in next general election</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold by-election &#8211; run risk of losing?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold by-election &#8211; may antagonise more voters &#8211; may lose more votes to opposition in next general election</p>
<p>Haven&#8217;t they learnt anything from the Malaysian experience!</p>
<p>Start loosening up, loose a bit now &#8211; otherwise risk losing more in next general election</p>
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		<title>By: anony</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-19670</link>
		<dc:creator>anony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 10:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is a by-election now no doubt the PAP will lose by landslide because the political winds of change that is sweeping our region is very strong.  First it has happened in Malaysia and now it is coming to Singapore.  Not holding the by-election will only prolong the agony of an unpopular govt for a short while, but it cannot kill the winds of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is a by-election now no doubt the PAP will lose by landslide because the political winds of change that is sweeping our region is very strong.  First it has happened in Malaysia and now it is coming to Singapore.  Not holding the by-election will only prolong the agony of an unpopular govt for a short while, but it cannot kill the winds of change.</p>
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		<title>By: lau lan lee</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/by-election-denial-a-sad-case-of-irony/comment-page-1/#comment-19634</link>
		<dc:creator>lau lan lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seems like our voice is never heard. my guess is that we have to wish for more &#039;drop dead&#039; cases in jrg GRC before we have by-election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seems like our voice is never heard. my guess is that we have to wish for more &#8216;drop dead&#8217; cases in jrg GRC before we have by-election.</p>
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