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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 34</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Weekly Roundup: Week 34</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] be relaxed &amp; Political films to be allowed - the(new)mediaslut: SG PM reading this blog? - TOC: Good effort, but much more substance needed - My sketchbook: Scrutinising the Rally speech - Mr Brown: Summary of this year’s National Day [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] be relaxed &amp; Political films to be allowed &#8211; the(new)mediaslut: SG PM reading this blog? &#8211; TOC: Good effort, but much more substance needed &#8211; My sketchbook: Scrutinising the Rally speech &#8211; Mr Brown: Summary of this year’s National Day [...]</p>
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		<title>By: loop</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/good-effort-but-much-more-substance-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-18339</link>
		<dc:creator>loop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 03:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should have a PAP forum or blogspot for citizens to comment &amp; vote on policies &amp; issues before they are implemented.</description>
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		<title>By: kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid question:  Why is it that MOE will only respond to questions by people (asking for general information about schools) who wish to remain anonymous?  Questions like:  Is it compulsory for secondary schools to seek parents&#039; permission for a child&#039;s/student&#039;s school activities by way of consent form or is verbal passing of message (from teacher to student and from student to parents) sufficient?  

Why can&#039;t MOE be more transparent?  I am sure they have the answers for questions such as &quot;this&quot; regardless of what school the student is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid question:  Why is it that MOE will only respond to questions by people (asking for general information about schools) who wish to remain anonymous?  Questions like:  Is it compulsory for secondary schools to seek parents&#8217; permission for a child&#8217;s/student&#8217;s school activities by way of consent form or is verbal passing of message (from teacher to student and from student to parents) sufficient?  </p>
<p>Why can&#8217;t MOE be more transparent?  I am sure they have the answers for questions such as &#8220;this&#8221; regardless of what school the student is in.</p>
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		<title>By: Extinct to Dodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Extinct to Dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeh, JFK said something familiar on putting country before self - difference is that JFK is not &quot;professionally paid &#039; to say such; he was saying from his heart and he got killed.

It will be interesting to find out how many Government people have residences overseas, children studying and &amp; remaining to work overseas ( &amp; we are made to listen to shit from ivory tower based NUS professor making light of things) and finally who will be taking the first flights out of Singapore when war breaks out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeh, JFK said something familiar on putting country before self &#8211; difference is that JFK is not &#8220;professionally paid &#8216; to say such; he was saying from his heart and he got killed.</p>
<p>It will be interesting to find out how many Government people have residences overseas, children studying and &amp; remaining to work overseas ( &amp; we are made to listen to shit from ivory tower based NUS professor making light of things) and finally who will be taking the first flights out of Singapore when war breaks out.</p>
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		<title>By: dodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if life is good in singapore, why are majority of people thinking of migrating overseas when they grow old ? time to wake up and do some soul-searching now !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if life is good in singapore, why are majority of people thinking of migrating overseas when they grow old ? time to wake up and do some soul-searching now !</p>
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		<title>By: dodo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 07:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leaders should not tell followers that &quot;if i can, you can&quot; - especially since they know that they have better life than most because they are &quot;the special/chosen ones&quot; living in the ivory tower. i don&#039;t blame them because they earn over $3m pa and i earn only $50k pa.  let them try for a year - rushing to work and taking crowded mrt trains and buses, going through kids&#039; homework after work, waking up early to make breakfast &amp; get kids ready for school, taking good care of parents and bringing them to see doctor at crowded polyclinics, etc .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leaders should not tell followers that &#8220;if i can, you can&#8221; &#8211; especially since they know that they have better life than most because they are &#8220;the special/chosen ones&#8221; living in the ivory tower. i don&#8217;t blame them because they earn over $3m pa and i earn only $50k pa.  let them try for a year &#8211; rushing to work and taking crowded mrt trains and buses, going through kids&#8217; homework after work, waking up early to make breakfast &amp; get kids ready for school, taking good care of parents and bringing them to see doctor at crowded polyclinics, etc .</p>
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		<title>By: Whitley-gate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whitley-gate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow wow choo, (read wild wild west, hehe)

watch out man, now they play soft ball, hard ball is no longer the name of the game, be very vey alert, unwritten rules have changed. is it coincidence - csj was called psycho, nair was sent to imh, whats next??

looks like now soft ball and psychology is a deadly concoction on the menu.

also it reminds me stories of crying wolf and laughing tiger !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow wow choo, (read wild wild west, hehe)</p>
<p>watch out man, now they play soft ball, hard ball is no longer the name of the game, be very vey alert, unwritten rules have changed. is it coincidence &#8211; csj was called psycho, nair was sent to imh, whats next??</p>
<p>looks like now soft ball and psychology is a deadly concoction on the menu.</p>
<p>also it reminds me stories of crying wolf and laughing tiger !!!</p>
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		<title>By: generalchoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>generalchoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder where the people who censor the speech in honglim will come from ? NParks? which is .... and the people involved .... which are ....roots eating is nice and comes with privileges?  too fanatic eyes blurred...bias is only subjective...knn is not cnn. knn means kontinue next night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder where the people who censor the speech in honglim will come from ? NParks? which is &#8230;. and the people involved &#8230;. which are &#8230;.roots eating is nice and comes with privileges?  too fanatic eyes blurred&#8230;bias is only subjective&#8230;knn is not cnn. knn means kontinue next night.</p>
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		<title>By: mediaexposure</title>
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		<dc:creator>mediaexposure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 04:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, Choo is really given enough media exposure by the mainstream press recently hor. well done. i wonder what is going on ?  aiyoh, pure coincidence only lah folks. dont think too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, Choo is really given enough media exposure by the mainstream press recently hor. well done. i wonder what is going on ?  aiyoh, pure coincidence only lah folks. dont think too much.</p>
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		<title>By: feedmetothefish</title>
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		<dc:creator>feedmetothefish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does one tries like hell, (with statistics?) every year in the month of the hungry ghosts, to glorify oneself, telling how much one and one&#039;s rich elite party has done and will do for Sinkies!

Yes, every 7 moon of the lunar year, we need to feed the hungry ghosts. In the same month, the son of the father also needs to feed his bloody hungry ego and paint himself a 10/10 report card for the world to see!

While most are sick and tired of his annual “mee siam mai hum”, he still triesvery hard to be a comedian. The one on “I (Govt) Not Stupid” was really stupid! The one on “Stop At 2″ really takes the cake! One up on his dad?

Then again, for $3.1million per annum (or is it $3.7M), he needs to show that that he is working harder and better than Bob Hope, Jerry Seinfeld, The 3 Stooges and George Bush put together.

With the &#039;arrogance, greed and fear breeding&quot; of the leaders followed by the veneered &quot;msm knows best&#039;  &amp;  &quot;carry boss&#039;s bollocks and looking down on you peasants&quot; reporting, we have created a culture and  &quot;to each is own, dog eat dog, don&#039;t mess with, but support PAP (even if you hate them)&quot; mentality for most.  A gracious society in Singapore? Tan Gu Gu (Wait Long Long)!

Look at the smile of PM and the the way the ministers talk down to the people (Eg. Bargain Hen&#039;s insult of 55&#039;s not being able to handle their own money with &quot;a fling here and there&quot; and Lim Sway Says &quot;increase pay of workers increases inflation&quot; crap) and you&#039;ll  know what I mean. 

Where money talks all the time with this greedy bunch, we need to &#039;Tan Gu Gu&#039; for a Gracious and Polite S&#039;porean Singapore. 

Good effort on the rally speech?  Lau Hokkien would say, ” Chui kong, lumpar song!”. For the benefit of those not into Hokien dialect, it means ” Mouth speaks, testicles (bollocks) feel good!”

More Substance? We are being drugged again!
 
Cheers,

feedmetothefish</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does one tries like hell, (with statistics?) every year in the month of the hungry ghosts, to glorify oneself, telling how much one and one&#8217;s rich elite party has done and will do for Sinkies!</p>
<p>Yes, every 7 moon of the lunar year, we need to feed the hungry ghosts. In the same month, the son of the father also needs to feed his bloody hungry ego and paint himself a 10/10 report card for the world to see!</p>
<p>While most are sick and tired of his annual “mee siam mai hum”, he still triesvery hard to be a comedian. The one on “I (Govt) Not Stupid” was really stupid! The one on “Stop At 2″ really takes the cake! One up on his dad?</p>
<p>Then again, for $3.1million per annum (or is it $3.7M), he needs to show that that he is working harder and better than Bob Hope, Jerry Seinfeld, The 3 Stooges and George Bush put together.</p>
<p>With the &#8216;arrogance, greed and fear breeding&#8221; of the leaders followed by the veneered &#8220;msm knows best&#8217;  &amp;  &#8220;carry boss&#8217;s bollocks and looking down on you peasants&#8221; reporting, we have created a culture and  &#8220;to each is own, dog eat dog, don&#8217;t mess with, but support PAP (even if you hate them)&#8221; mentality for most.  A gracious society in Singapore? Tan Gu Gu (Wait Long Long)!</p>
<p>Look at the smile of PM and the the way the ministers talk down to the people (Eg. Bargain Hen&#8217;s insult of 55&#8242;s not being able to handle their own money with &#8220;a fling here and there&#8221; and Lim Sway Says &#8220;increase pay of workers increases inflation&#8221; crap) and you&#8217;ll  know what I mean. </p>
<p>Where money talks all the time with this greedy bunch, we need to &#8216;Tan Gu Gu&#8217; for a Gracious and Polite S&#8217;porean Singapore. </p>
<p>Good effort on the rally speech?  Lau Hokkien would say, ” Chui kong, lumpar song!”. For the benefit of those not into Hokien dialect, it means ” Mouth speaks, testicles (bollocks) feel good!”</p>
<p>More Substance? We are being drugged again!</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>feedmetothefish</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
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		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I daydreamed that  the key to all the problems that Singaporean is facing is in the education system. If we can fix this problem, like revamping the timing of school hours, to the curriculum,(Gracious society, values and morals) to CCAs,(grooming our young for sports.less FTs) transport (ERP) and less stress for parents,(More children means less FTs) 
But after all, we have so many ministers throughout the years in Education with so much monies spent going around the world looking for the best which they claimed it was the best. The amount of inputs they brought to the ministry, I think it was just a dream. Back to my sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I daydreamed that  the key to all the problems that Singaporean is facing is in the education system. If we can fix this problem, like revamping the timing of school hours, to the curriculum,(Gracious society, values and morals) to CCAs,(grooming our young for sports.less FTs) transport (ERP) and less stress for parents,(More children means less FTs)<br />
But after all, we have so many ministers throughout the years in Education with so much monies spent going around the world looking for the best which they claimed it was the best. The amount of inputs they brought to the ministry, I think it was just a dream. Back to my sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Opening up is good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opening up is good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1) Tan Ah Kow on August 19th, 2008 3.13 am Forgive me for being cynical, I have heard this before oh since Goh Chok Tong days - “kindler, gentler”. Has there been really any opening up?&quot;

Ah Kow, some politicians are very good talkers and will make you feel very very good for you just to make a decision at the right &amp; most important moment for them to be business (in our case five years till the next election). 

It works on basic human  psychology  and it works almost all the time. Humans have this feel good short term memory sometimes to the dangerous extent of  masochistic extreme (e.g drugs, etc) on rewards / punishment. 

Let us give our hats to them also. They have applied this technique very well on us by combining carrot &amp; stick just at the right time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1) Tan Ah Kow on August 19th, 2008 3.13 am Forgive me for being cynical, I have heard this before oh since Goh Chok Tong days &#8211; “kindler, gentler”. Has there been really any opening up?&#8221;</p>
<p>Ah Kow, some politicians are very good talkers and will make you feel very very good for you just to make a decision at the right &amp; most important moment for them to be business (in our case five years till the next election). </p>
<p>It works on basic human  psychology  and it works almost all the time. Humans have this feel good short term memory sometimes to the dangerous extent of  masochistic extreme (e.g drugs, etc) on rewards / punishment. </p>
<p>Let us give our hats to them also. They have applied this technique very well on us by combining carrot &amp; stick just at the right time.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
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		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>/// 3) vincesgp on August 19th, 2008 5.29 am

Honestly, it is never easy to be in the govt these days with the complexities of the global environment and more literate and well-travelled population having access to up-to-min info. There will always be cynical and people who take issues with anything and everything. But is there such a perfect place? Maybe. I always look at bigger picture; having travelled much in my course of work. ///

vincesgp - good on you for being such a globe-trotting person with a macro perspective. Pray, tell me then, in all your gallivanting to the various corners of this planet, have you seen such obscene millions paid to ministers running a postage-stamp sized country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>/// 3) vincesgp on August 19th, 2008 5.29 am</p>
<p>Honestly, it is never easy to be in the govt these days with the complexities of the global environment and more literate and well-travelled population having access to up-to-min info. There will always be cynical and people who take issues with anything and everything. But is there such a perfect place? Maybe. I always look at bigger picture; having travelled much in my course of work. ///</p>
<p>vincesgp &#8211; good on you for being such a globe-trotting person with a macro perspective. Pray, tell me then, in all your gallivanting to the various corners of this planet, have you seen such obscene millions paid to ministers running a postage-stamp sized country?</p>
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		<title>By: "People no stupid too"</title>
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		<dc:creator>"People no stupid too"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 01:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The ball is openly on the Government&#039;s court this time- this time with &quot;Government no stupid&quot; as position stated upfront, it will be a very good follow up for government and people - timing is perfect run up to 2010 D-day. There is no room for &quot; I tell you this - but I do another &quot; as &quot;people no stupid too&quot;- the stage is set.  &quot; You have taken too much from me......&quot; (courtesy of Mr Brown&#039;s Love Song ) and playing psychology this time around will be very costly. 
Let us all really try to move on and be encouraging.

&quot;swan lah&quot;  for the past days of GCK&#039;s speeches, NKF, complacencies, salaries- let them have it  (they probably deserve it from now on if there are no more Mas Selamats) , etc, and watch PM - encourage him, engage him - email him, and pray for his health.

I am hopely this time around, otherwise there will be still &quot;Money No enough 3&quot; to enjoy. I have a good feeling - to get back the 100% trusting and admiring feeling I had long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ball is openly on the Government&#8217;s court this time- this time with &#8220;Government no stupid&#8221; as position stated upfront, it will be a very good follow up for government and people &#8211; timing is perfect run up to 2010 D-day. There is no room for &#8221; I tell you this &#8211; but I do another &#8221; as &#8220;people no stupid too&#8221;- the stage is set.  &#8221; You have taken too much from me&#8230;&#8230;&#8221; (courtesy of Mr Brown&#8217;s Love Song ) and playing psychology this time around will be very costly.<br />
Let us all really try to move on and be encouraging.</p>
<p>&#8220;swan lah&#8221;  for the past days of GCK&#8217;s speeches, NKF, complacencies, salaries- let them have it  (they probably deserve it from now on if there are no more Mas Selamats) , etc, and watch PM &#8211; encourage him, engage him &#8211; email him, and pray for his health.</p>
<p>I am hopely this time around, otherwise there will be still &#8220;Money No enough 3&#8243; to enjoy. I have a good feeling &#8211; to get back the 100% trusting and admiring feeling I had long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: kingfisher</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingfisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With his hand up like that, he looked like he was saying,&quot;Go forth and multiply!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With his hand up like that, he looked like he was saying,&#8221;Go forth and multiply!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Silence on the IBA incident implies they agree with IBA’s report.
I agree with netizens view that this govt reacts only to international pressure.&quot;

Which means that Dr Chee and his accomplices have been doing something right by  bringing international awareness of government oppression. For 4 decades, the PAP has been controlling to their advantages until the internet comes along. So will the strategy of the other opp party change accordingly to times or are they just want to play the same losing game to the ruling party ? 

No one ever win a game who rules are set and design to be advantagous to a particular player, even more so if it is the player who make them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Silence on the IBA incident implies they agree with IBA’s report.<br />
I agree with netizens view that this govt reacts only to international pressure.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which means that Dr Chee and his accomplices have been doing something right by  bringing international awareness of government oppression. For 4 decades, the PAP has been controlling to their advantages until the internet comes along. So will the strategy of the other opp party change accordingly to times or are they just want to play the same losing game to the ruling party ? </p>
<p>No one ever win a game who rules are set and design to be advantagous to a particular player, even more so if it is the player who make them.</p>
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		<title>By: sotong</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/good-effort-but-much-more-substance-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-18046</link>
		<dc:creator>sotong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My barber speaks Hokkien, highest std passed PSLE. He said don&#039;t believe the Cheng Hoo, they give you a drumstick, they take your whole chicken.&quot; In other words the NS song &quot;They give you 100 dollars and take back 99.&quot; Now have to revised to $101 or more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My barber speaks Hokkien, highest std passed PSLE. He said don&#8217;t believe the Cheng Hoo, they give you a drumstick, they take your whole chicken.&#8221; In other words the NS song &#8220;They give you 100 dollars and take back 99.&#8221; Now have to revised to $101 or more.</p>
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		<title>By: carexpert</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/good-effort-but-much-more-substance-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-18036</link>
		<dc:creator>carexpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Government lost revenue in Cars ?? like real... the increase in the number of cars will also increase the amount of $$ from HDB parking etc... Fuel... parking charges... all these translate into an increase in revenue...$$ Don&#039;t believe what is reported by the statistic expert... remember how he major in math in the first place..... by playing with numbers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Government lost revenue in Cars ?? like real&#8230; the increase in the number of cars will also increase the amount of $$ from HDB parking etc&#8230; Fuel&#8230; parking charges&#8230; all these translate into an increase in revenue&#8230;$$ Don&#8217;t believe what is reported by the statistic expert&#8230; remember how he major in math in the first place&#8230;.. by playing with numbers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: datingexpert</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/good-effort-but-much-more-substance-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-18034</link>
		<dc:creator>datingexpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr LHL , could you care to share your dating experiences with your wife and how you court her ? It would serve as an example to all the young men in Singapore. We would be so grateful. I was so impressed that you bothered to share with us how you change a diaper for you child. I bet there are some singaporean father out there who never changes diapers for their children....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr LHL , could you care to share your dating experiences with your wife and how you court her ? It would serve as an example to all the young men in Singapore. We would be so grateful. I was so impressed that you bothered to share with us how you change a diaper for you child. I bet there are some singaporean father out there who never changes diapers for their children&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: spin doctor</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/good-effort-but-much-more-substance-needed/comment-page-1/#comment-18033</link>
		<dc:creator>spin doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silence on the IBA incident implies they agree with IBA&#039;s report. 
I agree with netizens view that this govt reacts only to international pressure. 

It remains to be seen whether Lee Jr can effect change, not when the oldman is pulling the strings.
I would not go so far as to give Lee Jr  a  &#039;A&#039;  for his effort and I agree that there is no substance.  Well, I will only be impressed if Lee Jr can engage the international media and accept phone-in questions from citizens on neutral ground. The internet  has opened up a new world and the PAP&#039;s old methods of propaganda is becoming less effective. Being the kiasu, kiasi, kiasuay and kiamsiap characters that they are, they have no choice but to change tack.
Lee Jr should know better that action speaks louder than words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silence on the IBA incident implies they agree with IBA&#8217;s report.<br />
I agree with netizens view that this govt reacts only to international pressure. </p>
<p>It remains to be seen whether Lee Jr can effect change, not when the oldman is pulling the strings.<br />
I would not go so far as to give Lee Jr  a  &#8216;A&#8217;  for his effort and I agree that there is no substance.  Well, I will only be impressed if Lee Jr can engage the international media and accept phone-in questions from citizens on neutral ground. The internet  has opened up a new world and the PAP&#8217;s old methods of propaganda is becoming less effective. Being the kiasu, kiasi, kiasuay and kiamsiap characters that they are, they have no choice but to change tack.<br />
Lee Jr should know better that action speaks louder than words.</p>
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