..the difference between aunty lee and diva ivy singh lim (former president of netball association)…the latter delivered and earned the right to be “loud”…sadly, the former is loud for all the wrong reasons…including her favorite “jum bun” anecdote. Even if you want to be an Empress Dowager…play your ball correctly!

Seriously, politicians have no place in running sports federations, unless they were former athletes or sporting figures with great experience or achievement.

And MM Lee counts people like Lee Bee Wah as part of his vision of a Division one team member. He’s obviously senile and doesn’t know better anymore. If she and the insincere and incompetent fool, Wong Kan Seng are Division One, then Singapore’s future is really doomed.

Lee Bee Wah was born and educated up to A levels in M’sia.

Two points.

Can now understand why Malays in M’sia want to be dominant. Imagine if she became top M’sian politico.

Is she the kind of FT we want for S’pore, and in particular, a divison 1 govmen?

Dear LBW,

Thank you for making those callous statements in regard to the team manager of a team that just delivered a silver even before the team gets back to Singapore to celebrate their success. Where a gold is plainly out of reach, the silver is gold.

Maybe your infinite wisdom of guiding and developing table tennis in Singapore is backed by some insights of hidden depth, or maybe you are the sacrificial lamb in case of a poorer show in the next Olympics. If and when we do not retain the silver or earn a medal in 2012, we all know who we can point the finger at.

In any case, good luck to you, and good luck to your constituency. Thank goodness I did not move to Ang Mo Kio.

The most decent to do is to have the courage to admit one’s mistake for denting the national joy of 4.5 million people and gracefully fades away in the sporting scene! Really, this is a different cup of tea for an ignorant!

” she said it was not and added that “she just wanted to ‘let the matter rest’.”
What ? So fast move on ? She think she is the empress of Singapore or what ?

WEll, she taste back her own medicine one day by immediately remove her from the parliament without notifying her and give no reason for doing so. Remove her if she miss any of the people’s sesson and tell her that a a new team with a new CEO and technical director will replace her. Tell her she is welcome to apply for the MP position when gahmen ask for applications. The vacancy for brewing tea and coffee for MPs is opened and she can apply.

Now, what if Gao Ning is a Singaporean by birth, will she dare to do it as gahmen love sucking to foreigner and looking down on Singaporean ?

“Ms Lee, however, said that “Antony is welcome to apply for the position when we ask for applications.” (Straits Times). It is ironic that in her “bold” public act, what has been foregrounded is her personal cowardice and highhandedness.”

Such arrogancy can only be bleeded by PAP with LKY as role model.

People who go by the book will be judged by the same book.

” Using the personal pronoun in her interview with the Straits Times, she said: “I have a new team and will have a new CEO and technical director”.

This tell me all this is planned and GaoNing’s case is used as a excuse and scapegoat to remove him. Now we need a new STTA president as well for the new team.

From various local papers, which of course support the establishments, we can already discern the implosion – the mgmt fiasco with Gao Ning, and the subsequent worse faux pas by the politico.

With IOC member Mr Ng, and Chef de Mission Mr Tan apparently not pulling any punches, this infers the distaste must run very deep.

I read that she (Mrs)Lee) has her own blog. Does anyone know where ? I’d like to read more to comment further.

Read the whole issue, I come to the conclusion that LBW is not even fit to be a class monitor. How did she become a Member of Parliament?

My views rest on the following:

a) The dismissal of Anthony: Is totally against the golden rule of law. The RIGHT TO BE HEARD was not adhered at all. LBW acted like an idiot.. Yes, I meant in the true sense of the word;

b) Then LBW said, :”Let the matter rest.” It shows that she does not have the minimum sense of responsibility, sense of PR. I cannot imagine how did she communicate with her constituents;

c) The she said Anthony can apply when they invite applications to fill the position. What? She is treating all of us, including her bosses in Istana, as idiots.

I recall that TOC sent out a interview team to cover JBJ’s party dinner; why did TOC did not send out a team to cover this story. Does TOC, apart from Choo’s writing, want to “let the matter rest”?

JY

Compare this episode with how Chinese officials handled the Liu Xiang issue. We do not only need world class sportman, we need world class sports officials who understand what the public expects of them.

This silly woman will forever remain in my mind for her nausea-inducing 世上只有PAP好during the last election (as a newbie).

So much for world-class sport management by LKY’s division one team. Youth Olympic ? My foot !
Can’t even have courtesy to inform people of dismissal. Gahmen must have look down on Singaporean. They are behaving as though they are god. Must burn joss stick to them for their protection and job security.

The headline in today’s ST says tonnes about her attitude: “Let’s move on, says Lee” . Anyone noticed that, increasingly, the MIW have been using these three words to avoid issues? Screw things up, just say sua-sua-kee and everyone is supposed to forgive you.

indeed i am shocked ! i am ashamed of her. obviously she does not know how to manage her emotions well to be an effective leader.

Last time we have “Uniquely Singapore” to promote Singapore, this time we have
“Singapore, let’s move on” to as a very good theme as it reflected the case of Mas Selamat, GST surplus, International Bar Association’s Human Rights Institute’s “conspiracy to do us in”.

As usual, always want to move on to cover backside and honest mistake.

Singapore may have lost the Gold medal for table tennis in the Olympic but she gain a Gold medal for EQ in sport management. For that we should thank Lee Bee Wah.

Guess what her next statement ? “Conspiracy to do us in” from her idol ?

Some ppl still don’t understand why the manager has to leave. A better explanation should be provided.

I am not sure if any of these comments have any effect on LBW. I am not sure if she even cares.

My reflection of this incident, plus the many other incidents over the last few years, shows that this so-called “Div 1 team” is full of technocratic, kiasu, cover-my-arse-first, finger-pointing, arrogant, elitist, out-of-touch individuals.

They seem to be more concerned about themselves, about achieving KPIs set on them, rather than doing anything for the greater good of Singapore or Singaporeans.

If they’re truly Div 1 and care about the Singaporeans and their folks in their wards, then these individuals should change our perception of them. i dont need to hear MM Lee or PM Lee telling me they’re good. They have to PROVE that they’re good. Respect is earned, not demanded.

I feel sorry for LBW.
She seems very naive in her actions; perhaps not really intentionally high handed.
But she is in for a rough time – of late the PAP seems to be trying to mellow down its “roughness” but here comes LBW again…….
I think she will not be around in Parliament or even as STTA’s president in due course.
This is tragic – it is indeed wrong timing for LBW and the PAP……….not for Manager Lee or Coach Liu

LBW has no EQ.

She is obviously trying to suck up to the players by being harsh on the officials, and project an image as a “people person”.

Fortunately, we can all see her true colours within a month. Hopefully she won’t do too much long term damage to the sport.

I think it’s time for her to “move on” too..

Let me also point out that it’s disingenuous to appoint MPs as heads of sports federations when they have no experience and probably no interest in it. It’s just another platform for them to play politics.

The exception is Teo Ser Luck, at least he’s an active triathlete.

As for Gao Ning, he’s just a cry baby. Yes, it’s unfortunate that no coach was present during his match. But he’s representing his country at the Olympics, surely the least he should do is try his best. But he didn’t even raise his paddle to return the service, and just gave the point away!

Both LBW and Gao Ning have behaved in disgraceful ways, no wonder they seem to get along so well.

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This is not first time in Singapore. I remember that there is a foreign bowling coach who is dismissed suddenly through SMS ! Really World-class and high-tech ! Look like only PAP is human, the rest isn’t human enough enough to worth respect.

Who is this LBW ? Is she qualified to be the president of STTA ? Can’t handle things don’t talk so much. Typical Pap style. We should give due respect to the team manager , without him, Spore would not be able to get a silver medal. This bloody LBW, is not a gracious person.

i didn’t vote for the PAP. i don’t understand why singaporeans voted for the PAP. don’t just complain abt our gahmen, take concrete steps! Don’t vote for the PAP lah. These arrogant, high-handed politicians need a clear message from Singaporeans that we have had enough of them telling us what to do.

Nice headline. LBW’s comments, and our coach’s comments that we had only a “10 % chance of winning against China” – suggests that we really must improve in many areas – from PR to motivation. PR as in public relations, not permanent residency.

Give Her a break! I am sure she must have her reasons! It has to be something really serious and urgent…or some reasoning that should be kept under wraps.
But I think this is of National interest, especially so much hype in encouraging the whole of Singapore to support the team!
I do hope the explanation is also made public… since Antony and the Table Tennis management have been embaressed in Public. Otherwise, there may be just some uncertainty floating in the air that could be “indicative”?

It’s still baffling, since we want to keep Mas Selemat who has not won us a medal, and he breaks out and leaves suddenly… and its Ok to punish the workers but not the leaders. Now the Table Tennis team (including Antony and all) wins a medal, and she wants them to break up and leave, against everybody’s understanding! Must be some kind of latest management strategy in motivation.

I am sure the STTA president can now claim that she presided over the Olympic medal winning team, no thanks to the existing management! She has to be fantastic as Singapore has not won anything for 40 years, until she stepped up to the plate as president. This is excellent for her Resume! I hope that the possible reason is that She is preparing to win the Gold in 2012 single handedly….don’t need foreign talent nor existing Management but her new team who agrees with and supports her 100%.

I just hope that her leadership style does not translate to her management of GRCs as well … otherwise the equivalent to AMK is that if residency can be terminated, the equivalent reasons given is that their services (votes) may no longer be required. Residents and the Estate management will be chosen by the new MP. Those kicked out will have to find your own way home… to China or India where your forefathers are from. We have only been seconded to Singapore! We can still apply for residency again in other parts. Anyway, the AMK GRC chose her and the AMK people voted for her… so no complaints please!

It will be interesting to know how many people will remember in 4 years time! “Let’s move on”.

The whole Ang Mo Kio GRC team is a very clownish team. Lets see:

Lee Hsien Loong – Mee Siam Mai Hum

Wee Siew Kim – Father of Wee “my elite face” Shu Min. Father Wee’s “apology” for defending his daughter worsened the matter then.

Inderjit Singh – Using a private conversation with James Gomes to go after James Gomes during the elections.

Lee Bee Wah – “Pang sai” in Parliament and now this.

The fifth member Lam Pin Min now better keep his mouth shut. That would be the wisest thing to do, now that all his team-mates have made fools of themselves.

Hope WP go back and contest AMK next elections. WP might get more votes next time.

She has IQ but no EQ!!!

“The fifth member Lam Pin Min now better keep his mouth shut. That would be the wisest thing to do, now that all his team-mates have made fools of themselves.”

Never mind that, he is still a silent clown. Remember it is a team’s effort, and that is what GRC is for !

I think she has ZERO EQ!!! I will sack her.

think TOC should create a HALL OF SHAME segment so that thru the years we can educate our children, grand children…etc not to commit the same faux pas!

PAP’s pragmatisim will be their downfall => Dispose those immediately who outlive their usefulness so to cut cost.

Can we do anything to show our disapproval of Ms Lee’s act? I damn feel like prote****g at STTA. She doesn’t think with her head I guess. Now our silver comes to nothing because of her. And the whole nations want an explaination while she tries to keep her mouth SHUT after saying untimely matters. She should have AT LEAST SHUT her mouth till after the celebration, though not that I agree with the firing.

Div 1? My blood is boiling…

Mr Siao Liao,

You mentioned Wee Siew Kim, Inderjit Singh and now this LBW all from AMK, PM Lee GRC. .

Would it be correct to assume that the party would assemble only the best team for PM Lee. It must be so, right?

If this is the best team, Oh my God… what happens to the rest of the GRCs???

JY

“If this is the best team, Oh my God… what happens to the rest of the GRCs???”

It is really the best team. The best team among the worse.

the entire team from AMK GRC should join the Circus de Soleil!

The damage have already been done, I am deeply sadden by this rude, arrogant, blind, reckless, incompetence and zero-EQ leader. As a women, I felt so shameful, she have just proved those men right, woman is no good leader. Non of the quality she demostrated proved herself as a deserved leader. She not only shamed the woman, but also set all other struggling Woman Leaders back at least a few miles.

No matter what good reasons or what wrong doing the other party did. Her behaviour is unacceptable at this time and in this manner. The damage she have done is not only on herself, but greatly on Singapore.

On one hand, our PM emphasized how important are talent needed in Singapore (be it foreign or local), on the other, this “SMART” lady openly demonstrate some very familar and typical leadership that drives away many genuine local and foreign talents that may have good contribution to Singaopore.

We may not be heard, and are always forced to be lead by the leaders that is not our choice, but this is my country, I have the right to voice out that she is definitely the kind of leader that I will not vote for. She is just lucky to be group with the PM to be elected, otherwise, she will not pass the election test on her own.

It’s clear that she need to be REMOVED just on the damage she have done, any further clarification is meaningless. It will be very interesting to see how our PM handled this incident and manage his team.

It’s puzzling indeed. Why did she do what she did?

As president of STTA she should be in the limelight instead, to claim the laurels of our first medal after 48 long fruitless years.

Only she knows, I hope.

The broom works on all smooth surfaces and low nap fabrics. Singapore

The things with GRCs :
- One person can screw up, but the rest of the team gets elected back to office
- One person can die, and no by-election is needed.

Scores of MP –> Dozens of GRCs -> FIve CDCs -> One Government. Might as well make Singapore one great big ‘GRC’. Easier to win that way.

I doubt the AMK slate is the strongest, but PM Lee is the anchor, and a strong anchor at that.

suddenly i realised she’s the female version of the other equally “kumpong jum bun” style MP…Ong Ah Seng. Musing over it…she’s not entirely useless…perhaps they should send her to other less refined areas like geylang.

This is what happened when :-

1) sports are mixed with politics
2) slipshod bureaucrats make hasty decisions
3) political parties become dominant and arrogant
4) biased officials rule the day

So much for Singapore sports and politics ! It really
makes a Big Joke out of our Olympic Silver Medal.

Only the PAP people are saying the politically correct things, e.g. ‘I do not have all the facts, so…’ If they don’t rebuke her, they are going to get political demerit points.

What facts do you need? It’s so straightforward. You don’t make these kind of announcements at a timing like this. Lee Bee Wah made a mess of this. And all she would say is ‘let’s move on’. Even our sports elder statesmen Ng Ser Miang and Tan Eng Liang disagreed with the way this whole thing is done. (Read Sunday Times 24/8 and ST 25/8)

I’ll make sure all the voters of AMK GRC remember this when the next election comes.

I am extremely disappointed at Lee Bee Wah, the current president of the STTA who showed no care for human feelings, and chose to pour cold water on the whole table tennis team and support staff at the wrong time and place. She gave no consideration for all the hard work behind the scenes, the strategic talent-scouting, the hours of hard training, and the great support and cheering of all involved in putting our table tennis team on the world stage, not to mention the large amount of money and resources that has been devoted to realising this 48 year-old dream. The silver represents the hard work, sweat and tears of the team, but also of many people behind the scenes over a period of years.

In contrast, the current head of the STTA, only having been appointed a month or so ago, literally came in at the last minute to steal all the limelight. Speaking personally, this does not bother me, as there has to be someone representing the STTA and thereby our country in the Beijing Olympics 2008. Furthermore, it may well be the case that she has plans in mind for the next Games in London in 2012, and is thinking of how to get another medal. That is fine with me.

However, I am very shocked by her behaviour which is not befitting of any organisation’s president. Why could she not just wait a while longer so that the whole country could celebrate first? All those that deserve credit should bask in their share of the glory and happiness before the release of such bombshells. Lee Bee Wah has really spoiled the party for many Singaporeans. I do not think that such a person with such deplorable levels of EQ, who shows no consideration for the feelings of individuals as well as for the national mood of Singapore can be a good leader at all. Lee Bee Wah should be sacked and a more able leader, who is equipped on all fronts, should be nominated and appointed with due diligence to plan for the Games ahead.

OPEN LETTER TO MR CHOO WEE KIANG,
Former President of STTA

Dear Mr Choo,

No one can deny the efforts that you have contributed to winning the Silver.
You and your team of colleagues had put in tremendous time and efforts in building STTA to what it is today. For reasons unknown to the public, you were replaced by LBW at the last general meeting.

I remember reading that you would be going to Beijing to support the team. Apart from a small interview by the media about a week ago, you have been left out of the limelight completely. Don’t tell me that this LBW has the able to tell the media to shut you out; or is there an invisible hand in doing so.

Please tell us the truth picture of the whole thing. You owe a duty to Singaporeans to tell us the truth.

JY

I think this latest twist of events is a confirmation that we should do away entirely with the rather “perverse” practice of luring foreign sportsmen with megabucks just to win medals for the government.

Li Jiawei wannabes will now think very hard whether to play under our flag. It just goes to show that despite their protestations about “foreign talents”, this government treats them like they treat everyone else, like commodities to be used, dumped and kicked out at their whim and fancy.

If I were them, since this government can treat me like BATA sports shoes (Buy And Throw Away), then the only reason I will ever play for them is that they agree to pay me megabucks. And don’t expect me to be grateful or loyal to the country after making big money, because I’d be under no illusion, that at any time if things went the other way, I’d be at risk of being cut.

I thought this premier league government should understand the basic reality that it “cuts” both ways?

If LBW is what MM Lee refer to the Div 1 team member, Singapore is screwed. She has no leadership quality, no EQ, no sense of justice. Just arrogance.

A leader must earn the respect of others. Not just do as she please because she is appointed as the President of a sport association. [Anyone how she is appointed as the President of Singapore Table Tennis Association?]

It is unprofessional to give an outburst in front of the media after the match without first finding out the fact of the matter.

It is unprofessional not to inform the manager that his contract is terminated without holding an inquiry of any wrong doing

It is total lack of management or leadership skills to announce to the press that the manager who has help Singapore getting a silver medal in half a century without recognising his contribution to the effort.

I am totally ashamed to have such a appointed leader to one of our beloved sport.

I watch the whole match and I would only said our player has no mental fitness and gave out too quickly when the game goes against him. Blaming the loss on not having a coach not present is all bullshit. I expect a world class player would take responsibility for his failure and learn from it.

Hey everyone, I’m calling for an urgent boycott of any Olympic homecoming celebrations today and anytime until this matter is satisfactorily closed. Spare thoughts for the team manager and head coach, how can they celebrate knowing they will be left without their respective jobs?! They should be feeling joyous and proud after helping the nation clinch an Olympic medal after 48 years. Who is Bee Wah and why is there a full-page advertisement in Straits Times today congratulating her ?? If I have your support, pls boycott any celebrations today. We can delay the celebrations til next week or later.

Hey everyone! I’m calling for a boycott of today’s Olympic homecoming celebrations. Spare some thoughts for the team manager and head coach. They should feel joyous and proud after helping us win an Olympic medal after 48 years, but how can they when they know they will soon be jobless!! Let’s boycott the celebrations until this matter is satisfactorily closed! We can celebrate later ….

At least LBW has a supporter from our TNP sportwriter Lim Han Ming “Lee knows what’s best for her team”. He urged all singaporean to let her do her job, she know best. Well LBW can take heart, she got a FAN in Mr Lim. If she knows what’s best, we will not even have so many forums and valid comments about her ability to lead and motormouth her comments. Obviously she can’t even get her timing right to motivate the team, and her action is more damaging to the morale. So Mr. Lim, you may want to apply for the Team Manger position in LBW team to deliver our GOLD in 2012. 2 wrongs don’t make it right. She should step down immediately, that would be the best move on of this issue.

Sports have long been politicized, monetised and incentivised. It is not wrong to say sports equal politics nowadays.

There are no more sporting spirits in the Modern World!

patriot

This is the first time I am commenting; felt so strong that I needed to write something as an ordinary layman on the street.. Agreed with most of Choo’s assessment on Ms Lee as this is what most would feel based on the newspaper reports so far.

The 1st impression I had after reading the newspaper was that Ms Lee lacks tact and realism. She got the timing absolutely wrong, choosing to dampen the entire nation’s celebration for the silver medal acquired by our women paddlers – unless she had craved the publicity and wanted to show who’s boss. But she certainly made the headlines for the wrong reasons. The matter should have been resolved behind STTA’s doors. To Ms Lee, it is impt to be humble. Being a people-elected leader does not means superiority above all. Take this as a lesson learned.

We should trust Lee Bee Wah to deliver the gold because she can cast herself as single and double player in next Olympic, and outshine any of the China players. She already start training hard for Olympic as shown in the picture
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_271708.html
We should give her a round of applause.

“There are no more sporting spirits in the Modern World!”
To be more specific
“There are no more sporting spirits in the Singapore World!”

“Lee knows what’s best for her team”.
Isn’t this what the old Lee always says and he end up moving on and disappear for good ?

Heard from some “Insider” LBW is a “kiss up kick down” kind of person.

Guys, give this LBW a break ok? It’s just bad timing – its the time of the month.

Div 1 politician handling a mammoth situation and big publicity – I am the first to applaud her!

Come on now, STTA presidency is set up for her to claim the medal credit. Now that she has scored, time to celebrate!!

Hoping to see this LBW around no longer than till the next GE but for now, bring some popcorns and soda.

I hope LBW does not show up at all and spoil the homecoming celebrations this evening. ..

I guess this is the way of showing who’s the boss, its just so unfortunate that it was on the expense of the national’s celebration of the first Silver Olympic medal in 48 years. Thank you Ms. Lee.

Due to the fact that Ms. Lee shoots her mouth, now whatever the STTA puts forward seemed to be excuses to save her from embarrassments. an reaffirming her mistakes

Anyone knows the Hokkien term used when lousy striker stumble upon an empty goal-mouth and scored?

Yup, its “Tai Kho”. Do you think 1 month in the job can turn the table tennis team into Olympic Silver Medalists? Personally I don’t. Well, let’s see if she has the shortest regime as the president in STTA history. Maybe then, we can really celebrate :)

The national badminton coach of Malaysia is offered with a “datukship” while it’s amusing to see that the table-tennis coach of Singapore is threatened with an “Axe”.

SACK HER.

This is a complete joke and I am certain that the repercussions are far from over.

These are the incidents that have increased my local political awareness in the last 2 years.

Div 1 team??? IMHO, not even fit for ‘C’ Division Boys/Girls caliber

Disgusting and disgraceful.

My opinion STTA should conduct a disclipine enquiry before announcing publicly to the media why there isnt a coach there when it should be one… As president of STTA, Lee, should ensure restraint her opinionated view and said there will be a need for further investigations by STTA… instead of announcing Anthony Lee contract will not be renewed and if he is interested in CEO job he can apply…

Hi Ms LBW,

Thank you for being honest and frank letting us know who you really are and what you are made of.

In your position, you must be very busy and I fully understand why you must go now.

Thank you for your time with STTA. Your contribution has been truly in no small portion and shall be in etched in our memories for a long time to come.

Bye!

Mr/Ms Smdoe,

It is 瞎眼鸡抓到虫, in hokkien is Chi Mei Kuay Tok Tio Tang.

First question: How did Lee Bee Wah get the job to be president of STTA? Was she a table-tennis player herself? What history does she have to be given the job?

Second question: Does she not know the procedure when it comes to dismissing employees? As president, she should know!

Third question: Why did the STTA change president about only one month before such a huge event like the Olympics? Again, what did Lee Bee Wah do to land the job JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS?

Fourth question: It’s the perennial question of accountability. It is HORRENDOUS to read in the Straits Times that Lee Bee Wah wants to “MOVE ON”. Is this the kind of Division One MPs we have from the PAP?

These are questions that need answers.

Any reporters dare to ask them?

aiyah – simple – hold another COI to find lim bee wah free from all guilt (PAP mp what)
then sack antony lee after that.
But seriously, if the new direction is to give more Singapore Born primary school and secondary students a higher CHANCE to play at olympic – I am supportive of her!!

When bringing up arguments in issues between our leaders and leaders from a neighbouring country, one can witness the LACK of emotional control, coherence, intelligent diplomacy and plain maturity of thought displayed by many of the leaders from the neighboring country… with a lack of such fundamental attributes, you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to imagine the sort of leadership qualities they possess.

but I realize here, she has not been brought up and educated in the formative years in S’pore … surely it is never easier to choose a capable and deserving president.

LKY please do not give her PB, this year. Thank you.

We had been asked to be gracious, forgiving and not to forget the past credits of our leaders in their mishandling of the security lapses that led to the escape of Mas Selemat but at the same time not only we could not do that to our team of Table Tennis Team head coach and manager whom had done us proud in bringing back a silver medal in the olympics after a long long wait of 48 years on whatever wrongs they may or may not have done, they have to be embarrassed this way over the public…What a joke and What a shame….This is my first time writing in to give my views as really I could not hold back my disappontment and the shock…

Only one month in the job and already a major blunder. Now we know what she is capable of. If i can meet all the players and officials in the open, i will shake everybody hands except hers!

Wa! she really kena condemned already!!!! So many replies. I wonder if shes regretting her decision now?

jy,

I doubt you’ll receive a reply from Choo Wee Kiang. If you do, it’ll be awesome.

Anyone wondered why Choo Wee Kiang was kicked out as President of STTA in the first place?

If Choo is the same ex-MP Choo Wee Kiang with some unsavoury history, could it be that some high-up leaders wanted him out of the way to save face and maintain clean image of STTA should it win anything in Beijing?

Instead of saving face, the the face now got splashed with a flying silver coated cake!

Even money and power cannot escape Murphy’s Law :)

So is the bitter sweet homecoming of STTA’s silver medalists, coaches and officials this evening a time to celebrate or mourn?

I remember Tan Howe Liang’s homecoming in 1960, though simple (and inexpensive) without any song and dance, was a pure celebration without any after taste or mixed feelings.

feedmetothefish

74) feedmetothefish on August 25th, 2008 5.11 pm

Yes the ex-STTA president is the former MP who resigned…but i’ve no idea why he was replaced recently…perhaps somebody can enlighten us of the real reason?

Why? Why? Lee Bee Wah, why can’t you just be abit more patient? At least wait after the triumphant homecoming celebrations of our table-tennis team before showing your high handedness.
Forget about the cry baby, Gao Ning. If he is good, even without a coach, he shouldn’t have scored 0-4 over an unknown player !
But our female paddlers, they surely deserve all the praises and celebrations for winning a silver medal for Singapore after almost 5 decades. Though I’m not a table-tennis fan,I watched the match they played against South Korea. They really played hard and won. I’m so proud of them and the head coach too!

In arguing issues, leaders of a certain neighboring country often show a LACK of emotional control, coherence, intelligent decision making and maturity of thought. You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know the sort of leadership qualities they possess…
I realize she was not educated in the formative years in S’pore… it should not be at all difficult to replace her with a deserving, capable & mature president…for the sake of S’pore’s sportsman & sportswomen.

With so many comments from various forums on LBW. She has already trying to “MOVE ON” on this issue. We been writing in view of given an answer. In fact she should be the one standing in for the enquiry of what her motormouth outburst and GRACEFULLY step down. This is where STTA will move on.
LBW please stand up and be counted now to start TALKING

Its not hard to imagine who will be Singaporean’s Most Hated Person 2008.

Let’s see if this matter will rest the “Singapore” way like it used to all the time when someone of LBW’s status make mistakes like this :)

Think a few more heads will roll to cover up the first mistake LBW made. Maybe LBW will axe LJW coz she spoke to the press about retiring after Beijing 2008, which I think she did not consult with LBW.

The manner she commented (in the aftermath of the men’s loss game) to the media and shown on the news is surely a disgrace to all educated engineers… to add salt to the wound, after airing her childish, loser comments, the news presenter mentioned the missing coach in question had been taken ill… hey even the news presenter is more smart and savvy

And yeah, her brilliant (div 1) idea to ensure S’pore’s continued success in table tennis.. introduce table tennis in the kindergardens and nursery school or preschool…such brilliant idea

Don’t play play.

Singapore MP Lee Bee Wah makes history with elite global award
Source : Straits Times – 25 July 2008

By Zakir Hussain

REASON TO SMILE: Ms Lee is the 34th fellow of one of the world’s top engineering associations. — ST FILE PHOTO

MEMBER of Parliament Lee Bee Wah has made history by becoming the first Asian woman – and Singaporean – to be admitted to an elite group of the world’s largest body for structural engineers.
She has been named honorary fellow of the Institution of Structural Engineers (IStructE), which is based in Britain.

It is a rare honour, as there have been only 33 such fellows since the title was introduced in 1958 to recognise people who have contributed to the institution and the profession.

The list includes luminaries such as renowned architect Norman Foster and Britain’s Prince Philip, the first fellow.

As a civil engineer, Ms Lee, 47, has been championing her profession, burnishing its image to convince students to opt for it over better-paying jobs in business and finance.

The first woman to be elected president of the Institution of Engineers Singapore, she said she is ‘happy and humbled’ by the award.

But more importantly, she hopes the award will inspire more students, especially women, to take up engineering.

‘Although we may not be the top earners, we are one of the top contributors to the nation,’ she told The Straits Times yesterday.

Pointing to the many major construction projects, both completed and ongoing, she said these have helped propel Singapore to First World status.

‘To remain competitive, we need to continue to attract the top brains to engineering,’ she added.

Elected an MP for Ang Mo Kio GRC in 2006, the voluble Ms Lee is a partner in engineering company LBW Consultants, which she founded in 1996.

This evening, she will receive her award at a dinner of the local chapter of IStructE, which had nominated her. It will make her the 34th fellow of the global association.

Formed in 1908, the London-based IStructE has 20,000 members in more than 100 countries, making it the world’s largest professional body dedicated to structural engineering.

Professor Wang Chien Ming, who chairs IStructE Singapore, said the award was ‘a true recognition of Bee Wah’s outstanding contributions to the engineering profession’.

‘It also serves as an affirmation of the increasingly important status of women professional engineers,’ he pointed out.

LBW, you made a bloody mess of things and have the galls to say ‘Lets move on.”. YOU are the one who shd move one… the sight of you sickens people. get lost!!! Singapore dun need you.!!!!
you just manage to f**k up the whole show…. first medal in 48 years… even our PM give face via his NDP rally for the table tennis team… but you shoot off your stupid mouth this way…
boy I am glad I am not living in AMK GRC.
TOC shd have a list of ‘hall of shame’ for these MIW and their recent blunders..

Re Choo Wee Kiang, he was the one who said that Little India very dark (hei qi qi)because of the Indian there. Also falsified invoices to secure $1.83 million in loans in 1999 (http://www.asiaone.com/specials/ge2006/news/20060503_story4_1.html). Jailed two weeks and fined $10K.

Re Choo Wee Kiang, he was the one who said that Little India very dark (hei qi qi)because of the Indians there. Also falsified invoices to secure $1.83 million in loans in 1999 (http://www.asiaone.com/specials/ge2006/news/20060503_story4_1.html). Jailed two weeks and fined $10K.

May I know where was Ms Lee Bee Wah when Gao Ning was playing his match? Why didn’t she try to rectify the situation when it happened instead of blaming others?
I also want to know who is sponsoring her trip to Beijing or did she pay for herself. If she is sponsored by the STTA, it is clearly a waste of taxpayer’s money. She was of no help and did nothing except to wave the Singapore flag like a crazy woman. Totally no class at all.

What can I say about this Malaysian born Lee Bee Wah who only came to Singapore in her twenties, NO CLASS! How to did we pick this type of MP for AMK GRC

She has this elitist atitude… so what if she is some structural engineer big gun… big f**king deal… she got no brains to tink and no EQ… go to hell lah. Singapore will not forget and ‘move on’…. LBW you wait for next election… or will you hide behind PM Lee again in a GRC…???? I guess LBW will have not guts to stand in a single ward constituent….

Thank you Andrew Loh :)

Well what a wonderful way of directing everyone’s attention away from the STTA incident. *APPLAUS* The more they try to protray LBW as a wonderful woman, the more she appear silly over the STTA incident.
Didn’t they mention that she was also the first Asian woman to sack officials during Olympic games where the country just won its only Silver Medal in 48 years???
It gets better in the Chinese evening papers.

her CV

Name : Er Lee Bee Wah (Member of Parliament)
Constituency : Ang Mo Kio GRC
Party Affiliation People’s Action Party
Place of Birth : Johor, Malaysia
Date of Birth : 06.10.1960
Marital Status : Married
No of Children : 2
Religion : Buddhist

Educational Qualifications
1967-1972 PSLE (Kiow Min Chinese Primary) (Malaysia)
1973-1973 (Sekolah Dato’ Dol Said) (Malaysia)
1974-1978 ‘O’ Level (Notre Dame Convent) (Malacca)
1979-1980 ‘A’ Level (Gajah Berang) (Malacca)
1981-1982 National University of Singapore
1982-1985 Bachelor of Engineering (Civil) Nanyang Technological University of Singapore
1989-1990 Master of Science (Engineering) University of Liverpool (United Kingdom)

Present Occupation
1996 Principal Partner, LBW Consultants / LBW Consultants LLP

Member of Parliament
06.05.2006 Ang Mo Kio GRC

Select Committees
Estimates Committee Member 11th Parliament, 1st Session

Career
1985-1994 Senior Engineer, St Construction Pte Ltd
1994-1996 Asst. Project Manager, Wing Tai Property Management Ptd Ltd

Nothing to brag about and not an outstanding person all these years look closely at her CV. Started working for Wing Tai 1994, took 5 years and 2 university to complete her Bachelor Degree

I am so disappointed with Ms Lee. Those people who had trainned the team for many years sure deserved more respect thanyou who just came into the picture and start trying to “take control” It put PAP into shame as this is the kind of people PAP grooms to lead us….. low EQ leaders. My faith in the new generation of PAP leaders is now all gone.

What others say about our goverment is quite true. A bunch of arrogant people. The word sorry is not in their vocabs.

The possible thing our garment might do “as a form of appology” should be to award Anthony lee and the coaches a civil medal in recognition for their work to help bring a sliver medals for the nation. Ms Lee should be replaced by a non-political figure.

This outrageously mindless act is totally uncharacteristic of any decent chief or head of an organisation. And this arrogant woman is a carefully selected MP who had gone thru many rounds of intereviews and coffees. I had always thought that one of the must-have criteria of an MP is level mindedness under stress. Sadly, she was totally emotional by speaking to the press w/o even listening to her officials first. And then declaring loudly thru her coarsely repulsive voice that drastic action would be taken!

Living up to her insanity, she fired the Anthony Lee, all w/o a thought to what her stupid act will do to the whole sporting fraternity at the Beijing Olympics and Singapore in general. Does she even realise how one arrogantly senseless act from her has caused embarrassment to the whole of Singapore and made us a laughing stock? We are supposed to be celebrating the triumph and acheivement of a nation with the crossing of a milestone in our sporting history, but out pops a senseless idiot, who with a single stroke put a whole nation to shame.

With only a single month as the STTA president, what does she knows anyway. For one who is not born and bred in Singapore and probably cannot appreciate the magnitude of this 48 years and therefore the tremendous joy and relieve of a nation, she is a complete shame and absolute misfit to be given any decision making position. When Gao Jing lost his match, she declared to the press that drastic action will be taken. Now, I plead with the authority out there to take some drastic action on her before she screws up many more things!

I appreciate LBW’s concern over the absence of a coach during Goa Ning’s match with our worthy opponent from Croatia. However, I believe that her mannerism and attitude of quickly identifying someone to blame for the whole situation is an absolute disgrace to Singaporean’s representatives in Beijing.

Her screaming and shouting in the media is not exactly what SIngapore wants to be known for a GRACIOUS society.

I am really appalled and disgusted by her actions.

Ms Lee,

Do consider doing the right thing: Apologise and reverse the decision.
If you want to remain stubborn about it, then do the next right thing: Justify your decision with good reasons.
Don’t hide behind new committee or phrases like:” lets move on!”

LBW!

What’s your contribution to the Singapore table tennis team winning the olympic silver medal?

Duh…Absolutely Nothing!!!

LBW step down la … we singapore should on the one who say move on ,who are u to say . so move on u r fired

Ms. Lee Bee Wah made another history for herself and Singapore. This time, she made a 100% mockery of a Singapore sporting association who has helped to bring honour to Singapore in 48 years. I wonder what follows … whatever it may be, Ms. Lee Bee Wah must not be given another chance to score an infamous first for Singapore.
Our highly respected PM Lee Hsien Loong must do the most sensible task now – that is to remove immediately Ms. Lee Bee Wah from his AMK-GRC and all political and governmental responsibilities, lest more damage is done to our Singapore and Singapore’s sporting arena.
Ms. Lee Bee Wah is better off as a Structural Engineer in the civil engineering world rather than pulling down the organisational structures of a sporting body in Singapore.

Her CV shows that she is not an outstanding person. Started her first job from 1985 to 1994 (10Years) in St Construction Pte. Ltd ( never heard of – must be small co.) from 1985 to 1994, thereafter at Wing Tai Property Mgmt Pte. Ltd ( a subsidairy co of Wing Tai)only as an Asst. Project Manager.

NO wonder she lack total exposure – NO MNC experience at all. Is this the type of people we want and are look for as an MP

Now… now…

after reading the article #54 posted and seeing the picture of LBW in training, I now repent of the disrespect I showed her in an earlier post. Obviously she knows a thing about table tennis… I mean, just look at the way she swings herself to execute that back hand:

http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking%2BNews/Sport/Story/STIStory_271691.html

I’m sure she’ll deliver good medals at the next Olympics. Come on all of us who are uneducated about the sports…surely she knows better! Let’s give her the benefit of the doubt. Surely, this must be forward planning. Surely, this must be called looking ahead… Surely, this must be leadership by example.

Oh plurleeeez. Somebody, pls get the Straits Times to take down all those obnoxious politician-trying-to-be-one-of-us pics. I’m feeling nauseous already.

I am a volunteer at the PAP. Lee Bee Wah I met few years ago. Actually, it was rather obvious that she was trying her best to get selected to be an MP for quite a while. She tried to participate in a one constituency and when she realised that it wasn’t going the way she wanted, she moved to another constituency to try her luck, and when that didn’t work, she moved again. If I recall correctly, I believe she moved constituency 03 or 04 times before finally being spotted and finally selected.

She may possess certain qualities that the govt is looking for ini building the new singapore but they may have overlooked her true intentions when they selected her.

i am glad people like WKS and LWB provided fodder for this forum.. go on, shoot off your bloody mouth without tinking.. you find youself cannon fodder for the tabloids… this will translate into votes into the next GE… 66.6% of you take note..!!!
btw, straits time and the CNA forum will never allow citizens to criticise their MIW no matter wat wrong…… totally disgusted…. i am really glad we have this forum….

first taste of power, like that already. Now got powder to appoint CEOs…..
sacking manager is small matter, next time can sack CEO…wow..even more powderful.

wrg to #98

No wonder ask people to move on.
She has been moving on to different constitueuncies.
So moral of the story, move on after a mess, especially when you create it.

I am utterly disappointed with the recent events unfolding after our table tennis team had won the silver after almost 50 years. And what a way to celebrate.

To sack the team head coach or manager after they had contributed so much to Singapore success is unheard of. Yes, the team made a mistake by leaving Gao Ning alone in his match. However, the coaches had expected GaoNing to win his game easily. Based on the circumstances then, is there any other way to resolved the problem of not having enough coaches to watch GaoNing match?
It was a combination of several unfortunate events that lead to what had happened!

Now, Mdm Lee, without getting her fact right first, wanted someone to be accountable for it. This shows that she could not manage her emotions at all. She also tried to run away from the issue by want to “move on”. To me, it is an irresponsible way to run away from your own faults.

To the benefit of the future of table tennis and her constituency , Ang Mo Kio, please resign from both your post as the president of Table Tennis and MP of Ang Mo Kio to prevent further damge, both to yourself and your organisation.

Thank you Aaron Tam for sharing an important piece of info regarding Lee Bee Wah.
To the readers, this is the same MP who was deliberately direspectful in parliament some time back. She used the ” JAMBAN ” analogy to put down an opposition member in parliament. It is thus not surprising about this MP who we know is riding on the coat-tail of the PM and staining him with her crap. It just gets better with this so call div 1 govt.
The funny thing is we have our own toilet drama ” lim ” who has yet to appear to defend Lee B W. LOL

It’s a really sad day for table tennis in particular and sports in general for S’pore. (Perhaps yet another example why we should not mix politics with sports, as what China President Hu Jintao said just b/f the start of Beijing Olympic.)

Just when we are beginning to climb out of the pit (after 48 years of drought), some PAP MP had to be handed a ‘high-profile up-and-coming’ position on a silver platter (don’t recall LBW was ever an active passionate sport participants in the very first place) in order to let her shine and get credits (the standard strategy to push up a person in politics), and the next thing you know, within a month of sitting on the peacock throne, she’s all puffed up thinking that she’s high and mighty and can do whatever she like and in the arrogant high-handed manner so typically of many govt high-flyers in privilege position (think high IQ, low EQ, excellent in theory + writing impressive policy papers, but totally clueless in the real practical world), dispense draconian judgment at her own whims on the “lesser beings” below her.

With the unhappiness, discouragement, disillusionment, and ill-feeling generated (not to mention we’re probably the sniggering talk-point of the rest of the world when this news spread out), S’pore dream of table tennis gold for the London’s Olympic is now probably nothing more than a pipe dream.

Perhaps another 48 years later….

(hmmm, this incident sort of refreshes my memory on the infamous “…get out of my elite uncaring face…..some pple cannot take the brutal truth….” episode of yet another MP in the same GRC not too long ago. Wow, seems like we certainly got quite a “Div 1” team in there….)

She’s lost all credibility. The ball is in her court now.

As far as I am concerned, non-athletes have no place running NSAs.

I can’t comprehend why LBW did that…. Thank goodness I am not working for her, who does not know how to appreciate one’s achievements but exercise her power without any hesitation to remove your position.

Can someone else higher up pls remove her from STTA for what she did to cause this hoohah so that she can have a taste of her own medicine!!!

This whole episode is very confuse me.

I thought that it’s the government themselves who want to win the Olympic medal? They keep insisting that their 1Dream is all of Singapore dream, repeated don’t know how many times in MSM, defend their FT policy until blue in the face.

Now that their team deliver the silver medal, they turn around to dismiss the head honcho and leave their FT coach hanging in the air?

Looks like Singaporean or FT also not immunes, as long as you are not belong to government then be prepared to thrown away when outlived usefulness.

If discarded not even directly inform, got no chance to appeal, even when go internet complain to relieve stress the government can somemore send people to scold you for “moaning and groaning”!

Very confuse.

She is probably trying to manage STTA like managing the engineers.
Wrong person, for the wrong job. Haizz…

So time to call it a day and MOVE ON like you use to do LBW.

agreed w Aaron Tan #100 her truth intention is to work the ground for her business, since she is a Principal Partner at LBW Consultants / LBW Consultants LLP, i am sure being an MP comes in handy to be a the consultating firm for major coontracts like IR and so on.

Business and Politics – Oil and Water

yes, now that you’ve mentioned it, it makes sense that she wants to be in parliament! She is a businesswoman! Oh my! I feel really sad for my country….what can we do??? Seriously? I love my country but what can we do when we CAN’T DO ANYTHING TO CHANGE THINGS?????

i suspect there was an attempt to prempt any critical remark over Gao Ning defeat… The big mouth lady was also hoping to capitalize on the sympathy Gao Ning would generated among Singaporean and thus wanted to appear to be fair and “in control”… terrible mistake on her part….she definitely will not survive in the private sector… absolutely no EQ and IQ… a shame that she is an MP..

i know of many grusruutleedirs.

sigh.

CEO job of STTA ….can TT Durai apply?

TT Durai can apply for CEO of STTA with endorsements from Ho Ching and Mrs. Goh.
After all he understands the value of gold and he will come up with a scheme for all peasants to contribute. It will be grander than before and fool-proof , if you get what I mean.

The title of the article couldn’t be more perfect…

If her actions do make her appear to be like a broom – having just straws for a head

From #82: This evening, she will receive her award at a dinner of the local chapter of IStructE, which had nominated her. It will make her the 34th fellow of the global association.
She make history to get this award & all said & done. If there’s an event in Beijing for the most ridicule personality
SHE WILL THIS SPECIAL GOLD MEDAL + her 34th award.
I doubt any action will be taken for Div 1 personnel.
But let hope this forum could draw some attention to our PM to re-evaluate their candidate for their MP.
Get her to move on………………………

Who did LBW think she was? She is just an opportunist MP seeking to take credits from STTA’s good-chance endeavours. No matter how valid her reasoning was, severe damage is done and she is clearly to account for that. Of all the stakeholders, she is the most dispensable. If our ruling party does not take appropriate actions against her this time round (she is but a small fry among the MPs), Ang Mo Kio GRC will be lost. It is worth celebrating that the Speaker’s Corner will be open for public demonstration without having to register beforehand from 1 Sep, a timely platform to show our solidarity against opportunist and wannabes and for righteousness. Today Vivian Balakrishnan said he doesn’t want relationships to be spoilt. Let’s see what relationship to preserve he is talking about: relationship between LBW and STTA or that between the anguished people and LBW (representing the face of the ruling party). We want a righteous outcome, not just a politically-correct one.

Does LBW’s blunder make LHL look like a fool ? What more with the following clowns surrounding our Clown Prince :-

1) Wee SK – remembered for “get out of my elite uncaring face”
2) I Singh – remembered for his double-headed snake character
3) LBW – remembered for the ungrateful actions

How do you rate our PM for his judgement skills ?

In the old Chinese tradition, when a government leader brings shame to her country, she ought to be cast away for good. So for AMK-GRC MP Lee Bee Wah to speak with the broadcast media and then made ill remarks about her own sporting body’s team manager and coaches, and further announcing openly and arrogantly the dismissal of the team manager to the media, she had committed a serious offence to her fellow Singaporeans. What right did she have to run down a person who played a role in helping Singapore achieve an Olympic medal in 48 years?

Therefore I certainly hope that a respectable Dr. Vivian Balakrishnan should wisely distant himself and should never even think of speaking for or helping the disgraceful Ms. Lee Bee Wah through damage control. In fact, the Singapore Government must treat this matter very seriously, otherwise Singapore’s image could be damned by this senseless woman.

What anti-climax to celebrate our country’s good showing at the Beijing 2008 Olympics! An award-winning well educated structural engineer without any human passion our Singapore certainly does not need.

We certainly need to reward all our fellow Singaporeans, Mr. Antony Lee and all the table tennis coaches for the good work they have brought to our nation.

Political transparency is fantasy if there is no media freedom.

Enough is enough, aren’t we all sick and tired of all these ‘High IQ’, ‘Low EQ’ scholarZzzz ?? Even Kopitiam Auntie/Uncle got more EQ (tact, PR) than them lor!

Heng ah, I got my 1 way ticket to N. America and out of Sink-a-pore !!

Absolute misfit of society, arrogant, brash, uncouth, irrational, stupid, idiotic, nincompoop, brainless, emotional, high-handed, devoid of leadership qualities and worse of all DISHONEST, LIAR, COWARD – this is a Member of Parliament for you!
SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Hi:

Totally agreed with editor Z.X. Choo in his editorial above…Incidentally, below is my reply to an article written by Mr. Lim of the New Paper last evening:

Dear Mr. Lim Han-Ming:

Below is the meaning of the word “undermine” that you so carelessly used in your article (Page 56, the New Paper, dated Aug. 25th, 2008) in defense of B.W Lee in regards to Singapore’s Olympic table tennis athlete Gao Ning’s event. There was no sabotage, at least not intentionally by
the team manager, Mr. Anthony Lee where this matter is concerned (at least based on the current reported evidence/situation):

One does not have to be working for ANY public relations firm to know that the timing and action taken by Ms. BW Lee, an MP for that matter, was tasteless,
unprofessional and unbecoming of a President of ANY organization! Yes, everyone has the right to speak up in regards to that issue, but not in this insensitive manner. If you had been Anthony Lee, and you had found out through a paper while you were in Beijing that you were being unfairly criticised without proper facts nor investigation of the situation, you would probably NOT look upon the actions taken by Ms. B W Lee as kindly as you are doing now, sir!

To look at things from a more impartial perspective – it seems that Mr. Anthony Lee received the call from the coach in question on a last minute basis
that he was ill. Assuming that to be true, any responsible coaches (regardless of seniority) would have arranged for a qualified someone to cover for him
while the competition was still in session. That would probably fall on the shoulders of head coach Liu Gudong since he is likely the person to assign coaches to the respective athletes during their competition. One would further assumed that any Head Coaches would have “Plan Bs etc.” for any “in-the-event-of” types of scenario. When this fiasco happend at the time of the competition, the furthest thing from Mr. Anthony Lee’s or anyone’s mind (including head coach
Liu) was to call Ms. BW Lee on this issue.

Secondly, the person who should shoulder the majority of this fiasco should really be Head Coach Liu, and the coach who had called in sick. Unless it was a
life threatening emergency for that coachm investigation <should be made? since it showed irresponsibility of the highest degree. It was so easy for yourself and BW Lee to assign all blame on team manager Anthony Lee.

If MP B.W. Lee is really so concerned about the welfare of ALL the players as you claimed, why didn’t she, prior to each and every competing session, checked
with Anthony Lee and/or Head Coach Liu as to which coach is supposed to be by which athlete’s side the day prior to each competition? If BW Lee is really so
concerned, then why didn’t she personally fly to the Peking University Stadium to give her personal support of our athletes throughout the entire competition so as
to ensure that there aren’t any hiccups for any of our players? If MP BW Lee is such a detailed oriented person as you seems to imply, then why is she not doing what she should be doing in the first place?

As an impartial reader, you only managed to give the impression that B.W. Lee is a controlling and unproductive President of STTA . For you to even defend
B.W. Lee and claimed that she has her player’s best interest at heart is so contradictory. My dear sir, her actions and her words do not match. This is not war
where instant decision needs to be made. This is more of a classic case of a substantial lack of diplomacy for someone in public office. I shudder to think of this
woman holding any serious political office involving Singapore in international politics – because instead of being proactive, she was being reactive. That is the difference between a great and a lesser person. I am truly sorry that you, Mr. Lim, appears to have missed the point of this issue as well…

It is also unfortunately that your paper do not have a forum section where anyone’s views (including yours and mine) can be published so that everyone gets to read different sides of any same issue.

Lee Bee Wah can be reached at lbw@lbw.com.sg
Give her some emails to let her know the extent of Singaporeans displeasure over her senseless outburst.

“How do you rate our PM for his judgement skills ?”

Don’t have to rate his judgement skills because he is #4 on the list

pinkish clown – remember for censoring Mee Siam Mai Hum, for fixing opp party and buying supporter’s vote. Oppss… most importantly, responsible for adding oil to fire by increasing GST to 40% and then get oversurplus that now don’t know go where ?

Surplus As Lee Bee Wah’s reward ? How can a woman who step in 1 month knowing that she is has nothing to lose behind the top team and try to claim credit in her credential is beyond my understanding ?

This woman seem to have a lot of credential but make me doubt of her substance of credential as PAP is never known for substance but image ever since the old guards are gone. She must have popup of nowhere weeks before a project/event is completed and then claim credit and that is why she look so super in resume ?

“She make history to get this award & all said & done. If there’s an event in Beijing for the most ridicule personality”

Since Singapore make history for bagging its first Olympic medal in 48 years, can Singapore make another history of bagging Singapore medal for the shortest job period ever serve as STTA president ? Lee Bee Wah will have the honour and we should feel proud.

Lee Bee Wah, please make us proud again. Please step down for another Singapore first.

You know what – all Singaporeans should consider sending an email directly to PM Lee’s office to let him know the extent of us Singaporean’s displeasure by this LBW before she can do further damage to our government under him – - if he doesn’t know it already….

Opportunists come in many guises and we are just fortunate enough that this incident reveals the true colors of a very mean and dispassionate person…
Heads will roll, but it wont be Anthony Lee’s for sure…

PM Lee – we who respect you are waiting to see what you will do about it…

Calling all Singaporeans – let’s all email PM Lee ’s office to let him how displeased we Singaporeans are concerning LBW’s handling of this situation…

Opportunists come in many guises, and we should thank our lucky stars that this incident reveal the true power grabbing and dispassionate character of this LBW…

Knowing this now, am certain that our respectful and intelligent PM Lee will do what is right …so that she will no longer be a thorn nor disgrace in our government’s side and bring back respectibility to Singapore…

Please forward this to as many of our fellow Singaporeans as possible so that this issue do not rest until true justice is done….Singaporeans, let’s UNITE!!!

Curriculum Vitae

Name : Er Lee Bee Wah (Member of Parliament)
Constituency : Ang Mo Kio GRC
Party Affiliation People’s Action Party
Place of Birth : Johor, Malaysia
Date of Birth : 06.10.1960
Marital Status : Married
No of Children : 2
Religion : Buddhist

Educational Qualifications
1967-1972 PSLE (Kiow Min Chinese Primary) (Malaysia)
1973-1973 (Sekolah Dato’ Dol Said) (Malaysia)
1974-1978 ‘O’ Level (Notre Dame Convent) (Malacca)
1979-1980 ‘A’ Level (Gajah Berang) (Malacca)
1981-1982 National University of Singapore
1982-1985 Bachelor of Engineering (Civil) Nanyang Technological University of Singapore
1989-1990 Master of Science (Engineering) University of Liverpool (United Kingdom)

Present Occupation
1996 Principal Partner, LBW Consultants / LBW Consultants LLP

Member of Parliament
06.05.2006 Ang Mo Kio GRC

Select Committees
Estimates Committee Member 11th Parliament, 1st Session

Career
1985-1994 Senior Engineer, St Construction Pte Ltd
1994-1996 Asst. Project Manager, Wing Tai Property Management Ptd Ltd

Awards and Decorations
1990 Jubilee Travelling Scholarship from the Institution of Structural Engineers, UK
2000 Study Tour Grant from Japan Society of Civil Engineers
2000 Nanyang Technological University Alumni Service Award
2001 13th Rotary-ASME Top Tep Entrepreneur of the Year Award
2006 Cambodia Royal Government Gold Medal

Interests
Travelling, Golf

Acronyms
PSLE Primary School Leaving Examination
GCE ‘O’ Level Singapore-Cambridge General Certificate of Education (Ordinary Level)
GCE ‘A’ Level Singapore-Cambridge General Certificate of Education (Advance Level)

She forget to update her resume

Interests
Travelling, Golf

to

Interests
Travelling, Golf, Table-Tennis.
Look like picture of her playing TT is just for marketing and show ?

Hello geylang ‘char bor’ have more EQ and IQ, otherwise how they survise lah.. Pls send her back …. After 48 years we rejoice for this ONE SILVER MEDAL n she destroy in ONE SECOND all the JOYS. Pls send her back, we dun need her. Even kopitiam auntie also know how and when to open their BIG MOUNTH. Can someone ask her to watch herself on the media ” screaming and shouting”…. I got a shock suddenly come out ONE ’siao char bor’. ONE mONTH only sshe sack the mananger…. then…… ONE YEAR I cannot imagine who she will sssack.. We had been asked to be gracious,she she understand or nott…..
What a disgrace she made!!

ST 26-08-08 (EXTRACTS)

But the woman at the centre of the storm also remained defiant.

When asked if she would have done things differently in hindsight, she replied: ‘No, I don’t think there was anything wrong. Maybe the only thing is that I would not talk to Peh Shing Huei. My intention was blown out of proportion.’

Mr Peh, a senior correspondent with The Straits Times, had broken the story that Mr Lee’s services were no longer needed by the STTA in The Sunday Times, following a face-to-face interview with Ms Lee in Beijing.

First, this one-month old STTA president Lee Bee Wah complained to the press about no coach for Gao Ning’s match and that “heads will roll”. I was surprised when I read that and now, she wants the team manager and head coach for the girls team removed as well.

I would like to ask Lee Bee Wah the following questions:

1) did she talked to the 2 gentlemen in question and try to understand their viewpoints before making the decision? Or she thinks she know enough to make the decision just by talking to the players?

2) what did she do to contribute to the success of the women team’s being? Would the girls have won the medals without her versus without the 2 gentlemen ? just because she is the new STTA president she can do as she pleases ? what are her contributions and qualifications to be the president of STTA in the first place?

3) even if it is really their fault in the Gao Ning incident, these 2 men have helped the women team win the medals. They have been working on this objective possibly even before Lee Bee Wah know what STTA stands for. Can this one mistake warrant their dismissal/sacking (or whatever new terminology you now used ?)

4) Did the new STTA CEO and technical director need to “apply” for their positions (which days in the Straits Times Appointment Pages did your ads appear?) or they are appointed by you ?

5) where is the sensitivity and graciousness in this decision when the whole nation is trying to welcome back the team ? must the timing be such ?

6) f you think you were wrongly quoted by the newspaper reporters, say so. If not, do not blame them for reporting what you yourself said. Have the courage to admit that you said what was reported. You may be the President of the STTA, but to me, you are just another ordinary person – deserving no more respect than the next person – and after this incident, perhaps less respect. We do not need to “move on” just because you said so. What we want is accountability from you.

Lee Bee Wah seems to be very eager to mete out punishment. Any sensible and decent manager would know that he /she have to gather the views of both sides before making decision especially one that affect others’ liveihood. But sadly, this seems to be missing in this woman. With even an MP behaving as such – no wonder we have to “learn to be gracious”. I am not a resident of Ang Mo Gio GRC; if I am, I would be very ashamed to have such a MP representing me.

Did anyone read this m’ning papers from LBW comment: “I’M BRUSIED” & remained defiant. Replied “No, I don’t think there was anything wrong. Maybe the only thing is that I would not talk to Peh Shing Huei. My intention was blown out of proportion.”
Her intentions as stated by fellow singaporean is true: Get elected to be MP Div 1 status, 34th engrg award, appointed PRESIDENT of STTA 1 mths b4 the olympic. HER TIMING is flawless.
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100) Aaron Tam on August 25th, 2008 7.45 pm I am a volunteer at the PAP. Lee Bee Wah I met few years ago. Actually, it was rather obvious that she was trying her best to get selected to be an MP for quite a while. She tried to participate in a one constituency and when she realised that it wasn’t going the way she wanted, she moved to another constituency to try her luck, and when that didn’t work, she moved again. If I recall correctly, I believe she moved constituency 03 or 04 times before finally being spotted and finally selected.
She may possess certain qualities that the govt is looking for ini building the new singapore but they may have overlooked her true intentions when they selected her.
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Now Dr. B has already started to save her butt by anouncing full review, and we are likely to get brush aside with answer that LBW will still be the PRESIDENT of STTA, and this whole thing has been overreacted by the media and public (pple like us). Nothin’ new, heads will roll but not hers, find lower divsion head to roll.
I am gutted at her I’M BRUSIED remarks and still think she is not WRONG!
Gosh, she still don’t get it, just refuse to accept the truth, after so many public outcry on her actions. How on earth we have an MP like her?

With some high handedness, it reflects badly on Singapore and does little to attract foreign talent or even retain local talents.

Lee BW should be removed as she effectively just slapped the face of what the PM and his cabinet is trying to achieve.

Her “victimized” comments in the ST today reminds me of the story of the man who kills his mother and father and then pleads to the court for mercy as he is an orphan.

Thks Aaron for the following info,
“She tried to participate in a one constituency and when she realised that it wasn’t going the way she wanted, she moved to another constituency to try her luck, and when that didn’t work, she moved again. If I recall correctly, I believe she moved constituency 03 or 04 times before finally being spotted and finally selected.
I guess she got the W. T connections ….. she is a political opportunist.

spore leaders….

Did anyone catch “good morning singapore” programme on Tv this am?

Instead of Coach Liu joining them in the programme, LBW was there with the 3 players on tv. why is the new STTA president so eager to jump to the limelight to claim glory on TV when this is the achievement of those who have worked hard with the team in the past years. Why is the Coach who fought alongside these players not appreciated instead? bad judgement and very inappropriate.

very saddened by how the stta president did so much damage to the morale and team spirit in such a short time. If we want to be a gracious society, we need to start with treating people right and it is appalling how the coach and team manager of our winning team have been treated. This is no way to treat the coaches of our silver medal team, Many netizens have pointed out “cross the river, destroy the bridge” behaviour sends all the wrong messages to potential talented players and coaches who will seriously think twice about joining a team with such a mess-up at its leadership helm. we should not forget talent is mobile, and team spirit is what drives sports players. Probably many top teams would like to hire Liu Guodong after the breakthrough we achieved. Destroying team spirit is the last thing the stta president should do. As the star player who fought to the end to win our silve medal Feng Tianwei said on “good morning Singapore” programme on TV today, the person she most wants to thank is Coach Liu for discovering her and giving her the platform to develop her talent” in the Singapore team. Players and coaches have a deep bond. I’m sure the players are demoralised by the way the coaches/team manager who have been fighting alongside them are now treated in this way. Just look at their faces on the “good morning Singapore” programme, totally demoralised.

we need the right kind of leadership at the stta helm if we want to go for Gold in London 4 years from now. There must be more fitting and suitable leaders in Singapore familiar with our sports arena to lead the stta; table-tennis is afterall the sport that won our silver medal in 48 years. Shouldn’t a more experienced leader of the sports sector (people like Mr Tan Eng Liang, Ng Ser Miang) be much more able to lead the stta rather than “a first foray into sports”? Is this the type of risk and inexperience we want to take with the stta. After all the effort of the table-tennis team members who have soldiered on to come this far, it is painful for Singaporeans to see how it is already all falling apart. It will be a real shame to see the talent we have got in our team go to waste if this is allowed to continue. Is no one going to step up and put a stop to this? And not by glossing over everything. So much damage, so little time!

the only one to lose out is Singapore, our competitors the Korean team and others are the happiest. As Singaporeans who hv been inspired by and rooting for our table-tennis team, we want to urge will someone in MCYS, please listen to the many Singaporean voices.

Paracuting into STTR only a few months, it was very high handed in whatever the reason behind the sacking. But she is not wrong wah.

LBW…listen good…GO HOME…Singapore does NOT need weak & coward people..

With so many netizen expressing for PM & MCYS to step her down.
She seems to have super amour coated skin, busking in the limelights on TV, papers and bus ride reception, grinning around.
She has been “moving” around for her MP position and now she is definitely not stepping down till told by PM.
It’s so unappropriate and bad case of PR.
The sigh of her is really unpleasant.

LBW must learn that SPH is not always on her side! Well done SPH.

ling ren qie chi, (to make one grash teeth)

If I remember correctly, it costs around $30,000 to buy a full page ad space on the Straits Time. If we can get 30,000 people to fork out $1.00 each, let’s buy an full page insertion on the nation’s newspaper calling for her resignation from STTA!

Though i was not at the scene, i was watching the Sg Vs China match on the TV in Beijing. The feeling was great and I am sure the efforts put in by the entire Singapore national team was enormous. I was a player during my sec school & JC time, i know how difficult to be at the top (well, i didnt make it…). My salute to them! For those who do not understand sports, just issuing orders at the top and not having the courage to admit her wrong doing, her days will be numbered. Be good and humble. (KL @ China)

crazy woman. Can sukasuka fire people like that! Malaysian ppl coming to singapore to create havoc. By the name of god, put her on the cross.

wake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake up wake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake upwake up singapore OR YOU WILL SINK.

the pic in ST show LBW , so sick tat i punk

Did LBW acted under instructions? If so, she must have acted without any EQ. On the other hand if STTA have already decided to remove the manager even before we have won the silver as STTA seems to have decided to engage a CEO, then the decision is most untimely .

Table tennis like many sports is a game of accuracy and timing. The timing of this move by the STTA is just another reflection of how much more improvement is needed…

TIME WILL TELL …. but i believe we will not remember in 4 yrs time just like did anyone mentioned about the guy on the run anyumore…or earning 50k is like peanuts..
Our culture in spore makes us forget wat has happened when it is done by our guys up there…or let you complaint till you are breathless…follow by distraction by pointing at others …then it will be forgotten…then MOVE ON…

The point is we were not taught to fight but to complaint…..
WELL DONE to our Table tennis girls…and everyone who is involved in making our dream come true…you know who you are….

and to LBW… pls move on… to other things…Sports are for sportsmen…THEY KNOW BEST!!… POLICKTIC should stay where it is..they are like water and oil…they dun mix…

my 2 cents worth

Just looking at her mugshot, if she is ever out of a job, I think she would make a good replacement for gollum…hahah

Can save a bundle on CG effects :p

Didn’t turn on TV this morning but understand that she was on TV again. Wa! Got face to appear, point finger at Peh Shing Huei some more.

Hmm…Think she should join the SPFA (Singapore Point Finger Association), sure make a good President.

LBW brings back memories of Malaysians taking away Singaporean jobs when we guys have to do NS- we are happy for them knowing the unfavourable situation in Malaysia.
But this lady has obviously overstayed and having enjoyed much fruits at the expense of our hospitality, has now brought disgrace to Singapore with her shameful and unforgetable behaviour, and continue to behave as if Singapore owe her her living.
The groundswell must be sustained to get rid of her now before the Government PR machinery intervene and cover up the entire episode, and then it will be as always ” move on”.

LBW..if u point a finger at others, remember there are 3 more pointing at YOU!!

Someone has created a petition for LBW to step down at

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lbw

the worst is a person who think that she is right when she is wrong. please blame those around her who always give in to her emotional outbursts. anyway, she is her own boss since 1996. what do you expect her to do, listen to you?

I am disappointed with the depth of discussion on your website. There are obviously more than meet the eye on this case. The current STTA management are politicians trying to hang-on their job by promoting their own loyalists – Like in most civil servcie department by give away favour & promotion to those loyal, not based on merit. Continuing with the current management team and their set KPI, no local player will ever made it to any international competition. Any pareent with kids who take up table tennis as ECA will be able to explain this clearly to you.

Lee BW announcement during Olympic on the sacking is obviously trying to tell everybody that the current management team has contributed nothing to the Silver medal. The current management team need to be replaced for Table tennis to remain as an alternate path of success for our kids, other than aceda\emic. Don’t be so easily taken.

Hi Everybody: (FUNDs to call for LWB’s RESIGNATION as STTA President and MP of ANG MO KIO)

The suggestion by £147, Frequent Flyer to get at least 30,000 Singaporeans or Residents who are totally outraged by this LBW is a superb idea.

Let’s just do that…let’s get not 30,000, but 90,000 so everyone only needs to pay
$1.00 (hey anyone out there in media services who can even booked us a discount) and take not 1 but 3 full pages and not asks, but DEMANDs the RESIGNATION OF LBW, by now we know who is SOMEONE as UNFIT as a fiddler to be ANY constituencies MP.

Hey, if there’s anyone from ANG MO KIO, can you all please circulate this suggestion and get her to also RESIGN as the MP for ANG MO KIO?

As to how and whom we should send our monies too, can this website set up a fund on our behalf to collect them so this can be done?

Seriously, I hope that PM Lee Hsien Loong is paying special attention. If nothing is done, most of us indignant Singaporeans will be disillusioned – so I shall keep my faith until we come to the bridge…

Nah, more than meets the eye a not, its just bad timing.

Things can be done for good reason but the timing still stinks…

Timing in life is everything – Leonard Maltin

@ lim

timing is bad for Lee Bee Wah ?
She is known as the Jamban woman in parliament !
What do you expect from such a crude MP who is riding on the coat-tail of the PM and staining him with her crap. Of course this Lee B W fiasco stinks and smells of some toilet drama !

National sabotage from the North? Beware of FTs that do not have our interest at heart !!

I can’t believe that none of the 165 – blog comments had anything good to say about our foreign guest. Surely, amongst all this horse manure, we can find a pony. There is no such thing as a bad boy/girl. Singaporean should be be magnanimous and look hard for the good in our FTs? Perhaps Dr B can help !

Uh, in theory, one shouldn’t expect to find a pony in horse manure.

Generally, what one would expect to find are dung beetles (depending on region), worms (depending on condition of horse) and probably flies (all conditions).

Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana – Groucho Marx.

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Letting the matter rest is not her option or choice. It’s whether we, Singaporean, want to let the mater rest. It’s a shame she has to hit the ball when it’s not in her court.

where she got ping pong balls. she is hurting others ping pong balls. that is why she is a pissed off

“We, Singaporean, want to let the mater rest.”

lol. Just wanted to highlight that mater has a dictionary meaning of “mother”.

Its also only a shame if she hits the ball when she doesn’t need to not when she has to.

Finally, there is also an “s” behind the Singaporean mentioned ;-)

Grammer, spelling tsk tsk…

My message to PM Lee H.L

Dear Prime Minister,

The recent sage on the sacking of team manager Anthony Lee and the outburst of MP Lee Bee Wah reminded me of the the election which the PAP lost Bukit Gombak to Lin How Dong. Remember Dr Seet Ai Mei?

Dr Seet washed her hand immediately after shaking hand with some fishmonger, resulting in severe public outburst, esp in the Bukit Gombak ward. The end result is obvious. PAP lost the seat.

Similarly, MP Lee Bee Wah angered thousands of Singaporean with her rash actions and her cowardly behaviour in the aftermath. She had shown that she does not have the qualities to lead the STTA, what’s more as a member of Parliament to represent her constituency.

If, dear Sir, you wanted to avoid humiliation in the next election, please do not include Ms Lee Bee Wah in your constituency. For she is such a mega turn off for many Singaporean now.

Thank you,
One of the many Singaporean pissed off by the recent saga

lol. I see politics, I see manure.

171 posts on the issue and not one has yet spoken on the real loser of this entire issue. The team manager.

Civil servant in SSC creating an issue that embarrassed MP and govt. Think got future?

All want the MP’s head? All politics no heart.

My true condolences is with the team manager. Can’t do anything for him though.

You people beri bad, never thank LBW for what she has done.

We shall Thank LBW for showing us what kind of leader she is.

Three jeer for LBW..Boo, Boo,Boo..!

你(讲)屁话

Much as I sympathise with the author’s view that LBW came across hasty and arrogant, I thought it was a huge leap of logic to call it a “transposition of the authoritarian instincts of the People’s Action Party (PAP) into the sporting arena”.

A few thing MP Lee Bee Wah had done wrong
1) She cannot undermine the authority of the team chef de misson. From the opening to closing ceremony; the authority of the team rest with Che de misson. She cannot take any action without consulting the Chef de misson.
2) By not renewing the team manager and Chief coach contract we are effectively disbanding the whole winning team
3) It takes at least a few year to build the team. so we cant just like that

Lee Bee Wah’s company’s website at http://www.lbw.com.sg is mysteriously down??? Perhaps getting too much flak that it is now down.

At the rate the episode is going, LBW would become the symbol of everything bad with PAP, fairness for me and accountability for you.

If she is smart, she should quit. But she won’t be, becos she already told everyone that we should move on. ie. close your eyes, shut up.

LBW is simply trying to flex her muscles as the new president of the STTA and make her presence felt.

Yes, she made her presence felt but it was a rotten feeling everyone has gotten and the impression anyone could get of her is that of a highly petty, naive, high-handed, immature, and insensitive dictator who makes purely emotional decisions……

Don’t let me see this woman make any silly comments again or I’ll spank her behind to make her shut her trap…

Guys….. let us show Ms Lee Bee Wah the power of Netizens and Singaporean by demanding that she steps down as the president of STTA. This is the minimum that she can do!!

I don’t feel safe that the STTA is in the hand of someone who does not know anything about sports! Get someone who has loads of experience in managing sports association be the new president!

PLEASE STEP DOWN MS LEE BEE WAH!!

The ppl selection process of PAP is flawed. That is what it collectively means.

Oei, wo si enginner , zai bo. I deal with structures not human wat …so i din no what EQ mah.

Structures no good, i take them down wat. So team manager no good, i sack lor.

Meybe she listened to wrong advice from someone…who curse & swear at antony …still it showed she lacks maturity …dinno how to make her own judgement …like this kind of mp …jialak …

maybe she just come out and say she had acted based on someone’s wrong advice …people still can forgive her and praise for being courageous lor.

I am just wondering how many of the PAP MPs and leadship are like this Ms Lee.
What damage has been done to other organisations and their people behind closed door meetings, I’m sure many. Please contribute your experiences. Someone told me this recently, when I said this was my first time in over 40 years I missed the National Day parade and the National Day speech, oh don’t worry, I can write it for you! Cannot imagine our country is run by a bunch of highly paid but not too bright people.

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Just to highlight that LBW is also current President of the Institute of Engineers Singapore. She have tried many years to be elected for the position and finally voted as the first Female President thru some mircale, rubbing of shoulders and fine power play.

Not surprising, her next position would not be the PM’s post, but the President of Singapore. Can you imagine a person with an integrity issue and an attitude being elected as President of Singapore.

Yes we are all awaiting for another eposide of Hotel New World or the Nicoll Highway Collapse! This time is the Bank of Singapore

why dun we start a protest at Speaker’s corner instead?

We should take a real world approach to a real world issue!

I think Ms Lee’s handling of the case is disappointing, and ungracious and I really wonder a person like her can handle higher position in the govt? Watever the reason she gives only god knows and I hope our wise Mr vivian will resolved it ASAP.
My thoughs, I Think Ms Lee should step down as president too and reflect on her EQ… sorry to say… she had drag herself into something which can be handled in a wise manner… and not using the media to pour out her unhappiness and demand this and that… what is this! is she trying to show her authority as a president of STTA of “1 month” and as a MP?? this is not the way.. man…
lastly, we need wise leader not a outbrust crazy mad man/woman… I hope this ppl understand that…

“180) leondna on August 26th, 2008 11.19 pm Guys….. let us show Ms Lee Bee Wah the power of Netizens and Singaporean by demanding that she steps down as the president of STTA. This is the minimum that she can do!!

I don’t feel safe that the STTA is in the hand of someone who does not know anything about sports! Get someone who has loads of experience in managing sports association be the new president!”

I really think a person like her should step down and let the MCYS and SSC to handle STTA and get someone better qualified for the job of president… Sports should be handled by real sport man and woman.. not stiff minded people!! Sorry to say… Seeing her on broad the bus meant for the people who worked really hard for sports event.. really doesn’t fit the bill… no wonder everyone in the bus wasn’t really very happy and excited except her!!.. oh man… really dun know wat to say… sigh…
Trust me… if not see for urself… if we continue to such people we will never get to achive GOLD even 10 years or even centuries later… we will not succeed in real sports… we will only have people like her only know how to keep changing people like changing cloths…. and playing the blame game without thinking of how people would feel!!.. outbrusting like a MAdDog can never solve any thing.. it can only make matters worst…but she dun seems to understand… sigh… please step down and let a qualified sport man handle the job… My plead to Ms Lee…

I cant help but notice the LBW is waving on the bus..

BUT BUT isint parliament supposed to be in session?

Touche, Lim (comment 167).

When we open the windows to let the fresh air in.. and so will we let the flies in as well.. Perhaps we are too busy figuring out what to do with our fat ministerial paychecks to think about putting up screens, or watching our detention centers. Does that mean that we let it pass and live with the flies and insecurity, … or do we do what we do so well with our opposition and hold them accountable. Hmmm…. lets see what we are made of ! – gold or manure – perhaps our citizens can’t discern different items of the same color … we hope !!

Backfire (comment 162) – where do I send my $1.

God Save Singapore !!

Why do we have to get an Anwar Ambassador to do this to us. Can’t we at least find a Singaporean to screw this up. I suppose there aren’t enough Singaporeans to do the job. Majullah Singapura !!

Ms Lee Bee Wah … Please resign. You are fired by Singapore!
Go back to your Johor and eat your pineapples and plant your table-tennis seeds.

LBW definitely has very high AQ (Adversity Quotient)…she doesn’t give a damn about us, the Living asking her to resign. Treating us as “Dead”.

Let’s put our hands together and welcome her to sing to the Dead at 7th month Getai…”Shi Shang Zhi You P.A.P. Hao”

At 48years old, she is already Menopausal…

I agree with Frequent Flyer and Backfired to take out Adverts for the SACKING of LBW…Can SPH set up the Website for our donations/contributions since the money will be paid to SPH eventually?

Well…look like the auntie has back tracked…now she more or less..to save face..said no issue for the coach to be in the team for the 2012. However, much damages already done to her credibility. She’s currently top the list in the Hall of Shame. If im the coach, i better think twicw before accepting the offer..i envisage working with her is as good as serving a power crazed, domineering nut!

Ms LBW can’t even manage a sports team like table-tennis. I see no credibility in her in managing her estate in AMK GRC also. With no EQ, IQ and simple manners like discussing with the present team, she has bloated the scene out of proportion till there is no mood for celebration for a medal other than the 7th Month. Perhaps 7th month celebration even more happy than rejoicing with the athletics. I sympathise with the Mr Anthony and Coach Liu. After doing so much, what they gained is just another political insensitivity to put them away so that she can enjoy her president seat!! How incorrigible and arrogant!

Talk all we can, she still appear in ST commenting on plan for the coaches and plan of STTA. There’s only limited netizen here posting with frustration and suggestion, wonder if our PM be reading all these posting.
She still so arrogantly appear everyday, can ayone advice a more effective method to garner public support to get her STEP DOWN, and the relevant authority take consideration of the petitions/comments.?
If not, all these will come to nothin when the usual sweep under the carpet or let it goes on a few days and the issue will dies of natural death.LBW will smarting as the STTA president.

LBW said previously that whether coach Liu will stay is up to the coaching committee to decide. Now, she is saying that no issue for the coach to be in the team for the 2012. So, she is now the entire coaching team ?

How can someone change her words so frequently ? so very inconsistent – how to ever trust that she mean what she said if she can change her words so very fast ?

Papers also said she decide who the players can/cannot talk to … sad.

If LBW had been less shrill with her ping, at least her pong won’t smell so bad now…

Please let me know where to send my $1.

NEW BROOM LBW SWEEPS INDIVIDUALLY…No one else is behind her! She is all on her own!

She is but a loose canon, firing blanks —

She is known for boot licking/sucking, what is changing track mid way, her talk is, as always cheap …

She just doesn’t get the message to get HER FACE out of our way, if she still has a face that is…

Did Teo Ser Luck say that too?..”.AL can re-apply for team manager”…

NATO – NO ACTION TALK ONLY…

LET’S SHOW OUR ACTION IN THE NEXT GE !!!

if there is no official word from the top on the fate of LBW come 1st Sept, let’s have a show of force at Speakers’ Corner @ Hong Lim Park

The re-application thingy comes across as “damage control”.

As an neutral observer, I would say that if there was any sincerity, the tenure should have been extended pending the new chief’s decision. One does not leave an empty hole in between, which is a reflection of poor planning.

Good planning may have been to put in a provision to allow a short extension in case Singapore performed well.

Good PR would have been to provide a short extension to the team manager’s tenure as a “reward” for his efforts.

Ah well, the milk has spilled.

I am a Singaporean living/working in Shanghai. Many of my Chinese friends are shocked by how green our STTA president is.

They asked with perplexed face, “Isn’t Table Tennis Singapore’s strongest sports? First medal in 10 years right? ” I have to correct them, “Actually 48 years…”

Our nation has finally achieved a breakthrough in the international sports arena. I though this day will never come. It is really precious. My wife and I were cheering the Singapore Paddlers on in our house and we knew many Singaporeans shared our joy and excitement at that very same moment.

LBW should apologise for her brashness and take the necessary actions for the long term future of the sport in Singapore.

I am just hoping that there will not be too many more LBW-like people amongst the GRC MPs.

Long Live Free Media

All teachers know that lesson time must be in class. As an MP, it is her duty to present in parliament sitting not on ‘Lorry Head”.

Is it true? Who close down the ipetitions website?

To a ruthless Politician, everyone can be sacrificed including her Mother. To achieve her objective of boot licking/sucking, she replaced her Mother in the nursery song (Shi Shang Zi You P.A.P. Hao) where little ones are taught to appreciate their Mother’s greatness.

Why heed PM Lee’s call for Women to have more babies when a Politician in his Div One GRC preached otherwise about filial piety?

Since her mother can be replaced, so can the TT team manager, head coach because it is all about herself only…self-centred *********************************

This is similar to what had happened in Swimming. Someone has worked hard for many years, a new guy came in and kicked away all the old guys, create a stir with new initiative, then damage control has to be done to rectify the situation. It takes more than just pure management or administrative skill to be a leader, you need to have the heart and passion for the people under you.

Probably STTA had not done enough to bring the sport to the masses, that’s why a new president is being brought in. Its likely that she will try to emulate the success of some working model elsewhere, and implement it here (just like what they did to swimming). It is unlikely to be successful, most parents here will want their children to pursue their career elsewhere, so whatever that works elsewhere will never work here. And our new generations are just too comfortable.

Our minister has stepped in and hopefully he will do the right thing. Those people that has contributed should be duly rewarded, and not be dismissed just because they have not aligned themselves with the new ‘vision’ of the new president.

We want to be a gracious society, because we love our family and the people around us, and not because we want to show it to the tourist during F1 or Youth Olympic. If our leader can’t even lead by example, and show graciousness in appreciating our fellow countrymen, then forget about telling the layman to be gracious.

Be nice to others if you want others to be nice to you. And it takes a lot of courage to admit that you are wrong.

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Normally, such interviews are recorded. To partially redeem herself, she should call for the release of the sound recording on YouTube. If the recording confirms her arrogance, Vivian Balakrishnan should sack her at a formal reception and WE can let the matter rest.

{Maybe the only thing is that I would not talk to Peh Shing Huei. My intention was blown out of proportion.}
Normally, such interviews are recorded. To partially redeem herself, she should call for the release of the sound recording on YouTube. If the recording confirms her arrogance, Vivian Balakrishnan should sack her at a formal reception and WE can let the matter rest.

Think those volunteers supporting LBW at the AMK GRC should stay away from her otherwise they too may face the consequences and get written off. Better to get out now then to be associated with such person.

Should have seen what happened a few years back to the Singapore Chess federation. Defamation suits flying around. SSC members taking the witness stand.

Sports and politics shouldn’t mix.

Perhaps LBW should think before talking rather than regret later by saying that one should not have talked to the press. sad you chose politics as your cup of tea. maybe its time you should consider a coaching career in tennis after all. who knows given your capability we may win gold medals at the next olympics even without having to import foreign ‘aces’ . Humility first before learning to throw weight.

give us a break sister

[...] Original post by joey [...]

Isn’t this episode a replay of what has been and is still happening in some of our schools?

A new p gets posted in.
The new p changes everything that has been working for the school
The new p don’t care about destroying the present system
The new p only cares about establishing his own system so that he can write reports to superiors
The new p gets credits for his bogus achievements
The new p gets posted somewhere else
Another new p comes and tear down what the previous p has done.
The never-ending story of getting new p.

Sigh ….

LBW has certainly not learnt her lesson. Despite being “bruised”, she seems to enjoy to be “bruised” again. Why is she still giving comments to the press today when the Minister have already assured Singaporeans that he will look at all the facts before commenting on the case! If this is not attention or glory seeking on LBW’s part, then I don’t know what is?

LBW commented earlier that Mr Liu’s fate will be decided by a “coaching Committee” which will be appointed later. Today, she is saying that the renewal of Mr Liu’s contract is already in the cards! It makes one wonder if the coaching committee and LBW are one and the same? If that is the case, LBW is certainly making a mockery of herself. Her integrity will be called into question! Is she blatantly lying to the press and all Singaporeans that a coaching committee will be appointed to decide the fate of Mr Liu.

To add salt to injury, if she already knew beforehand that Mr Liu will not be axed, then why must she be a spoilsport and gave all Singaporeans the wrong message that Mr Liu’s fate is uncertain at a time when all Singaporeans are jubilant and up in arms to cheer the whole TT team home? What could her agenda be?

The ipetition is still there.
Its at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lbw/

I have no comments on the asking of her resignation. I will let her boss decide.

But I would like to have Mr. Lee as the manager and Mr. Liu as the head coach for the team for 2012.

Majulah Singapura ….. Onward Singapore

we can see how we have a tendency to shoot ourselves … talk abt ruthless friendly fire.

In all seriousness., do you think there will be any actions by anyone to remove anyone?. There is this thing call TIME…it will erase everyone’s memory. It hurts when you first cut yourself…but some years later, you only remember the cut but you have forgotten the pain.
Similarly, this incident will slowly erase itself as they will take time to investigate, to check , to make sure, to discuss, to set up, …and eventually…it will not be anything more then a report on how the incident happen..nothing more…no more words from both parties…as it will be resolved/ agreed/ accept/ misunderstanding…citing reasons like tensions/ moment of anger/passion..

and then they will want everyone to be forgiving…and LET’S MOVE ON…

my2 cents worth

jialat liow if liu a rare talented coach employed by others.
starts day dreaming of 2010/2012 kosong likely.
better save tax payers money.
dun waste time n efforts.
terrible to threaten a rare talent instead of keeping him.
we should keep a winning team intact instead of thinking ways to destroy them.
very very sad for the nation…

Ch8 news: LBW has committed an offence in China—buying Olympics tickets from black market.
LKY. LSL please take action!!!!

Make a guess, take a closer look, what do she look like?? You are right, she will be called home by this Sat at 2359 (last day of the 7th month in lunar calendar)

Hey guys better becareful of your comments, don’t forget she is Singapore Number 1 ” Ah Huay” even our WP lawyer “Ah Lian” also kanna from her badly. She “black “and “white” all got connection one, don’t play play….

Who dare to touch my # 1 “Ah Huay” must go through me “Ah Loong” first. Don’t forget, in Singapore I make the call.

This gao is a wimp and cry baby he lost to a better player. LBW naive and inexperience. How can LBW be a successful MP when she cannot even handle basic issues. What a failure

I remember our very own MM Lee said this…

“When I call a man openly, you’re a liar, you’re dishonest, and you do not dare to sue me, there’s something basically wrong. And I will repeat it anywhere and you can’t go and say, oh, I have apologised; let’s move on. Can you commit a dishonourable — maybe even one which is against the law — an illegal act and say, let’s move on because I’ve apologised? You may move on but you’re going to move on out of politics in time.” — MM Lee Kuan Yew on James Gomez, Channelnewsasia, May 2006

Now… this lady, Ms Lee Bee Wah did not even bother to apologise for her rash and ungracious actions. And yet, she dared to say, lets move on! My foot!

If the PM /SM /MM are seeing this, please sack and remove Ms Lee Bee Wah from whatever post she is holding now. I really have no confidence in her as the leader of our only Olympic silver winning team after 48 years or as a MP in AMK.

I think David hit the nail on the head in post 176 above. LBW totally lost it when she spoke out of turn and supplanted the Chef de Mission Dr Tan Eng Liang. To compound matter, Dr Tan EL has already declared the matter closed BEFORE she opened her big gap.

One of the primary roles of the Chef de Mission is to be the spokesperson for the Team (see the Canadian example):
http://www.diving.ca/english/pdf/CdM-ToR_e.pdf

In a separate article (see link below):
“Dr Tan said that in preparation for an Olympics, it is crucial to appoint a Chef de Mission early. He must also have the experience and familiarity with operating at the Olympic level, with the PR skills and good management ability to boot. But perhaps above all, he must have a love for sports. ”

Perhaps he should have add that any presidents of any sports associations should also have these qualities – PR skills, good management ability and love for sports. Sadly, LBW lacked all three.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/371060/1/.html

it is very telling how often when the players get photographed in their victory celebrations, the president somehow will always wormed her way in to be photographed as well.

Having been in the job for about 1 month only, she did nothing to contribute to the success but is finding every reason to be photographed in their victory.

I don’t see the presidents of any sports associations trying to hog the limelight as much as LBW.

Singaporeans, do not be fooled by outward appearances. It is often the little gestures, actions and speeches that show what is the true nature of a person.

From this episode, make your own judgement about LBW.

It is very telling how the new president of STTA often wormed her way to be photographed with the players in their victory celebratory appearances.

Having been in the job for about 1 month, she did nothing which contributed to the success and yet she wants to hogged the limelight with the players. Which other presidents of other sports associations does that ?

Singaporeans, don’t be fooled by outward appearances. It is often the little actions, speeches, behaviour, that shows the true nature of a person.

As for LBW, judge for yourselves what kind of person she is.

Agree with Joe. “wormed” is the correct word. Can’t stand the forced smile. Tells you that this is an insincere, opportunistic person. At least Gollum has a sense of humor, no matter how twisted. This one just screams “Mine! All mine!!” Looks like LKY won’t let her stay for long. Noticed the papers have been allowed to carry very unflattering pictures of her?

we are still waiting for the investigation ,when we know the result ?

our government should use soldier according to its ability and character…agressive ones that her should be throw into places like EDB to drive and ensure that all investors comes to Spore to set up their office and plants…someone she is an engineer by training…Let her force the civil servant in EDB to work harder…so that Spore is able to tide over the upcoming WORLDwide recession.

I am totally saddened and disgraced by this lady’s action. What she has done has hurt many people pride. As a president of STTA, she must be sensible and think with a clear head and not jump up and down shouting at the top of her voice on national TV.
Obviuosly, she felt that the credit should all go to her. What has she done?
On newspaper and TV, she seems to be destached from the team. If she cannot get along with the team, she should reconsider her post as it will affect the whole team’s morale and performance. I was so happy that finally Singapore has a medal and my happiness was shortlived when this “black-hearted” lady came out from nowhere throwing her weights around spoiling our moods. We are all human beings, please spare a thoughts for their feeings. This whole episode will be recorded in our Singapore history. Is this what she wants? Now the coach is reconsidering whether to stay on or leave. Who is to blame? . Where to hide our faces? If she is so professinal, then she should be in Beijing to oversee the team rather than Anthony lee.

singapore paddlers who won the olympic medal for us should each be given retention bonus of $100k per year. we definitely will be shameful if any one of them leave now.

All for one here to see her been relief from her positions. There will definitely be an uproar of relief and happiness in the absolute magnitude from the public and netizens. This episode will end in win-win for Singaporean and the PAP and STTA.

I believe this kind of incident happened in many places, many areas, and many countries.

Someone worked hard; and someone ‘played’ hard.

If we are really serious about a gold medal, let’s work and don’t play; especially don’t play politics — that only hurts every Singaporean.

Liu and Anthony have been hurt, and I think their mind has been amde-up to leave the positions — turmoil as well.

Damage-control is needed to rescue the team, and the hope of another medal in 2012

Too many people including people at high places cannot “tahan” that woman… Even celebrity surgeon like Dr Woffles Wu wrote in openly to Straits Times’ Forum today… Let’s see whether PAP would remove this tumour from their organ. I seriously don’t think PM Lee wants LBW to be in his AMK GRC.

Since the government is relaxing rules governing demonstrations at Speakers’ Corner requiring no permits from 1st September as a show of greater political tolerance, let’s see if our recent show of “people’s power” can change things. It is a test case for Singapore government. If nothing changes (ie. LBW stays put), let’s not hope ever that PAP is going to improve its ways.

Unless LBW steps down, the rift in relationship within STTA is going to be permanent — that is only human. The winning players and the coach are all we have. When one leaves or the team’s morale is affected, Singapore is literally at ground zero — or back to the time of Jing Junhong at best.

Quotes and Unquoted replies from LBW (“The New Paper” 28 Aug 2008 Page 73)

Mr Ng Ser Miang Project 0812 Chairman:
“I am quite puzzled as to how a decision like that can be made by the STTA president, who has been in office for just over a month”

LBW Reply: I am a member of PM’s GRC and my God Father is PM Lee. He has chosen me as the President of STTA, so I am the BOSS!

Dr Tan Eng Liang, S’pore’s Chef de Mission:
“if the STTA president wanted to act further, the decent thing to do would have been to conduct an inquiry.”

LBW Reply: What I say and do as BOSS is correct, so don’t question me.

Mr Antony Lee, Team Manager:
“She said we were responsible without even asking for our explanations”

LBW Reply: I do not need to give you an explanation as your BOSS.

Liu Guodong, STTA Head Coach:
“Anyone who would make such a decision clearly doesn’t understand sport, or know how to be a sports administrator”

LBW Reply: As BOSS I don’t need to understand you or anyone else and least what I am doing.

For those getting to know her now including PM Lee:

She is the kind of BOSS:
When she wants you, she will pat you on the head;
When she wants to keep you, she will feed you crumbs;
When she has enough of you, she will kick you out.

Don’ let the Innocent and Poor Kampong girl from Malaysia sing you her Story of her Success and Sympathy for the poor / needy and most of all to Singaporeans. They deserve a much better MP to serve them.

For LBW who is used to threathening people behind the scenes , her TRUE COLORS are finally showing.

Thank you Woffles for the article in ST giving her some “nip and tuck”. She would now need a face transplant having lost her face by now. Should you carry out a face transplant for her please give her a brain scan during the procedure as well…

she appears to be such an arrogant woman. i think to fire a person you should have the right protocol. how can you fire a person without real good reasons, and especially if she is only one month into her post as president. i hope the sports council will kick her out. she is not qualified frankly. and to fire a person behind his back is the worst insult. come on singapore, let us have the right people on top.

crazy woman, how can such a high profile person speak without thinking through her big brian, i think she need to be polished up her moral and go to learn what is call leadership .

crazy woman, how can such a high profile person speak without thinking through her big brian, i think she need to be polished up her moral and go to learn what is call leadership .
a great leader don’t show their anger in the public to shame the country.

luckily she is only a small fly in the cabinet, else the country will be big disaster.
come on LBW, don’t wash the dirty linen in the public. get to understand the facts of the issue before jump into conclusion.

It would really be great if Singapore (as a nation) is able to have a cadre of capable sports leaders, who had engaged in competitive sports in their schooling years.

Personal competitive participation in the sport that they have been “selected or annointed ” to lead should be the minimum requirement for all sports association presidents.

It would be interesting to understand if Ms Lee Bee Wah had participated in any competitive sports – at any level – while schooling in Malaysia.

Aiyah this is nothing new lah! PAP mah! Now you all know why Singaporeans are leaving Singapore & our Ah-gong & Ah-mah are retiring outside SG. No need to get uptight or upset, just think carefully before you vote. No PAP buay-C! They (PAP) are more worry they’ll be out of job when booted out of Parliament than we humble citizens. Chiong ah!

From this write-up, we can probably conclude that Ms Lee did not have much opportunity or time to participate in competitve sports while schooling in Malaysia.

This should not distract us from her other qualifications and conributions.

That said, a pertinent question should be asked as to how the leadership of sports associations in Singapore are selected or appointed, especially those that have some aspiration to be “world-class”.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/sge/leebeewah.htm

I wanted to draw your attention to this important petition that I recently signed:

“STTA President – Lee Bee Wah Please Step Down!”
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lbw?e

I really think this is an important cause, and I’d like to encourage you to add your signature, too. It’s free and takes less than a minute of your time.

Thanks!

She has overtaken TT Durai as PUBLIC ENEMY number ONE.

As Singaporeans, we should be gracious. We will FORGIVE her and let the matter rest if she RESIGN from STTA.

Let her get back to helping the AMK GRC constituency and back to her “Jiak Sai ga chuay Jamban” antics – we paid her millions tax money to do so.

A grassroot leader in AMK said that LBW refers in public to LHL as “our beloved leader”. Her arrogant behavior could be attributed to the support that she gets from her beloved leader. This reminds me of the Great Leader and Dear Leader in North Korea.

To Rainnix,

Agree with you, we could move on with “grace and forgiveness” similar to what has been preached. There are also plenty of lessons with the LBW saga.

The PAP will also have learn the need to finetune its MP selection process and perhaps appoint a Mentoring MP Senior Minister to help prepare their MPs to tasks of sports associations as well.

Closure with a learning curve – everyone wins in Ping Pong – remember Nixon versus Mao way back in the 70s. Action replay on digital………..move on.

Ms Lee Bee Wah vs Dr Vivian Balakhrishnan

It is ironic that with reference to the Gao Ning incident, Dr Vivian chose to investigate the matter thouroughly first before making any decision.

Look at how Ms Lee Bee Wah reacted. Without getting her facts right, without asking the team manager for his explanation, without doing any sort of thorough investigation, she anounced that the jobs of both the manager and head coach hung in the balance. Based on what she made that decision? It seems to be Anger is driving her actions at the spur of moment. It reeks of insensivity, arrogance and high handedness. Is that how PAP rule its country? Is it how residents of AMK are handled and ruled there? I pity the residents from the AMK GRC.

What a contrast of personality.

/// 242) SharpeRatio on August 28th, 2008 9.02 pm
Thank you Woffles for the article in ST giving her some “nip and tuck”. She would now need a face transplant having lost her face by now. Should you carry out a face transplant for her please give her a brain scan during the procedure as well… ///

SharpeRatio – are you a finance guy? Yes, do give her a face transplant. And I am willing to donate the skin from my bum…

When someone made a mistake, I gunned him down. When I made a mistake, I told everybody to move beyond. I’d like to suggest to MOE to instruct all teachers here not to demand for corrections when students make mistakes in their work. Move on, move beyond, Majulah! Once we move on, we would only discover it “7 years” later. All my past efforts and future plans should be able to justify for a little mistake I made. I’m just a little shaky in front of media, never think before I say, at least I didn’t mention supermarkets or caught quoting silly examples. I just don’t know how to handle the 4D winning like success that I’ve have followed for only 1 month. Trust me please. I think someone has fed me some wrong information. Don’t worry, no windows or table tennis ball this time. I’d find something, let’s move on first.

hate_LBW on August 29th, 2008 8.35 am,

You seem to be impressed by Dr V Bala’s promise to investigate the case thoroughly.

I remember when interviewed by the media, Dr V said that he had not read about the saga in the paper.

NO READ THE PAPER? A Minister who was there at the scene HAD NOT READ THE PAPER? I thought all responsible parents would want the kid to read the paper every morning and now we HAVE A MINISTER WHO DID NOT READ THE PAPER???

Holly Ghost! Did anyone see 2 jokers (Koh Fu Ming, Mark & James Lim)comments in the TNP.

I am very anxious to see what is the final decision at the end of the day.

Will it be fair to all parties esp. the manager, coaches and players?

Is it another very high-handed, arrogant and “tell you already I am Boss” kind of arrangement?

Will it consider well for the future development of the team?

Will it consider well for the individual’s well being of those involved? Please don’t say that some individuals have to be sacrificed for the good of the Association. Sacrifices are always from the common folks, hardly from the organisation??

Do hope you can give us a good ending to this episode, Dr. Vivian.

256) Look at how Ms Lee Bee Wah reacted. Without getting her facts right, without asking the team manager for his explanation, without doing any sort of thorough investigation, she announced that the jobs of both the manager and head coach hung in the balance. Based on what she made that decision?<<

Reminds me of the empress Wu Ze Tian and her male escort. Is Gao Ning handsome???

Wong Kan Seng can be FORGIVEN and the parliament MOVE ON after his Mas Selamat fiasco, I’m afraid that Lee Bee Wah will be FORGIVEN and we all have to MOVE ON. This government have no morals.

This lady who is also a MP has obivously followed closely the style of our authoritarian govt, which decides almost everything we do.
Acutally no matter how much complain there is, she will still survive.

I am deeply disappointed that she didnt learnt to be humble when she is only new to the post.

It is foolish for her to give her bosses such problems at this wrong time when everyone is so happy celebrating the medal winning.

She sure come out and admit her wrong in public instead of coming out with other excuses or pushing the blame to others. Afterall the news of non-renewal of contract came out of her mouth.

Whatever she does now will do little to ease the unhappiness of the whole public.

Stepping down gracefully is the last thing she should do to save her face.

I find its funny people paying too much focus on foreign import players/coaches and earning thousands while we still have our own local S’poreans struggling to put bread and butter on the table and giving good education for their kids.

Wake up your idea!

Just move on and provide more opportunities for local S’porean talents to stive in sports as well..

She can’t “let the matter rest” when she started it. I think she need apology to the Singaporean for upsetting the mood of 48 years wait.

For all those here and out there who love this country, love the sport, love your family, love your kids or love your friends, anybody, u would forgive your family members if they made a mistake, you would forgive your kid if they made a mistake, you would forgive the Tom, Dick or Henry living at the 2nd floor of your block, who cant even put bread and butter on the table, if they made a mistake. Please FORGIVE because besides that you cannot do anything else.

For those who think that I have made a grave mistake, you have only yourself to blame. You have chosen me. I became part of you, just like your family or friends, on the day that you chose me. I’m grateful so please forgive (remember para 1?) and I’m looking forward for your continual support because besides writing some comments and move on and continue struggling to put bread and butter on the table, you would still choose me as your most convincing leader. Thank you. Fatal accident killed a prof, north pole melting, Hand foot mouth coming back, dengue, America president election, not enough? Let’s talk about something else… blah blah

Do not allow the euphoria of the silver medal overshadow the issue of Gao Ning playing without a coach. Apparently, the men’s were written off even before they started playing. They’ve trained hard to represent Singapore at the Olympics and to see a totally demoralised player on the world’s stage calls for some really good answers from the people who are in charge.

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Do not allow the euphoria of the silver medal overshadow the issue of Gao Ning playing without a coach. Apparently, the men’s were written off even before they started playing. They’ve trained hard to represent Singapore at the Olympics and to see a totally demoralised player on the world’s stage calls for some really good answers from the people who are in charge.
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I am not saying that we should forgive and forget what had happened to the men’s team. I believe most Netizens and Singaporean are just pissed at how Ms Lee Bee Wah reacted. The way she presented herself in national TV, the cowardly and evasive Ms Lee BW in the aftermath. Couldn’t she have conducted an investigation after we had finished celebrating? Why must she say that she is “bruised”? Is that the way we reward a medal winning team manager and coach? It is the act of ungraciousness that pissed us off.

As a young Singaporean, to speak the fact, I don’t feel proud when other nationality players play on behalf for Singapore. Question is ‘So what’ when our national flag flys high when afterall the players are not pure Singaporeans?

What is the point of spending S$6 million in these ’so-call foreign talents’ to win a Olympic Silver medal for Singapore? The Government should jolly well do something more meaningful with the money to help fellow Singaporeans in need.

Look out for those old ah-peh and ah-um picking up thrash and cans from rubbish bins. How they should be taken care of and not neglected by our society?

So what if Singapore cannot produce excellent athletes for now? Well, I believe the younger generation of Singaporean athletes can be train to put to test in time to come.

Singapore Sports Council and Singapore National Olympics Council should re-amend their approach into these floating issues.

What do we want next time? GOLD? Pay more $$$$ for better mercenary players to become sporeans and give more $$$$ to reward these indivl players. 99% chance of success. Move on and no need to cry. Same like buying toto, more prizes, more bets, more opportunites.

Reminder:
Please sign the petition to remove Ms Lee Bee Wah

“STTA President – Lee Bee Wah Please Step Down!”
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/lbw?e

I read some of the postings here and most are along the same vein. I’m not sure how many actually are involved in the sport or know the ping-pong fraternity. i don’t proclaim either. But I have heard a little bit more info in the grapevine. Apparently, LBW had been engaging the team months ahead of being officially appointed the President. There were “cans of worms” as rightly mentioned by the news. But for whatever reasons, specifics of these “worms” have yet to be heard. From what I have heard, the decision to remove the manager and the coach (is he the head coach?) is more than justified. There were too much politics in the team management and ironical enough, it might take an astute politician to bite the bullet and clean up this mess. I’m sure many will be wondering what was heard in the grapevine and I’ll venture to share a couple (which probably happened):
1. There was an incident where the lead coaches who took a group of students overseas were dead drunk the next day and could not carry out their responsibilities.
2. Our men were made sparring partners for our ladies (reported in the news).
3. An ex-China coach was alledgedly allowed to come in by the “side door”. and apparently was not qualified.

We should wait and hear the full facts before asking for LBW to step down. Otherwise, we won’t be better than her in any way. Besides, she probably has more reasons for her actions than we do at this time.

And I hope that after the investigations, STTA and LBW should take the next bold step and throw open all the irregularities that had happened for such a long time. it is perfectly ok to say that we were realy bad because then we can honestly look to improve.

I doubt whether if she ran for election as an MP in a single member constituency, will she win the eleciton ?

And yet she is an MP, thanks to being in the same group as PM.

What can we do if we want LHL to be PM but don’t want LBW to be MP ? See the drawback of GRC ?

It is definetly not the right time to talk about restructuring the STTA immediately after the achievements.

Moreover, she is our people representative in the paliament, who should be aware of the consequence of making the statement to the media. I would expect our leaders to intelligent enough to know how and when to make sensitive statement.

What is the rush to release the news of restructing when the contract only ends at the end of the year for the coach? The sympathy for the coach and the STTA management will definitely be stronger than her explanation, due to the great achievement in winning a silver medal in the Olympic.

somebody high up there need to do something , either u go or she go .

Let’s analyse the behaviour of our dear LBW

It is interesting to note that up till to-date, there is no apology of any sort.

All she has opted to do now is to decline comment. By declining comment, she is obviously hoping that over time, people will forget and all the negative publicity about her will all tide over.

Which means that she still thinks that she has done nothing wrong. As far as she is concerned, everyone has done something wrong (coach, manager, SPH, etc) except her.

With such an attitude, i ask all – why, pray tell, do we still want her as STTA president or even an MP ??

I feel that Lee bee wah should not just base on Gao Ning’s matter to decide to fire any of the STTA members…. keep in mind that if they were not around with their coaching and guiding, will we still achieve the silver medal?

should be more grateful for the hard work/effort they put in, not just the negative aspects of them.

to err is human.

I think that Lee bee wah should not just base on Gao Ning’s matter to come to the decision to fire any of the members even if they have not perform their duties. Imagine that without their commitments to train and guide the players, will they be able to achieve so much more now? A silver medal!

To advise Lee that she needs to remeber the source when she drink the water.

phrase in Chinese “饮水思源” (yin shui si yuan)

sorry buchi,

Better don’t “饮水思源” (yin shui si yuan) – definitely not when you are drinking NeWater – otherwise you will just throw up…

:)

All i can say that…she is not fit to be the STTA president…nor an MP, she has greatly ignored the sentiments of Singaporeans and always telling us about her famous story of hailing from Malacca in her younger days to Singapore with just a few dollars in her pocket…..i just find it crappy…wonder how she get the money for her uni……

Anyway, to cut a long story short, she had screwed it up big time. Politicians should understand the sentiments of the people and how could she even be oblivious to the fact that our Table Tennis team has indeed created history for Singapore and that the manager does play a part in their success…

She should go…….with such bad publicity for her, the best solution is to resign from STTA and quit PAP and go into EXILE !

Sometimes i find her talk without using her brains……on National TV, she talks about maybe she had to buy Olympic tickets from black market to support the table tennis team…….that is really very wrong of her….what message is she trying to send to the people ? No wonder Lee Jiawei and gang were looking as though they are simply bo chup on TV with her………

Please sack her………we want a gold in London Olympics 2012……..not her waving the Singapore flag like a mad woman on the stands……….

I would advice PM Lee to take her to task and warn her not to take matters in her own hands as though she is the Empress Dowager…or something……

Her dictatorship attitude is sickening and i hope the grassroots leaders in Nee Soon South aren’t crushed by her iron fist…Only a true blue Singaporean can feel for a Singaporean……she no doubt came from Malacca..to do her uni studies and how patriotic can she be ? Do we even assess her integrity ?

I hope she is not running Nee Soon South Constituency like how the Malaysian politicians run Malacca…….

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MADE OR ELECTED HER THE STTA PRESIDENT A MONTH AGO????

CAN THOSE PEOPLE PLEASE STAND UP AND ANSWER TO THE REST OF THE SINGAPOREANS FOR HER ACTIONS ?

PM led AMK GRC had 66.7% votes in 2006 with her………without her, WP has no chance.

I would advice PM Lee to take her to task and warn her not to take matters in her own hands as though she is the Empress Dowager…or something……

Her dictatorship attitude is sickening and i hope the grassroots leaders in Nee Soon South aren’t crushed by her iron fist…Only a true blue Singaporean can feel for a Singaporean……she no doubt came from Malacca..to do her uni studies and how patriotic can she be ? Do we even assess her integrity ?

I hope she is not running Nee Soon South Constituency like how the Malaysian politicians run Malacca…….

WHO ARE THE PEOPLE THAT MADE OR ELECTED HER THE STTA PRESIDENT A MONTH AGO????

CAN THOSE PEOPLE PLEASE STAND UP AND ANSWER TO THE REST OF THE SINGAPOREANS FOR HER ACTIONS ?

PAP AMK GRC had 66.7% votes against WP in 2006 with her………without her, WP has no chance.

There are lots of people in Singapore struggling to make ends meet. So why must we buy foreigners to play for Singapore? Is winning a medal so important to Singapore that the poor are really neglected. The poor are getting poorer and the foreigners are getting richer. Spending so much on sports and our poor Singaporeans left to struggle. So what is the meaning????????

To those who have pretended to be objective and took sides and supported Lee Bee Wah’s acts, you are a very confused person. The subject is neither about whether LBW saw things which we didn’t, nor if her starting point was correct. We shall leave those to the investigation.

It is clearly about her mis-management and high-handed attitude even as a newbie without any respectable credentials. This makes the nation puke. In any case, she is totally dispensable.

Agree. Ms Lee should have handled the matter more skilfully. Being new to the association, she should have talked to others who understand the situation much better than she before deciding how to react. Too eager to show off who is in charge.

You are right, money???? , gigi and Gek Sim.

In my job I have the opportunity to meet with many corporate executives, many of them very senior C-level exectuives. In my personal time I have many friends from the heartland. It is the first time that across such a wide spectrum of society ONE VOICE emerged:

“Lee Bee Wah’s conduct and handling of this incident is totally unacceptable, and as a person, not befitting of a leader”

Unlike TT Durai of NKF saga, there were camps, especially from the corporate world, who thought he did not personally do the wrong thing.

In LBW’s case, it is unanymous.

Food for thought, Mr Government.

In the effort to protect LBW’s image, the government did the wrong thing by trying to portray her in a positive light through many nedia exposure, from victory celebration pubicity with her appearing alogside the lady TT players and chat shows on TV. This unfortunately backfires as the government underestimated the deep negative public feelings towards her. The effort aggravted further her standing amongst all singaporeans.

Hate to say but this saga has reached a point of no returns… She has to go.

My dear fellow singaporeans, she’s just one example of the many high handed MP/Minister in our system. It is sad we have such people running our country. I truely hope in our next GE we can get some opposition into the parliment.

How long do we want to hide behind the “comfort zone” and get bullied by these people who have no regards for average people like us. Whom think they are higher than God?

Edward on August 28th, 2008 11.16 pm “With so much being said over the Table Tennis fisaco, and many calling for the resignation of Lee Bee Wah. It is true, she acted out of tune. Perhaps, she was exercising her role as the top honcho of STTA, but that to me was wrong time, wrong place. She has faulted. But not much has been said about Gao Ning!!! Surprising!”

Found this interesting blog:

When Gao Ning was welcome to Singapore, he felt like first class citizen.
When he was asked to practise with ladies team, he became second class.
Now when he lost at the Olympics, he dropped further to third class.
And when he cried and complained no coach, he became no class.

come on, $ should be invested on the locals instead of splurging them on FT. so what if singapore has a medal? it doesnt improve our lives, we merely gain publicity for that short instant. plus all the criticisms about FT. i believe money can be spent more wisely.

FT come and go.
singaporeans are what make up singapore.
make the right decision.

Now that Ms Lee has apologised, we should let the matter down and focus on preparing the local talent to win the Olympic medal and not still everything has to depend on foreign talents. Everyone make mistakes, let’s forget and forgive!

hehe…. game over

I am sure she learns something from this saga. and hopefully be a better person.

Let’s forgive and forget.

Ever heard of the phrase ” The jungle take care of its own”. The dust has settled temporarily only. So the people can agree with”tks”
But come 2010, prediction is that LBW would not be around the political scene, and she will also resign as STTA president in due course.
What is more important to PAP – votes swing, and from the elected president episode to the present motion of by election – see how stoutly is the PAP’s defence against possible adverse elections results by use of pre-emptions.

LISTEN UP! WE MUST REMEMBER LESS WE FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wise to forgive but not to forget. PAP never fails to select their STUFF. I know who to vote for in the coming election.

Wise to forgive but not to forget. Must remember our fav PAP select.

President (STTA) had to apologise? Sad situation! Now we hv to follow ChinManagement !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will never accept !!!!!!!!!!!!! NO WIN WIN ! Unfair for Ms Lee !!!!!!! No Big No Small !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What kind of management ?????????

I believe some of you here know about the financial problems that some sports bodies faced previously and were investigated e.g. SRU (rugby), SBF (bowling). Watch STTA. Something big will erupt and then perhaps people here will understand. Things are not always what they seem to be. LBW may have been too impulsive but sports associations need someone who can cut thru the rubbish (and the dirt). I had the same impression as many of you here at first when I saw her reaction after the “missing coach” incident. And then the press made it worse (than it should be). I don’t know her at all so I’m also making my points based on the different info I have, same as everyone here. I agree that the timing could have been better but before everyone take sides, make sure you know what are on the other side.

Don’t have to be kind. Just be patient. I hope that the truth will unfold.

Strongly agreed SingManagement. Now their heads must be very big! Miss Lee will have lots of difficulties to control STTA. As a boss’s view …. tough! Anyway, will buy your lucky number 0296 this weekend.

Guess what you say is right, Justice.

Now somebody will justify all Ms Lee had done by slapping Mr. Lee with a sodomy charge.

Maybe Mr. Liu will be implicated as well since he seemed to favour the ladies …..

I guess it is a good piece of guess work, Justice

” I am sorry that my comments were misunderstood” Is not a sincere apology.

Her personalities and “management” style are clear to most of us.

The person or authority that selected her to lead STTA seriously need to be reviewed to prevent this “cancer” spread to other sports associations.

291) . on August 29th, 2008 9.40 pm “come on, $ should be invested on the locals instead of splurging them on FT. so what if singapore has a medal? it doesnt improve our lives, we merely gain publicity for that short instant. plus all the criticisms about FT. i believe money can be spent more wisely. FT come and go. singaporeans are what make up singapore. make the right decision”

For the past 10+ years, we’re merely importing log, stock and barrel – players, coaches, assistants and even sparring partners etc who are below “Level 1’ from the greatest table tennis nation in the world, and hoping against hope, that our imports could be locally groomed to beat the Grand Master in own his game.

However, compare this to at what our ASEAN countries had just won without relying on imports:
Vietnam – weightlifting silver medal in men’s 56 kg
Indonesia – weightlifting bronze medal in men’s 56 kg and bronze in men’s 62 kg
Thailand – weightlifting gold medal in women’s 53 kg and silver in women’s 49 kg Taekwondo
Malaysia – silver medal in men’s badminton single.

Even Togo, a small African nation with a population of 5 million and a GDP per capital of $1,700 (world’s 193rd) had won her first ever Olympic bronze medal in the men’s Shalom K-1 Canoe event.

And war-torn Afganistan, represented by only 4 competitors, managed to win her first ever Olympic medal by taking the bronze medal in the men’s -58kg taekwondo.

Is a silver or even gold medal won by a foreign-born worth more than a bronze medal won by a local?

Think about it, Singapore.

Justice, I think what you should be asking for LBW is mercy not justice. Frankly, whatever financial or big scandal that is brewing at STTA and LBW blowing her big mouth in an untimely, inconsiderate manner are two totally different and unrelated matter. You seem to be going for the argument that the murderer should be judged innocent because she came from a depraved society and therefore influenced by them. It is no fault of her, the blame lies soley on the society.

Real trust has to be earned.

From this episode, LBW has absolutely squandered all goodwill Singaporeans had in her by virture of her being a MP. She had not only burnt her own capital but that of her party too. I find it very difficult to condone her behaviours which seriously bring her character into question.

Yes apology accepted but I don’t think she is fit to remain at helm of STTA. Sorry but she has to go.

My gosh if LBW is considered Div One MP, we are in for some real rough rides.

She is NOT FIT and should be removed.

The fiasco may have ended, but what is done is done, the stigma will remain, leaving behind a bitter after-taste. Relationships strained are very difficult to mend, broken mirror cannot be returned to its original state.

Emotions may be running high after clinching the Olympic silver medal, but that does not give the leader the liberty to lose her head. With this episode, she has definitely proved to be an emotional person, but not a fair person. If the cause of this crisis is attributed to miscommunications, then she lacks the credibility and ability to lead STTA, unless she can achieve greater success, such as delivering the gold medal in a world championship.

Apologising is the best way out of the current situation for everyone, without her being penalised for her mistakes. In Singapore, mistakes made are forgiven or punished, depending on who you are or how well you are connected, not on the circumstances.

DEMOCRACY IN OUR COUNTRY IS AS DEMOCRACY IS…

DEMOCRACY is when One Party Rules:

She (LBW) has the first word…
He (V Bala) has the last word!

Why LBW is the president of STTA in the first place??? former table tennis player ??? classsical example of know little talk big. this is the type of mp who walk into parliament thru GRC. walk behind a big clown . no need much mandate from people. no IQ & EQ

She is NO FIT and should be removed.

She has apologised, it has cooled the tempers somewhat, but she missed the golden opportunity to do it sincerely using the correct words that reflect the actual situation. I could not find the complete transcript of the apology but only those reported in the ST. These words are inappropriate:

“I had made comments which had been MISUNDERSTOOD(actually they are well understood, that’s why the furore) and had upset SOME(s/b MANY) Singaporeans.”
“OUR(s/b MY )action has dampened the celebration mood of our fellow Singaporeans.”

However, her apology has cooled the situation somewhat but the crisis could not be categorically announced to be over. Only when the victims are appeased could it be over. In this case the victims are the coaches and most importantly, Singaporeans, whose euphoria over the Silver medal are killed by the untimely and inappropriate outburst by a newly appointed head. In addition our nation has been shamed in the inhumane treatment of us when we failed.

The euphoria for the celebration is similar to the moment that an important goal is scored during a soccer match, it is priceless. OUR MOUTHS WERE MUZZLED WHEN THE BALL WENT IN – HOW FRUSTRATING IT IS.

somehow the apology comes across as less than sincere – sounds more like its made under pressure from the top rather than herself…..

anthony lee extension of 3 months is kind of lame. is it an attempt to appease the public?

why does ST is such a haste to consider the episode has come to a close? especially after they have reported repeatedly that netizens were unhappy with the saga? shouldnt it be more realistic to gauge the REAL public and netizens reaction before concluding?

is there a need to justify that a blunder at national level is much more severe than one at a single sporting event?

sad that with LBW still there, it kind of enhances the heavy handed image of our rulers. especially when our dear PM did a great job trying to soften the image during his national day rally speech. she singlehandedly erased whatever is painstakingly put into place by our PM.

overall, i cant say i am satisfied with the outcome. there is this lingering feeling that since she is not punished for such a trip, her action is actually cordoned. i think she will get a good beating at the next GE or probably our gov is waiting for the ground response come nearer to the next election.

if the people’s voices are heard and treasured indeed, she shouldnt be around at this time.

VB declared Categorically that the Crisis is Over…

Move on… that’s what we had expected to be told anyway!

By not resigning does she implying to the voters in AMK dare to vote her out in the next GE?

I think a 2% drop in popular vote will mean a big blow to our PM, this irresponsible LBW should not damage PAP and the government.

Please resign to avoid embarrasing our PM and his team.

If she is not a politician, everyone here will appluad her action.

I support her decision. I disagree that we need to sacrifice the weaker to make sure the stronger got he medals. If I am in her position and if someone told me this, it will trigger me to sack anyone.

LBW has learnt well from Mahatir and MY politicians… shooting off w/o using much brain matter. In my opinion she’s not fit to take up the post as she has no sporting experience or sporting association management experience. Do NOT mix politics with sports. Sadly, an engineer will and can only have an engineer mentality, rarely do they have adequate EQ or PR skills. Let the matter rest and “….move on”? I don’t think so LBW, please have a chat with LKY if you’re unfamiliar with his principle. You also single-handedly mistake the population as fools by insulting our collective intelligence. Your networking and manuveouring skills are superb to make it as MP of AMK GRC and President of STTA, for that I applaud you. Other than that, I have less respect for you than our friendly neighborhood loanshark. So what if she has professional accolades to boot, it doesn’t correlate with one’s character, integrity and credibility. It just means that someone can excel in academia and push their personal agenda through strongly enough to get noticed. Stop focusing on qualifications like we’ve all been brought up to and start looking at people for what they ARE.

My condolences to those who were removed and as for Gao Ning, grow up. If all your 4 years worth of training and slogging have to come down to being dependent on your coach, I believe you’re not worth the salt at all. I’ve competed competitively before and I can personally say that if you’re focused, such an incident should not and cannot crush you especially when there’s so much at stake. You, my friend are obviously not a true professional. Go look for your mummy please, we’re done with babysitting and hand-holding people in our nanny state. I have not seen the clips of LBW on the telly but I can imagine all the bad press and damage control that’s going on now.

As someone from AMK GRC, I know who I will be voting for the next round (if I’m still around) and the 66.6% will be the number to beat. The garmen cannot remove her otherwise they will look stupid for making her MP in the first place. It’s all politics and those who want to make a difference can only do so if they enter politics. Everyone else can only look and see and grunt at every single thing that is going wrong in this country. I feel a sickening void in my innards when I see how our society has changed for the worse and I seriously am considering leaving the country for good with each passing day.

Did I mention that I really detest LTA and think that idiots run the place? But I digress…

Oh one last thing… I’m putting in bets now that we’ll not get a medal for TT come 2012, willing to stake my last penny on it! After such a disbanding of a winning team and possible retirement of Jiawei, what hope do we REALLY have? Ask yourselves people… of course we’ll all forget this episode in 6 months time but come 2012 everyone will remember the stink when we come back empty handed for TT, mark my words. A winning team is not easy to assemble and takes a lot of time to achieve.

I do not usually post comments. However, after reading the ST today and the text of the so-called Apology in the NP, I feel compelled to record my opinion (my wife just told me “She has apologised, so shouldn’t that be enuff?…” Well, it isn’t enuff, and here’s why:
Not only is she trying to deflect blame from herself and insult the intelligence of Singaporeans, she has the cheek to implicate the STTA, the coaches and the management by giving an apology ‘on behalf’ of them…the nerve of it all!!! It comes across as self-serving, narcisstic and typical CYA speak. A SINCERE apology comes from one’s heart and a honest admission that one has been wrong. By claiming to be ‘misunderstood’ by others, she does not only not show sincerity but is lying through her teeth – feigning genuine regret and putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of Singaporeans and apportioning blame on the association, coaches and management. Isn’t this a classic case of avoiding the bullet, rather than swallowing the bitter medicine?? While the media has now been told in no uncertain terms (‘crisis is over’…) to lay off further coverage of this, and the BENEVOLENT AUTHORITIES are hoping that this furore will die out soon, I feel it has been dismissed too easily – this is a case of glossing over the issue, putting a positive spin on the episode and covering incompetence at high levels!

I do not usually post comments. However, after reading the ST today and the text of the so-called Apology in the NP, I feel compelled to record my opinion (my wife just told me “She has apologised, so shouldn’t that be enuff?…” Well, it isn’t enuff, and here’s why:
Not only is she trying to deflect blame from herself and insult the intelligence of Singaporeans, she has the cheek to implicate the STTA, the coaches and the management by giving an apology ‘on behalf’ of them…the nerve of it all!!! It comes across as self-serving, narcisstic and typical CYA speak. A SINCERE apology comes from one’s heart and a honest admission that one has been wrong. By claiming to be ‘misunderstood’ by others, she does not only not show sincerity but is lying through her teeth – feigning genuine regret and putting the responsibility squarely on the shoulders of Singaporeans and apportioning blame on the association, coaches and management. Isn’t this a classic case of avoiding the bullet, rather than swallowing the bitter medicine?? While the media has now been told in no uncertain terms (‘crisis is over’…) to lay off further coverage of this, and the BENEVOLENT AUTHORITIES are hoping that this furore will die out soon, I feel it has been dismissed too easily – this is a case of glossing over the issue, putting a positive spin on the episode and covering up incompetence at high levels!

I do not think Lee Bee Wah has the charisma or charm to lead the STTA anymore.

Obviously, the team is not convinced with LBW’s apology and the answers were just short, politically correct. Answers that the team were forced to say to the press. Maybe just to end the whole fiasco.

Well, I am not convinced anyway.

Probably the best thing is for Lee Bee Wah to step down to show her sincerity for her apology.

It would be very disgusting seeing another photo of Lee Bee Wah on the newspaper trying to play table tennis or sitting with the table tennis girls forcing a smile.

Respect cannot be demanded, it has to be earned. Charisma is even more difficult. It you do not have it, please stop trying and let time dilute the matter.

ok, i say sorry la, no choice man. But in fact, i am not in the wrong, not sorry,it’s just that you all “misunderstood” me….
wa, we all so “dumb” do not understand what you are “b…ing” ha ha

Hey, where is your new team. get new players as well la. think next time can achieve not gold but diamonds.

i will definitely not watch any games if still gonna have bw acting again.

I totally agree with the person nicknamed ‘politik’ and I am also in AMK GRC. Usually I do not care about politics, I do not post comments on the internet and I am politically neutral to PAP or opposition. But after this fiasco, I would be very keen to see the next AMK GRC’s results.

Anyway, 66.6% minus the civil servants and grass root people was a 50-50 vote.

#60 smdoe,
The hokkien version is ‘pang sai kyo tor gu lan” (pass motion and found a bull penis)..

Meaning just be lucky at the right place at the right time.

Just one month as President of STTA and the term won the ’silver medal’ and want to act ‘yaya papaya’.

Singapore go down the slippery road of suffering and ruin if we have this type of people in the govt.

Hope MM, SM & PM realise it., otherwise the next wave political tsunami will come to singapore, it have occur in Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand , and even Australia.

PAP have ,have blunders. The present Div 1 term is very disappointing. Fans very hunhappy of their performance.

This player (LBW) have to be sack

323) My comments on August 30th, 2008 4.09 pm

I used to be apolitical but when so much is happening around you that doesn’t make sense, one’s inner being will start to stir and question why this is so. The longer it festers, the greater the urge to do something about it. But when one discovers that doing something is out of reach of most people, frustration sets in. Bitterness, anger, resentment are the later phases which will creep in over time and it’s inevitable unless one is rich and little affected by everyday increases & inflation.

It’s human nature that when most things are going well, one tends to not question much. Only when shit hits the fan then the hordes will unleash their fury like the seventh month release.

We need to keep the incumbent on their toes in order for them to deliver a more palatable environment for us to live in, else they can jolly well forget about replenishing the population and preserving ethnicity. I salute the Opposition for taking up the gauntlet and subjecting themselves to the scrutiny of the public and political opponents. Who knows if there’s a PI following every one of them in the quest of digging up dirt or accumulating ‘bullets’ for political warfare. It isn’t an easy decision to make but they represent the voice of the COMMON people, not just the PhD holders, scholars, elitists and ’sheltered’ people in SG. So in essence,

I would gladly pay more tax if it was directly going to validated needy cases and old folk. However when I see how our taxpayer dollars are being spent or how it’s used to make us pay more indirect taxes (smart people will know what I mean), I think twice about this foolish thought. Why should I pay more to let them pay themselves more and squeeze more out of us? It just DOES NOT MAKE SENSE to little old me. To me, SG does not feel like a home anymore as it does not know how to take care of its people during difficult times. You have to resurrect your animal instincts to survive and that in turn produces the ugly side of mankind. Call it globalization, modernization or whatever fancy pansy term you desire. I call it a stressful life.

I call it the Singapore Fear Story…. where most are ‘crippled’ by fear and I’m one very disheartened Singaporean. National Day? What’s that? I’m sorry but I feel nothing at all, even public holidays have little meaning other than a day off from work. Hey before anyone thinks I’m suicidal, I’m not. It’s just that this place sucks the life out of me slowly but surely. It shouldn’t be like this at all *sigh*

Olympic Silver you say? I wonder if we have to cut the medal in half and Fedex it to China. International sports is just a economy booster as well as visibility exercise, in addition to a big outlay of money/resources. There’s no pride in poaching and then winning something. SG garmen has done one thing wonderfully: TOL (Talent-On-Demand). I’ve never known SG PR and citizenship to be so cheap until in recent times.

I am just wondering if the arrangement is agreeable with the manager, Mr Lee and the coach, Mr. Liu?

Not an opportunity for either of them to express their feelings?

When Dr. Vivian mentioned that “There was no question of Mr Lee being sacked”, I wonder what does that mean?

Why all the puzzles and half-statements??

I feel very deceived if this episode is to end like that

I can’t help but feel the so-called ’sincere apology’ by Ms Lee really lacks sincerity. She apologised for ‘our actions’. But the people are dissatisfied with her actions, not others’. Innocent others are dragged. In fact, there is no need to apologise. Her actions and outbursts clearly suggested that she does not have the necessary calibre, EQ, PR skills to be the head of STTA. This is ther crux of the problems.

Let analyse the situation more carefully.

After hogging the limelight in Singapore Olympics victory, she went on to make public whom she wants to remove. Then she took the position of saying that she made the mistake of speaking to the SPH reporter. Then after further uproar from the public about her behaviour, she took the position of declining comment.

Then after several days of no comment, at the press conference, flanked by Dr V and Teo Ser Luck, she says she is now “sincerely” apologising.

Is this sincere or is it just political correct thing to say to appease everyone’s displeasure of her.

Don’t be fooled be outward appearances and public annoucements.

Quote:
“I had made comments which had been misunderstood and had upset some Singaporeans. I sincerely apologise for causing any grievances and any stress.”
Lee Bee Wah

‘Any’ used negatively, implies ‘doubt’.

Please Dr. V and Teo Ser Luck,

A press conference like this cause more harms…………..

Alamak… I usually supports the PAP but this is disgrace.

I wonder why in so many sectors of our society, we have government people who are not experts telling the experts what to do?

Aiyoh!!! AMK GRC have so many Blogger’s favourite. Wee Siew Kim & family and tis year got Lee Blaahhh Blaaahh. PAP better clean up the mess. Cant imagine Ah Gong is paying for tis type of Stuff. Sure makes it easier for me to know who to vote.

Quote:
“I had made comments which had been misunderstood and had upset some Singaporeans. I sincerely apologise for causing any grievances and any stress.”
Lee Bee Wah

Is not upset some Singaporean, is upset majority of the Singaporean. I believe even Minister Mentor is also upset, right? Minister mentor? Believe me he is reading this.

AMK GRC always produce the blogger’s favourites like Wee Siew KIm & now Lee Bee Wah. Well done, PAP.

aiyo LBW pls go lah, tolong lah, pls dun damage our gov reputation any further lah. u dunno u created a grand opportunity for our dear oppositions to sing about come next GE meh? how come u r so thick skin wan? i m pretty sure if we are to take a vote among singaporeans, majority will say – YOU ARE FIRED!!!

thinking that my tax money going to your pocket i very heart pain!

if u really sincerely care about us singaporeans, pls do us a favour n resign can anot?

Yes, I agree that this apology has confirmed 2 things for me.

1. The apology is so fake and insincere [ as pointed out in the many posts here], that if this LBW is a Div 1 MP, Singapore is screwed. It also confirmed people’s perception that PAP are allowing elistists to be elected as our MP using the back- door GRC system of representation.

Would anyone vote for LBW in the next election if she stand alone in a single ward fight???

2. As for Gao Ning, I watch his entire match and I write him off just after watching his 1st game. Reason is plan simple and plain to anyone who has watch that match. He has no fighting spirit. You can see from his body language and self talk that he is conceding defeat half way to the second game. Any player without self confidence and strong mental attitude has no place at the olympic games. Whether there is a coach or not is irrelevant, he will fail. A player who does not admit his failure and point his finger at his coach not being present is total rubbish.

To take the point further, LBW can point her finger at her GRC leader and mentor LSL for not providing her guidance in this STTA fiasco!

Of the whole saga, I am curious has anyone questions why the coach of Gau Ning only inform the team manager and the chief coach that he cannot be at the match just 1 hr become it starts? Is he really that sick that he cannot be at the match?

Does it make sense that the Team manager should instruct one of the 2 coaches attending to the women team to rush down to the stadium to coach Gao Ning?

If he does that and the women team lost the final, would anyone questioned his decision because the women team ( 3 players) has 1 coach less to attend to them?

She carried the waved violently our flag during the olympics very well …..
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95) Zilch on August 25th, 2008 7.01 pm LBW!

What’s your contribution to the Singapore table tennis team winning the olympic silver medal?

Duh…Absolutely Nothing!!!

She waved violently our flag during the olympics very well ….. thats her contribution.

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95) Zilch on August 25th, 2008 7.01 pm LBW!

What’s your contribution to the Singapore table tennis team winning the olympic silver medal?

Duh…Absolutely Nothing!!!

1) It is a difficult thing for a woman in his political and professional position to say sorry to the nation, headlined the front page on the Straits Times, jeered thousand times on various online forums/blogs. It is a difficult pill already swallowed. I inclined to be gracious on her for that. (whether sincere or drafted speech is a separate study).

2) Singaporean have short memory… Let us care to REMEMBER what will happened to the STTA and those involved about their positions some 1, 3, 6 months or more down the road. What happened then will help us to undertstand what happened today. Lest we forget.

3) On a humourous note: I watched the news that Ms Lee was presented a pair of shoe by Mr Ng SM, to cite the big role she is going to play to upgrade STTA status. Most traditional(supersitious) chinese will know that we do not give shoe as a gift, as to mean the receiver will run away. Was that the wish? ( I hope this comment will not be misunderstood and upset a singaporean, I apologise if it does so).

这个不要脸的女人只是为她所造成的“误会”道歉，而并非在其个人言行上致歉，同时竟然还把别人拖下水，用“我们的行为”（”Our action”）来陪葬，而不敢用个人的行为来道歉，完全没有诚意。呸呸呸！国殇！国耻！

Did she actually apologise? Don’t be fooled!

Often, one’s true strength and character is revealed when one is under tremenduous stress.

Thanks to this episode, Singaporeans now know that Gao Ning is not Olympic material and Lee Bee Wah is not politician material.

I hope our Singapore government now realises that eminent professionals do not automatically translate into outstanding politicians and sports presidents!

It was really very unintelligent for our government to get MPs to helm sports associations. Look at the extent of damage done to your govt’s reputation as a result of your MP, LBW’s actions. Singaporeans are now equating the arrogance of your MP with the arrogance of your govt. As for me, I am beginning to question how many are the likes of LBW in your government. I also wonder how many votes would this episode cost your party.

#338

Rather, my take is, Ng Ser Miang is signaling that she is too big for her pair of shoes …

my guess is that she really feels that she is right and more so as appointed (not elected) President STTA. she is probably saying that she runs a company and she is capable, like it or not. she feels that she has earned it and as MP and IES President n STTA President, she is presidential enuf to do the job. She is the BOSS to order around, not to serve and not to go through thick and thin together.

i foresee more boo-boos to come.

I’ve never participated in a table tennis match, so I don’t know how important it is for the coach to be on the sideline (especially at the Olympics when noisy coaches are sent off from the sidelines, thus they have to be quiet anyway). Yes, I understand the need for emotional support and stuff….but seriously, I thought 99-100% of the coach’s job was done once the match starts?

Now, lets look at the other people involved in this “crisis”…..

COACH:
Accused of: Wasn’t present at the match.
Taken into consideration: Was part of the team which brought us to the Olympics.

TEAM MANAGER AL:
Accused of: Didn’t manage his coaches well.
Taken into consideration: Was part of the team which brought us to the Olympics.

PRESIDENT LBW:
Accused of: Didn’t manage the manager and coaches well, no PR skills.
Taken into consideration: Er….can’t think of any!

OK, so the president of an organisation decides that the culture there would be to fire anyone who makes a big enough mistake – thats the presiden’ts choice. So why is she still around since she’s apologised (and therefore admitted that she’s made a mistake big enough to require an apology to the nation)?? If Antony had apologised and said “lets move on”, would she accept graciously?

We’ve seen this same tactic all the time…..do something wrong, act arrogant, point fingers, say sorry arrogantly, then conclude that we have to put the episode behind us. They can’t even be bothered to change tactics in order to convince the people because they always get away with it.

We used to have respectable leadership, we used to laugh at idiotic politicians in other nearby countries who shot their mouths off stupidly. Nowadays, we don’t have to look that far to laugh, or to be disgusted. Oh, I forget….they’re actually here now, thats why!

I just took a look at STTA’s website, showing its committee members. There are:

1 president (guess who?)
1 CEO
3 honorary presidents
3 deputy presidents
5 vice presidents
5 advisers
20 other committee members (treasurer, etc etc).

Wah piang! More impressive than many MNCs leh!

http://www.stta.org.sg/about/committee.html

Maybe noone else thinks this is a big deal but Teo Chee Hean’s recent statement that enough has been said pissed me off plenty.

‘I believe commenting further won’t help them to resolve their problem. I also think enough has been said about this issue. The only way is to let the team sort it out within themselves.’ – Singapore National Olympic Council president Teo Chee Hean. Mr Teo, who is also Defence Minister, was speaking after the National Day Parade Appreciation Reception.

It was only because Singaporeans on the ground felt compelled to speak up and express our anger and disappointment over the fiasco that officials adopted a more reflective stance and had Lee Bee Wah produce her slow-coming apology.

Please don’t tell us what we should talk about, and how much we should talk about it. We’re still mad about the whole thing, by the way.

How come leebeewah suddenly can become STTA president for no reason? She ain’t qualifed in the first place.

This is good:

174) 你屁话 on August 26th, 2008 8.35 pm 你(讲)屁话

Lots (of) Bull’s Waste (shit)

We are in the cyper-age!! Does she care at all!!

348) JACKSON on August 31st, 2008 5.08 am “How come leebeewah suddenly can become STTA president for no reason? She ain’t qualifed in the first place.”

67) siao liao on August 25th, 2008 4.37 pm
“First question: How did Lee Bee Wah get the job to be president of STTA? Was she a table-tennis player herself? What history does she have to be given the job?

Second question: Does she not know the procedure when it comes to dismissing employees? As president, she should know!

Third question: Why did the STTA change president about only one month before such a huge event like the Olympics? Again, what did Lee Bee Wah do to land the job JUST RIGHT BEFORE THE OLYMPICS?

Fourth question: It’s the perennial question of accountability. It is HORRENDOUS to read in the Straits Times that Lee Bee Wah wants to “MOVE ON”. Is this the kind of Division One MPs we have from the PAP?

These are questions that need answers. Any reporters dare to ask them?”

Should ask the Sports Editor Mr Peh who interviewed LBW in Beijing.

Hi Everyone, She carry a PAP broom anyhow sweep then we can also carry our citizen’s broom anyhow vote liao. Ah Gong’s gonna be very surpise. : ) LKY tok so much about becareful who to select to be our leader then his highly paid gang also anyhow choose. Dearest Leader, See monkey do monkey. We dont need an Anwar in Singapore.

346) PingYourPong on August 31st, 2008 1.52 am

“I just took a look at STTA’s website, showing its committee members. There are:

1 president (guess who?)
1 CEO
3 honorary presidents
3 deputy presidents
5 vice presidents”

Bloody joke, like you said it’s more impressive than some MNCs. STTA has how many overseas branches or arms? ONE… so why the hell do you need so many presidents? Anyone can be a president, including me. In fact I’m the president of my own home! I think I know.. 3 honorary ones to suck up to LBW, 3 deputy for standby and 5 VPs to backup just in case the other presidents are playing golf or traveling. What an org chart!

347) hotcakes on August 31st, 2008 4.14 am

“Maybe none else thinks this is a big deal but Teo Chee Hean’s recent statement that enough has been said pissed me off plenty.”

I concur with you my friend. Well, he’s not DEFENCE minister for nothing :) Everyone of them likes to defend themselves instead of acting with integrity, admitting their mistake and THEN moving on. Zero accountability, arrogance is a trademark of this administration, it’s an open secret isn’t it?

Everything also ’sua sua ker’ (just forget it, let it slide, water under the bridge) when they make a faux pas… how convenient. Don’t try to shut us up or tell us what to think alright? Haven’t you done it enough with the compulsory national service? Brainwashing stops upon ORD! I can’t believe I wasted years of my life in NS in comparison to my overseas peers… damn it.

1 president (guess who?)
1 CEO
3 honorary presidents
3 deputy presidents
5 vice presidents
5 advisers
20 other committee members (treasurer, etc etc).

Anyone know what is the size of organisation before Empress Lee told over as President?
How much do we have to pay for their service?
Who decide on CEO’s salary and bonus?

Was reading today’s newpaper, looking at the picture taken for LBW wiht LGD and AL. Just look at expression on the their faces….. use your imagination….. story far from ending…..
What a shme for LBW…
DOWN with LBW!!!

Lee Bee Wah cause so much trouble to the commitee of stta since she joined, she is not worthy of being the president of stta, she must step down.

Re comments from : 269) Elson on Aug 29, 2008, 270) dragonfly on Aug 29, Aug,
272) Justine on Aug 29,2008 ,

I could not help but agree with you.
As I watched the whole saga unfolds itself, I could not help but feel that there is more to it than meets the eyes.
LBW is only the ignition to a start of a long due fire.
STTA needs to be cleaned up – transparency, fairness and openness need to be in place.
So what we have won a silver medal ?
I would be most proud if a true Singaporean won a bronze instead.
The feelings for a country do not happen overnite. I am proud to be a Singaporean.
Although my country is not perfect, I have deep feelings for her. I am born and raised here. I have my family and friends here. This is what it matters.

Our own children should be nutured to take on this role, and not to rely on foreigners for everything.
But the response for this is luke-warm, one would argue.
Yes. That’s because the support is not enough.
The public, especially the young, should be encouraged to take on sports according to their interests.
More venues should be catered to the training and nuturing our own Team Singapore. Yes, it takes time. But one day we will make it.
That, will truly be our glory.

PAP always boast that the MP they have selected are both high in IQ and EQ, but this whole saga reveals seriously otherwise. Is Lee Bee Wah’s incident a flaw in PAP’s high profile selection process????

What we see in Lee Bee Wah is the typical authoritarian and totalitarian mentality of PAP government.

Lee Bee Wah can get away easily with such blunders in Singapore, because the PAP government’s tight control on the media and freedom of speech. In Hong Kong or Taiwan, she would have been shamed publicly for her stupidity.

We cannot expects anything with PAP government’s highly manipulative GRC policies, which brings in “back-door MPs” like Lee Bee Wah.

Many of these newly elected or appointed ministers had demonstrated that they totally have no regards and could not identify with what’s happening to the majority of the under-privileged Singaporeans who needs to struggle day in and out for their livelihood, just like Lee Bee Wah had failed to appreciate the situations of the incident and reacted just based on her own perceived elitist’s way of dealing and solving matters.

Lee Bee Wah and many other PAP MPs needs to understand and constantly remind themselves that they are in the “people” business, without which, they are of no relevance to our society!

Factors cause incident. Without knowing do not jump into conclusion. To perfect matter some sacrifices have to be done at the right time and for the goal. NO finger pointing , saying and doing is a different matter.If we cannot perfect the matter do not deepen it. Show your Singapore Spirit in your country and to the world.

Quote: “At the AMK hub NTUC Xtra this morning, Ng Ser Miang gave Antony 7 tins of milk powder.”

Ooooooooops! Sorry AL, I thought you are Gao Ning. Please give them for me.

Quote: “Ng Ser Miang presented Ms Lee Bee Wah with a pair of running shoes.”

Sorry LBW, I think this is the right size for you.

Dear All

Lets MOVE ON. Our Table Tennis is dead !

If you make a mistake and you’re not needed anymore, then….

1) You will be found guilty in the morning.
2) You will be executed the same afternoon.
3) No appeals, no excuses, no need to wait till you get home even.

Striking similarities to the regimes of Pol Pot, Chairmain Mao and Kim.

Oh my God, we’re doomed.

She should be removed not only as President of STTA but also from MP position a well.

Lim Pey say already: “…Let It Pass !!” “…Drop It !! “…Move On !! … You All still dun want to nge nge ai (Persist). How come ?? Whats your problem man !! ???? Whats going on !! Are You All missing the point or what !!???

‘Cos Lim Pey ……. Gong Jiao Way.

This is simply a marriage by force. I don’t think it is going to work because the ill feeling is always there. Good feeling is crucial for team building. It should be built from bottom up. Relationship is difficult to build when the good feeling is lacking. I have no confidence for 2012. Let’s move on. Get a new president!

the message to bring across is talk what you like, after all, next moment, we just say move on … and forget…. but only for the d…. (you know what?)

Quote From: Tansukoo 3:25 am
To: ALL (1 of 8) 2468.1

“Singapore Table Tennis Association Board Members.

Advisers: Ms. Grace Fu Hai Yien Mr. Liang Eng Hwa Mr. Yeo Guat Kwang Mr. Chan Soo Sen Mr. Choo Wee Khiang

Honorary Presidents: Mr. Goi Seng Hui Mr. Tony Phua Mr Seah Moon Ming

President: Ms. Lee Bee Wah

Deputy Presidents: Mr. Jack Soh Tze Churn Mr. Ng Ah Hwee Mr. Seah Chwee Lim

Vice Presidents: Mr. Low Chee Seng Mr. Chew Soo Sheng Mr. Teo Hock Hoe Mr. Han Ngge Juan Mr. Lau Pub Taai

HonorarySecretary: Mr. Soon Min Sin

Honorary Assistant: Secretary Mr. Teo Nam Meng

Honorary Treasurer: Ms. Judy Sim Hock Cheng

Honorary Assistant Treasurer: Mr. Tang Shiuh Huei

Legal Adviser: Dr. William Koh Hai Keong

Committee Members: Mr. Foo Soo Peng Mr. Chia Wing Yew Mr. Tang Mun Fai Mr. Pang Tow Chai Richard Mr. Oh Eng Tiong Mr. Ong Teng Dit Mr. Tan Guan Kee Mr. Thomas Yong Mr. Loh Men Kuan Mr. Chan Pong Heng Mr. Steven Loi Mr. Chang Foo Chiang Mr. Timothy Ng Cheong Lum Mr. Ho Kok Khun Mr. John Tan Wui MengChief Executive Officer Mr Jackie Tay

Auditor: C C Yang & Co

While everyone is celebrating the success of the Table Tennis Team, we shall not forget the contribution of all these people who have worked very hard behind the scene to make it possible. They are the unsung heroes in this saga and some recognition must surely be due to them.All 38 of them, including one minister of state, 3 MPs and one ex MP.”

Most people will accept outcome of such ill sagas before the salary hike episodes. I am indeed sadden with what had happened.

Say what you like, – when rewards are self given – there will never be the same goodwill of giving face whether it is TT or a cycle in the park without bench marking said occasions.

Money is now equated to the need of perfection of performance whether it is LBW or not. So I suggest to close with no further comments.

Let me tell you all a story :

Once upon a time, there was a president of an MNC who made a serious mistake that costs the company a great loss of reputation. Many shareholders of the company were very unhappy with her. But the president was very defiant and tells the shareholders : ” You bunch of goondus! I am the president, ok ? All of you just shut up. I know what i am doing. If you all make somemore noise, I will sack all of you!”

Shareholders became more unhappy and start to talked amongst themselves : ” wah lau! what kind of person is this. alamak!, shit, we appointed the wrong person. Let us all petition for her resignation!”

A few days later Chairman of the MNC heard about the commotion. He is worried that things are getting out of hand. He calls the shareholders and tell them : ‘ relax everyone. just cool it. Let me check and investigate and i will tell you the outcome later”

Later chairman called another meeting with the shareholders and tell them :” Alamak! you all overeact lah ! I have investigated. Now case closed and move on !”

President moves forward with Chairman standing beside her and said:” Aiyah, you all misunderstood me. But if it makes you all happy, i say sorry ok ? sincerely sorry, ok? Happy now ? Now move on lah”

This is a lesson on Management 101, Chapter 1 : “Management by fear and deception”.

Post note : A few months later Chairman and president had a meeting, President said :” wah lau, heng ah we manage to tide over the crisis and the bad publicity.” President replied : ” Aiyah, chairman, dun worry. i already said these shareholders are goondus. Can easily bluff one. They will forget very quickly. See now ? You keep you job and i get to keep mine. Nothing change. Goondus means goondus!”

It is damm sad to be a singaporean…cos there will never have any answers when the ppl on top screw it up.
I reckon it she is an opposition , she will be cruxified.

upz upz! still very much alive!!!

u demoralized STTA
u frustrate singaporeans
u damage PAP reputation
u demonstrated ur penchant for motor mouth

y r u so dumb?? new shoes r for u to WALKI!

case closed. move on. such good boys and girls. *argf* * *argf*.

Oh, the Olympics is coming…I die die must be pansaident. Then I can go to Beijing foc and can show my round sai and wave like mad (you do look so)and oh yes, must face camera, so that the world world know what “sai” is. Oh..oh cameraman, quick, did you see this piece of “sai”, quick, quick, take my picture. Pls, pls take my picture. Guess you have not seen this dot of sai…This is the last to show….

Oh, wow, think this team got chance leh….what should I do? I die die must get all the credit mah, see, must tell everyone i am the “sai” who managed this team, i bring the “metal” back.
Aiyah, do not know if anyone saw & noticed the “sai” or not? Okay lah, more impact….. I better start with something else first….ou..ou..ou.. why nobody here to … (or are you no longer around that you cannot be there)

Oh, so now everyone noticed, is wondering what this is….
Is it a “doK” is it a …. what creature or… Ah, I got everyone to get my attention….
Oh, finally everyone know.
i succeeded, now know what “jamban” & “pansai” is.. so know this “pansaident” now…
Oh, what an uproar…. ……closed door……you do this ok… i do not need to disclose…say this and they will forget….aiyah, just a word only lah..
Ok, lah, sorry but you misunderstood me….. and on behalf of …..
ok, closed case……make enough….. go make “babies” now….

Ok, next time, tell my “babies” : mistakes, never mind, got grandfather, godfather, enough…say sorry la, but you do not understand only….on behalf of everyone, but not me, you know,….. do what you like, lah…. no problem…..close door can already….

wow… what an idiot… with dumb people like this heading our sports associations, i guess we can wait another few decades for the next Olympic medal…

Interesting. Not enough coaches. Yet so many in the STTA management. 38 of them. Wonder how many get paid? Seems that besides vice presidents, honorary presidents, and deputy presidents, we still have room for associate presidents, assistant presidents, and customer relations presidents (we need this one!).

abc – You r right. It’s gonna be long wait for the next medal from the STTA. I’ll git my nephews to watch for their next medal as I dun wanna be but of the population production team. Mr PM can afford expat home team.

LBW mentioned something like she had a new CEO and Technical Director. Anyone knows what the function of a Technical Director is? Study pingpong paddle ergonomics arh?

For those curious about STTA’s employee and financial information (general info only), its actually posted on their website: http://www.stta.org.sg/about/financial.html

At the bottom of this page, you will find “No. Of Employees (2008): 52″.

Lets assume that none of the committee members are employees (which may or may not be the case), then we have 38 committee members to 52 employees. Must be a very caring organisation, since each employee can have almost the individual attention of a committee member.

How come there’s no Senior President and President Mentor in their ranks?

coming up soon, not only with sp / pm, next on line is mm,mw, mon.,,,don…

What is undeniable is that the government has very good leaders (eg. LKY, LHL, GCT, TT, Tharman etc). U**fortunately, the remaining 99% of its executives (and that includes those hiding in the civll service as directors and senior managers etc) are really useless.

Then again, if you are those leaders would can you do? You chop them off, you cannot even function! Already some of these people are so paranoid about making mistakes that create tons of redundant paperwork to cover their ass and pass out difficult jobs to the private sectors while they hide behind the curtains providing reports that are extracts of third party documents/information.

That’s what you get for being a small country, you have a bad drought of talents and you have to make do with scums. In this case however, Ms Lee is merely exhibiting her natural traits as a woman…she thinks with her heart.

As for the rest, its not as simple as we think. If you really want good executives under the government then these people must be subjected to close scrutiny and be made liable for their actions which is only right given their extremely high salaries.

One does not get paid high salaries and then when things are not working smoothly blame it on the subordinates. That itself is a reflection of the person’s lack of integrity. Such a person should not even be a candidate in the local RC, not to mention the cabinet.

Lee Bee Wah simply doesn’t have the quality to be a politician. i just wonder why our PAP government recruited her in the 1st place! She is one of those PAP politicians who should leave public office immediately!

She said result is not important and that a coach must not only be professional but must have intergrity. Does she really knows what the hell is she talking about? Coach Liu should straightaway issue her with letter of demand for such defamatory remarks made by her. Coach Liu should not bother to go and talk to her and ask her to clarify. What is there to clarify when her defamatory words are crystal clear?

She is just not fit to be a community leader.

She really thinks we, Singapore, has plenty of money and so we can hire any top coach we want. She is damn stupid. In fact for anybody who subscribe to her view is also stupid! Who is the best table-tennis coach in the world? He is none other than Liu Guo Dong’s brother, and who is the principal coach in China. Only his brother, Liu Guo Dong, could come near to the world best coach! Maybe Lee Bee Wah really thinks we have “Tai Ji Ping Pong” as featured in the recent MediaCorp’ series.

Now I only wish that Liu Guo Dong will built up a strong team in Indonesia and then beat the shit out of the Singapore table-tennis team in the next Olympic in London in 2012. That will shut the mouth of foolish and yet arrogant people like Lee Bee Wah!

For a country that pride itself of meritocracy,I cannot understand how come the table tennis coach was been deny his contribution to the sport ,but instead the current president is trying to claim all the credits that she does not deserve a wee bit except to make a mockery of herself on tv during the Bejing Olympic.I agreed fully that she should step down from her post in STTF and also the ruling government should consider carefully her commitment to the serve the people in her constituency with her kind of attitude and arrogancy.

Oh, she once was a pantry maid and understandarbly, not too much sugar and more stirr-up would be fine -” that’s her !”. Can’t blamed her as her style almost reached the pinnales of any North Korean suffering from immense menopause.

OR EITHER,

This broom was good in the eyes of our junior ministers and unknowningly, which swept badly in Malaysia and was discarded some red-light corridor in KL. Some ministerios wise-guy pick it up in view of recessions and tried hard using it in Ang Mo Kio. Now, Ang Mo Kio smeellled !

Why don’t we lit-up this broom before it fired the entire nation of Singaporean ?

Our foreign investment plan gone wrong – just having too much strangers around until Singapore blurrrrrred-lah !

I’m surprise that someone who just join the STTA recently celebrated the winning of Olypmic sliver by the Singapore girls like if she has contributed a lot to the success. I was futher surprise that such a person even have the guts to put down a coach who has contributed to the success of this team.

A good leader is someone who would reconigise the contribution of his team members, definitely not someone like LBW who only know how to critise and deprive a good coach who contributed to the success of the team just because of personal opinion.

Like it or not, a win is a win. Without LBW, I believe Singapore girls will still win but without the coach I doubt so…

I think she is disgrace to Singapore. For not awarded the reward to the coach that brought us the sliver medal. But I do agreed that there is nothing to be proud that it wasn’t a local that won the medal. Singapore is a developed country yet we can’t even allocated funds to spur the young generation here to be interested in sport. Main Reason we are brain washed in such a society just to study and work for money cos being a sport get you no more, maybe a taxi driver after 35.

Lee Bee Wah

Let the matter rest and move on, no so simple if you had made the blunder say sorry and step down let a more capable person take over.what are you waiting for , to be booted out is it?

LBW GO STTA is not your area of expertise, go and do what your are electected to do i.e. MP work and speak up for those poor and under previledges people

As an MP, she suppose to show grace & humility. Yet, she is so arrogant & high-handed. Is she using her position as an MP to security her position as the president of the table-tennis association? Or the table-tennis association backed her because she is an MP. Don’t forget she is elected into parliament by ordinary citizen & suppose to be a “父母官” but I see her only trying to gain for herself fame & glory.

Look. it’s the result that count. S’pore got a silver medal. So lets sack LEE BEE WAH, and re-employ coach liu. Furthermore she is not fit to be an MP as well.

Her statement gloriusly charged that Gao-guy was not babysit by coach when he was performing. Does a professional players need to be babysit or he’d lose because he was unable to face his opponent ?

The sport council did not hold or deliberate this statement but rather switch-over to some non-important issues to distract the mass from seeking pure justifications from the council. Perhaps tp save face again !

What most disgusting is, a guy stood for her despite not knowing her well enough and just because he was in the association for 16-years. Just wonder if he is also being denied the crown, what will he do ? Guess he is admiring LBW behind the scene for quite a while. Better off for him to shit his gaps.

Now, If her statement holds the truth, then I suggests all our national players should be compulsory babysit by all their coaches, family, friends, grand-parents and the entire nations even if they abroad for competitions.

If LBW by her retaliations denied her statement, her actions evidently personified her personal-vendetta on this coach by using Gao. ” Hidden Tigeress Croaching Gao-babe. ”

Having to kill a mocking-bird, what T-guy is waiting for V-guy or vice-versely ?
Afterall, don’t both of them having enough headaches or prefers more ?

KICK HER OUT of our COUNTRY, be gone back to her sodomy-country, perhaps she will add more jazz to the already steamy menu.

Lee Bee Wah is quick with her words without careful thoughts and thinks she could get away with it. “Head will roll”, who’s head now?.

<<<<>>>>

The above statement is only hypothetical, were they really asked the question? If so, it should be stated that “less than half of the players agree….. rather than “IF YOU ASK….”

The media had mistakenly labeled the previous incident as the “Gao Ning Incident” rather than the “Lee Bee Wah incident” . Now are they going to again make the same mistake and call it the “Liu Guo Dong incident” or should it be rather apt to call it “Lee Bee Wah incident 2″ just like naming any popular sequel.

She is politically naive to commit these embarassing incidents, now even the President or All the King’s horses and All the King’s men cannot save her. Only the sacrificial ceremony is in waiting.

This statement refused to appear on comment no. 394

STTA: Association president MS Lee Bee Wah, in an earlier reply to the media, said: “IF you ask the six players (who competed at the Beijing Games) IF he is deserving of the Coach of the Year, less than half will agree.”

It is extremely saddening that we have reached such a state to have to harbour such foreign opporturnists as LBW to govern the lives of true born Singaporeans
who have to defend the country with their lives. LBW and all those like you please pack up and go back to Malacca or elsewhere now that your motives are exposed and you have shown your true colours.

i am glad this happen or else those PR or new singaporean think that singapore is a great place until they are poor or bully by the goverment, those pap MP are administrator they are shove in by the back door, do they really wlak the ground.

I am glad i dont vote for then for the last 3 elections.

LBW really loser lo.. just join nia.. talk big.. KNS!

LBW better step down AMK GRC by next elections.. either say she tired wana rest liao or she nida take care of her ginna (if she have) IF NOT adopt one… then use this perfect excuse to step down.. how else to save her face? HAIZ total noob la.. WHY NOT SHE STEP DOWN PLAY DOTA? then let ppl disiao her see she happy anot… provided she use her fullname as dota nick =))

ABOUT LBW ’s statistic,
Till this very moment of her dying days, she ‘d the audacity to quote a meagre quota of 6-stupid PRC players and proudly announced 3 of them rejected this Liu-guy.

This statistic is rather strange and comparable to any ordinary aunties found on the street contemplating on chap-ji-ki. The Top-man called this “Coffeeshop-Talk-lah + old ball figures ! ”

I believe she should read this forum and she would be overwhelmingly amazed how popular she is with the pure and original S’porean. This forum actually shown 99.5% condermed and opposed her very existence and wouldn’t this numbers spelled her failures from the starts to this very end.

One thing for sure, she had a facial image that ressembled a table-tennis bats that made her a table-tennis queen though she forcibily entitled herself to being as one.

BELOVERED MEDIA,
Our stupid media advertised those PRC’s TT/Players just because they got silver and why don’t they chose to advertise our pure breed S’porean ? if I had correctly quoted our pure breed, whom had also steered Gold and Silver in other events for our red-dot. Why paid much for these ungrateful PRC and acrosss all channels inclusive cable-channels?, aftreall, their loyalty remains a big question-marks. Media-people,please wake-up, rather have your own says than followed the conventional, just-do-it from those jugged-head superiors of yours!

LOYALTIES,
Who will they fight for, if S’pore in war with China in World-War 6th, even in a day, we would be wipe-out ?

I have decided, after reading about Lee Bee Wah and her exploits these past year. She is more suitable for Malaysia type of politics ( sodomy, sex trysts in hotels, pictures of sleeping half-naked ). If Lee Bee Wah stands for the next election under PAP ticket, I will vote the Opposition. Who agree with me here ?

I agree with Sick2theBone.
The evil to all cores of discontentions arises from non other than our policies-makers.

Foreign-workers cheap-cheap-lah ! PRC & Malaysians infact are the worse-lots of ungratefuls, bunch of infidelities and a bad billard-players. If they are chinese, all is OK, even if they becomes chicken and ducks in the alley of geylang- their homes.

Our home-grown coffeeshops owership now shown to be PRC’s owners, some of our most exciting local food stalls also occupied by PRC’s owners.

As for those malaysians, like their Sodomy-Leader Mahatir. They stole our expertises, robbed our systems, enjoyed our nation’s peace, jealous with our achievements and then betrayed S’poreans with their all out cheap-salaries.
Better for them to go back to their Sodomy-Country and sell soto-mee with their cabinets.

All because of the fatal calculations to stop at two resulted with floods of immigrants in and out. Even our local chicken lost-out with those PRCS when comes to $50 x 3-course verses at $50 x 1-course. Spoilt the Hann-Cheng!

Bottomline, while we payed taxes to accomodates all this lame and lumb pigs and goons to live-off well at the expenses of our well regarded struggled S’porean whom actually deserves more than them.

We should used LBW’s broom to sweep all this bigots PRCs and idiots Malaysians back to their troubled countries of eternities.

The comments here seems to have gone wild with mud-slinging, vulgarities and discriminatory remarks about PRC and Malaysians. These remarks would lead us nowhere but to trouble. The remarks should be civil and objective. Could the moderator do something.

She should show be civil enough to meet coach Liu after bad mouthing
him to the public. That is the least expected of her. Or she believe you can
run and hide. Is this the standard we expect of our MP. The GRC with
her is going to loose lots of votes including mine in the coming election.

frankie speaking… can Wee hav someone who’s m0re zai in AMK GeeRc u noe?? ZAI as in garang la u noe?? AHHH means power la.. boleh understand?
walaowei.. or else i think this grc Buaykan liao.. must hav someone good like
mr vivan bala xXxx (paiseh i dunch noe how to spell nia) or mr Thamade as the leading man la.. =))

my 10cents worth of idea hor.. =))

ONCE AGAIN Everybody!!!

PAP WAN SHUI!!!
lol

LAI!!!!

This “Concerned-dude” is indeed a hypocrite.

What was your concerns about ? What vulgarities were you refering to? if you fantasized LBW’s in your midst-too bad, if your taste was spoilt. You really got poor or cheap taste. Besides, I hope you’ll support S’pore chicken or ducks than PRCs dod!

Life is real babe! nothing to hide or pretend as if all is well. Why do you read if you don’t like what you read ? isn’t your complains instead of concerns, had proven your absolute stupidities. Are you a S’porean or just another bump? living on the well being of our pure S’porean.

You are simpily naived to the core of an idiot. Aren’t those lame Northern-neighbors parked in Singapore are just a bunch of loafers? If not, why don’t return to your country and creates big-waves there? Can’t blamed you if you are really one of those.

Anyway, can you and your sweety LBW do something good for S’pore ? by being quiet or else just go back to Sodomy-country-lah.

Take no offence babe ,cuz you have to be rounded outside and not a square within a square. Life is not as rosy as you imaged to be and its also senseless to behave intellectually while realities mauled you without any answers. Be good and off you are.

LBW probably was told to “SHUT UP & SIT DOWN”, Govt have enuff to handle with all their appointed clowns shooting unncessary comment the past month. LCL probably put a mouth guard on her prevent what’s bad enuff.

He probably was told to “SHUT UP & SIT DOWN”, Govt have enuff to handle with all their appointed clowns shooting unncessary comment the past month. LCL probably put a mouth guard on her prevent what’s bad enuff.

Dear Kopi O King, – referring to your comment number 406.

When I referred to vulgarities, I did not have any particular person in mind. However, after reviewing comments posted from ‘LBW incident 2′ , I noticed that Kopi O King spout many of them especially referring to SODOMY(defined as ANAL INTERCOURSE) in comments no. 392 and 402.

Your argument “why do you read if you don’t like what you read” does not make sense at all.
You are calling people from Malaysia and China derogatory names. Those words are not diplomatic and cause enmity between us and our foreign neighbours.

I am not Pro-LBW but I am Pro-Singapore. LBW has brought shame to us for behaving so lowly twice. We should calmly and objectively air our displeasure to the authorities who can then ‘graciously’ remove her. Shouting, cursing and swearing relegates us to the status of mobster and can then be easily dismissed as such, making us lose our breath and getting no results.

Now I hope you understand Mr K.O.K. She had dug a deep hole on 2 occasions, don’t force her to jump in but let someone graciously lead her into it. Then the surface would be calm once again for us to aim for more Olympic medals.

Hi Concerned,

I am amazed with your ability to distort the entire text which in obvious, I
am entitled to my opinions regardless to how it was written.

If my statement, though un-intended for can aroused you to such filty-wetty
state of mind, I am appalled!

Sodomy is a word that can be used in either ways and not unneccesary to be
vulgars then descriptives unless you are far more guilty
youself with your life-time. The political scenerio from our northern
neighbours had often spiced herself with such topics and I supposed
any heartland Ah-Soh would knew the mastermind MAHATEARSSS!!

Certainly I hope you are not one of those pretending to be democratic,
harvesting a commis mindset and doing things discreetly and full
of hidden secrecies.

Next, till you are eaten off a bit at a time like elephant, tell that to
Sam, what’s diplomaties all about ? As I already enlighten you on
such potent threats of this invasions is already here for real. For sure we
should be proud of the facts that we are South East Asian
Fellows and of the diluted types unlike from mainland that spoke with
twitching-tongues.

What enmity are you moaning about ? Singapore economic predictions was on
average of 4 ~5 % for the pasts 10-years while mainland
had a robust-growth of 11 ~ 13%. Did those mainlanders gave you or our
nations 5% shares of their economics ? If your answer is no!
I suggests you rethink cuz’ they don’t give and yet they invades for more.
Evidently and even our business-wise government got conned in
Suzhou. Last of, doesn’t mean we are chinese suggested we’ve have those
special priveleges form mainland – that’s a pure misconceptions
which doesn’t re-inforced a fact just because one man said so in ” kwang-si
!” Real world babe…., there’s no such things ! even liu was
battling that with your sweety lbw.

I admired your immense pretenses and hypocrisies but you can Do yourself a
good favors, don’t re-educate me with those squiqi cell-study.
I don’t need your antidotes much more than your sweety LBW needed
desperately. I don’t force her but but neither could I stop our great
and beloved anti-lbw’s supporters ultimately voiced that she should be
ship-out as soon as possible.

What else can you do, being a one-man crusades? Perhaps you too can join
the revival of the long-march with gongs and drums and scream
your yourself hard to your beloved prc’s idols. Off-course they will
rewards You 1% of their GDP instead of waiting for your TOTO to burst
…, go-on boy!

I have no idea how this came to anal sex? (didn’t bother to read anyway :P)

I’m not sure that the imported team winning a “Silver” is even a national joy by the way…

Josh,
I couldn’t agree more to that over-jubilant swing just for a mere piece of silver and with those over exaggerated adverts placed in every pay-channels to have them immortalize.

The price of one-piece of silver couldn’t be expensive compared to the amount taken-out from tax-payer’s money, with an extend to who cares ? by the associations and organizers.

Such insinuations definitely hurts our true breed S’porean team having being side-lined despite their roars or meow, on all out to win like 300-spartan does.

Our home-grown un-principled medias with those usual stereo-type mindsets anxiously acted proudly as traitor against our true breed S’pore teams while wagging its tail happily to one-man views on kwang-si instead with the true on “fung-pee! ” (farting).

The SILVER COATED MEDAL or even a pure silver medal is worth nothing if it is not won by our local born Singaporean.

And to add;

if our political leaders are not local born, they are worth only as much as THE SILVER MEDAL WON BY THE IMPORTED FOREIGN TALENTS !

410) Kopi O King on May 30th, 2009 9.42 am

Very good rebut. Keep it up.

Some people think that a piece of silver easily bought with $$$ (which is actually a closed contest among some super species in a game where a small rounded celluloid barely 4cm in diameter is being hit around) in this money world is a sign to some golden era to come.

Hi Ah Soh,
You are doing great and I am impressed with your quick evaluations.

You certainly earned my vast support to parliament to oust those foreign cockroaches out of our shores and those happy-tailed wagging s’porean
like Concerned and those single-minded politicians and their cohorts to
Alcatraz island or Guantanamo-bay.

Dear Mdm LBW, with all due respect and thanks to the way you handled this entire matter, i’ll surely vote wisely with an informed at the next election.

Yours,
a resident @ AMK

oh no i live in Ang Mo Kio!!