Comments on: Payback time? http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/ a community of Singaporeans Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:26:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: anon http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-19887 anon Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:32:31 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-19887 I don't get it. They don't extend their re-entry, they don't get to re-enter. That's a basic policy, so why should these people get special treatment just because they are from supposedly opressed Burma/Myanmar? It's not a Burma thing that strikes and protests are banned in Singapore. These activities are frowned upon in general. So now that you think Burma is in trouble we should close one eye let them fuck up our own social stability? If you ever thought that protests would get you anywhere in Singapore to begin with, you must be a moron. If you want to be cool and hip by joining the "I-feel-good-with-a-crusading-cause-against-supposed-political-opression" party, that's your problem. We're not a refugee camp. I don’t get it. They don’t extend their re-entry, they don’t get to re-enter. That’s a basic policy, so why should these people get special treatment just because they are from supposedly opressed Burma/Myanmar?

It’s not a Burma thing that strikes and protests are banned in Singapore. These activities are frowned upon in general. So now that you think Burma is in trouble we should close one eye let them fuck up our own social stability? If you ever thought that protests would get you anywhere in Singapore to begin with, you must be a moron.

If you want to be cool and hip by joining the “I-feel-good-with-a-crusading-cause-against-supposed-political-opression” party, that’s your problem. We’re not a refugee camp.

]]> By: Mr.Wonder http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-18671 Mr.Wonder Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:47:57 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-18671 Dear Zeyar, I absolutely agree with you and appreciate your Democracy movement in Singapore (In Singapore, although the political ground is in Burma). The action taken by SG government may be a shameful act as you said, but remember, your life will be miserable if you do it in Burma. And I am wondering why those activists don’t/didn’t do the strike aginst the Myanmar military regime in Burma and why is it in Singapore? Note, I was one of the YIT students during 1996 and our hostel campus (Tha_mine campus) was surrounded by SPDC soilders during the examination period and I am wondering where you are at that time… Dear Zeyar, I absolutely agree with you and appreciate your Democracy movement in Singapore (In Singapore, although the political ground is in Burma). The action taken by SG government may be a shameful act as you said, but remember, your life will be miserable if you do it in Burma. And I am wondering why those activists don’t/didn’t do the strike aginst the Myanmar military regime in Burma and why is it in Singapore?

Note, I was one of the YIT students during 1996 and our hostel campus (Tha_mine campus) was surrounded by SPDC soilders during the examination period and I am wondering where you are at that time…

]]> By: zeyar http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17745 zeyar Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:53:30 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17745 It is very shameful act of singapore government. They may say, immigrations permits may be revoked for various reasons, but it is unofficially obvious that above case is related. Those involved in demonstration is not the threat to singapore, and no criminal acts done from view of human rights, but singapore government responded in such a punishment. There is entitlement called permit for public demonstration, but has there ever been approved before??? It is because PAP do not want any of its own singaporean fellows potentially voice out in future, and to show its citizens and foreigners as precedent that such thing is considered as crime and have consequences. It is becoming more significant that Singapore government is moving towards bureaucratic. Look at MM Lee's speech about single party SG government, how they crush oppositions, and many restrictions about people's freedom of speech. It is worrisom that singapore will head towards dictatorship in political field. It is very shameful act of singapore government. They may say, immigrations permits may be revoked for various reasons, but it is unofficially obvious that above case is related. Those involved in demonstration is not the threat to singapore, and no criminal acts done from view of human rights, but singapore government responded in such a punishment. There is entitlement called permit for public demonstration, but has there ever been approved before???

It is because PAP do not want any of its own singaporean fellows potentially voice out in future, and to show its citizens and foreigners as precedent that such thing is considered as crime and have consequences. It is becoming more significant that Singapore government is moving towards bureaucratic. Look at MM Lee’s speech about single party SG government, how they crush oppositions, and many restrictions about people’s freedom of speech.

It is worrisom that singapore will head towards dictatorship in political field.

]]> By: shaddy_cabinet http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17635 shaddy_cabinet Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:08:24 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17635 8) Singapore Kopitiam on August 16th, 2008 10.28 pm -------- what happened to sammyboy? did you went the way of HWZ? 8) Singapore Kopitiam on August 16th, 2008 10.28 pm

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what happened to sammyboy?
did you went the way of HWZ?

]]> By: old http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17619 old Sat, 16 Aug 2008 20:19:34 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17619 Good points Loyola. Just like we offer treatment to Mugabe eh? - http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/781-mugabe-sneaks-off-to-singapore Good points Loyola.

Just like we offer treatment to Mugabe eh? – http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/781-mugabe-sneaks-off-to-singapore

]]> By: Loyola http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17614 Loyola Sat, 16 Aug 2008 18:15:44 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17614 Ramseth, Should Singapore allow individuals who have committed crimes, enter our country just because they are foreigners? It doesn't matter if they claim to be the legitimate rulers of their own nation. Don't we hang foreigners who step on our soil have been deemed to have trafficked in drugs? Why the double standard of letting warlords and junta officials who have been complicit in acts of overuse of force resulting in brutalities and death, into the country? Ramseth,

Should Singapore allow individuals who have committed crimes, enter our country just because they are foreigners? It doesn’t matter if they claim to be the legitimate rulers of their own nation.

Don’t we hang foreigners who step on our soil have been deemed to have trafficked in drugs?

Why the double standard of letting warlords and junta officials who have been complicit in acts of overuse of force resulting in brutalities and death, into the country?

]]> By: Ramseth http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17613 Ramseth Sat, 16 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17613 "We must also wonder why our Government allows Burmese generals to seek treatment in Singapore hospitals" Should Singapore deny medical treatments to anyone for political reasons? “We must also wonder why our Government allows Burmese generals to seek treatment in Singapore hospitals”

Should Singapore deny medical treatments to anyone for political reasons?

]]> By: Sylvester Lim http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17579 Sylvester Lim Sat, 16 Aug 2008 04:20:00 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17579 What a bunch of hypocrites our leaders turn out to be! This is to be expected from our narrow minded leaders coupled with inferiority complex (the world hates us mentality). They cannot handle fair competition and can only operate when the odds are stacked against the competition. They should pass the reins to someone who can take the heat. Poor things.. What a bunch of hypocrites our leaders turn out to be! This is to be expected from our narrow minded leaders coupled with inferiority complex (the world hates us mentality). They cannot handle fair competition and can only operate when the odds are stacked against the competition. They should pass the reins to someone who can take the heat. Poor things..

]]> By: The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 33 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17576 The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Weekly Roundup: Week 33 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 03:38:13 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17576 [...] Free Burma - Readings From A Political Duo-ble: (Singapore’s) National Day and its unfulfilled obligations - Jacob’s Weblog: Burmese activists face visa problems in Singapore - TOC: Payback time? [...] [...] Free Burma – Readings From A Political Duo-ble: (Singapore’s) National Day and its unfulfilled obligations – Jacob’s Weblog: Burmese activists face visa problems in Singapore – TOC: Payback time? [...]

]]> By: old http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17547 old Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:14:46 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17547 Hi xtrakm, please refer to these paragraph (url of article at bottom) - All six were involved in an illegal protest last year against Myanmar's ruling military junta. Though not charged, they were let off with a warning. Protests are rare in Singapore and gatherings of four or more people require police permission. Singapore's home ministry said in a statement that the right of a foreigner to work and stay in Singapore "is not a matter of entitlement by political demand". "Foreigners who work or live here are expected to at least respect the law and local sensitivities in Singapore," said a spokeswoman from the Ministry of Home Affairs. According to the Singapore immigration website, the process to renew a re-entry permit into Singapore for a permanent resident only takes 30 minutes. http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/815-myanmar-activists-face-visa-problems-in-singapore Hi xtrakm, please refer to these paragraph (url of article at bottom) –

All six were involved in an illegal protest last year against Myanmar’s ruling military junta. Though not charged, they were let off with a warning. Protests are rare in Singapore and gatherings of four or more people require police permission.

Singapore’s home ministry said in a statement that the right of a foreigner to work and stay in Singapore “is not a matter of entitlement by political demand”.

“Foreigners who work or live here are expected to at least respect the law and local sensitivities in Singapore,” said a spokeswoman from the Ministry of Home Affairs.

According to the Singapore immigration website, the process to renew a re-entry permit into Singapore for a permanent resident only takes 30 minutes.

http://yoursdp.org/index.php/news/singapore/815-myanmar-activists-face-visa-problems-in-singapore

]]> By: sarek_home http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17543 sarek_home Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:28:02 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17543 It reminds me of Ryan Goh's PR status revoked. Don't think PAP expect or care about criticisms. It reminds me of Ryan Goh’s PR status revoked.

Don’t think PAP expect or care about criticisms.

]]> By: xtrakm http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17527 xtrakm Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:32:23 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17527 I would refrain from jumping into hasty conclusion. We should let the relevant authorities (ICA?) clarify the reasons why. I do not think the authorities are so stupid to act as such and invite criticisms from everyone. I would refrain from jumping into hasty conclusion. We should let the relevant authorities (ICA?) clarify the reasons why.

I do not think the authorities are so stupid to act as such and invite criticisms from everyone.

]]> By: Enough http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17496 Enough Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:30:12 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17496 It's a national shame, this sucking up to the Burmese generals (ony the buggers use Myanmar, the people use Burma). I'd rather have the Burmese than the China-born Falungung members who distribute flyers at the Merlion Park, MRT stations and who gather illegally inlarge groups at MacRitchie and other places. Falungung founder Li Hongzhi writes he can personally heal disease and that his followers can stop speeding cars using the powers of his teachings. BTW, the Falungung newspaper The Epoch Times has a MITA licence. It’s a national shame, this sucking up to the Burmese generals (ony the buggers use Myanmar, the people use Burma). I’d rather have the Burmese than the China-born Falungung members who distribute flyers at the Merlion Park, MRT stations and who gather illegally inlarge groups at MacRitchie and other places. Falungung founder Li Hongzhi writes he can personally heal disease and that his followers can stop speeding cars using the powers of his teachings. BTW, the Falungung newspaper The Epoch Times has a MITA licence.

]]> By: The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Daily SG: 15 Aug 2008 http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/payback-time/comment-page-1/#comment-17495 The Singapore Daily » Blog Archive » Daily SG: 15 Aug 2008 Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:29:47 +0000 http://theonlinecitizen.com/?p=1010#comment-17495 [...] Burma Rising - TOC: Payback time? [...] [...] Burma Rising – TOC: Payback time? [...]

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