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	<title>Comments on: Singaporeans want by-election in Jurong GRC</title>
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		<title>By: Siew Kum Hong: Why I decided to join TOC &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-175097</link>
		<dc:creator>Siew Kum Hong: Why I decided to join TOC &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 05:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from a poll that I helped TOC to conduct in 2008, I&#8217;ve never had any formal affiliation with TOC. But I know some of the TOC folks and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: tokselehon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-42798</link>
		<dc:creator>tokselehon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether a by-election or no by-election in jurong grc, lky pap still owe us an election and that election has to be paid dearly at GE 2011.That everyone can not forget.

Come 2011 GE, the Great people of jurong grc need to drown lky pap for that matter.

The Great people of jurong grc have the power to unseed the incumbent lky pap team in exchange for the &#039;short changed&#039; they have lived on. Just look around you and also the several set polls that Great people of jurong grc answered -- majority truely need the Opposition, a full time sets of Opposition MPs to serve daily in that wards of electoral divisions of jurong grc, not just part time MPs set by lky pap team, always missing-in-action in the Wards, gone AWOL many several day in day out.

Enough is enough for the part time MPs, for we are now looking at credible full time MPs to be seen and heard all day long thru the whole parliamentary term.

The Great people of jurong grc have the &#039;golden political bullet&#039; to unseed the part time lky pap MPs.




YES WE CAN, TO UNSEED THE PART TIME MPs,
tokselehon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether a by-election or no by-election in jurong grc, lky pap still owe us an election and that election has to be paid dearly at GE 2011.That everyone can not forget.</p>
<p>Come 2011 GE, the Great people of jurong grc need to drown lky pap for that matter.</p>
<p>The Great people of jurong grc have the power to unseed the incumbent lky pap team in exchange for the &#8216;short changed&#8217; they have lived on. Just look around you and also the several set polls that Great people of jurong grc answered &#8212; majority truely need the Opposition, a full time sets of Opposition MPs to serve daily in that wards of electoral divisions of jurong grc, not just part time MPs set by lky pap team, always missing-in-action in the Wards, gone AWOL many several day in day out.</p>
<p>Enough is enough for the part time MPs, for we are now looking at credible full time MPs to be seen and heard all day long thru the whole parliamentary term.</p>
<p>The Great people of jurong grc have the &#8216;golden political bullet&#8217; to unseed the part time lky pap MPs.</p>
<p>YES WE CAN, TO UNSEED THE PART TIME MPs,<br />
tokselehon.</p>
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		<title>By: 2008: The year of the blogger-activist : The Online Citizen - a community of singaporeans</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-42685</link>
		<dc:creator>2008: The year of the blogger-activist : The Online Citizen - a community of singaporeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] August, TOC conducted a street survey in Jurong GRC, following the death of one of the People’s Action Party MP, Dr Ong Chit Chung.  The results [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SINGAPOREAN 52</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20392</link>
		<dc:creator>SINGAPOREAN 52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@101                  Daniel.....Hmmmm... 
Daniel don b notti.... I 1 you to say sorry to UNCLE LAZARUS..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@101                  Daniel&#8230;..Hmmmm&#8230;<br />
Daniel don b notti&#8230;. I 1 you to say sorry to UNCLE LAZARUS..</p>
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		<title>By: SINGAPOREAN 52</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20390</link>
		<dc:creator>SINGAPOREAN 52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@75,,,,
you must be as old as me.....(giam chai char loti)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@75,,,,<br />
you must be as old as me&#8230;..(giam chai char loti)</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20265</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>did the PAY and PAP scared of losing jurong GRC..??

 if not ,,why don BATTLE with WP or other party??

is it,they did not give money to the jurong GRC citizen??
 
hai...i so disappoint not the pap goVERNMENT,,is the stupid singaporeans..when can they awake...

VOTES in election could depend on future government!!

at least need 30% is the opposition member in the parliment...

about 20 something people in the parliment is not &quot;pay and pay&quot;member....

SINGAPOREANS PLEASE AWAKE...SAVE YRSELF!!!! HAI.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>did the PAY and PAP scared of losing jurong GRC..??</p>
<p> if not ,,why don BATTLE with WP or other party??</p>
<p>is it,they did not give money to the jurong GRC citizen??</p>
<p>hai&#8230;i so disappoint not the pap goVERNMENT,,is the stupid singaporeans..when can they awake&#8230;</p>
<p>VOTES in election could depend on future government!!</p>
<p>at least need 30% is the opposition member in the parliment&#8230;</p>
<p>about 20 something people in the parliment is not &#8220;pay and pay&#8221;member&#8230;.</p>
<p>SINGAPOREANS PLEASE AWAKE&#8230;SAVE YRSELF!!!! HAI&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: My View</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20246</link>
		<dc:creator>My View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many have correctly pointed out despite the desparate attempt to justify their action, its just FEAR. The old man is crying wolf all the time and people are getting more agitated by their lack of accountability and transparency. Their arrogance and lack of moral authority has made them completly detached from reality the people are facing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many have correctly pointed out despite the desparate attempt to justify their action, its just FEAR. The old man is crying wolf all the time and people are getting more agitated by their lack of accountability and transparency. Their arrogance and lack of moral authority has made them completly detached from reality the people are facing.</p>
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		<title>By: My View</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20244</link>
		<dc:creator>My View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a tsunami that will expose all that has been buried deep for so long. We need the people to take back the power and hold the people we give the right to govern, responsible for they action or inaction. When only a select few hold on to the nation&#039;s purse and refuse to be held accountable and be transparent  than something is not right. Do the people know what&#039;s happening, we do not even know how much they are making or how much wealth they have accumulated personally. We have had a few relevation which were quickly wiped out the surface. Instead we have a bill that protects them from any investigation by private firms. Everything is shrouded in a cloud of secrecy in the guise of national security. That will change when we have a credible opposition. Everything has to come out in the open when they have no majority to pass any bill without proper accountability. Like the declassification of the British records, which exposed many truth that were buried deep, we need a major awakening to hold the government accountable. For that we need a opposition and people are starting to realise that. And that why FEAR has set in. The old man keeps crying wolf and the son is afraid to face the truth and the demands of the people. 

No man should be given a free hand when it comes to the concerns of the people, not even the monarchy. The time to stand up to scrutiny  is nearing and with that FEAR has set in. Men to are a afraid will soon start doing deparate things and eventually stupid things. We are seeing that now. That&#039;s just my view, on power in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a tsunami that will expose all that has been buried deep for so long. We need the people to take back the power and hold the people we give the right to govern, responsible for they action or inaction. When only a select few hold on to the nation&#8217;s purse and refuse to be held accountable and be transparent  than something is not right. Do the people know what&#8217;s happening, we do not even know how much they are making or how much wealth they have accumulated personally. We have had a few relevation which were quickly wiped out the surface. Instead we have a bill that protects them from any investigation by private firms. Everything is shrouded in a cloud of secrecy in the guise of national security. That will change when we have a credible opposition. Everything has to come out in the open when they have no majority to pass any bill without proper accountability. Like the declassification of the British records, which exposed many truth that were buried deep, we need a major awakening to hold the government accountable. For that we need a opposition and people are starting to realise that. And that why FEAR has set in. The old man keeps crying wolf and the son is afraid to face the truth and the demands of the people. </p>
<p>No man should be given a free hand when it comes to the concerns of the people, not even the monarchy. The time to stand up to scrutiny  is nearing and with that FEAR has set in. Men to are a afraid will soon start doing deparate things and eventually stupid things. We are seeing that now. That&#8217;s just my view, on power in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-3/#comment-20235</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;lazarus, you ‘r the cutest&quot;
All clowns are cute, aren&#039;t they ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;lazarus, you ‘r the cutest&#8221;<br />
All clowns are cute, aren&#8217;t they ?</p>
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		<title>By: DK &#187; By election in Jurong GRC</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-20225</link>
		<dc:creator>DK &#187; By election in Jurong GRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 07:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] knew that whatever we said is useless. The survey done by The Online Citizen already showed that a majority of the residents in Jurong GRC wants an election. The four remaining [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] knew that whatever we said is useless. The survey done by The Online Citizen already showed that a majority of the residents in Jurong GRC wants an election. The four remaining [...]</p>
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		<title>By: HardGainer</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-20150</link>
		<dc:creator>HardGainer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PM gave a very poor explanation of his decision - Defensive and protective of his own party&#039;s agenda and ambitions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PM gave a very poor explanation of his decision &#8211; Defensive and protective of his own party&#8217;s agenda and ambitions.</p>
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		<title>By: SINGAPOREAN 52</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19773</link>
		<dc:creator>SINGAPOREAN 52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lazarus, you &#039;r the cutest, no wonder ,the ppls. dote you most... TAKE CARE&lt;&lt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lazarus, you &#8216;r the cutest, no wonder ,the ppls. dote you most&#8230; TAKE CARE&lt;&lt;</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19608</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 04:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PAP knows that the chances of losing in the by-election is very high with so much vented frustrations on the ground. Therefore, NO by-election for sure. 

What&#039;s more revealing and an absolute fallacy is that the reality on the ground is totally not reflected in parliament by the PAP MPs. This is a good reflection of the level of credibilty and integrity that the PAP MPs have. 

To Singaporeans, PAP MPs simply did not justify taxpayers&#039; contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PAP knows that the chances of losing in the by-election is very high with so much vented frustrations on the ground. Therefore, NO by-election for sure. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s more revealing and an absolute fallacy is that the reality on the ground is totally not reflected in parliament by the PAP MPs. This is a good reflection of the level of credibilty and integrity that the PAP MPs have. </p>
<p>To Singaporeans, PAP MPs simply did not justify taxpayers&#8217; contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: get real</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19542</link>
		<dc:creator>get real</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say,  if a minority  member of a GRC dies, resigns or terminated,  then it would mean that there is no minority representation at all which then  would mean that  the purpose of the GRC of having a mandatory minority representation, in the first place,  would have been breached.

Therefore, in this circumstance , the GRC should either be disbanded  totally to  single seats constituencies  AND/OR   the constituency of  the deceased minority  race MP should have a MANDATORY by-election to fill  the vacant seat by a minority. It would then be up for the residents/citizens rights  to choose a person who shall represent them in parliament. 

To say that it will be a waste of resources to have a by-election is an unacceptable excuse. Let&#039;s be uniquely Singapore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say,  if a minority  member of a GRC dies, resigns or terminated,  then it would mean that there is no minority representation at all which then  would mean that  the purpose of the GRC of having a mandatory minority representation, in the first place,  would have been breached.</p>
<p>Therefore, in this circumstance , the GRC should either be disbanded  totally to  single seats constituencies  AND/OR   the constituency of  the deceased minority  race MP should have a MANDATORY by-election to fill  the vacant seat by a minority. It would then be up for the residents/citizens rights  to choose a person who shall represent them in parliament. </p>
<p>To say that it will be a waste of resources to have a by-election is an unacceptable excuse. Let&#8217;s be uniquely Singapore.</p>
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		<title>By: Alvin Tan</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19533</link>
		<dc:creator>Alvin Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a dedicated MP for Bukit Batok.’

Engineering student Alvin Tan, 30, said: ‘Currently, Parliament is short of one seat. And without Dr Ong, the other four MPs have to share the workload.

‘It’s better to have somebody take over properly, and it would be even better if it’s someone who has been working closely with Dr Ong and knows the area better.’

Am i not clear enough? We seriously do need a by-election. Dr Ong has served us well through the years since 1988 and we want another MP who is able to maintain his deeds. Why should we not hold a by-election? Having a short-change of manpower can easily tire out our counterparts as they have their own community responsibility as well. Have a blessed weekend ahead. &lt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a dedicated MP for Bukit Batok.’</p>
<p>Engineering student Alvin Tan, 30, said: ‘Currently, Parliament is short of one seat. And without Dr Ong, the other four MPs have to share the workload.</p>
<p>‘It’s better to have somebody take over properly, and it would be even better if it’s someone who has been working closely with Dr Ong and knows the area better.’</p>
<p>Am i not clear enough? We seriously do need a by-election. Dr Ong has served us well through the years since 1988 and we want another MP who is able to maintain his deeds. Why should we not hold a by-election? Having a short-change of manpower can easily tire out our counterparts as they have their own community responsibility as well. Have a blessed weekend ahead. &lt;&gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Weird Name</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19526</link>
		<dc:creator>Weird Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;Right On&quot;

Base on  your comments- there is a possibilty that 3 PAP ministers may be ko if  2 by elections are to be held.
Hence the expected outcome in Parliment and the LBW apology.
 The importance of moving on to the PAP is quite clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;Right On&#8221;</p>
<p>Base on  your comments- there is a possibilty that 3 PAP ministers may be ko if  2 by elections are to be held.<br />
Hence the expected outcome in Parliment and the LBW apology.<br />
 The importance of moving on to the PAP is quite clear.</p>
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		<title>By: see</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19525</link>
		<dc:creator>see</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have more guts to do a by-election. See if you have the support of yr people. Too much of walk over is it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have more guts to do a by-election. See if you have the support of yr people. Too much of walk over is it.</p>
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		<title>By: yewlooon</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19460</link>
		<dc:creator>yewlooon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 1 Septermber, we will be organising a protest in Speaker’s Corner. All you people who complained so much behind all those weird names better turn up to support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 1 Septermber, we will be organising a protest in Speaker’s Corner. All you people who complained so much behind all those weird names better turn up to support.</p>
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		<title>By: Real Democracy</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/08/singaporeans-want-by-election-in-jurong-grc/comment-page-2/#comment-19422</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Democracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When one feature is taken away from a component it &#039;s no longer has the same performance it has ( When Dr. Ong Chit Chung passed away). Government should held by election to update a new mandate to be fair to Jurong resident. LHL is expecting us to swallow this sort of half baked reasoning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When one feature is taken away from a component it &#8216;s no longer has the same performance it has ( When Dr. Ong Chit Chung passed away). Government should held by election to update a new mandate to be fair to Jurong resident. LHL is expecting us to swallow this sort of half baked reasoning?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jackson Tan

what are these drawbacks for proportional representation? Just saying there are is not enough!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jackson Tan</p>
<p>what are these drawbacks for proportional representation? Just saying there are is not enough!</p>
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