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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-22197</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Perhaps our ministers and bureaucrats should learn something from this. Without the dare to fail and learn, we will never discover new things.&quot;

Why should they take risk of losing millions if they have KPI that depend on results. Just achieve the result through proven standard ways to meet the KPI. Now you know why our system never reward innovation, they only reward what&#039;s work. And now you know why our gahmen want you to innovate and take the risk ? Because the let you take the risk and they claim the credit. Is that relevation new to us ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps our ministers and bureaucrats should learn something from this. Without the dare to fail and learn, we will never discover new things.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why should they take risk of losing millions if they have KPI that depend on results. Just achieve the result through proven standard ways to meet the KPI. Now you know why our system never reward innovation, they only reward what&#8217;s work. And now you know why our gahmen want you to innovate and take the risk ? Because the let you take the risk and they claim the credit. Is that relevation new to us ?</p>
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		<title>By: dodo</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-22181</link>
		<dc:creator>dodo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i worked for the government in my early days. i put up papers after papers testing the irrationalities of rules that affected real people. one day, my immediate boss told me that the man at the top was getting irritated by my increasing number of &quot;special&quot; cases that required his time/approval for deviation. after that, i was history. my colleagues stayed on by &quot;following the rules&quot; and they also got promoted/earned more - doing same things all these years. so the true story is &quot;bureacracy does pay off&quot;. you have to work smart, not hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i worked for the government in my early days. i put up papers after papers testing the irrationalities of rules that affected real people. one day, my immediate boss told me that the man at the top was getting irritated by my increasing number of &#8220;special&#8221; cases that required his time/approval for deviation. after that, i was history. my colleagues stayed on by &#8220;following the rules&#8221; and they also got promoted/earned more &#8211; doing same things all these years. so the true story is &#8220;bureacracy does pay off&#8221;. you have to work smart, not hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Vacuum State</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21775</link>
		<dc:creator>Vacuum State</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend who worked for the European Commission (a large bureucracy) was to start 10 leading edge technology projects. 

He did that and 3 of them failed. As he apologised to his boss, he was surprised to hear that it is ok to fail 3 out of 10, because if all 10 had passed, that would likely mean that he had only taken &#039;safe&#039; ideas and was not creative and revolutionary enough.

However, if 6 out 10 failed, that would have meant that he was too daring.

Perhaps our ministers and bureaucrats should learn something from this. Without the dare to fail and learn, we will never discover new things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend who worked for the European Commission (a large bureucracy) was to start 10 leading edge technology projects. </p>
<p>He did that and 3 of them failed. As he apologised to his boss, he was surprised to hear that it is ok to fail 3 out of 10, because if all 10 had passed, that would likely mean that he had only taken &#8216;safe&#8217; ideas and was not creative and revolutionary enough.</p>
<p>However, if 6 out 10 failed, that would have meant that he was too daring.</p>
<p>Perhaps our ministers and bureaucrats should learn something from this. Without the dare to fail and learn, we will never discover new things.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21752</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; a rap for “not thinking through enough”.
This I agree  and widely found in authoritarian management style. In fact, its real usage is to protect the incompetent boss and to make the boss look superior and smart and the rest feel stupid and dependent. How does this work ? It works by been ambiguous. I presume in this case the staff is smart and know what to do but unfortunately work under a insecured and incompetent boss. First, it creates the impression  that one must think thorough in order to suggest ideas in order not to look stupid, and on the other hand, it allows the boss to downplay you by telling you off that you lack common sense because you take too much time to decide over matter. The trick is that whether the matter requires much thorough thought is not up to you, it is up to the boss, and you have to second guess him. He will tell you the answer so to confuse you.  If your boss don&#039;t like you or want to show off who&#039;s the king, they just shoot you down through &quot;not thinking through enough&quot; or just lack common sense.  So head you lose, tail you also lose just because the boss lack security and doesn&#039;t want you to outsmart him. 

I can&#039;t say it is wrong as it is just human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; a rap for “not thinking through enough”.<br />
This I agree  and widely found in authoritarian management style. In fact, its real usage is to protect the incompetent boss and to make the boss look superior and smart and the rest feel stupid and dependent. How does this work ? It works by been ambiguous. I presume in this case the staff is smart and know what to do but unfortunately work under a insecured and incompetent boss. First, it creates the impression  that one must think thorough in order to suggest ideas in order not to look stupid, and on the other hand, it allows the boss to downplay you by telling you off that you lack common sense because you take too much time to decide over matter. The trick is that whether the matter requires much thorough thought is not up to you, it is up to the boss, and you have to second guess him. He will tell you the answer so to confuse you.  If your boss don&#8217;t like you or want to show off who&#8217;s the king, they just shoot you down through &#8220;not thinking through enough&#8221; or just lack common sense.  So head you lose, tail you also lose just because the boss lack security and doesn&#8217;t want you to outsmart him. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t say it is wrong as it is just human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former bureaucrat myself, I would say the biggest impediment to civil servants being innovative (or rather facilitating innovation) is the culture of fear in the Civil Service. Everyone is fearful of incurring the wrath of their bosses and Ministers. 

This wrath could come in several forms. It could be a rap for making a silly mistake, or more commonly, a rap for &quot;not thinking through enough&quot;. The latter is more common. 

&quot;Not thinking through&quot; could be a result of being too idealistic, not pragmatic enough. That is the biggest black mark a Div 1 officer could have to his/her name, for it signals a lack of &quot;helicopter vision&quot;.

In any case, for most people, there is greater reward for not screwing up than for doing something out of the box.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former bureaucrat myself, I would say the biggest impediment to civil servants being innovative (or rather facilitating innovation) is the culture of fear in the Civil Service. Everyone is fearful of incurring the wrath of their bosses and Ministers. </p>
<p>This wrath could come in several forms. It could be a rap for making a silly mistake, or more commonly, a rap for &#8220;not thinking through enough&#8221;. The latter is more common. </p>
<p>&#8220;Not thinking through&#8221; could be a result of being too idealistic, not pragmatic enough. That is the biggest black mark a Div 1 officer could have to his/her name, for it signals a lack of &#8220;helicopter vision&#8221;.</p>
<p>In any case, for most people, there is greater reward for not screwing up than for doing something out of the box.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 08:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It certainly seems like you might not be the person I am talking about after all. That person would not be as civil. My apologies then for the mistaken identity and thank you for your kind comments.

We should fight the system that stifles our creativity and opportunity and I do not dispute that at all. But when we choose to fight against the system, we must be prepared to suffer the consequences and continue with our struggle. My grouse is that when the going gets tough, more than a handful of such &#039;fighters&#039; tend to stop actually fighting and start whining and complaining instead.

Such criticism without offering solutions helps no one at all. One must either outwardly rebel against the system productively (not just for the sake of rebelling), fight from within the system objectively (not just be disgruntled), or actively seek to leave the system altogether (ie. migrate). Certainly, it might not be easy for the majority of Singaporeans to embark on any of these options, but then, success does not come easily to most anyway.

One of these options must be chosen and the difficult journey must be endured until success comes - or till death. That should eb the mentality. Otherwise, they should just live with the default chocie of being in this imperfect system - without complaining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It certainly seems like you might not be the person I am talking about after all. That person would not be as civil. My apologies then for the mistaken identity and thank you for your kind comments.</p>
<p>We should fight the system that stifles our creativity and opportunity and I do not dispute that at all. But when we choose to fight against the system, we must be prepared to suffer the consequences and continue with our struggle. My grouse is that when the going gets tough, more than a handful of such &#8216;fighters&#8217; tend to stop actually fighting and start whining and complaining instead.</p>
<p>Such criticism without offering solutions helps no one at all. One must either outwardly rebel against the system productively (not just for the sake of rebelling), fight from within the system objectively (not just be disgruntled), or actively seek to leave the system altogether (ie. migrate). Certainly, it might not be easy for the majority of Singaporeans to embark on any of these options, but then, success does not come easily to most anyway.</p>
<p>One of these options must be chosen and the difficult journey must be endured until success comes &#8211; or till death. That should eb the mentality. Otherwise, they should just live with the default chocie of being in this imperfect system &#8211; without complaining.</p>
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		<title>By: To dear Ganga</title>
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		<dc:creator>To dear Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 07:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;5) Ganga on September 17th, 2008 2.23 pm
The bigger crime is taking the easy way out and deflecting blame unto the system - and doing nothing else about it.&quot;

And why should the &quot;fighting&#039; be skewed in favour of leaving the system alone and a negative connotative label being assigned to people trying to change the system for the better.

&quot;Once we give up, we have no one to blame but ourselves and should just shut up, suck it up and live with it.&quot;

Easier said if it is not your LIMITED resorces (could be your own personal money &amp; long time involved) that are at stake. Certain groups live by taxing people by enforcing rules &amp; regulations here &amp; there which may already be outdated while certain groups have to risk huge sum of money &amp; effort to test out their ideas.

Now tell me Ganga, who is doing the real value creation work and who is living by the creation work of others. You need both to moderate one another however you need to change moderating agent if it is not doing its job well.

Internet is really confusing - I never posted in your blog so far. You do have a lot of fans, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;5) Ganga on September 17th, 2008 2.23 pm<br />
The bigger crime is taking the easy way out and deflecting blame unto the system &#8211; and doing nothing else about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>And why should the &#8220;fighting&#8217; be skewed in favour of leaving the system alone and a negative connotative label being assigned to people trying to change the system for the better.</p>
<p>&#8220;Once we give up, we have no one to blame but ourselves and should just shut up, suck it up and live with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Easier said if it is not your LIMITED resorces (could be your own personal money &amp; long time involved) that are at stake. Certain groups live by taxing people by enforcing rules &amp; regulations here &amp; there which may already be outdated while certain groups have to risk huge sum of money &amp; effort to test out their ideas.</p>
<p>Now tell me Ganga, who is doing the real value creation work and who is living by the creation work of others. You need both to moderate one another however you need to change moderating agent if it is not doing its job well.</p>
<p>Internet is really confusing &#8211; I never posted in your blog so far. You do have a lot of fans, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21698</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As we do not have a culture of creativity, foreign talents fill in the gap. We pay (because we can afford to) the world’s best brains as our consultants to design our IRs and monumental buildings and teach us best practices. Yes, the job gets done but we continue to lament that we lack local talents.&quot;

Now I know why everything here is about money because there is no FT holding minister&#039;s post ! We should have FT in high position to come out creative solution instead of money solution. To our gahmen, money solve all our problems, of course, we know  it better as it only applies to Singapore because the gahmen who hold absolute power and naiton&#039;s wealth are so disconnected with reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As we do not have a culture of creativity, foreign talents fill in the gap. We pay (because we can afford to) the world’s best brains as our consultants to design our IRs and monumental buildings and teach us best practices. Yes, the job gets done but we continue to lament that we lack local talents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I know why everything here is about money because there is no FT holding minister&#8217;s post ! We should have FT in high position to come out creative solution instead of money solution. To our gahmen, money solve all our problems, of course, we know  it better as it only applies to Singapore because the gahmen who hold absolute power and naiton&#8217;s wealth are so disconnected with reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21697</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a great piece of article. Provocative and straight to the point. The points are exactly how our gahmen works. It is very unbelieveable that the gahmen can try to inspire others to be innovative and creative  where they themselves exhibit none of the aptitude and action.

Instead of solving problem creatively, they solve it using money over and over again. Not giving money but taking money from citizen in every  opportunity they can.

I see that you are a innovator in Toilet, and hope some day you invent a toilet bowl that flush the ministers and the money-minded regime down the TOILET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a great piece of article. Provocative and straight to the point. The points are exactly how our gahmen works. It is very unbelieveable that the gahmen can try to inspire others to be innovative and creative  where they themselves exhibit none of the aptitude and action.</p>
<p>Instead of solving problem creatively, they solve it using money over and over again. Not giving money but taking money from citizen in every  opportunity they can.</p>
<p>I see that you are a innovator in Toilet, and hope some day you invent a toilet bowl that flush the ministers and the money-minded regime down the TOILET.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21696</link>
		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like my &#039;fan&#039; (from another post on my blog) has struck again, hahaha.

The purpose of my accolade to Mr Sim bore out of my long-held skepticism of the &#039;toilet man&#039;. I had dismissed his actions as mere gimmicks and this article has served to correct the erroneous perception I had of the man.

I agree fully that &#039;stories coming from winners&#039; are certainly more heard out, and also with the notion that there must be fighters to complement the &#039;quiet infiltrators&#039; (excellent analogy by the way).

However, if the fighters do not persevere and instead stop along the way to start whining and complaining, then they are no longer serving the larger purpose. Also, a person who &#039;fights within the system&#039; needs specific skills, tactics and patience to achieve such a feat and therefore such efforts/accomplishments should not be callously dismissed.

Either fight directly or indirectly but don&#039;t stand around watching the world go by and then blame everything under the sun - this is what I have learnt personally. I used to blame the system and then do nothing myself until recently.

How we &#039;fight&#039; is immaterial, but the fact of the matter is we should never give up fighting - even if we know failure is unavoidable. Once we give up, we have no one to blame but ourselves and should just shut up, suck it up and live with it. The bigger crime is taking the easy way out and deflecting blame unto the system - and doing nothing else about it.

And to set the record straight, my unreserved appreciation of anyone or anything is extremely rare and is only forthcoming where I feel it is extremely due. As anyone who knows me will easily attest to - I do not cheaply throw compliments around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like my &#8216;fan&#8217; (from another post on my blog) has struck again, hahaha.</p>
<p>The purpose of my accolade to Mr Sim bore out of my long-held skepticism of the &#8216;toilet man&#8217;. I had dismissed his actions as mere gimmicks and this article has served to correct the erroneous perception I had of the man.</p>
<p>I agree fully that &#8216;stories coming from winners&#8217; are certainly more heard out, and also with the notion that there must be fighters to complement the &#8216;quiet infiltrators&#8217; (excellent analogy by the way).</p>
<p>However, if the fighters do not persevere and instead stop along the way to start whining and complaining, then they are no longer serving the larger purpose. Also, a person who &#8216;fights within the system&#8217; needs specific skills, tactics and patience to achieve such a feat and therefore such efforts/accomplishments should not be callously dismissed.</p>
<p>Either fight directly or indirectly but don&#8217;t stand around watching the world go by and then blame everything under the sun &#8211; this is what I have learnt personally. I used to blame the system and then do nothing myself until recently.</p>
<p>How we &#8216;fight&#8217; is immaterial, but the fact of the matter is we should never give up fighting &#8211; even if we know failure is unavoidable. Once we give up, we have no one to blame but ourselves and should just shut up, suck it up and live with it. The bigger crime is taking the easy way out and deflecting blame unto the system &#8211; and doing nothing else about it.</p>
<p>And to set the record straight, my unreserved appreciation of anyone or anything is extremely rare and is only forthcoming where I feel it is extremely due. As anyone who knows me will easily attest to &#8211; I do not cheaply throw compliments around.</p>
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		<title>By: To dear Ganga</title>
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		<dc:creator>To dear Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 05:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;3) Ganga on September 17th, 2008 12.25 pm 
 you are fighting within the system and working towards solutions rather than fight against the system and lose your motivation.&quot;

Not a lot of people are like Mr. Sim. Sometimes, you need to fight the system for the system to change so that even more people like Mr. Sim can shine.

If you put nails across a 100 meter track, not a lot of people can safely make it. If you clear the track, almost all can make it. If the nails are the problem, try to take away the nails. Why have the nails there and still make it sound it is alright for the nails to be there and then pat people who are able to take the arduous &amp; tedious route to reach the finish line. 

What say you ? The flawed system is the problem or the people trying to change a flawed system is the problem. Somehow, Mr. Sim has stated his views albeit in a nice diplomatic manner.

&quot;As we do not have a culture of creativity, foreign talents fill in the gap.&quot;

But then, foreign talents may not have been be hindered by the same type of Bureau-crazy that we have.

&quot;Will this article create repercussions for me? No. It’ll only make things better.&quot;

Mr. Sim has made it, we have the good fortune to hear his story. 

Other people who may have even better ideas could have been frustrated and may have to live with the fact they will never see their ideas bear fruition in their life. And they have similar stories to tell also. In life, the same story but told by a winner will somehow invite more accolades by people like Ganga.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;3) Ganga on September 17th, 2008 12.25 pm<br />
 you are fighting within the system and working towards solutions rather than fight against the system and lose your motivation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not a lot of people are like Mr. Sim. Sometimes, you need to fight the system for the system to change so that even more people like Mr. Sim can shine.</p>
<p>If you put nails across a 100 meter track, not a lot of people can safely make it. If you clear the track, almost all can make it. If the nails are the problem, try to take away the nails. Why have the nails there and still make it sound it is alright for the nails to be there and then pat people who are able to take the arduous &amp; tedious route to reach the finish line. </p>
<p>What say you ? The flawed system is the problem or the people trying to change a flawed system is the problem. Somehow, Mr. Sim has stated his views albeit in a nice diplomatic manner.</p>
<p>&#8220;As we do not have a culture of creativity, foreign talents fill in the gap.&#8221;</p>
<p>But then, foreign talents may not have been be hindered by the same type of Bureau-crazy that we have.</p>
<p>&#8220;Will this article create repercussions for me? No. It’ll only make things better.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mr. Sim has made it, we have the good fortune to hear his story. </p>
<p>Other people who may have even better ideas could have been frustrated and may have to live with the fact they will never see their ideas bear fruition in their life. And they have similar stories to tell also. In life, the same story but told by a winner will somehow invite more accolades by people like Ganga.</p>
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		<title>By: Ganga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ganga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, for a &#039;toilet guy&#039; the man&#039;s incredibly profound. I have only heard about him and the fact that he was actively involved in the sanitation industry. But I brushed it off as a gimmick of sorts. With this one article, I have a newfound respect for the man.

Mr Jack Sim, sir, you are fighting within the system and working towards solutions rather than fight against the system and lose your motivation. You are truly an inspiration and I thank you for that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, for a &#8216;toilet guy&#8217; the man&#8217;s incredibly profound. I have only heard about him and the fact that he was actively involved in the sanitation industry. But I brushed it off as a gimmick of sorts. With this one article, I have a newfound respect for the man.</p>
<p>Mr Jack Sim, sir, you are fighting within the system and working towards solutions rather than fight against the system and lose your motivation. You are truly an inspiration and I thank you for that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: percevale</title>
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		<dc:creator>percevale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 04:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s an idea for schools, set their KPI against Percentage % improvement over current results.

That is to say, your school only moves up in rankings if you have helped a student in a tangible way (i.e. improvement in grades, increased activity in community service, early discovery of a documented talent, etc)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an idea for schools, set their KPI against Percentage % improvement over current results.</p>
<p>That is to say, your school only moves up in rankings if you have helped a student in a tangible way (i.e. improvement in grades, increased activity in community service, early discovery of a documented talent, etc)</p>
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		<title>By: rock^star</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/bureau-crazy/comment-page-1/#comment-21679</link>
		<dc:creator>rock^star</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 03:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said! We are efficient but at the expense of creativity and compassion, among many other factors.

Why do our Chinese lose out to the Malaysian and Indonesian Chinese in terms of entrepreneurial ability. What about the Hongkies and China Chinese? Taiwanese too?

Singapore under PAP, has evolved into an efficient but dumb nation of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said! We are efficient but at the expense of creativity and compassion, among many other factors.</p>
<p>Why do our Chinese lose out to the Malaysian and Indonesian Chinese in terms of entrepreneurial ability. What about the Hongkies and China Chinese? Taiwanese too?</p>
<p>Singapore under PAP, has evolved into an efficient but dumb nation of people.</p>
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