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		<title>By: Yeo Ah Suei</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/democracy-and-elections-the-impact-of-online-politics-in-singapore/comment-page-1/#comment-182736</link>
		<dc:creator>Yeo Ah Suei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2011 07:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,Where do I find the website for online voting?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,Where do I find the website for online voting?</p>
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		<title>By: spirited-centred</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/democracy-and-elections-the-impact-of-online-politics-in-singapore/comment-page-1/#comment-136608</link>
		<dc:creator>spirited-centred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The internet is the only tools and the most efficient and cost-effective one for the opposition parties to leverage during election campaigning. They can use facebook and youtube to show videos of voters from different segments of our society supporting the opposition parties and stands to propagate positive and confident messages about opposition candidates on the minds of all voters. This definitely will be a popular way to give good branding to the opposition candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The internet is the only tools and the most efficient and cost-effective one for the opposition parties to leverage during election campaigning. They can use facebook and youtube to show videos of voters from different segments of our society supporting the opposition parties and stands to propagate positive and confident messages about opposition candidates on the minds of all voters. This definitely will be a popular way to give good branding to the opposition candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>vincent tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;em&gt;If we look specifically at the elections years&lt;/em&gt; 1997, 2001, and 2006, voter &lt;strong&gt;participation&lt;/strong&gt; was
                                                                40.7%, 33.2% and 56.6% &lt;em&gt;only respectively&lt;/em&gt;. &quot;
The idea &#039;Ban Walkovers&#039; is to involve all eligible voters to choose and ,endorse the candidates presented to us.
The final decision rest squarely on all responsible Singaporean voters (&lt;strong&gt;100% PARTICIPATION&lt;/strong&gt;)
All Sg should cast their precious VOTE regardless of whether PAP is challenged or not in the general election. The lone contestant must score more than 50% to win, if not a By-Election is called.
please don&#039;t let the SilenceHalf of SG squeeze in agony because they don&#039;t have the chance to voice-out come election time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<em>If we look specifically at the elections years</em> 1997, 2001, and 2006, voter <strong>participation</strong> was<br />
                                                                40.7%, 33.2% and 56.6% <em>only respectively</em>. &#8221;<br />
The idea &#8216;Ban Walkovers&#8217; is to involve all eligible voters to choose and ,endorse the candidates presented to us.<br />
The final decision rest squarely on all responsible Singaporean voters (<strong>100% PARTICIPATION</strong>)<br />
All Sg should cast their precious VOTE regardless of whether PAP is challenged or not in the general election. The lone contestant must score more than 50% to win, if not a By-Election is called.<br />
please don&#8217;t let the SilenceHalf of SG squeeze in agony because they don&#8217;t have the chance to voice-out come election time.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>vincent tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr.    tiredsingaporean 
Mar 22, 2010 16:59  &lt;em&gt;wrote
&lt;/em&gt;&quot;........... like those in the philippines where lately the entire families and their supporters of an upcoming candidates were being massacre outright even way before they can reach the polling station by its very own military. &quot;
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Thank you for your comments.
Before SG deteriorate to this scary position, we true-blue Singaporeans should try to prevent it.
All Sg should cast their precious VOTE regardless of whether PAP is challenged or not in the general election.
If majority voted for the PAP in the GE. I&#039;ll go along with the majority. That&#039;s DEMOCRACY.
I have faith in our fellow country-man to make a wise choice.
Get every voters involved is my suggestion.

&lt;em&gt;Note:- my suggestion was published in ST forum 23/3/10&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr.    tiredsingaporean<br />
Mar 22, 2010 16:59  <em>wrote<br />
</em>&#8220;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. like those in the philippines where lately the entire families and their supporters of an upcoming candidates were being massacre outright even way before they can reach the polling station by its very own military. &#8221;<br />
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Thank you for your comments.<br />
Before SG deteriorate to this scary position, we true-blue Singaporeans should try to prevent it.<br />
All Sg should cast their precious VOTE regardless of whether PAP is challenged or not in the general election.<br />
If majority voted for the PAP in the GE. I&#8217;ll go along with the majority. That&#8217;s DEMOCRACY.<br />
I have faith in our fellow country-man to make a wise choice.<br />
Get every voters involved is my suggestion.</p>
<p><em>Note:- my suggestion was published in ST forum 23/3/10</em></p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to: vincent tan
the only different here in singapore is that singaporeans are the kuai kuai type and the old man knows that whatever he intend to do to us, he knows too well we can&#039;t do much to oppose him, thats why things are already getting out of hands lately with all kinds of dirty things going on and yet those involved pretend nothing happened. Just imagine what will happen if the politics here are like those in the philippines where lately the entire families and their supporters of an upcoming candidates were being massacre outright even way before they can reach the polling station by its very own military. Maybe, we have not reach that stage yet but when things are going haywire and desperate at ground level . . I cannot imagine what can take place.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to: vincent tan<br />
the only different here in singapore is that singaporeans are the kuai kuai type and the old man knows that whatever he intend to do to us, he knows too well we can&#8217;t do much to oppose him, thats why things are already getting out of hands lately with all kinds of dirty things going on and yet those involved pretend nothing happened. Just imagine what will happen if the politics here are like those in the philippines where lately the entire families and their supporters of an upcoming candidates were being massacre outright even way before they can reach the polling station by its very own military. Maybe, we have not reach that stage yet but when things are going haywire and desperate at ground level . . I cannot imagine what can take place.  </p>
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		<title>By: Neutral Voice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neutral Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey TOC, i like your articles a lot!
hope one of your writers could pen a piece on what singapore could be like after the retirement of MM. I am sure singaporeans would have so many comments to share.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey TOC, i like your articles a lot!<br />
hope one of your writers could pen a piece on what singapore could be like after the retirement of MM. I am sure singaporeans would have so many comments to share.</p>
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		<title>By: vincent tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>vincent tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MR. sotong wrote
Sep 15, 2008 16:11 
&quot;I am in my 50s and I have only voted once in a general election sometime in 1980s. After that, the constiuencies that I stayed have all been under GRC and walkovers.&quot;

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my suggestion --------------       &lt;strong&gt;No Walkovers&lt;/strong&gt;
 
Come election time, a significant minority won’t get to vote. This is due to the unique Singapore-invention electoral GRC system. The system has put up an enormous barrier on the opposition to match the PAP due to lack of resources and credible candidates.
Having gone through this GRC type of election for the past 20 odd years, many Singaporeans were sidelined in many walkovers wards.
Although we boast of high voters turn-out in every election, the underlying picture only tell half truth. It’s not surprising that a citizen did not get to vote in his lifetime in a democratic Singapore. This basic human right to choose his leaders was denied because of the inherent disadvantage of the GRC system.
I suggest there should be no more walkovers even there’s only one party taking part in a particular GRC ward by allowing every voters to cast their votes. The lone party must garner enough votes to secure their parliamentary seat. We set the winning barrier at 50% plus one vote. If this lone contestant failed to garner the required cut-off percentage, a second round of vote will be called. This by-election should be able to attract participation from the oppositions to contest. 
Then we can truly proclaim “Every vote counts” in Singapore. Elected leaders must earn their  right to lead through voters’ mandate. 
No more back door entry into our Parliament House</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MR. sotong wrote<br />
Sep 15, 2008 16:11<br />
&#8220;I am in my 50s and I have only voted once in a general election sometime in 1980s. After that, the constiuencies that I stayed have all been under GRC and walkovers.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
my suggestion &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;       <strong>No Walkovers</strong><br />
 <br />
Come election time, a significant minority won’t get to vote. This is due to the unique Singapore-invention electoral GRC system. The system has put up an enormous barrier on the opposition to match the PAP due to lack of resources and credible candidates.<br />
Having gone through this GRC type of election for the past 20 odd years, many Singaporeans were sidelined in many walkovers wards.<br />
Although we boast of high voters turn-out in every election, the underlying picture only tell half truth. It’s not surprising that a citizen did not get to vote in his lifetime in a democratic Singapore. This basic human right to choose his leaders was denied because of the inherent disadvantage of the GRC system.<br />
I suggest there should be no more walkovers even there’s only one party taking part in a particular GRC ward by allowing every voters to cast their votes. The lone party must garner enough votes to secure their parliamentary seat. We set the winning barrier at 50% plus one vote. If this lone contestant failed to garner the required cut-off percentage, a second round of vote will be called. This by-election should be able to attract participation from the oppositions to contest.<br />
Then we can truly proclaim “Every vote counts” in Singapore. Elected leaders must earn their  right to lead through voters’ mandate.<br />
No more back door entry into our Parliament House</p>
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		<title>By: e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; September 18, 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; September 18, 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Besides why should he post his thesis to establish a point for the benefit of anyone here or anywhere else? &quot;

Gomez doesn&#039;t have to but if he want us to understand which perspective he coming from, and help us see and understand from his point of view then it is his interest to educate us as much. Not that we are stupid but if we have to be objective. It is important to convince us as much as how his thesis stand. Same for government. 

&quot;If you want to do that take it up with Monash directly, every thesis is open to public review. You mean, you didn’t know that?&quot;
Well, if Gomez could help to obtain the  permission to view publicly or tell us the link to dowload the thesis, we will be glad.
Not all thesis can be obtained easily from university just by asking. Thesis can be requested to keep confidential and hence may not be subjected for public access. eg due to sensitive information of company, state, eg...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Besides why should he post his thesis to establish a point for the benefit of anyone here or anywhere else? &#8221;</p>
<p>Gomez doesn&#8217;t have to but if he want us to understand which perspective he coming from, and help us see and understand from his point of view then it is his interest to educate us as much. Not that we are stupid but if we have to be objective. It is important to convince us as much as how his thesis stand. Same for government. </p>
<p>&#8220;If you want to do that take it up with Monash directly, every thesis is open to public review. You mean, you didn’t know that?&#8221;<br />
Well, if Gomez could help to obtain the  permission to view publicly or tell us the link to dowload the thesis, we will be glad.<br />
Not all thesis can be obtained easily from university just by asking. Thesis can be requested to keep confidential and hence may not be subjected for public access. eg due to sensitive information of company, state, eg&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: singaporedaddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>singaporedaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I don’t know what to make of this thesis. At one level it comes across as very believable. On another level. Even I can pick some bones with how the author uses statistics indiscriminately to illustrate his point. Although, I don’t quite know how to put it across in paper.&quot;

Well I know exactly what to make of your silly statement. What you may have just demonstrated to all here is how little you actually know about what a PhD thesis actually is. It’s a supposition of fact i.e a hypothesis, not to a statement of fact dumb dumb, so how is it supposed to prove or disprove anything? What the hell are you talking about?

Besides why should he post his thesis to establish a point for the benefit of anyone here or anywhere else? Tell me do you splay out the pictures of your girlfriend in the net for all to see? That’s really a private matter between him and his assessors at Monash. 

The way I see it the man ran a fair and square race and to shoot him down just because you didn’t bother to read broadly on what a PhD should or should not be simply says you are not a sportsman or even understand that word beyond its dictionary meaning.

I don’t want any part in this. We fight fair and square. We don’t tie our opponents up and expect them to go ten rounds. We don’t post or views and sand bag others who try to respond to them. This we do not do! That is simply not us. 

As I said, from what I see the man ran a fair and square race and I don’t think anyone has any basis to question either his integrity or shed aspersions on the merit of his PhD thesis.

If you want to do that take it up with Monash directly, every thesis is open to public review. You mean, you didn’t know that?

Good evening

SD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I don’t know what to make of this thesis. At one level it comes across as very believable. On another level. Even I can pick some bones with how the author uses statistics indiscriminately to illustrate his point. Although, I don’t quite know how to put it across in paper.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well I know exactly what to make of your silly statement. What you may have just demonstrated to all here is how little you actually know about what a PhD thesis actually is. It’s a supposition of fact i.e a hypothesis, not to a statement of fact dumb dumb, so how is it supposed to prove or disprove anything? What the hell are you talking about?</p>
<p>Besides why should he post his thesis to establish a point for the benefit of anyone here or anywhere else? Tell me do you splay out the pictures of your girlfriend in the net for all to see? That’s really a private matter between him and his assessors at Monash. </p>
<p>The way I see it the man ran a fair and square race and to shoot him down just because you didn’t bother to read broadly on what a PhD should or should not be simply says you are not a sportsman or even understand that word beyond its dictionary meaning.</p>
<p>I don’t want any part in this. We fight fair and square. We don’t tie our opponents up and expect them to go ten rounds. We don’t post or views and sand bag others who try to respond to them. This we do not do! That is simply not us. </p>
<p>As I said, from what I see the man ran a fair and square race and I don’t think anyone has any basis to question either his integrity or shed aspersions on the merit of his PhD thesis.</p>
<p>If you want to do that take it up with Monash directly, every thesis is open to public review. You mean, you didn’t know that?</p>
<p>Good evening</p>
<p>SD</p>
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		<title>By: To V S RAAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>To V S RAAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;17) V S RAAJ on September 16th, 2008 4.21 pm 
Great for James Gomez finally rounding up a ‘thesis’ so much to his heart leading to his doctorate.&quot;

Imagine if you are locked in a cave for so many years only hearing / staring whatever there was in the cave. One fine day, you come out of the cave, do you sincerely think that is not going to change a bit of how you perceive the outside world and especially on the person who locked you in the cave in the first place, not literally of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;17) V S RAAJ on September 16th, 2008 4.21 pm<br />
Great for James Gomez finally rounding up a ‘thesis’ so much to his heart leading to his doctorate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Imagine if you are locked in a cave for so many years only hearing / staring whatever there was in the cave. One fine day, you come out of the cave, do you sincerely think that is not going to change a bit of how you perceive the outside world and especially on the person who locked you in the cave in the first place, not literally of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the thesis says has to be validated by more detail, with theory bound by conditions and cirumstances. This generally apply to all thesis. It is impractical to generalise the world with just some statement and findings. For example, the political and technological environment of the country plays a important role. 
Internet does affect the political scene but to what extend in Singapore given the reputation of senior old folk and regime who always proclaims themselves to be honest and credible, and give propaganda shit every in MSM. And is quite likely that people will ignore the internet due to negative remark by MSM on internet  blog and commentary. Is MSM still the reckoning force in Singapore where it is the only sole printed state media ?

The pinkish clown once says &quot;increase GST  to help the poor ?&quot; So what condition ? So we know that the condition is to rob Peter first than to pay Peter.

It just be the same with Gomez&#039;s thesis. What conditions govern the theory in Gomez&#039;s thesis ?

Until Gomez&#039;s thesis is opened for all to read, it is hard to validate or invalidate his thesis. Thesis after all is just thesis that comes from analysis and observation, not the rule of nature or universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the thesis says has to be validated by more detail, with theory bound by conditions and cirumstances. This generally apply to all thesis. It is impractical to generalise the world with just some statement and findings. For example, the political and technological environment of the country plays a important role.<br />
Internet does affect the political scene but to what extend in Singapore given the reputation of senior old folk and regime who always proclaims themselves to be honest and credible, and give propaganda shit every in MSM. And is quite likely that people will ignore the internet due to negative remark by MSM on internet  blog and commentary. Is MSM still the reckoning force in Singapore where it is the only sole printed state media ?</p>
<p>The pinkish clown once says &#8220;increase GST  to help the poor ?&#8221; So what condition ? So we know that the condition is to rob Peter first than to pay Peter.</p>
<p>It just be the same with Gomez&#8217;s thesis. What conditions govern the theory in Gomez&#8217;s thesis ?</p>
<p>Until Gomez&#8217;s thesis is opened for all to read, it is hard to validate or invalidate his thesis. Thesis after all is just thesis that comes from analysis and observation, not the rule of nature or universe.</p>
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		<title>By: V S RAAJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>V S RAAJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great for James Gomez finally rounding up a &#039;thesis&#039; so much to his heart leading to his doctorate. End of the day, although the internet represents a voice behind a curtain, real and fisical decision comes with the rule &amp; heart when comes to voting.
Although the internet is at its best for communicating, learning, expressing or just simple fun, it has its dark shadows too. Although an ideal platform to reach the mass, it has its own undoings.
Simplicity is the essence for facts &amp; figures to have any impact then pages &amp; pages of facts &amp; figures or for the matter thesis! Whatever positive outlook the internet may carry, till there is acredible opposition worthy of attention or discussion, the internet is best left minus a political platform!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great for James Gomez finally rounding up a &#8216;thesis&#8217; so much to his heart leading to his doctorate. End of the day, although the internet represents a voice behind a curtain, real and fisical decision comes with the rule &amp; heart when comes to voting.<br />
Although the internet is at its best for communicating, learning, expressing or just simple fun, it has its dark shadows too. Although an ideal platform to reach the mass, it has its own undoings.<br />
Simplicity is the essence for facts &amp; figures to have any impact then pages &amp; pages of facts &amp; figures or for the matter thesis! Whatever positive outlook the internet may carry, till there is acredible opposition worthy of attention or discussion, the internet is best left minus a political platform!!!</p>
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		<title>By: drycleaning amah</title>
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		<dc:creator>drycleaning amah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to agree very much with the commentator in comment (14) where he said, he is unable to tell the forest from the trees. I too seem to suffer from the same sinking feeling. Something is amiss.

I don&#039;t believe the internet does not have any impact on politics. It has in virtually every single country, without a single exception, so why should sg be any different?

I personally think only the brotherhood ppl can answer this question or perhaps another group who may have proven proficiency in numbers and put many of our thoughts and suspicion to rest. 

The problem is they will also take Gomez to the cleaners. That may not be such a good thing. In that sense, I have to commend the brotherhood for staying well clear from commenting about J.Gomez&#039;s thesis.

They are wise. As their leader once said, we take no sides politically. We are neutral. We are pick and choose our battles so that no one can make use of us politically or otherwise. We have to do this and if possible we try not to interfere when we see political parties trying to kill each other, its none of our business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to agree very much with the commentator in comment (14) where he said, he is unable to tell the forest from the trees. I too seem to suffer from the same sinking feeling. Something is amiss.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe the internet does not have any impact on politics. It has in virtually every single country, without a single exception, so why should sg be any different?</p>
<p>I personally think only the brotherhood ppl can answer this question or perhaps another group who may have proven proficiency in numbers and put many of our thoughts and suspicion to rest. </p>
<p>The problem is they will also take Gomez to the cleaners. That may not be such a good thing. In that sense, I have to commend the brotherhood for staying well clear from commenting about J.Gomez&#8217;s thesis.</p>
<p>They are wise. As their leader once said, we take no sides politically. We are neutral. We are pick and choose our battles so that no one can make use of us politically or otherwise. We have to do this and if possible we try not to interfere when we see political parties trying to kill each other, its none of our business.</p>
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		<title>By: lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One unique feature of elections in Singapore and Malaysia has also been the ruling party&#039;s post-independence bounce which has been steadily decreasing over the decades (and the exception of a SDP gifted boost) which also skews the results. Without the SDP campaign of opposition self destruction, trend analysis suggests that PAP votes could have fallen to 5X% in the last election. 

Having said that, Mr Gomez&#039;s finding is not a surprising conclusion. Ultimately despite the above, voters vote according to the impact on their lives to which the Internet is merely a medium.

There is a difference between being told that things are bad vis a vis actually feeling it. Malaysia is one example where crime, corruption and racial politics have had a decisive impact on people&#039;s lives and accordingly on people&#039;s votes.

However, it is not to say the Internet does not have an impact.

A single issue like siting a FW dormitory will have more impact on votes than a thousand blogs online. However, a thousand blogs online talking about it emphasize the issues. It amplifies the voice and concerns which in turn affect voter preference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One unique feature of elections in Singapore and Malaysia has also been the ruling party&#8217;s post-independence bounce which has been steadily decreasing over the decades (and the exception of a SDP gifted boost) which also skews the results. Without the SDP campaign of opposition self destruction, trend analysis suggests that PAP votes could have fallen to 5X% in the last election. </p>
<p>Having said that, Mr Gomez&#8217;s finding is not a surprising conclusion. Ultimately despite the above, voters vote according to the impact on their lives to which the Internet is merely a medium.</p>
<p>There is a difference between being told that things are bad vis a vis actually feeling it. Malaysia is one example where crime, corruption and racial politics have had a decisive impact on people&#8217;s lives and accordingly on people&#8217;s votes.</p>
<p>However, it is not to say the Internet does not have an impact.</p>
<p>A single issue like siting a FW dormitory will have more impact on votes than a thousand blogs online. However, a thousand blogs online talking about it emphasize the issues. It amplifies the voice and concerns which in turn affect voter preference.</p>
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		<title>By: civil servanter</title>
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		<dc:creator>civil servanter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what to make of this thesis. At one level it comes across as very believable. On another level. Even I can pick some bones with how the author uses statistics indiscriminately to illustrate his point. Although, I dont quite know how to put it across in paper.

I am not going to say, I agree or disagree with its findings. To be honest with you. I dont know how to judge it. Its true, it comes from a very respectable university, but I dont think that is a stamp of approval. Or is it? I dont know. 

At such times, I do hope someone really smart and intelligent, like maybe eli diodati, the brotherhood people or even Dr Cherian George can lend their professional expertise to shed more light into what is said and to even offer a critique by dissecting its various parts. That I feel would make a more balance view, as it is, it&#039;s hard to tell the trees from the forest.

Very hard.

Just my two cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what to make of this thesis. At one level it comes across as very believable. On another level. Even I can pick some bones with how the author uses statistics indiscriminately to illustrate his point. Although, I dont quite know how to put it across in paper.</p>
<p>I am not going to say, I agree or disagree with its findings. To be honest with you. I dont know how to judge it. Its true, it comes from a very respectable university, but I dont think that is a stamp of approval. Or is it? I dont know. </p>
<p>At such times, I do hope someone really smart and intelligent, like maybe eli diodati, the brotherhood people or even Dr Cherian George can lend their professional expertise to shed more light into what is said and to even offer a critique by dissecting its various parts. That I feel would make a more balance view, as it is, it&#8217;s hard to tell the trees from the forest.</p>
<p>Very hard.</p>
<p>Just my two cents</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 16 Sep 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 16 Sep 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don’t need no regulation - TOC: Democracy and Elections: The Impact of Online Politics in Singapore - TOC: Films of demos and assemblies approved by the authorities - No &#8220;partisan stuff&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] don’t need no regulation &#8211; TOC: Democracy and Elections: The Impact of Online Politics in Singapore &#8211; TOC: Films of demos and assemblies approved by the authorities &#8211; No &#8220;partisan stuff&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 03:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can James Gomez publish his whole thesis on the net ? It is best to read the result of his findings with detailed perspective and evidence. A lot of his words are taken out of context and only judge purely by abridged statements. It is naturally for many to denigrate his findings because some statements look generalised and deviate from local observation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can James Gomez publish his whole thesis on the net ? It is best to read the result of his findings with detailed perspective and evidence. A lot of his words are taken out of context and only judge purely by abridged statements. It is naturally for many to denigrate his findings because some statements look generalised and deviate from local observation.</p>
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		<title>By: ypap</title>
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		<dc:creator>ypap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electoral system reform. Isn&#039;t this what JBJ and SDP have been saying for years????</description>
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		<title>By: How many actually supports this kind of system?</title>
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		<dc:creator>How many actually supports this kind of system?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While have some trust in our leaders and the system they created for the benefit of the people....ah hemmmm.....
I have an itch to know
if given a poll to ALL citizens as in ALL CITIZENS,
how many really approves the GRC system ?

Just an itch i have for a long time. 
Maybe TOC can interview people on the streets with their faces mosaic&#039;d , if they choose, to express their love for this kind of system or how they appreciate this kind of system , on youtube.
The reason for asking this is, I forgot was there news / tv report about this thing. Maybe TOC video or Mr Seelan can take the lead in this aspect.

I am sure many would appreciate this effort.

regards
Ho PinkPink
&quot;we will never loose with the ....&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While have some trust in our leaders and the system they created for the benefit of the people&#8230;.ah hemmmm&#8230;..<br />
I have an itch to know<br />
if given a poll to ALL citizens as in ALL CITIZENS,<br />
how many really approves the GRC system ?</p>
<p>Just an itch i have for a long time.<br />
Maybe TOC can interview people on the streets with their faces mosaic&#8217;d , if they choose, to express their love for this kind of system or how they appreciate this kind of system , on youtube.<br />
The reason for asking this is, I forgot was there news / tv report about this thing. Maybe TOC video or Mr Seelan can take the lead in this aspect.</p>
<p>I am sure many would appreciate this effort.</p>
<p>regards<br />
Ho PinkPink<br />
&#8220;we will never loose with the &#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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