Comments on: Ho Peng Kee: PCF activity different from PAP activity

By: why

why — Wed, 15 Dec 2010 04:24:36 +0000

those of you who kept using the “66.6%” as your so called “counter-attack”, you do realise that those “66.6%” who you kept blaming for giving pap the “mandate” do not necessarily hang around here right? and you do realise that those “66.6%” who voted for the pap numbers just about 700k right? and you do realise that the odds are against us from the very beginning in every elections right?

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By: Black

Black — Thu, 25 Sep 2008 08:13:37 +0000

I dont even know why anyone bothers to reason with the PAP or try to find some logic in their reasoning or some measure of sense in what they say. remember this.

EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS CORRECT AND TRUE.

IF YOU SAY ANYTHING OTHERWISE YOU ARE CALLING THEM LIARS AND ARE DEFAMING THEM.

So wtf is the point of arguing?

It should be all simple with everone now. We should just quit this damm country (while we still can)!

By: Fong M.Y.

Fong M.Y. — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:14:55 +0000

Hi ! to all Singapore Elites,

Kindly stop insulting our wisdom, we understands what are the meanings of these words : Nepotism, Constituted Rule of Law, Democracy, Justice, Power Abuse, Lips Service And Being Conscientious to serve the Peoples.

Please don’t brings more shame to your own FamiLee’s Ancestors and Our Country.

Best Regards,
Fong M.Y.

By: political tsunami

political tsunami — Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:59:04 +0000

Talk so much no use. Just vote them out. Haven’t u people got bluff so many time till u feel so numb already.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:27:46 +0000

Strange Love,
Glad someone mention it as I know along this happens but wonder why take so long for someone to mention it.
well, in uniquely Singapore, any kangaroo reasons can be accepted as long as it is from Kangaroo.
That is the problem with a party having absolute power. What they say is like a mandate from emperor. No one to dispute it, no one to question it, no one to give a damn anymore. It will just be moved on very soon. Anyway, this debacle will just be hopped away just like those before it and gradually fade from memory of the citizen. Did someone mention about RC too ?
Like AngMoh friends tell me, Singaporean is well-known for short memory and I totally agree.
Sad. Very sad.

By: Strange Love

Strange Love — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:59:21 +0000

Strange explanation and obviously lying. My friend who works in PCF says all PCF staff by default becomes PAP member and during elections, they have roster and is expected to help MPs in their campaigning and walkabouts.

This means PCF is a political arm of PAP since it indulges in political activities and campaigns. PCF is poltical and carry heavy political overtones and connotations even if it is just a family event and have a social mission, which political party have no family event and social mission ??.

This kind of low grade explanation, parliament can also accept ??

By: tranb

tranb — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 06:14:25 +0000

I give him no marks for the way he explain to the question posed by Sylvia,
but full marks for being able to twist and turn better than Chubby Checker!

By: Daniel

Daniel — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:31:48 +0000

“They said without PAP, Singapore will die? Is that true?”

Those clowns also said that protest will create riot and violence, and Singapore cannot tahan it, and yet I never see riot and violence when protest held in Hong Lim Park, so why MSM keep mum about this revelation ? Gullible Singaporean good to bully, is it ?

By: suf

suf — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:46:45 +0000

the pap is not really good at playing with words in parliament. I do not think most reasonable people would accept the fact that PCF is a charitable foundation since inception and this is one reason why permit was issued to them. Let’s face a fact. Ho Peng Kee said it’s affiliated to the PAP. True the PCF is tasked to educate the children and assist the needy but the bigger question arise by whose definition of education will we be teaching the little kids? Neutral syllabus? Much as PAP would like to said this, we all know that it would be difficult to happen since PCF itself is actually affiliated to PAP. I am really afraid that these small little kids will grow up to believe that PAP=Singapore=Government. When the fact is Govt is temporal and elected. PCF contain the PAP symbol which must be questioned. I would plead that the opposition put up a strong case for this. WCF maybe you could try one. I am extremely perturbed by the fact that PAP is actually arrogantly crediting itself with what Singapore has been achieving without actually thanking the ordinary folks out there. They said without PAP, Singapore will die? Is that true?

PAP controls People Association and all. This makes the youths (the Universities, Polytechnics and other students) feels a bit irritated with the ruling Party. We want democracy especially at Tanjong Pagar. We need to test the mettle of the PAP. We really need. We do not want this country to be a on eparty system. Singaporeans let’s stand up and prove to the PAP that we do not need them for us to survive. What we need is genuine, and talented Singaporeans with the spirit to serve…and no I’m not referring to the Govt scholars per se.

By: isa

isa — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:05:27 +0000

Comment 39 – Jack..
HPK feel stupid spewing those craps?
Don’t kid yourself.. he is laughing his ass off just thinking how stupid you are to be willing to accept that crap without a fight.

Oh btw, for that kind of money.. I am willing to bare my ass on National TV if my master demands it.

By: isa

isa — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:01:43 +0000

yup.. don’t cry over spil milk…

Every election year, they walked right back into parliament without breaking a sweat.

Who can blame them if they believe they have the mandate of the people?

By: F1 may give heart attack ?

F1 may give heart attack ? — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:28:38 +0000

38) ronin on September 18th, 2008 11.55 am
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Allow me to suggest a concern I have from a nightmare I had last night.

I dreamt that F1 being exciting and thrilling and outdoor sport caused a ah pek heart pulpitation problem and he went to hospital for heart check as he kenna heart attack and also due to sniffing in the fumes from the F1 tires.

Is this valid concern that outdoor sports like F1 can cause fatalities?
i no no , just concerned. what about you?

even walking on road may be dangerous wor.

By: jack

jack — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 09:26:46 +0000

I think HPK himself feel how stupid he sounded spewing these craps.
But because he is part of the system, he’ got to swallow his pride and went along with the flow to the ridicule of the masses. Pity that for the sake of well paid position, he is willing to be the court jester.
Tell you so much about our Div 1 leaders!

By: Victor

Victor — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:44:17 +0000

PCF activity is different from PAP activity???
ALL IS BULL SHIT>>…<<< who believe…??/

COme on,don made sing pp seen like kid or animals…!!OK…

wat the gov ans made me feel like vomiting..
all the law just to protect themselves?? hai.,now tekong can bring handphone lo,must thank LKY grandson…hahas.,.but its good for Ns man..:)

but in the next election,GOD WILL BLESS opposition party..but not pap anymore.becos their fate is going to over…

hahas.
singaporeans,,please don make me disappointed again..
STAND UP.don be scared..PAP members is just people,human being..
THEY R rich….so what….all of the singaporeans have ONE vote,no matter rich or poor…
STand up to make a different singapore…thank.
from:
@young generation@

By: ronin

ronin — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 03:55:59 +0000

Maybe Ho PK can provide us “ignorant” citizens of what constitutes a “non-dangerous” outdoor event.

We can start the list with “short distance cycling”, since Ho PK has implied that this is “safe”.

How “dangerous” is roller-blading as an outdoor event? Barbecuing? Captain’s Ball? Table tennis?

By: KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U

KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:43:26 +0000

What is the meaning of Liberalization in spore context?

Let this be clear to the people.

btw I like the pic of hpk, he seems to be holding something in the air ?
i not sure.

By: KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U

KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:35:23 +0000

3) ronin on September 16th, 2008 9.40 pm What Ho Peng Kee is effectively saying is that all other political parties except PAP are only alowed to hold small scale outdoor events at the pathetic Hong Lim Park. PAP is and will continue to freely hold outdoor events at any venue of their fancy!!

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But they say LIBERALISE what ? no meh ?

Btw, I got this weird impression that an opposition party in spore is not as effective as an Activist group in terms of voicing up at HLP.

This is the mudder of all irony.

Spore 1st world ah!

What happened to IBA thingies har?

regards
Pinkie Ho

By: KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U

KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:32:24 +0000

20) Tulan on September 17th, 2008 12.02 pm Usual crap from this guy who groups citizens and PRs under “Residents’. ‘Foreigners now refers to those awaiting PR approval, and on work permit, employment pass, etc.
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Can we confirm he is the one who so creatively grouped the foreigners with the locals into 1 category for the ‘benefit’ of giving clearer statistics to unemployment rate? PR is a foreigner holding a long term work permit, in my humble and layman view.

HPK so intelligent! which ward or GRC he contesting in next har?

Must shift there to support him.

By: KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U

KANGAROOT_NUT_TO_U — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:27:28 +0000

18) lim on September 17th, 2008 9.24 am

…..
Prof Ho suggest that PCF is ok because its activities are non-political but non-political activity performed by PAP or WP not allowed.

This suggest that WP can set up a structure just to perform the activity = ok? Then the focus goes onto the structure or form rather than the substance.
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There are 2 ways at least to find out if the same method can be used by WP.
1. WP register a charity org the same as that of PCF.
2. the other way to find out : We already know the answer.