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		<title>By: aol166</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/much-ado-about-nothing-ptc/comment-page-1/#comment-22076</link>
		<dc:creator>aol166</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 02:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Public transportation here is a joke. I was &quot;trained&quot; to think that we have a &quot;world class transportation system&quot;. Yes, we have. Compared to Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines, Brazil, Uganda, Nigeria, R.o.Congo and other third world countries. Yes, we are world class in the Third World sense of the word. Compared to First World countries which we should be comparing to, we are not even there. I used to believe this propaganda but eventually, I found out that it is not true. In Germany, public transportation is so comprehensive, you can find a train station, tram or bus any where. Their tram, bus and train system are integrated (one fare system) They have comprehensive season fare (75 Euros for one month for then entire Frankfurt encompassing buses, trams and train systems within Frankfurt) Wow, I was blown out of my mind. $150 to go anywhere, anytime. We don&#039;t even have a season pass system in our not so comprehensive transportation system. Even if we have I can not imaging it being $150. I assume it will be more like $300.

Hurray to our &quot;world class transportation system&quot;.... Hurray to the PTC&#039;s price increase. We should have price increase to compensate the &quot;world class&quot; system.

Also, lets not be disillusioned about SMRT and Delgro. They are here to make money, not to serve Singaporeans. 

I heard a saying : Singapore is a selective democracy with concentrated capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Public transportation here is a joke. I was &#8220;trained&#8221; to think that we have a &#8220;world class transportation system&#8221;. Yes, we have. Compared to Malaysia, Indonesia, Phillipines, Brazil, Uganda, Nigeria, R.o.Congo and other third world countries. Yes, we are world class in the Third World sense of the word. Compared to First World countries which we should be comparing to, we are not even there. I used to believe this propaganda but eventually, I found out that it is not true. In Germany, public transportation is so comprehensive, you can find a train station, tram or bus any where. Their tram, bus and train system are integrated (one fare system) They have comprehensive season fare (75 Euros for one month for then entire Frankfurt encompassing buses, trams and train systems within Frankfurt) Wow, I was blown out of my mind. $150 to go anywhere, anytime. We don&#8217;t even have a season pass system in our not so comprehensive transportation system. Even if we have I can not imaging it being $150. I assume it will be more like $300.</p>
<p>Hurray to our &#8220;world class transportation system&#8221;&#8230;. Hurray to the PTC&#8217;s price increase. We should have price increase to compensate the &#8220;world class&#8221; system.</p>
<p>Also, lets not be disillusioned about SMRT and Delgro. They are here to make money, not to serve Singaporeans. </p>
<p>I heard a saying : Singapore is a selective democracy with concentrated capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Yi Long</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yi Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 02:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s nothing much we the citizen can do about it. Year after year, they can come up with new reasons to make sure the fares are increased and the 2 companies have their revenues increased.

However, despite knowing that our voices will fall on deaf ears, if there&#039;s any ears out there at all, we should still con&#039;t to voice our views and discontent. Never go down without a fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s nothing much we the citizen can do about it. Year after year, they can come up with new reasons to make sure the fares are increased and the 2 companies have their revenues increased.</p>
<p>However, despite knowing that our voices will fall on deaf ears, if there&#8217;s any ears out there at all, we should still con&#8217;t to voice our views and discontent. Never go down without a fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not only do I face deteriorating services - I have to wait until the 3rd train before I can squeeze myself on-board and it’s only 7am in the morning…&quot;

Oh, better don&#039;t tell this to the minister least the pathetic and world-class minister will proudly tell you that without the increment, you will have to wait for the fifth train !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not only do I face deteriorating services &#8211; I have to wait until the 3rd train before I can squeeze myself on-board and it’s only 7am in the morning…&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, better don&#8217;t tell this to the minister least the pathetic and world-class minister will proudly tell you that without the increment, you will have to wait for the fifth train !</p>
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		<title>By: tiredsingaporean</title>
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		<dc:creator>tiredsingaporean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys can say all you like here but does this going to change anything? Fat hope! Since when do they ever really listen? don&#039;t forget they simply go ahead with anything that they can rip in alot of $$$ and do anything to stop the you guys from getting back your life savings, you think they bother? wait long long</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys can say all you like here but does this going to change anything? Fat hope! Since when do they ever really listen? don&#8217;t forget they simply go ahead with anything that they can rip in alot of $$$ and do anything to stop the you guys from getting back your life savings, you think they bother? wait long long</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael (#22) and Anonymous (#26): 

There is one obvious primary culprit for the fare hikes in public transport, unlike the case of fish ball noodle price hike. Moreover, it is still possible to find fish ball noodle stalls charging less than $2.50. Given that one of you had mentioned Singaporeans are less vocal on fishball noodle price hike, has it not occurred to you that this shows that the service quality provided by the fish ball noodle stalls leave their customers more satisfied than commuters taking public transport in Singapore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael (#22) and Anonymous (#26): </p>
<p>There is one obvious primary culprit for the fare hikes in public transport, unlike the case of fish ball noodle price hike. Moreover, it is still possible to find fish ball noodle stalls charging less than $2.50. Given that one of you had mentioned Singaporeans are less vocal on fishball noodle price hike, has it not occurred to you that this shows that the service quality provided by the fish ball noodle stalls leave their customers more satisfied than commuters taking public transport in Singapore?</p>
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		<title>By: xtrocious</title>
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		<dc:creator>xtrocious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolute hogwash - I take the direct train to work every day

Not only do I face deteriorating services - I have to wait until the 3rd train before I can squeeze myself on-board and it&#039;s only 7am in the morning...

And to add insult to injury, I have to pay more come Oct 1?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolute hogwash &#8211; I take the direct train to work every day</p>
<p>Not only do I face deteriorating services &#8211; I have to wait until the 3rd train before I can squeeze myself on-board and it&#8217;s only 7am in the morning&#8230;</p>
<p>And to add insult to injury, I have to pay more come Oct 1?</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I take a Feeder Bus to the town centre, quickly order some take away and then take another Feeder Bus back home, how much will I be charged?

I&#039;m like at most 10 metres away (the bus stop across the street) from the point of origin of my travel no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I take a Feeder Bus to the town centre, quickly order some take away and then take another Feeder Bus back home, how much will I be charged?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m like at most 10 metres away (the bus stop across the street) from the point of origin of my travel no?</p>
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		<title>By: Hi Donaldson, you are back too!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hi Donaldson, you are back too!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 05:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donaldson Tan:  

I&#039;m sure being a potential graduate of UofC, good for you, You&#039;ll see things clearer by Sem 2.. Any government is somewhat an Enterprise of sorts. I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve read a lot on Sovereign  Wealth Funds of late. Whether or not there are differentiating variables, factors or motives behind the increases,  the end-game is still similar - PROFIT...or PROFIT-EERING. Can we honestly say that an increase of 50 cents to $1.00 per bowl of Fishball Noodles is justifiable when it gives a sudden pay rise of $1500-$3000 per month to hawkers&#039; pockets? Check out the price of  noodles, fishballs and all the hums and you get the answer. I mean wholesale price. 
As for 6.5m it&#039;s an obvious rhetoric. Walk around HK. the answer is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donaldson Tan:  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure being a potential graduate of UofC, good for you, You&#8217;ll see things clearer by Sem 2.. Any government is somewhat an Enterprise of sorts. I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve read a lot on Sovereign  Wealth Funds of late. Whether or not there are differentiating variables, factors or motives behind the increases,  the end-game is still similar &#8211; PROFIT&#8230;or PROFIT-EERING. Can we honestly say that an increase of 50 cents to $1.00 per bowl of Fishball Noodles is justifiable when it gives a sudden pay rise of $1500-$3000 per month to hawkers&#8217; pockets? Check out the price of  noodles, fishballs and all the hums and you get the answer. I mean wholesale price.<br />
As for 6.5m it&#8217;s an obvious rhetoric. Walk around HK. the answer is there.</p>
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		<title>By: Teo Kueh Liang</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/much-ado-about-nothing-ptc/comment-page-1/#comment-21469</link>
		<dc:creator>Teo Kueh Liang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 04:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To some Singaporeans, if they can take direct bus to work and for other commitments, there will be zero discount for them when new fare system comes into effect in Oct 08&#039;. Hence, it makes no sense for them to make trips of transfers for the public transport, in order to enjoy or taking advantage of the fare&#039;s
discount/reduction.

Further, I find the bus operator, especially the SBS Transit, it needs to improve its frequency of bus fleet deployment and scheduling in order to cut the problem of bus bunching. I have always waited for bus 52 for about 30 minutes in the morning everyday, between 7.21 to 8.10am at the bus-stop opposite Sunset Way,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To some Singaporeans, if they can take direct bus to work and for other commitments, there will be zero discount for them when new fare system comes into effect in Oct 08&#8242;. Hence, it makes no sense for them to make trips of transfers for the public transport, in order to enjoy or taking advantage of the fare&#8217;s<br />
discount/reduction.</p>
<p>Further, I find the bus operator, especially the SBS Transit, it needs to improve its frequency of bus fleet deployment and scheduling in order to cut the problem of bus bunching. I have always waited for bus 52 for about 30 minutes in the morning everyday, between 7.21 to 8.10am at the bus-stop opposite Sunset Way,</p>
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		<title>By: Hi Michael, you are back again.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hi Michael, you are back again.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20) Michael on September 15th, 2008 8.39 am

Can you tell clearly between : 

1) Real free market competition (e.g fishball knoodles or mee siam or raw hums) in the private sector with a lot of market players to provide equivalent or substitution with maybe limited space as the most constraining variable. Currently, I do not see any GLCs providing fishball noodles and mee siam and yes hums also. 

2) Essential PUBLIC service (monopoly ?) operating in a pseudo free market environment with ERP, COE, road tax, etc to inflate (artificially ?) the cost of alternative private travelling with limited space (for both roads &amp; parking space) again as the worst constraining variable. 

So do you think it is fun to increase your population to 6.5m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20) Michael on September 15th, 2008 8.39 am</p>
<p>Can you tell clearly between : </p>
<p>1) Real free market competition (e.g fishball knoodles or mee siam or raw hums) in the private sector with a lot of market players to provide equivalent or substitution with maybe limited space as the most constraining variable. Currently, I do not see any GLCs providing fishball noodles and mee siam and yes hums also. </p>
<p>2) Essential PUBLIC service (monopoly ?) operating in a pseudo free market environment with ERP, COE, road tax, etc to inflate (artificially ?) the cost of alternative private travelling with limited space (for both roads &amp; parking space) again as the worst constraining variable. </p>
<p>So do you think it is fun to increase your population to 6.5m.</p>
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		<title>By: The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 15 Sel 2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Singapore Daily &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Daily SG: 15 Sel 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Public Transport Forum at Hong Lim Park - TOC: Rethinking public transport - TOC: Bloggers speak up against public transport shortcomings at Speakers’ Corner - Gerald Giam: Thank you for attending TOC&#8217;s public transport forum - Things and experiences in my life: TOC at the Speakers’ Corner TOC - Against the Public Transport Price Hike - The Lionheart: Milestones - Jacob&#8217;s Weblog: The &#8220;Gomez Findings&#8221; should serve as a rallying wake-up call - TOC: Much ado about nothing, PTC? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Public Transport Forum at Hong Lim Park &#8211; TOC: Rethinking public transport &#8211; TOC: Bloggers speak up against public transport shortcomings at Speakers’ Corner &#8211; Gerald Giam: Thank you for attending TOC&#8217;s public transport forum &#8211; Things and experiences in my life: TOC at the Speakers’ Corner TOC &#8211; Against the Public Transport Price Hike &#8211; The Lionheart: Milestones &#8211; Jacob&#8217;s Weblog: The &#8220;Gomez Findings&#8221; should serve as a rallying wake-up call &#8211; TOC: Much ado about nothing, PTC? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/much-ado-about-nothing-ptc/comment-page-1/#comment-21457</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donaldson Tan:  To be frank, whether it is alone or not, it is more like &quot;much ado
about nothing&quot; (similar to Article&#039;s header). I cannot imagine how people who sell food at Food Court or Hawker Centres can get away with blatant profiteering. Nothing is being done about this. What&#039;s the hooha about this 4 cents (no offense to TOC! you guys are good!) when others can get away with a 50 cents to $1.00 hike without batting an eyelid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donaldson Tan:  To be frank, whether it is alone or not, it is more like &#8220;much ado<br />
about nothing&#8221; (similar to Article&#8217;s header). I cannot imagine how people who sell food at Food Court or Hawker Centres can get away with blatant profiteering. Nothing is being done about this. What&#8217;s the hooha about this 4 cents (no offense to TOC! you guys are good!) when others can get away with a 50 cents to $1.00 hike without batting an eyelid?</p>
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		<title>By: Donaldson Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donaldson Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 01:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael: Do you think people are rallying together over a 4-cent hike alone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: Do you think people are rallying together over a 4-cent hike alone?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some comments to share:

Reading all the comments here, I begin to wonder whether the 4 cents fare hike is indeed &quot;much ado about nothing&quot; - literally. I&#039;ve not read complaints on blatant increase in the price of food at food courts or hawker centres. Why? A bowl of fishball knoodles used to cost $2 and now jumps to $2.50. Do you think it is justifiable? I may sound out of sync here but what is a 50 cents increase compared to 4 cents? 
On emigration, China seems to be the best alternative to consider. You can rent an apartment for around S$120 p.m (2 bedrooms, one hall and a kitchen), very,very cheap fish, vegetables and other necessities. cab fare starts from around S$1.40 - too cheap! I  wonder why no one talks about this alternative. The answer is quite obvious perhaps When China cut fuel subsidy why no big hooha? The answer again seems obvious. 
Don&#039;t get me wong. I&#039;m not saying that the 4 cents fare hike come October 1st is fully justifiable (same for food price hike which is worst) but let&#039;s be frank about one thing: There is some certainty here.  There is PTC to oversee and keep public fare hike in check. Why isn&#039;t there say a &quot;FCC (Food Control Council)&quot;  in place to keep food prices in check as Singaporeans eat out often? I wonder.
I have an aged sick mother-in-law who is 83 years of age and has to travel by cab to Polyclinic which costs me almost $5 per trip per appointment in any one month. 
My point is: (to give an analogy) one cannot expect to have fine dining at say Jade Crystal Restaurant and expect the bill to be below S$10.  
The bottom line is really $$$ can get you somewhere (as one reader implied here).  Get the point?
Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some comments to share:</p>
<p>Reading all the comments here, I begin to wonder whether the 4 cents fare hike is indeed &#8220;much ado about nothing&#8221; &#8211; literally. I&#8217;ve not read complaints on blatant increase in the price of food at food courts or hawker centres. Why? A bowl of fishball knoodles used to cost $2 and now jumps to $2.50. Do you think it is justifiable? I may sound out of sync here but what is a 50 cents increase compared to 4 cents?<br />
On emigration, China seems to be the best alternative to consider. You can rent an apartment for around S$120 p.m (2 bedrooms, one hall and a kitchen), very,very cheap fish, vegetables and other necessities. cab fare starts from around S$1.40 &#8211; too cheap! I  wonder why no one talks about this alternative. The answer is quite obvious perhaps When China cut fuel subsidy why no big hooha? The answer again seems obvious.<br />
Don&#8217;t get me wong. I&#8217;m not saying that the 4 cents fare hike come October 1st is fully justifiable (same for food price hike which is worst) but let&#8217;s be frank about one thing: There is some certainty here.  There is PTC to oversee and keep public fare hike in check. Why isn&#8217;t there say a &#8220;FCC (Food Control Council)&#8221;  in place to keep food prices in check as Singaporeans eat out often? I wonder.<br />
I have an aged sick mother-in-law who is 83 years of age and has to travel by cab to Polyclinic which costs me almost $5 per trip per appointment in any one month.<br />
My point is: (to give an analogy) one cannot expect to have fine dining at say Jade Crystal Restaurant and expect the bill to be below S$10.<br />
The bottom line is really $$$ can get you somewhere (as one reader implied here).  Get the point?<br />
Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Quo Vadis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quo Vadis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sad day -cometh Oct 1.

Reading all agruments carefully , there is no real reason to be found for the fare hike. Only conclusion is that it is a political and strategic move - the new urgent way of dealing with the people - pre-emption and then a little one off candy help to remind the people.

Sadder in that it has to come th this way - unclear to the policy makers is that by doing so - the great divide is becoming wider.

Thank you TOC - you guys are young and energetic - you deserve the best Singapore can give you. Do not be discouraged by what the PAP MP said as &quot;underwhelmed&quot; ; TOC - your collated suggestions whether workable or not are worth their weight in gold in your efforts in the present circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sad day -cometh Oct 1.</p>
<p>Reading all agruments carefully , there is no real reason to be found for the fare hike. Only conclusion is that it is a political and strategic move &#8211; the new urgent way of dealing with the people &#8211; pre-emption and then a little one off candy help to remind the people.</p>
<p>Sadder in that it has to come th this way &#8211; unclear to the policy makers is that by doing so &#8211; the great divide is becoming wider.</p>
<p>Thank you TOC &#8211; you guys are young and energetic &#8211; you deserve the best Singapore can give you. Do not be discouraged by what the PAP MP said as &#8220;underwhelmed&#8221; ; TOC &#8211; your collated suggestions whether workable or not are worth their weight in gold in your efforts in the present circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; TOC at the Speakers&#8217; Corner TOC - Against the Price Hike A new beginning: Thoughts and experiences of my life</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; TOC at the Speakers&#8217; Corner TOC - Against the Price Hike A new beginning: Thoughts and experiences of my life</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] PS (Fares will be raised by 4c from October 1st onwards. Details and analysis from TOC can be found here.) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hua Xiao Sheng华笑声</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/much-ado-about-nothing-ptc/comment-page-1/#comment-21347</link>
		<dc:creator>Hua Xiao Sheng华笑声</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is going on in Singapore? I don&#039;t really read it. Why? High fever ! 
My frail mother, age 78 years old, told me she don&#039;t take taxi any more. She had complaint a short distance cost $5+. She can&#039;t take a bus because of her health condition. Now, she walk 1km to Marsiling market and Woodlands Polyclinics to cut her living cost. So, what is going on  when USA GDP 0.9% next year (an Ox Lunar Year!)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is going on in Singapore? I don&#8217;t really read it. Why? High fever !<br />
My frail mother, age 78 years old, told me she don&#8217;t take taxi any more. She had complaint a short distance cost $5+. She can&#8217;t take a bus because of her health condition. Now, she walk 1km to Marsiling market and Woodlands Polyclinics to cut her living cost. So, what is going on  when USA GDP 0.9% next year (an Ox Lunar Year!)?</p>
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		<title>By: Hi, mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hi, mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 05:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;My son has an M.Sc (stats) from NUS and has gone over to to NZ thinking that “the grass is greener on the other side.” My uncle is a British (ang moh) UK citizen who condemns their own NHC (national health care) system. &quot;

Even your own son (mind you, a wonderful side venture of yourself and NUS) also thinks the grass is greener there. Never mind, your son can always can come back here. With a M.Sc (stats), he is definitely way in front of a lot of people. 

Hey I have never thought that grass is always greener over the other side, but I do think that a lot of things have to improve here. Too many glaring nuisances unless you choose not to see it ?

As for your ang moh uncle, Singapore is always drooling very badly for people like them. No secret, it is all pasted in the air you breathe. Perhaps, he will begin to fall in love with our health care system after a few years here.

Hey, I also salute people like “Korek2korek” or any participant in so far as he can bring a different perspective to the table which can enrich my outlook, whether it is positive or negative. 

Whoever can walk the talk prevails by setting good examples (not practising double standards). Not talk the talk with plenty of eloquent counter points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;My son has an M.Sc (stats) from NUS and has gone over to to NZ thinking that “the grass is greener on the other side.” My uncle is a British (ang moh) UK citizen who condemns their own NHC (national health care) system. &#8221;</p>
<p>Even your own son (mind you, a wonderful side venture of yourself and NUS) also thinks the grass is greener there. Never mind, your son can always can come back here. With a M.Sc (stats), he is definitely way in front of a lot of people. </p>
<p>Hey I have never thought that grass is always greener over the other side, but I do think that a lot of things have to improve here. Too many glaring nuisances unless you choose not to see it ?</p>
<p>As for your ang moh uncle, Singapore is always drooling very badly for people like them. No secret, it is all pasted in the air you breathe. Perhaps, he will begin to fall in love with our health care system after a few years here.</p>
<p>Hey, I also salute people like “Korek2korek” or any participant in so far as he can bring a different perspective to the table which can enrich my outlook, whether it is positive or negative. </p>
<p>Whoever can walk the talk prevails by setting good examples (not practising double standards). Not talk the talk with plenty of eloquent counter points.</p>
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		<title>By: mike25</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/much-ado-about-nothing-ptc/comment-page-1/#comment-21331</link>
		<dc:creator>mike25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12) Hey, Michael. How are you ? on September 13th, 2008 11.09 am 
&quot; Last of all, I am always thankful that people like you are still around in the internet corner to expand your reach in helping people with serious myopia after having established the competence in the MSM arena. God bless you. May the force with be you for another millenium. Get the picture ?&quot; 

Whoever put this comment, I hope your blessings are indeed sincere. Thanks for that!  I do not write comments here (or anywhere for that matter wiithout factual backup). My son has an M.Sc (stats) from NUS and has gone over to to NZ thinking that &quot;the grass is greener on the other side.&quot;  My uncle is a British (ang moh) UK citizen who condemns their own NHC (national health care) system.  

In sum, I think the &quot;4 cents&quot; goes far beyond nationhood! I salute people like &quot;Korek2korek&quot; who speaks rationally and put forth real concerns. 

In essence, let&#039;s all begin to see the real BIG picture. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>12) Hey, Michael. How are you ? on September 13th, 2008 11.09 am<br />
&#8221; Last of all, I am always thankful that people like you are still around in the internet corner to expand your reach in helping people with serious myopia after having established the competence in the MSM arena. God bless you. May the force with be you for another millenium. Get the picture ?&#8221; </p>
<p>Whoever put this comment, I hope your blessings are indeed sincere. Thanks for that!  I do not write comments here (or anywhere for that matter wiithout factual backup). My son has an M.Sc (stats) from NUS and has gone over to to NZ thinking that &#8220;the grass is greener on the other side.&#8221;  My uncle is a British (ang moh) UK citizen who condemns their own NHC (national health care) system.  </p>
<p>In sum, I think the &#8220;4 cents&#8221; goes far beyond nationhood! I salute people like &#8220;Korek2korek&#8221; who speaks rationally and put forth real concerns. </p>
<p>In essence, let&#8217;s all begin to see the real BIG picture. Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Chua Mui Bee of the hoon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chua Mui Bee of the hoon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9) observer on September 13th, 2008 10.34 am 

Ya, they do it REGULARLY but a slice at a time. 
It wont hurt as much. People forget the pain over time and once used to it, its like drinking water or coffee.

Pay And Pay today till forever more.

The people have spoken.  

Status quo.   

More good years!
Swiss standard!
Number 1!
Welcome FTs! 
Show your gratitude to FTs. 
They can cover your jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9) observer on September 13th, 2008 10.34 am </p>
<p>Ya, they do it REGULARLY but a slice at a time.<br />
It wont hurt as much. People forget the pain over time and once used to it, its like drinking water or coffee.</p>
<p>Pay And Pay today till forever more.</p>
<p>The people have spoken.  </p>
<p>Status quo.   </p>
<p>More good years!<br />
Swiss standard!<br />
Number 1!<br />
Welcome FTs!<br />
Show your gratitude to FTs.<br />
They can cover your jobs.</p>
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