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	<title>Comments on: NTU censors campus news coverage of Chee Soon Juan visit (updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Norris Tan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norris Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2010 12:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think SDP and CSJ really did nothing wrong. 

The NTU&#039;s admin should not be so taken back by the visit. I think the WP, RP and NSP should pay a visit to the 2 UNIs also. 

The opp parties are just trying to work the ground. Or else some ignorant Singaporean will say that opp parties and their Youth Wing are only active during GE and no more action after that. 

I don&#039;t think the opp parties are only active during GEs. It is only that they(opp parties) have been sidelined by the mainstream media. Therefore not much Singaporean will know about their activities from day to day.

I personally came across a NSP guy who was selling the North Star on 2 separate Sunday at 2 different places. I asked him, &quot;Uncle, do you all go about to sell your publications every Sundays.&quot; . He replied me, &quot; Yes, we go to different places in Singapore every Sunday to sell the North Star, it is only that we do not get so much media coverage like the PAP. Haha&quot;

So, it is not really true that opp parties are only active during GEs. It is only that many Singaporean does not know what they are doing.

Unlike, the LHL or LKY visit the UNIs, there will be news coverage showing them giving speeches to the students.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think SDP and CSJ really did nothing wrong. </p>
<p>The NTU&#8217;s admin should not be so taken back by the visit. I think the WP, RP and NSP should pay a visit to the 2 UNIs also. </p>
<p>The opp parties are just trying to work the ground. Or else some ignorant Singaporean will say that opp parties and their Youth Wing are only active during GE and no more action after that. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the opp parties are only active during GEs. It is only that they(opp parties) have been sidelined by the mainstream media. Therefore not much Singaporean will know about their activities from day to day.</p>
<p>I personally came across a NSP guy who was selling the North Star on 2 separate Sunday at 2 different places. I asked him, &#8220;Uncle, do you all go about to sell your publications every Sundays.&#8221; . He replied me, &#8221; Yes, we go to different places in Singapore every Sunday to sell the North Star, it is only that we do not get so much media coverage like the PAP. Haha&#8221;</p>
<p>So, it is not really true that opp parties are only active during GEs. It is only that many Singaporean does not know what they are doing.</p>
<p>Unlike, the LHL or LKY visit the UNIs, there will be news coverage showing them giving speeches to the students.</p>
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		<title>By: The Universal Declaration of Human Rights &#8211; Article 19 &#171;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Universal Declaration of Human Rights &#8211; Article 19 &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 08:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] NTU censors news coverage of Chee Soon Juan [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sgBlogs &#8211; Singapore&#8217;s Blogosphere :: Latest 3 Entries From the Top 200 Singapore Blogs &#171; frozenshouldertreatmentblog.info</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/comment-page-4/#comment-124207</link>
		<dc:creator>sgBlogs &#8211; Singapore&#8217;s Blogosphere :: Latest 3 Entries From the Top 200 Singapore Blogs &#171; frozenshouldertreatmentblog.info</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] continue engaging youths this time at NTU SDP: Democrats write to student body at NTU TOC: NTU censors news coverage of Chee Soon Juan&#8217;s visit SDP: NTU students come alive TOC: NTU students protest at Speaker&#8217;s Corner SDP: SDP turns [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] continue engaging youths this time at NTU SDP: Democrats write to student body at NTU TOC: NTU censors news coverage of Chee Soon Juan&#8217;s visit SDP: NTU students come alive TOC: NTU students protest at Speaker&#8217;s Corner SDP: SDP turns [...]</p>
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		<title>By: YD seeks clarification with NUSPA &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>YD seeks clarification with NUSPA &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] continue engaging youths this time at NTU SDP: Democrats write to student body at NTU TOC: NTU censors news coverage of Chee Soon Juan&#8217;s visit SDP: NTU students come alive TOC: NTU students protest at Speaker&#8217;s Corner SDP: SDP turns [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] continue engaging youths this time at NTU SDP: Democrats write to student body at NTU TOC: NTU censors news coverage of Chee Soon Juan&#8217;s visit SDP: NTU students come alive TOC: NTU students protest at Speaker&#8217;s Corner SDP: SDP turns [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Loosen stranglehold before providing political education &#124; Sgpolitics.net</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loosen stranglehold before providing political education &#124; Sgpolitics.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Online Citizen - NTU censors campus news coverage of Chee Soon Juan visit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Loosen stranglehold before providing political education &#124; The Online Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loosen stranglehold before providing political education &#124; The Online Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 04:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Online Citizen - NTU censors campus news coverage of Chee Soon Juan visit [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Infopack on censorship in Singapore : Ng E-Jay&#8217;s domain</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/comment-page-4/#comment-79774</link>
		<dc:creator>Infopack on censorship in Singapore : Ng E-Jay&#8217;s domain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 11:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] available online. Students respond to the censorship with a protest at Speakers&#8217; Corner. See here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Seng Yi</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ntu-censors-campus-news-coverage-of-chee-soon-juan-visit/comment-page-4/#comment-59408</link>
		<dc:creator>Seng Yi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 07:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To the gov, CSJ spells trouble, fullstop. Its nothing to do with freedom of news in NTU or whatsoever.&quot;

That most of us know. Spelling trouble for them does not mean spelling trouble for us. And that is why there is so much noise. Are you also able to grasp the logic at this end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To the gov, CSJ spells trouble, fullstop. Its nothing to do with freedom of news in NTU or whatsoever.&#8221;</p>
<p>That most of us know. Spelling trouble for them does not mean spelling trouble for us. And that is why there is so much noise. Are you also able to grasp the logic at this end.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed we do not bleed local university here but we nurture SINiversity in SINgapore, one that speak not freely of mind and of injustice but one of convenience and safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed we do not bleed local university here but we nurture SINiversity in SINgapore, one that speak not freely of mind and of injustice but one of convenience and safety.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adain;
Maybe so, but what the govt. considers trouble shouldn&#039;t stop the debate at a university, which per definition is an institution of free thought. If it does, then NTU is simply not a university.

-Anders, lecturer at NTU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adain;<br />
Maybe so, but what the govt. considers trouble shouldn&#8217;t stop the debate at a university, which per definition is an institution of free thought. If it does, then NTU is simply not a university.</p>
<p>-Anders, lecturer at NTU.</p>
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		<title>By: Adain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many debate here yet few grasp the logic. To the gov, CSJ spells trouble, fullstop. Its nothing to do with freedom of news in NTU or whatsoever</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many debate here yet few grasp the logic. To the gov, CSJ spells trouble, fullstop. Its nothing to do with freedom of news in NTU or whatsoever</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A university is supposed to be a bastion of free thought. Even in dictatorships academics try to uphold this tradition. When a president of a university applies political censorship to a student publication, he is going against the most fundamental idea of what a university is. So, what makes me ashamed is partly the actions of my university&#039;s president, partly that it&#039;s faculty doesn&#039;t seem to react on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A university is supposed to be a bastion of free thought. Even in dictatorships academics try to uphold this tradition. When a president of a university applies political censorship to a student publication, he is going against the most fundamental idea of what a university is. So, what makes me ashamed is partly the actions of my university&#8217;s president, partly that it&#8217;s faculty doesn&#8217;t seem to react on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 15:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what exactly about the university are you ashamed of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what exactly about the university are you ashamed of?</p>
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		<title>By: Anders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As part of the NTU faculty, I am now deeply ashamed of my so called &quot;university&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As part of the NTU faculty, I am now deeply ashamed of my so called &#8220;university&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: angkukueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>angkukueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#168

I get constipation and a blocked head by eating too much ang ku kueh.  You on the other hand get constipated and a blocked head by eating too much cheezburgerz! and oily chips.</description>
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<p>I get constipation and a blocked head by eating too much ang ku kueh.  You on the other hand get constipated and a blocked head by eating too much cheezburgerz! and oily chips.</p>
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		<title>By: angkukueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>angkukueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#167

No i have not had a bad experience with the CPIB. I&#039;m interested to read about the details of your experience if you&#039;re willing to share online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#167</p>
<p>No i have not had a bad experience with the CPIB. I&#8217;m interested to read about the details of your experience if you&#8217;re willing to share online.</p>
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		<title>By: Do not eat too much angkukueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Do not eat too much angkukueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>166) angkukueh on October 7th, 2008 5.03 pm 

&quot;Singapore was never ruled by dictators and slave owners so why on earth do i want to allow some dude from the EU to step all over me in the name of his forebears’ past trangressions? &quot;

Forebears’ past trangressions ? Does it really have to be the same kind of past trangressions that the need for human rights is to be invoked.

Maybe you have eaten too much angkukueh that you whole head is too blocked up by the red gluey stuff with that yellowish bean paste.

So why are we using english language to communicate. In fact, the ang moh language is the only written language that I communicate better. So why should we Asians adopt it - it serves a practical purpose right ? 

Human rights are not only the purview for EU or US but for any country and their people simply because it protects the sanctity of a human life better, if one ever needs to call for it one fine day. 

EU or US just happen to have a culture to be noisy and nosy about this human right stuff more than we do and some of us Asians just want to have it because it is just right to have it, period. 

Certain people feel that they are being stepped more by their own kind rather than some foreigners. Hey, we are living in this part of the world and you just look at the way the governing treat the governed over certain matters.

One last thing, do not eat too much angkukueh. Not only it will give you some lousy blocked head, it may also give you some lousy constipation which will make you spew out rubbish from the wrong opening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>166) angkukueh on October 7th, 2008 5.03 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;Singapore was never ruled by dictators and slave owners so why on earth do i want to allow some dude from the EU to step all over me in the name of his forebears’ past trangressions? &#8221;</p>
<p>Forebears’ past trangressions ? Does it really have to be the same kind of past trangressions that the need for human rights is to be invoked.</p>
<p>Maybe you have eaten too much angkukueh that you whole head is too blocked up by the red gluey stuff with that yellowish bean paste.</p>
<p>So why are we using english language to communicate. In fact, the ang moh language is the only written language that I communicate better. So why should we Asians adopt it &#8211; it serves a practical purpose right ? </p>
<p>Human rights are not only the purview for EU or US but for any country and their people simply because it protects the sanctity of a human life better, if one ever needs to call for it one fine day. </p>
<p>EU or US just happen to have a culture to be noisy and nosy about this human right stuff more than we do and some of us Asians just want to have it because it is just right to have it, period. </p>
<p>Certain people feel that they are being stepped more by their own kind rather than some foreigners. Hey, we are living in this part of the world and you just look at the way the governing treat the governed over certain matters.</p>
<p>One last thing, do not eat too much angkukueh. Not only it will give you some lousy blocked head, it may also give you some lousy constipation which will make you spew out rubbish from the wrong opening.</p>
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		<title>By: To angkukueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>To angkukueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Essentially, the PAP has become a dinosaur that is hindering the progress of Singapore&lt;/i&gt; - Donaldson Tan (#164)

All dinosaurs should have died 65 million years ago. Can you handle the evidence that PAP is crony and corrupt objectively? Have you ever experienced taking up the case to CPIB, only to be rejected by authorities while being harrassed for next 10 years by PAP thugs. No policemen will stand up to protect you against the PAP thugs. In the end, my family and I emigrated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Essentially, the PAP has become a dinosaur that is hindering the progress of Singapore</i> &#8211; Donaldson Tan (#164)</p>
<p>All dinosaurs should have died 65 million years ago. Can you handle the evidence that PAP is crony and corrupt objectively? Have you ever experienced taking up the case to CPIB, only to be rejected by authorities while being harrassed for next 10 years by PAP thugs. No policemen will stand up to protect you against the PAP thugs. In the end, my family and I emigrated.</p>
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		<title>By: angkukueh</title>
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		<dc:creator>angkukueh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 09:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donaldson Tan,

&quot;Human rights&quot; is a result of the past abuses carried out by the West. Singapore was never ruled by dictators and slave owners so why on earth do i want to allow some dude from the EU to step all over me in the name of his forebears&#039; past trangressions? 

Just because western media constantly describes LKY as authoritarian/dictatorial doesn&#039;t mean he is. I will describe him as paternal. 

My question to you was question the strategic interests of the PAP for what? At what cost? So that i can go down to Orchard Rd tomorrow and shout so and so is a crony and is corrupt without any proof? What are you dying to say so badly that you cannot say? Is the environment in Singapore really stifling or is it because the economist and the bbc suggest to you so? 

I don&#039;t know what you are referring to by saying &quot;you are aware of the incovenient truths&quot; therefore i reject foriegn interference- inconvenient truths exists in all countries.

In my opinion, essentially, PAP is what keeps Singapore on its path to be a knowledge driven country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donaldson Tan,</p>
<p>&#8220;Human rights&#8221; is a result of the past abuses carried out by the West. Singapore was never ruled by dictators and slave owners so why on earth do i want to allow some dude from the EU to step all over me in the name of his forebears&#8217; past trangressions? </p>
<p>Just because western media constantly describes LKY as authoritarian/dictatorial doesn&#8217;t mean he is. I will describe him as paternal. </p>
<p>My question to you was question the strategic interests of the PAP for what? At what cost? So that i can go down to Orchard Rd tomorrow and shout so and so is a crony and is corrupt without any proof? What are you dying to say so badly that you cannot say? Is the environment in Singapore really stifling or is it because the economist and the bbc suggest to you so? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what you are referring to by saying &#8220;you are aware of the incovenient truths&#8221; therefore i reject foriegn interference- inconvenient truths exists in all countries.</p>
<p>In my opinion, essentially, PAP is what keeps Singapore on its path to be a knowledge driven country.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 17:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;International pressure more often than not refers to western pressure?&quot; 
Does it really matter ?

&quot;What do the foreigners in the video know about Singapore?&quot;
What do majority of  Singaporeans know about Singapore then ? You will be surprised to know majority don&#039;t even know the history and politics of Singapore and very ignorant about it (Just ask your Singapore friends). These foreigners, Asian and western alike are hold jobs pertaining to human right and democracy, as such they consolidate experience in handling similar &quot;undemocratic&quot; country include Asian country, so let&#039;s not belittle them (please don&#039;t it is me who belittle them again). 

&quot;do they have a stake in Singapore? Whose interests are they advancing? Theirs and their country.&quot;
Why ? Can&#039;t we discern this ourselves ? Why do we always held this view that others help us always have agenda ? Are we been lead by propaganda to share the same pragmatic and realistic expectation as our government&#039;s &quot;No free lunch&quot; ? I&#039;m not surprised that Singaporeans are breed to think this way after all LKY once remarked there&#039;s a conspiracy to do us in.

&quot;And threaten the strategic interest of the ruling party?&quot;
What strategic interest does our ruling party has anyway ? 

&quot;The PAP will be out by the next GE if they are corrupt and useless. They can make it a ten person GRC and they still wouldn’t be able to hold on to the constituency.&quot;

Really ? Do you know the GRC is designed to game the election ? What do you think they hire scholars for ? Take a read at YawningBread&#039;s enlightening post 
http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2008/yax-861.htm
It will be naive to think that we can easily vote them out. It won&#039;t be easy. Last election the gov underestimated the opp party. Next election they will devise a better game with more advantageous rules.


&quot;Western soft power in the forms of liberal democracy, religion, media and human rights is means for them to attempt to maintain their position of eminence when the time has come for them to share it with the rest of the world. They are not entirely benign ideologies/beliefs like they want others to believe.&quot;

Are we thinking of Conspiracy theory or are we are just as guilty of it ? Uniquely Singapore indeed that we believe that western power is no good but yet we endorse much of it. Our legal system following british, capitalism follow western idea  etc.  yeah this system not perfect but we still use and influence by the western ideas , so exactly what is the problem ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;International pressure more often than not refers to western pressure?&#8221;<br />
Does it really matter ?</p>
<p>&#8220;What do the foreigners in the video know about Singapore?&#8221;<br />
What do majority of  Singaporeans know about Singapore then ? You will be surprised to know majority don&#8217;t even know the history and politics of Singapore and very ignorant about it (Just ask your Singapore friends). These foreigners, Asian and western alike are hold jobs pertaining to human right and democracy, as such they consolidate experience in handling similar &#8220;undemocratic&#8221; country include Asian country, so let&#8217;s not belittle them (please don&#8217;t it is me who belittle them again). </p>
<p>&#8220;do they have a stake in Singapore? Whose interests are they advancing? Theirs and their country.&#8221;<br />
Why ? Can&#8217;t we discern this ourselves ? Why do we always held this view that others help us always have agenda ? Are we been lead by propaganda to share the same pragmatic and realistic expectation as our government&#8217;s &#8220;No free lunch&#8221; ? I&#8217;m not surprised that Singaporeans are breed to think this way after all LKY once remarked there&#8217;s a conspiracy to do us in.</p>
<p>&#8220;And threaten the strategic interest of the ruling party?&#8221;<br />
What strategic interest does our ruling party has anyway ? </p>
<p>&#8220;The PAP will be out by the next GE if they are corrupt and useless. They can make it a ten person GRC and they still wouldn’t be able to hold on to the constituency.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really ? Do you know the GRC is designed to game the election ? What do you think they hire scholars for ? Take a read at YawningBread&#8217;s enlightening post<br />
<a href="http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2008/yax-861.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.yawningbread.org/arch_2008/yax-861.htm</a><br />
It will be naive to think that we can easily vote them out. It won&#8217;t be easy. Last election the gov underestimated the opp party. Next election they will devise a better game with more advantageous rules.</p>
<p>&#8220;Western soft power in the forms of liberal democracy, religion, media and human rights is means for them to attempt to maintain their position of eminence when the time has come for them to share it with the rest of the world. They are not entirely benign ideologies/beliefs like they want others to believe.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we thinking of Conspiracy theory or are we are just as guilty of it ? Uniquely Singapore indeed that we believe that western power is no good but yet we endorse much of it. Our legal system following british, capitalism follow western idea  etc.  yeah this system not perfect but we still use and influence by the western ideas , so exactly what is the problem ?</p>
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