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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-2/#comment-22077</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Singapore can improve its public transport  just by adopting a few measures:

&gt; stronger regulation - to require SMRT to run more trains during off-peak hours
&gt; allow small operators to provide feeder service, like in Hong kong
&gt; look after the interest of consumers as well, besides being pro-business.

A few simple steps can make a big difference, and can be implemented quite quickly (and not wait for years).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Singapore can improve its public transport  just by adopting a few measures:</p>
<p>&gt; stronger regulation &#8211; to require SMRT to run more trains during off-peak hours<br />
&gt; allow small operators to provide feeder service, like in Hong kong<br />
&gt; look after the interest of consumers as well, besides being pro-business.</p>
<p>A few simple steps can make a big difference, and can be implemented quite quickly (and not wait for years).</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-2/#comment-21546</link>
		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi LBL (#15)

Thanks for sharing your experience. The waiting time is okay, but the crowded trains are the issue. The only way to reduce the over-corwding is to run more trains, and that mean a train at shorter intervals. Remember, that we only have 1 track and only 1 train can be at the station at any time.

If there are more passengers, we need to have more trains running at shorter intervals. If there are less passengers, it is okay to have less train and to wait longer for the traim. Up to 10 minutes is okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi LBL (#15)</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your experience. The waiting time is okay, but the crowded trains are the issue. The only way to reduce the over-corwding is to run more trains, and that mean a train at shorter intervals. Remember, that we only have 1 track and only 1 train can be at the station at any time.</p>
<p>If there are more passengers, we need to have more trains running at shorter intervals. If there are less passengers, it is okay to have less train and to wait longer for the traim. Up to 10 minutes is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: It concerns us</title>
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		<dc:creator>It concerns us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are many improvements in  the bus seevcies recently, for example: driven by market demand, there are increase in premium bus services targeting in getting comunters to their destination during peak hours. SBST has service running parellel with the MRT line from Yishun  to Town, increase in more mrt trains during lunch time.

i support ERP as it is a moe equitable model for use as you pay, except the ERP should charge accordingly to the engine capacity, i.e. Higher engine capacity pay more erp charges.

Your suggestion of using smaller capacity van or bus is not viable, the operating cost is the same as 45 seater bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many improvements in  the bus seevcies recently, for example: driven by market demand, there are increase in premium bus services targeting in getting comunters to their destination during peak hours. SBST has service running parellel with the MRT line from Yishun  to Town, increase in more mrt trains during lunch time.</p>
<p>i support ERP as it is a moe equitable model for use as you pay, except the ERP should charge accordingly to the engine capacity, i.e. Higher engine capacity pay more erp charges.</p>
<p>Your suggestion of using smaller capacity van or bus is not viable, the operating cost is the same as 45 seater bus.</p>
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		<title>By: LBL</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-21409</link>
		<dc:creator>LBL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 10:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a retiree. I take public transport when I need to leave home to meet friends or attend seminars in town. My experience with MRT is it is getting crowded and 10pm is worse if you go through City Hall or Raffle Place when workers and employees in the city area leave their work place . 

Waiting time is ok with me. It is around 3 mins on the average. Of course, if you miss the train when you step onto the platform, it will take you up to 5 mins but seldom I was so unlucky.  

I checked with my son who travels daily to NUS from our home in Yeo Chu Kang area. His experience is: waiting time around 3 mins, occasionally 5  mins. During busy hours it is about 1 to 2 mins as there are more trains. However, the trains are packed especially at the Jurong interchange. He has seen some improvement recently though. 

So mrt waiting time doesnt seem to be an issue with our family . What we would like to see is a comfortable ride (less packed).

As for bus transport, I fully agree with Mr Tan Kin Lian&#039;s proposal to have frequent feeder buses or vans like what Hong Kong does. 

I dream of the day when we can get out from our home, walk a short distance to take a feeder buses or buses and reach any places on this island with ease. I think it is possible if LTA sets this as a target.

If we want to increase the population, if we want to lessen the cost of living, if we want to be environment friendly, we have to cut down cars significantly and do something aggressively to encourage more people to take public transport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a retiree. I take public transport when I need to leave home to meet friends or attend seminars in town. My experience with MRT is it is getting crowded and 10pm is worse if you go through City Hall or Raffle Place when workers and employees in the city area leave their work place . </p>
<p>Waiting time is ok with me. It is around 3 mins on the average. Of course, if you miss the train when you step onto the platform, it will take you up to 5 mins but seldom I was so unlucky.  </p>
<p>I checked with my son who travels daily to NUS from our home in Yeo Chu Kang area. His experience is: waiting time around 3 mins, occasionally 5  mins. During busy hours it is about 1 to 2 mins as there are more trains. However, the trains are packed especially at the Jurong interchange. He has seen some improvement recently though. </p>
<p>So mrt waiting time doesnt seem to be an issue with our family . What we would like to see is a comfortable ride (less packed).</p>
<p>As for bus transport, I fully agree with Mr Tan Kin Lian&#8217;s proposal to have frequent feeder buses or vans like what Hong Kong does. </p>
<p>I dream of the day when we can get out from our home, walk a short distance to take a feeder buses or buses and reach any places on this island with ease. I think it is possible if LTA sets this as a target.</p>
<p>If we want to increase the population, if we want to lessen the cost of living, if we want to be environment friendly, we have to cut down cars significantly and do something aggressively to encourage more people to take public transport.</p>
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		<title>By: isa</title>
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		<dc:creator>isa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 12:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the whole issue has to do with the govt. reluctance to introduce competition.

The govt. reluctance to introduce competition is mystifying as I&#039;m sure they have no vested interest to protect the duopoly since the govt goal is  to serve its citizen..

or maybe is there not enough voices inside the govt serving the citizens?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the whole issue has to do with the govt. reluctance to introduce competition.</p>
<p>The govt. reluctance to introduce competition is mystifying as I&#8217;m sure they have no vested interest to protect the duopoly since the govt goal is  to serve its citizen..</p>
<p>or maybe is there not enough voices inside the govt serving the citizens?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, I almost vomited blood waiting for an Express bus outside Marina Square. The bus schedule stated that the bus will arrive at 2146 and 2216. But the service totally skipped the 2216 timing! As a result, I waited more than 40mins for the bus! And today they have the cheek to announce that they&#039;re raising fares. World class transport indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, I almost vomited blood waiting for an Express bus outside Marina Square. The bus schedule stated that the bus will arrive at 2146 and 2216. But the service totally skipped the 2216 timing! As a result, I waited more than 40mins for the bus! And today they have the cheek to announce that they&#8217;re raising fares. World class transport indeed!</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have only posted once previously regarding my personal experience on the mrt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have only posted once previously regarding my personal experience on the mrt.</p>
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		<title>By: It should be Gus (not GS) , you are good.</title>
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		<dc:creator>It should be Gus (not GS) , you are good.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>42) Gus on September 12th, 2008 11.58 am 

&quot;increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train
=more crowded=square 1&quot;

More trains - cannot - as you explained.
More vehicles - cannot also - as more ERP.
More roads - also cannot - space limited also - and a lot are quite close to residential blocks.

More ppl can lah - 2+million to 4+million + targeted to 6.5+million.
Hey, more ppl will mean more commuting needs, hence commuting modes.

GS, as you are quite good in your logical explanation from your past posts, Could you please juggle the above variables to give me a good fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42) Gus on September 12th, 2008 11.58 am </p>
<p>&#8220;increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train<br />
=more crowded=square 1&#8243;</p>
<p>More trains &#8211; cannot &#8211; as you explained.<br />
More vehicles &#8211; cannot also &#8211; as more ERP.<br />
More roads &#8211; also cannot &#8211; space limited also &#8211; and a lot are quite close to residential blocks.</p>
<p>More ppl can lah &#8211; 2+million to 4+million + targeted to 6.5+million.<br />
Hey, more ppl will mean more commuting needs, hence commuting modes.</p>
<p>GS, as you are quite good in your logical explanation from your past posts, Could you please juggle the above variables to give me a good fit.</p>
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		<title>By: GS, you are good.</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS, you are good.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>44) GS on September 12th, 2008 12.19 pm 

More trains - cannot - as you explained.
More vehicles - cannot also - as more ERP.
More roads - also cannot - space limited also - and a lot are quite close to residential blocks.

More ppl can lah - 2+million to 4+million + targeted to 6.5+million.
Hey, more ppl will mean more commuting needs, hence commuting modes.

GS, as you are quite good in your logical explanation from your past posts, Could you please juggle the above variables to give me a good fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>44) GS on September 12th, 2008 12.19 pm </p>
<p>More trains &#8211; cannot &#8211; as you explained.<br />
More vehicles &#8211; cannot also &#8211; as more ERP.<br />
More roads &#8211; also cannot &#8211; space limited also &#8211; and a lot are quite close to residential blocks.</p>
<p>More ppl can lah &#8211; 2+million to 4+million + targeted to 6.5+million.<br />
Hey, more ppl will mean more commuting needs, hence commuting modes.</p>
<p>GS, as you are quite good in your logical explanation from your past posts, Could you please juggle the above variables to give me a good fit.</p>
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		<title>By: GS</title>
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		<dc:creator>GS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train
=more crowded=square 1

simply flawed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train<br />
=more crowded=square 1</p>
<p>simply flawed.</p>
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		<title>By: What Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who give you the idea that increasing more trains = more wear and tear = more breakdown.

Do you know what is the meaning of regular maintenance?

You are simply arguing on the wrong point.  We are talking about increasing the frequency will make the trains less crowded.  We are not complaining about the 5 minutes wait.  You can keep your argument</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who give you the idea that increasing more trains = more wear and tear = more breakdown.</p>
<p>Do you know what is the meaning of regular maintenance?</p>
<p>You are simply arguing on the wrong point.  We are talking about increasing the frequency will make the trains less crowded.  We are not complaining about the 5 minutes wait.  You can keep your argument</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the point is if you have to wait - you wait.

increasing more trains = more wear and tear = more breakdown.

there is wear and tear. there are breakdowns - can we afford to have more breakdowns?

increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train
=more crowded=square 1

where do we draw the line?
MRT needs to improve - agreed.
the question is how fast the change and how soon.
No doubt some of us may not live long enough to see the change
but that&#039;s life.

I still think a 5 min wait is OK. I still think that taking about an hr travelling to reach your work place is still OK. I still think that a lot of things in Sg now is OK. 

We can do with more comfort, etc, etc - but if not - it is still OK.

It is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the point is if you have to wait &#8211; you wait.</p>
<p>increasing more trains = more wear and tear = more breakdown.</p>
<p>there is wear and tear. there are breakdowns &#8211; can we afford to have more breakdowns?</p>
<p>increase more trains=more comfort= more people will take train<br />
=more crowded=square 1</p>
<p>where do we draw the line?<br />
MRT needs to improve &#8211; agreed.<br />
the question is how fast the change and how soon.<br />
No doubt some of us may not live long enough to see the change<br />
but that&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>I still think a 5 min wait is OK. I still think that taking about an hr travelling to reach your work place is still OK. I still think that a lot of things in Sg now is OK. </p>
<p>We can do with more comfort, etc, etc &#8211; but if not &#8211; it is still OK.</p>
<p>It is OK.</p>
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		<title>By: What Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>What Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 02:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be helpful to put up logical points to make your argument strong.  Simply using toilet cubicles in shopping centres to argue against the request for increasing the frequency of trains and more carriages does not make sense. 

Using public transport daily to commute to work is an essential service.  Going to shopping centre looking for toilets is an emergency.  

#38  The MRT is not a perfect system in the first place when it was first mooted. it still isn’t. If you put too many trains or too many carriages, etc wear and tear, etc - if the train has a minor breakdown, etc etc… everybody suffers.

Are you implying that currently there is no wear and tear and no breakdowns?

Kin Lian&#039;s contenytion:
If more trains are operated during the off-peak hours, the operating expenses may increase marginally. But the passengers can enjoy a significant improvement in comfort and quality of service. Less crowded trains will encourage more people to take the train, especially during the off-peak hours. This increase in business will more than offset the higher operating cost. It is the classical “chicken and egg” question.

The call to increase the frequency of trains is not totally unreasonable.  The increase in frequency will definitely ease the sardine packed trains and make it less stressful for commuters.

The fact that they are increasing the frequency of trains during the F1 race is proof that smrt can do it but refuse to do it.

We are talking improving the service and make travelling in mrt a little more comfortable.  It is right to say that the mrt system is not perfect and this is where they have to imporve upon it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be helpful to put up logical points to make your argument strong.  Simply using toilet cubicles in shopping centres to argue against the request for increasing the frequency of trains and more carriages does not make sense. </p>
<p>Using public transport daily to commute to work is an essential service.  Going to shopping centre looking for toilets is an emergency.  </p>
<p>#38  The MRT is not a perfect system in the first place when it was first mooted. it still isn’t. If you put too many trains or too many carriages, etc wear and tear, etc &#8211; if the train has a minor breakdown, etc etc… everybody suffers.</p>
<p>Are you implying that currently there is no wear and tear and no breakdowns?</p>
<p>Kin Lian&#8217;s contenytion:<br />
If more trains are operated during the off-peak hours, the operating expenses may increase marginally. But the passengers can enjoy a significant improvement in comfort and quality of service. Less crowded trains will encourage more people to take the train, especially during the off-peak hours. This increase in business will more than offset the higher operating cost. It is the classical “chicken and egg” question.</p>
<p>The call to increase the frequency of trains is not totally unreasonable.  The increase in frequency will definitely ease the sardine packed trains and make it less stressful for commuters.</p>
<p>The fact that they are increasing the frequency of trains during the F1 race is proof that smrt can do it but refuse to do it.</p>
<p>We are talking improving the service and make travelling in mrt a little more comfortable.  It is right to say that the mrt system is not perfect and this is where they have to imporve upon it.</p>
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		<title>By: I_propose_hike</title>
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		<dc:creator>I_propose_hike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>36) See-u-no-up on September 11th, 2008 10.34 am Guys, don’t forget currently there are approx 4.5 M ppl living in this tiny island, We already felt the squeeze at every corners such as transportation, housing, food centre etc. What will happen if population increase to 6.5 M which the 1st class gov intended. You can imagine the out come if this 1st class gov still dreaming in the ivory tower.

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Aiyoyo, why the worrys? the majority no the worrys, you no need worrys lahs.
Rain or shine, the majority no the worrys.

If 1 or 2 m i l l i o n more new citizens come in, not including the future PRs, foreigners, foreign workers and expats, laboreres and housemaids, I help you ease your worrys.

I propose more hikes to solve problems.
1. road more cars? no problem, hike the very effective traffic buster ERP . still some gap between London peak hour rate and here&#039;s.

2. for anything else, just hike. Maybe can solve even more problem. But I may be wrong huh. Dont take my words for it hor. 

3. Baby no enough ? add more money to entice.

4. MNCs cannot compete well ? no worrys, use supply and demand theory. More supply from far far away, employers very happy.  You more happy ah. You get to keep your next month salary ah. Else if they leave, you eat grass ah.

Sporeans have spoken time and time and time x 49 again so they must be happy. I think only lah. I no no wan.

regards
Ho Pinkie 
the stylo milo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>36) See-u-no-up on September 11th, 2008 10.34 am Guys, don’t forget currently there are approx 4.5 M ppl living in this tiny island, We already felt the squeeze at every corners such as transportation, housing, food centre etc. What will happen if population increase to 6.5 M which the 1st class gov intended. You can imagine the out come if this 1st class gov still dreaming in the ivory tower.</p>
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<p>Aiyoyo, why the worrys? the majority no the worrys, you no need worrys lahs.<br />
Rain or shine, the majority no the worrys.</p>
<p>If 1 or 2 m i l l i o n more new citizens come in, not including the future PRs, foreigners, foreign workers and expats, laboreres and housemaids, I help you ease your worrys.</p>
<p>I propose more hikes to solve problems.<br />
1. road more cars? no problem, hike the very effective traffic buster ERP . still some gap between London peak hour rate and here&#8217;s.</p>
<p>2. for anything else, just hike. Maybe can solve even more problem. But I may be wrong huh. Dont take my words for it hor. </p>
<p>3. Baby no enough ? add more money to entice.</p>
<p>4. MNCs cannot compete well ? no worrys, use supply and demand theory. More supply from far far away, employers very happy.  You more happy ah. You get to keep your next month salary ah. Else if they leave, you eat grass ah.</p>
<p>Sporeans have spoken time and time and time x 49 again so they must be happy. I think only lah. I no no wan.</p>
<p>regards<br />
Ho Pinkie<br />
the stylo milo</p>
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		<title>By: Tan Kin Lian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tan Kin Lian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi korek2korek (#34)

There is no need for you to be rude. If you do not like this article, just ignore it. 

The other readers are happy to read the article and give their comments. As this is Public Transport Week, the editor decided to re-pubish this &quot;old&quot; article, as it is relevant to the main theme of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi korek2korek (#34)</p>
<p>There is no need for you to be rude. If you do not like this article, just ignore it. </p>
<p>The other readers are happy to read the article and give their comments. As this is Public Transport Week, the editor decided to re-pubish this &#8220;old&#8221; article, as it is relevant to the main theme of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-21060</link>
		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when you go to the toilet in a shopping centre and all the cubicles are taken - what do you do? Do you demand that the management build more cubicles? Of course you can demand for that and if management feel that it can be done - it will be done.slowly and surely.

Then again do you wait patiently. In that situation what do you do - c&#039;mon NS trained - improvise. Leave earlier or later, walk to the front or to the back, do what  you must until such time when things improve.

The MRT is not a perfect system in the first place when it was first mooted. it still isn&#039;t. If you put too many trains or too many carriages, etc wear and tear, etc - if the train has a minor breakdown, etc etc... everybody suffers.

A young girl want to do an implant to solidify her asset but the father could not afford it. she pestered. so the dad agreed.
but do one at a time. the subject was never brought up again.
nothing to do with train actually ....

running more trains / more frequently  is just doing that - a temporary fix to a problem. I m sure it is a problem and that it needs fixing but it has to be done rite in due course.

Not that the problem can be fixed by just running more trains more frequently etc...

Patience is sure a virtue.
cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when you go to the toilet in a shopping centre and all the cubicles are taken &#8211; what do you do? Do you demand that the management build more cubicles? Of course you can demand for that and if management feel that it can be done &#8211; it will be done.slowly and surely.</p>
<p>Then again do you wait patiently. In that situation what do you do &#8211; c&#8217;mon NS trained &#8211; improvise. Leave earlier or later, walk to the front or to the back, do what  you must until such time when things improve.</p>
<p>The MRT is not a perfect system in the first place when it was first mooted. it still isn&#8217;t. If you put too many trains or too many carriages, etc wear and tear, etc &#8211; if the train has a minor breakdown, etc etc&#8230; everybody suffers.</p>
<p>A young girl want to do an implant to solidify her asset but the father could not afford it. she pestered. so the dad agreed.<br />
but do one at a time. the subject was never brought up again.<br />
nothing to do with train actually &#8230;.</p>
<p>running more trains / more frequently  is just doing that &#8211; a temporary fix to a problem. I m sure it is a problem and that it needs fixing but it has to be done rite in due course.</p>
<p>Not that the problem can be fixed by just running more trains more frequently etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Patience is sure a virtue.<br />
cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Amused</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-21059</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waiting for 5 minutes is not a problem. As long as I can actually GET INTO the train after waiting for 5 minutes. You can increase the frequency of the train to 1 per minute and it would do jack squat if I still can&#039;t get in because all the trains are full.

No one else seems to be seeing (or bothering to state) this problem:

SMRT was started when Singapore&#039;s population was only about 3+ million.
They decided to build train stations that can only accomodate 6 carriages.

Now that the population is 4.5+ million, the trains would have to carry an equivalent load of 8 carriages.

When the population gets to 6+ million?
Heh... Let&#039;s see if they are long-sighted enough by designing the circle line stations with the capacity to handle at least 10 carriages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waiting for 5 minutes is not a problem. As long as I can actually GET INTO the train after waiting for 5 minutes. You can increase the frequency of the train to 1 per minute and it would do jack squat if I still can&#8217;t get in because all the trains are full.</p>
<p>No one else seems to be seeing (or bothering to state) this problem:</p>
<p>SMRT was started when Singapore&#8217;s population was only about 3+ million.<br />
They decided to build train stations that can only accomodate 6 carriages.</p>
<p>Now that the population is 4.5+ million, the trains would have to carry an equivalent load of 8 carriages.</p>
<p>When the population gets to 6+ million?<br />
Heh&#8230; Let&#8217;s see if they are long-sighted enough by designing the circle line stations with the capacity to handle at least 10 carriages.</p>
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		<title>By: See-u-no-up</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-21027</link>
		<dc:creator>See-u-no-up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, don&#039;t forget currently there are approx 4.5 M ppl living in this tiny island,  We already felt the squeeze at every corners such as transportation, housing, food centre etc. What will happen if population increase to 6.5 M which the 1st class gov intended. You can imagine the out come if this 1st class gov still dreaming in the ivory tower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, don&#8217;t forget currently there are approx 4.5 M ppl living in this tiny island,  We already felt the squeeze at every corners such as transportation, housing, food centre etc. What will happen if population increase to 6.5 M which the 1st class gov intended. You can imagine the out come if this 1st class gov still dreaming in the ivory tower.</p>
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		<title>By: Ho Pinkie</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-21005</link>
		<dc:creator>Ho Pinkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>33) Citizen on September 10th, 2008 9.41 pm 
.............For the MRT to arrive every 5 minutes, it is a good thing, but take into consideration the amount of people in the MRT as well. .....................


Its really a matter of SWISS STANDARD can do it , you can do it or not?

Do you  know how big is Switzerland?
Do you know how frequent their public transport system arrives on time on target?
Do you know how difficult it is ? And do you know they Boleh! ?

Enjoy more good years!
Swiss standard ler.
Everyone believes this.
me too. U no the believing of the me meh? 
yibah untooneh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>33) Citizen on September 10th, 2008 9.41 pm<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.For the MRT to arrive every 5 minutes, it is a good thing, but take into consideration the amount of people in the MRT as well. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Its really a matter of SWISS STANDARD can do it , you can do it or not?</p>
<p>Do you  know how big is Switzerland?<br />
Do you know how frequent their public transport system arrives on time on target?<br />
Do you know how difficult it is ? And do you know they Boleh! ?</p>
<p>Enjoy more good years!<br />
Swiss standard ler.<br />
Everyone believes this.<br />
me too. U no the believing of the me meh?<br />
yibah untooneh!</p>
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		<title>By: korek2korek</title>
		<link>http://theonlinecitizen.com/2008/09/ptw-from-third-world-to-first/comment-page-1/#comment-20990</link>
		<dc:creator>korek2korek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Tan,
Can you write somthing new as a columnist? This article of yours have been reposted so many times over -- a passe. A shoter version even appeared on ST long time ago. Instead of repeating, rehashing and recycling, do you really have anything new or insightly for discussion?  Dont be like Mediacorp, re-telecasting repeats to fill time slots. If online citzen wants to be relavent, pls post new stuff. What a passe piece! 

Pardon for my harsh words. I really would like to read new insightful stuff and i believe this website can play a meaningful part to benefit all.

Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Tan,<br />
Can you write somthing new as a columnist? This article of yours have been reposted so many times over &#8212; a passe. A shoter version even appeared on ST long time ago. Instead of repeating, rehashing and recycling, do you really have anything new or insightly for discussion?  Dont be like Mediacorp, re-telecasting repeats to fill time slots. If online citzen wants to be relavent, pls post new stuff. What a passe piece! </p>
<p>Pardon for my harsh words. I really would like to read new insightful stuff and i believe this website can play a meaningful part to benefit all.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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