1) Serangoon Garden Police Post close shop around 11pm++ (or maybe earlier). So, the nearest police centre will be at Serangoon Central. 20mins will be the fastest that I can estimate for them to reach in responding to distress calls (since they took 15mins to respond to problems occurring in my neighbourhood which is just a street away from it and time walking to the police centre took about 3-5mins.)

Serangoon Gardens have their own citizen watch group, if I’m not wrong. This might help, but it’s not related to the discussion here anyway.

2) The pictures in stomp as posted by Burghley Dr resident is a proof of how narrow is the road. Even though I am not living there, looking at the road and visualizing the numbers of buses going to travel through that narrow road… I guess, I leave it to your own imagination.

So much for that.

I do predict though that SGardens will fall back into the safety net of Marine Parade GRC the next election.

Guess the ‘feedback’ that the government has been encouraging us to make, is just treated as nonsense.

Any doubts that SGardens will fall back into Marine Parade GRC in 2011?

:(

BTW, I also support Serangoon residents. Anyone who support housing them there got to be crazy and stupid! Or just plain idiot!

PS: I love to eat at the chomp chomp there.

But again, how much will FW dom nearby the estate affect the property value? As for safety, how unsafe will it affect the estate with the FW living in nearby dom? So which is the main objection from the “gooners” then? Mah has to listen objectively and decide why the “Kayuneans” and accept whereas the “gooner” want to object so much.”

You may not be familiar with the proposed area. It is very different from Jalan Kayu and we cannot compare these 2 estates. Once you are familiar with the area, you will understand why SG residents are less welcoming. The proposed dorm is in the midst of the Serangoon Gardens estate and access is through the estate’s very narrow Burghley Drive unless LTA builds a road linking the proposed dorm to CTE. This is not feasible as the daily traffic jam on CTE is already horrendous. There is also no such thing as sealing off a section so that workers do not take enter residential areas like what they are doing in Jalan Kayu. Perhaps we should not comment unless we know the area well, ya?

The former(old) Changi Hospital at Changi Village will make an excellent Foreign Worker Dormitory. It has many unoccupied/unused solid buildings built by the Former British Troops that are wastefully under utilized, the Location is quite large and far away from residential occupations. Another location is at Chua Chu Kang where there are some large partially used flatted factory buildings beside an old Chinese Cemetery. This is also far away from residential occupation.

It is very disappointing that our rulers hardly factor in the feelings of Singaporeans in their relentless and obsessive pursuits of economic(read money) developments. Are our rulers serious and sensitive in planning our future?

patriot

Everyone seems to be attacking them based on that one argument.

Give them a break.

Hey DC i couldnt agree with you more…..why are all those “noble” and “human” ppl attacking SG residents on the issue of property value…..

those pple who are attacking SG residents should actually try to suggest to the government to build the dorm somewhere near their places…they would definately support the government decision i believe…..

the main issues here is security and serenity of the neighbourhood….just for the sake of those who do not live there…..there are actually a couple of houses in SG being used to house foreign workers…..though the number may be small but the way they behave sure is different from others not all are rowdy but they still behave in the way which bothers the residents in SG…..

dun start acting as if you are noble and “human” just because the issue would not affect you…..think put yourself into SG residents’ shoes and you would realise the reason why SG residents are so worked up……

But again, how much will FW dom nearby the estate affect the property value? As for safety, how unsafe will it affect the estate with the FW living in nearby dom? So which is the main objection from the “gooners” then? Mah has to listen objectively and decide why the “Kayuneans” and accept whereas the “gooner” want to object so much.

What may be happening here – a slow retreat of the “not so official position” ?something like a leak – spies around ? Unlike the previous Temasek secretary’s leak to the newsworld.
Now – new news said that Serangoon Gardens is not definite even at feasibility study level. Wonder what the reported contractor involved would say now ?
May be good news for Serangoon Gardens – thanks to the leak which may prove to be pre-emptive, or perhaps middle class speaking up?

No leaks obviously at Jalan Kayu, Taman Jurong, etc

Everyone seems to be attacking them based on that one argument.

Give them a break.

That said, I think our own Singaporeans should learn to be a little more gracious. These are the people who came, with all their worries and uncertainties, looking for jobs, for cash. They built our houses, built our shopping malls… And now we’re shunning them? A little too much, don’t you think? The fear of dropping property rates shouldn’t happen if there was no discrimination.

That’s all. Just my two cents worth.

BTW, 3-4 cars is too optimistic as at anyone time, someone’s else car is already parked outside their own home. So, it is effective 1 car mostly. Those trucks and bus are BIG.

How leh? MND can build double deck road in SG? Direct link to CTE?

Really, how did they even suggest this is really showing everyone who the intelligence of MND – well, at least the group who came up with this idea.

however, lets all be practical and logical. for those who are for the dorm please go take a look at the school and location. i’ll explain why its so impractical here but anyone who thinks logically will understand e situation when they see the location.

firstly, the only route to that location is through a 1 way road where its width is capable of fitting only at max 3 to 4 cars. foreign workers have to normally report to their sites around 6 am to 7. with that road being a main road used by most of the serangoon garden citizens, traffic congestions will be the main issue. I’ve considered the typical solution to that is widening of roads but in order to do that houses have to be removed or altered which is terribly ridiculous. the question 1 must ask is , is the usage of a so called wasted space worth it at the expense of a whole community’s daily lifestyle? i mean to get to work or school on time, residents would have to leave at say 4.30 -5 ? to skip the jam? you decide.

saturdays and sundays as one would know are off days for foreign workers. the average foreign workers would use public transport to get to area’s of their interest. however in e narrow roads of serangoon gardens there is only 1 feeder bus(317) which goes to that area and then straight to the serangoon mrt. would this 1 bus service be feasible? some might argue that the frequency of the bus can be increased but think logically, the max capacity of a typical sbs bus =50. say rarely even half of the foreign workers leave the compound. 700/50 = 14. that would be 14 buses full of foreign workers not even counting in residents. spreaded over a 1 hr period buses have to come at a 4.2 minute interval? unreal.
and if 1 still refuses to be practical, look at the aboved mentioned reason. with such a small road. massive jams would occur. once again one would understand that basic human rights should be applied.but i seriously do not agree that the lifestyle and standard of living of CITIZENS should be undermined in order for foreigners to have a dorm.

well i can go on and on about the problems that can arise but im pretty certain these 2 can bring light to those who cannot see the awaking problems.
thank you.