Thursday, October 30, 2008 13:43
“Losses not substantial”? Then tell us…
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Perhaps it is timely for these TCs [town councils] who have invested and lost in the Lehman products to account for the investment in full – how much were purchased, what is the extent of their exposure, and what they potentially have lost.
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Yamasam
Ryan
the opposition is too quiet these few months… there are serious issues they can highlight but it seems they are way too quiet. wat is wrong..??
Obviously, Town Council will do nothing. The reason is that no pain , no personal life savings are involved at the first place. Borrow a phrase from PM Lee, “We, Town Councils cannot guarantee you 100% the investment is safe.” We lost it, that’s life. Let’s move on… There is a technical recession to tackle…
Not 100% safe
When TC suffered losses in the LB investment, where to get more money…very soon the conservancy charges will go up.
Sgcynic
Transparency and accountability
Daniel
““Losses not substantial”? Then tell us…”
Can you handle the brutal truth ?
Daniel
Las Vegas Sands Soars 80% After Talks With Singapore Government
“http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=agVz68rha4iA&refer=home”
Another bail out by our government ? It obviously a “bail out” though the words are not there. Bail out is a taboo words now given that our government lost billions trying to bail out old and sick banks.
grognard
Are town councils allowed to invest in stocks and shares? If so, they will lose money, Lehman Brothers or not. Why single out this investment for special review?
sarek_home
It may not be substantial to them not to the ordinary citizens.
GoodSingaporean
cummo show your book!! Dun just used mouth said only minor lost!! this is our $$. TC dun show mercy when you dun pay them, just 2mths outstanding they will sue u till your pant wet….then wat the rite do they hv to lose our $$!! Show us your BOOK!!!! Remember our GCT asked the Hougang Opposition to show book, now it time for the public to see their book…dun hide!!
Internet mouth
This kinda of new is like “right in your face” it won’t go away and with the internet exposing all kinds of comestic writeups, it will only serve to enlighten and awaken people from the years of slumber.
TOC keep up the good work for having this platform.
By the way, does anyone know who made the wise decision to invest our money ? Mat Selamat ?
DP
“Trust them, you money is in safe hands”, Just like Selemat was, judt like your money with DBS was. For a country prided for its transparency, there hell of a lot we people do not know. Because we are deemed to dumb to understand and that’s proven every five years.
Fever Guy
To the reckless Town Council management who loses a “minor” portion of the sinking funds to toxic investments, please do the RIGHT THING as mentioned by PM Lee. Be responsible and transparent about the issue. Show the books and if the loss is small there is nothing to be shameful! By not disclosing the losses, you guys are shameless and gutless!!!
FG
alky
Since when has investing for better returns become a core function of a Town Council? This should be the objective of a pension fund and not an estate management body. All this points down to greed for more money. Something which has been constantly ingrained into our minds by our society.
And I wonder which party is the cause of it all….
blade
i was shocked when i heard the news. has our S&C unable to cover the functioning of the town councils that they have to resort to investment for returns to cover its expenses?
but since TC has the money for investment, does that mean that there was excess fund? If so, why not reduce the S&C, to return the money back in the residents’ and let them decide what to do with their own money?
tiredsingaporean
When make money they keep quiet and reward themselves, when lose money they make us all their scapegoats, wonder when all these illegal practises will stop. Care to let the people know how many of the poorer singaporeans your TC had already taken up to court so far for not being able to pay up their SCC charges. And stop giving the same excuses that the TCs would not be able to function without collecting all the SCC charges due when you have so much $$$millions in sinking funds just to throw them away into investing in private properties and other equities. Who initiated or authorized all these illegal practises? care to share with the public? I am sure that if such practises are being discovered in any of the private sectors, such incidents would already been reported straight to the CAD and a jail sentence would lightly be the case in singapore.
one day
now i understand why the government want people to get married and have children and a family.
this is because as a single person there is much less concern and he can do very extreme things like telling and admitting all the truth.
for example the head of the bank or head of town council can be a real hero by letting out all the truth if he is single.
but if he has a family he will not do it as there are concern about his family as well.
one day
i think i will not tell the truth also if i am the head and has a family.
anonymous
Why single out only Lehman losses? One Town Council has made huge losses on speculation of Creative Technology shares which have plunged 90%. Should the ordinary residents or the TC bear these huge losses along with many other losses?
one day
which tc is it?
ask them to own up and you be the witness.
anonymous
The Town Council that “invested” in Creative Technology owns so many shares that it is listed among the very top twenty shareholders of the company. See p15 of the Supplementary to Creative’s Annual Report 2007 which is freely available on the SGX website: http://www.sgx.com
or you can zoom straight in to the above cited document at url:
http://info.sgx.com/listprosp.nsf/4f925e50089e98bf48256dad001425f5/b2e2977b1807b43f48257370003518eb/$FILE/Creative.pdf
one day
wah town councils return all our money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, I would like all TCs, PAP, SDA & WP, to publish their accounts and provide a breakdown of all their investments.
In the event where losses are suffered, would like to know how are they going to makeup for the losses when the sinking funds are called upon to carry out cyclical repair works. If those losses are not required, then why are they collecting more S&Cs than required from HDB residents.